Chat:World/2022-02-04
ASM_MOV_INT: what was everyone's first computer? and/or first computer they programmed on? at home/school or work?
__Peaker__: hiiii
ASM_MOV_INT: :bird: hi
tekki: hi vespyer
therealbeef: Philips P2000 for me, in late 80s. you had to insert a cartridge which contained a microsoft basic interpreter into a slot on top. 32k ram, no storage, had to load all programs of those mini casette tapes
ASM_MOV_INT: looks like a Texas Instruments, and yeah very similar, I had cartridges too....
ASM_MOV_INT: nice
therealbeef: it used a graphics system similar to what teletext used
FoXbOw: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/22097554ebd793575a2693182936b2a1a739231
wontonimo: [automated] hey FoXbOw, dont paste those links here. Use the channel #clash
cesqueax: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/22098023ba29eeb555a5afe68376ad22aed61c2
wontonimo: [automated] hey cesqueax, dont paste those links here. Use the channel #clash
michalwa: yo is there a way to persist stderr beyond the last line on failure
Ryuuk: Hi All
Ryuuk: is it possible to add photo in problem statment of a contribution please ?
DaNinja: Not possible for CoC and Classic puzzles I think
Stilgart: I think it is possible for puzzle if you choose to make a "solo game"
Stilgart: but this requires to master the SDK from CG and to code in Java
darkhorse64: At least for multiplayer games, adding a picture in the statement does not require Java programming
ASM_MOV_INT: you could add an ASCII ART photo
ASM_MOV_INT: anyone here know python?
5DN1L: Is that information collection? :smirk:
ASM_MOV_INT: ValueError: substring not found
ASM_MOV_INT: I'm working on a problem, and half way through it gives me this, from <string>.index() command
5DN1L: the line which causes the error?
ASM_MOV_INT: yes
ASM_MOV_INT: but the substring that it's finding should be at index 0 when it gets to this line
5DN1L: what do you want to do actually?
5DN1L: if you use find instead of index
5DN1L: and the substring is not found
5DN1L: it will give you -1 instead of error
ASM_MOV_INT: cool, but the thing is, the substring should be found
5DN1L: what are the string and substring then
ASM_MOV_INT: i'm doing prefix code challenge, and with each iteration as it finds the code, i set the string equal to the substring without the prefix code
ASM_MOV_INT: i'm working through the first test
ASM_MOV_INT:
ASM_MOV_INT: abraca 01010010001
5DN1L: ah i see
ASM_MOV_INT: the next substring to find is 010, which is at index 0
5DN1L: let me refresh my memory of that puzzle
5DN1L: there are cases where DECODE FAIL
ASM_MOV_INT: i haven't coded that possibility yet, i'm just working my way through the first test
5DN1L: ah ok
ASM_MOV_INT: weird 2nd test stops exactly half way through as well... ok, i'm doing something wrong or weird with string stuff i bet
ASM_MOV_INT: rofl
5DN1L: have you tried to use any debug print to keep track of your variables?
ASM_MOV_INT: yes the code is littered with them commented out
ASM_MOV_INT: :joy:
5DN1L: well, look at them again :shrug:
ASM_MOV_INT: everything works as planned, until it hits approx mid of string
5DN1L: but hey
5DN1L: are you just looking at ANY substring?
ASM_MOV_INT: hmm?
5DN1L: e.g. 001 can appear in any position
5DN1L: but you have to parse from the start position
5DN1L: if 001 appears in the middle, it doesn't count
ASM_MOV_INT: doesn't index() return first position in string of occurence, if it's not 0, then i have the wrong substring, it tries all codes to see if any are at position 0
5DN1L: ah i see your logic now
5DN1L: but as i said
5DN1L: you have to use "find" instead
5DN1L: because index will cause your code to stop immediately if a substring is not found
5DN1L: find and index are almost the same except for the handling of substrings not found
ASM_MOV_INT: oh wait
ASM_MOV_INT: all the other codes
ASM_MOV_INT: have more than one instance
ASM_MOV_INT: until the point
ASM_MOV_INT: ok, ty
5DN1L: erm... ok (have i helped? lol)
ASM_MOV_INT: it runs until it gets to the point where the cycle of checking for codes hits this error.
ASM_MOV_INT: thank you so much
5DN1L: :)
ASM_MOV_INT: hmmm, now to fix this
ASM_MOV_INT: dude, just replaced index() with find() and it worked.... first test anyways
ASM_MOV_INT: ooh and 2nd test
5DN1L: nice
5DN1L: python also has startswith function
ASM_MOV_INT: for strings? really?
5DN1L: really
ASM_MOV_INT: ah!
ASM_MOV_INT: I really have been reluctant to try Python, but it may be worth more of my time than I've previously thought I should allocate to it!
ASM_MOV_INT: :sunglasses:
5DN1L: each language has its pros and cons i suppose :wink:
ASM_MOV_INT: i was thinking earlier... I wonder what would happen if we merge all the possible programming languages into as large and inclusive a programming language as possible
ASM_MOV_INT: cross platform would be a serious issue
Sxriptl3ss: I am completly new and Idk i cant gte the bot moving
5DN1L: if you don't know any languages, it'll be difficult for you
5DN1L: programming ones i mean
Sxriptl3ss: I know but i just wanted to leran smth i guess i am board af
5DN1L: well, this site is not for someone who doesn't know any basics yet
Sxriptl3ss: It sems like i just google like new progamming learn by game or smth this was the first side showed up
ASM_MOV_INT: what's smth?
jacek: you need to have at least some basics
bonsaifree: if you ared bored: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hly31xKli0&t=19s
jacek: or try easy puzzles like the descent, temperatures
5DN1L: wow bonsaifree
jacek: i/o sutff on this site can be confusing even for experienced folks
ASM_MOV_INT: i just started with Python tonight! like literally hours ago didn't have a clue
5DN1L: clues are here :wink: as long as you aren't a complete newbie
ASM_MOV_INT: i'm also on w3schools, they have some great starter tutorials
ASM_MOV_INT: whoa I got 75% on that challenge... I need to finish churning through the tests to get 100%.... not bad!
5DN1L: keep going!
jacek: what challenge
5DN1L: Prefix code
5DN1L: the puzzle
ASM_MOV_INT: the real challenge for me, in that, is python
jacek: in next challenge? https://deepmind.com/blog/article/Competitive-programming-with-AlphaCode
ASM_MOV_INT: i'll be back in approx 14 hours or so, that's when I'll be at work tomorrow
ASM_MOV_INT: thanks again for the help @5DN1L
5DN1L: :)
**ASM_MOV_INT applauds
ASM_MOV_INT: made my night
ASM_MOV_INT: :grinning:
susmogus22: im in school
susmogus22: :nerd:
bortol: do you use move/unmove in uttt?
Arishem_the_Judge: hello
Fasader: hi
Alshock: @bortol well, MCTS is usually prefered in UTTT, but if you make a minimax then it may be a good idea to unmove yes
bortol: I've tried both approaches (mcts and minimax), with both I can reach top50 in gold, but it's so hard to get to legend :/ Maybe java is the problem...
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/events
5DN1L: :thinking:
Miki09: Registered :-)
Miki09: I was the first ever registered person to featured events on codingame oO
5DN1L: 🎉
[CG]Thibaud: you're fast :D
SilentAuntie_d73d: Hello, I have a project in vba to do on the puzzle loss in the stock market... I succeeded in java but I'm struggling in vba, can someone help me please pleaaaase
HoriMiyamura: what is this feautred Puzzle
SilentAuntie_d73d: stock market losses
HoriMiyamura: do we have medal/achievement?
SilentAuntie_d73d: i am at level 3, i am new
5DN1L: what kind of help do you need? please be specific
SilentAuntie_d73d: we managed to code in java but i would like to tranform the code into VBA. I can send you my code in java
5DN1L: if you don't know any VBA, you have to learn it first
5DN1L: we can't just convert it for you
HoriMiyamura: BRAIN FORK, isn't it should be brain fu*k, it has been several months since last time I open this page.
5DN1L: CG think of those names...
5DN1L: their invention
SilentAuntie_d73d: I have a code in vba but it does not work I do not understand my error it tells me that I am missing a parenthesis
5DN1L: find and add it
Elena.: ^
derjack: bortol how many playouts in uttt?
HoriMiyamura: 20k or more
5DN1L: HoriMiyamura = bortol ?
derjack: alt accounts? oO
newbie960: print(`they do${readline()%4!=2?:`n't`}`)
newbie960: how can this console "they do" if there is a^2-b^2 = n<n
struct: hi
Astrobytes: hello
DaNinja: morning
TurkLee: Input
Expected output
13:05
785
DaNinja: 13*60+5
5DN1L: are you in a clash, TurkLee?
OhTurry: o/
gemaaaaaa: :smile:
Partizanin: how to set up profile photo ?
Takashi97: goto profile and youll see
bortol: derjack sry didn't see message, I got about 4/5k playouts on 2nd move (which is so low...), but I use evalulation function.
struct: which game bortol?
5DN1L: UTTT
struct: ah java
bortol: ye I also use only 60ms per turn because I dont know how to manage moery well, prolly I should rewrite solution to rust
struct: both c++ and rust are good choices
struct: rust has release mode
Big.Tom: #jeremyroadtosummerbody
sparkym: SUIIIIII
Astrobytes: German schoolkids eh
newbie960: SUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
struct: stop
struct: last warning
sparkym: minang 😎 deng😳laka😱kinang🥵suang🤠kinang😯suang😅laka😠kingnang🥰neng😎🙏
JL727: bruh
JL727: BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦BING CHILLING 🥶🍦
yuutz: SUIIIIIIISUIIIIIIISUIIIIIIISUIIIIIII
Wontonimo: no spamming
struct: hi Wontonimo I think they are all banned
Wontonimo: some of you have been given a 10 min time out
Wontonimo: ah
Wontonimo: thanks :grin:
Wontonimo: featured puzzle !?! that's new. neat idea to promote the puzzle of the week with more gusto
therealbeef: they also hinted that you might get CP for it..
5DN1L: did they?
struct: o.o
Astrobytes: So this could be a multi, puzzle or optim from week to week?
darkhorse64: through new leagues in the selected multi
struct: lets wait and see I guess
struct: I already got what I wanted
darkhorse64: although I doubt they will open a Legend league for 200 players
therealbeef: ah, i misread, only CPs for bot programming style eatured events
darkhorse64: optims five also CPs
darkhorse64: give
therealbeef: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/75618262-6951-4486-885b-c10be4c13e96
therealbeef: sounds exciting anyway
Astrobytes: we'll see how it pans out participation-wise I guess, as long as there are enough people it will be
therealbeef: yes, a cool part of contests was always that everyone is talking about and working on the same problem
Astrobytes: Indeed. Speaking of which, now we have these events plus a sprinc contest :tada:
Astrobytes: Or indeed a spring contest.
darkhorse64: From #fr, bot events are not yet ready
Astrobytes: no rush, plenty other things going on until then
struct: soon enough nulte will comeback
darkhorse64: no worries, just fyi.
Astrobytes: lol struct
Astrobytes: darkhorse64: all good, ty for the heads up ;)
eulerscheZahl: oh, an "event" somehow i expected this to be the official contest announcement
eulerscheZahl: i have to register for a puzzle now?
Astrobytes: Apparently so. I'll wait for the multis to be ready
eulerscheZahl: "Register to receive an email" my bad, didn't read
Astrobytes: oh, neither did I
eulerscheZahl: i think i solved the quora demo task, submit time
Astrobytes: nice
eulerscheZahl: only C, C++, Java, Python and I don't even know which Java version
Astrobytes: Surprised there's no Rust in that list tbh
eulerscheZahl: oh, only 32/100 points some wrong answers (unexpected) and timeouts (not a total surprise)
eulerscheZahl: but i understood their platform and that's what the test session is about
Astrobytes: btw I only pinged you on discord to pin a link to the contest channel
Astrobytes: Platform OK then?
eulerscheZahl: i just closed discord
Astrobytes: I thought that's why you closed it :D
eulerscheZahl: no, to get some screen space for quora
eulerscheZahl: an update broke the re-adding of tabs to the main window
eulerscheZahl: oh wait, it's working again. but i swear it was broken last week
Josdel: hey guys
Josdel: all fine?
derjack: hmm
darkhorse64: Astrobytes: The TSP optim is ready
wlesavo: euler whats a quora? I found only some strange social network? is that it?
BlaiseEbuth: It is.
BlaiseEbuth: But there's a contest
wlesavo: oh i see, shouldve just google quora contest
Astrobytes: darkhorse64: thanks :)
Anonymous_coder687: is there a way i can use the dart code cuz i use it and i just die i tried to change the code but nothings working
5DN1L: What do you mean by dart code?
Anonymous_coder687: the shoot code
5DN1L: Which puzzle are you working on?
Anonymous_coder687: the mad pod
5DN1L: Which league are you in? Wood 3?
5DN1L: Which programming language do you use? Dart?
Anonymous_coder687: bash and dart yes
5DN1L: You can choose either from the menu
5DN1L: above the coding area
Anonymous_coder687: but the dart does nothing and kills me
Squar3: can someone explain the leagues thing and how to play? I only play coc :3
5DN1L: You have to modify the code first, Anonymous_coder687
5DN1L: Squar3 coc has no leagues
Squar3: ikr but m asking about the league thing how to play it..
5DN1L: you mean the leagues in bot programming?
Squar3: yeah
Squar3: how to play
5DN1L: You have to choose a bot game, write the code for your bot, enter it in the arena, if you win the boss of that league, you're promoted to the next league
Anonymous_coder687: i have no coding experience whatsoever
5DN1L: Then you have to learn it elsewhere first
Squar3: sry but where I find bot programming I only know coc and puzzles
Anonymous_coder687: i just heard this was a great source from one of my buddies
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer
5DN1L: Squar3
5DN1L: under BOT PROGRAMMING
5DN1L: Anonymous_coder687 This website is more for practising than for learning from zero
Squar3: okay m wood 2 I need to solve tasks to promote or what?
5DN1L: You have to enter your bot in the arena, and win enough games to beat the boss of that league
5DN1L: then you're promoted
5DN1L: You usually have to rewrite your code as you go up the leagues
5DN1L: to improve your bot
Anonymous_coder687: 5DN1L do you work here because you have a badge thingy.
5DN1L: I don't work here
5DN1L: I'm a volunteer moderator
BlaiseEbuth: *slave
jacek: he get paid in insults
5DN1L: yeah :(
Anonymous_coder687: oh that makes sense
therealbeef: and gray hairs
KDW: let no good deed go unpunished !!
Squar3: why I can't understand this games :(( isn't about solving problems like puzzles?
5DN1L: it's about competing against other bots
5DN1L: read the statement
5DN1L: to understand how you win or lose
therealbeef: like playing chess
5DN1L: yup
Anonymous_coder687: what was that one game where you shoot a laser at bots?
Anonymous_coder687: it starts with a c
Anonymous_coder687: i cant remeber it
jacek: onboarding?
jacek: conboarding
Scarfield: conair
Anonymous_coder687: is it just me or does it look like a c
Anonymous_coder687: idk i might be dumb idk
5DN1L: :older_man:
5DN1L: old or cold
5DN1L: erm... nothing :P
Anonymous_coder687: awe the onboarding game only has 1 lvl.
5DN1L: that's just intro
5DN1L: it's not a bot programming game
5DN1L: no leagues there
5DN1L: anyway as I said, either you learn the basics elsewhere, or you can try to google the relevant info to help you solve the puzzles here
Anonymous_coder687: ill just avoid the clans
NateLu: around what level are the assesments companies will send through codingame?
NateLu: Like easy, medium, hard
BlaiseEbuth: :popcorn:
5DN1L: someone mentioned previously that private assessments are harder than publicly available ones
5DN1L: but exactly what level? i dunno
Anonymous_coder687: p.o.t is so wierd
5DN1L: you mean puzzle of the week?
Anonymous_coder687: power of thor
5DN1L: oh... ok
jacek: huh
Anonymous_coder687: can get banned from here
Anonymous_coder687: im just curious
5DN1L: yes
jacek: you need more trolling though
Anonymous_coder687: like rickroll type trolling or like other kinds
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
Stilgart: Cheating is discouraged.
Stilgart: (I don't really know if I should laugh or be angry with this one)
Anonymous_coder687: lol i thought the same
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Oh yeah, what ever happened to the leaderboard cleanup?
Stilgart: you should look at the optim and golfs sections
Stilgart: ... and several multis
Anonymous_coder687: i type with a battery
Anonymous_coder687: im kiddinf
eulerscheZahl: "Oh yeah, what ever happened to the leaderboard cleanup?" was just a firm wish. but i've been told those removed from GitC can't even resubmit
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Probably because they didn't remove xp. Resubmit would have given them double
Squar3: how to report cheaters in COC ?
5DN1L: how do you know they've cheated?
Squar3: friends and shared the same code nd submitted same sec
Squar3: nd somehow both top 1 even that one is bad at scoreboard
5DN1L: did they share in the coc chatroom?
Squar3: nah
Squar3: I mean m not sure I can see same characters length and same submit sec but they didn't share it after the round
Squar3: I just want to report .
5DN1L: you need evidence as proof
Squar3: admins can't check that?
Squar3: haha is it okay if 2 friends use the same exact code? is it luck???
5DN1L: well you can try to PM [CG]Thibaud and ask him
Squar3: they are freinds on the website btw
5DN1L: followers ≠ friends
Squar3: nah bro I thought there is a button for report or something
5DN1L: oh that
5DN1L: it's on the profile pages
Squar3: okay ty
yaziel: hi
ninjadip: hi
ninjadip: don't report everything you see
ninjadip: heller
Wontonimo: hey 5DN1L , i've made some impovements to mod bot and i think it is ready to deploy
5DN1L: oh?
Wontonimo: it now looks for people repeating themselves, and some bad words
Wontonimo: and when a new user logs in it sends them a message to check the code of conduct
5DN1L: ah sounds good
Wontonimo: okay ... i'll deploy
ninjadip: interesting
ninjadip: here come the thought police
Wontonimo: if you'd like to try it outside of world chat use /join testworld
ninjadip: i love the term 'testworld'
Wontonimo: one of the "bad words" is badword
antiwonto: [automated] Wontonimo be respectful and watch your language https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
Wontonimo: hi antiwonto
antiwonto: [automated] hey Wontonimo. I'm a bot :robot:
ninjadip: will antiwonto not helps us because Wontonimo helps us lowly coders
Wontonimo: never thought of the 'anti' as meaning that
Wontonimo: lol
ninjadip: i love the bot in the movie gravity
Wontonimo: i don't remember there being a bot in gravity
Scarfield: badword
antiwonto: [automated] Welcome Scarfield, have't seen you before :wave: A friendly reminder to be respectful https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
Scarfield: xD
Wontonimo: it doesn't award golden tacos yet
jacek: tacocat drives racecar
antiwonto: [automated] Welcome jacek, have't seen you before :wave: A friendly reminder to be respectful https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/code-of-conduct
jacek: thats quite spammy
Scarfield: it repeats itself, when will it recursively remind itself to be respectful
Wontonimo: hmm
Wontonimo: yeah, that is kinda spammy
Wontonimo: it'll never say welcome again to you.
Wontonimo: i can turn off the welcome thing, or we can let it run for 1 day and see if it gets new users to be calmer
Scarfield: if it says that every time someone joins chat, its gonna be annoying i think, no need to remind everyone of code of conduct, only the ones that dont follow them i would say
Wontonimo: oh, i'll turn off the new user message for now. after it tracks some users and has a bit of a DB, I'll turn that back on maybe later in the week
Scarfield: :thumbsup:
Wontonimo: fair enough Scarfield
Scarfield: when contest starts its gonna be a lot of welcomes xD
**struct bans antiwonto
Wontonimo: okay, welcome message has been deactivated
5DN1L: one welcome message to all the new users say every minute/5 minutes is better
Wontonimo: we can revisit for sure. for now it is just commented out. i want this to make this place better, not more spammy
Scarfield: sure, less chance for it being spambot
Wontonimo: so, features include : naughty language, clash links, and user repeating themselves.
nesnes112: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f5941e62-833e-4ce9-a8f8-52484332fde3
Scarfield: what is repeating oneself? im gonna be kicked for ecksdee'ing all the time? :o
nesnes112: for (let i=0;i<x; i++)
{ console.log ('*'.repeat (x)); }
Wontonimo: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array/fill
Wontonimo: look at this link
Wontonimo: and then you can just join
struct: "*".repeat should work
Wontonimo: ^^ that is a lot better
Scarfield: test
Scarfield: test
struct: maybe you want repeat(i)
struct: instead of x
antiwonto: [automated] Scarfield please don't repeat yourself
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: seems like CG could make something like this if they wanted it
nesnes112: struct it works but it displays only 2 stars on line 1 for x=2
struct: what should it display?
Scarfield: ah didnt get kicked, i like your idea of this bot wonto :)
Wontonimo: thanks :grin:
Scarfield: https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/A.W.E.S.O.M.-O_4000
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: what should it display?
Scarfield: lol involuntary bot testing xD
nesnes112: struct it should displays for x=2
nesnes112: and 2 stars in line 2
struct: its doing that
struct: that code is doing the exact same that the python one is doign
struct: doing*
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: you ought to try it out in #fr :P
Scarfield: automaton speaks french :scream:
nesnes112: struct I tested it on scrimba it only displayed 2 stars on a single line for x=2
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I bet they would kick non-fr bots
struct: https://tech.io/snippet/vq7Mbw5
nesnes112: Could it be a publisher problem?
nesnes112: I ran my code on scrimba
struct: maybe scimba stop on first output
struct: or something
nesnes112: ok thank you struct for ur help
nesnes112: how to make the spaces are displayed before the stars (ie for example n=5, I want there to be the display of 4 spaces followed by a star for line 1) here is my code
nesnes112: for (let i=1;i<=x; i++)
{ console.log (' '.repeat (x-i)+'*'.repeat (i)); }
struct: isnt that what that code is doing?
struct: or do you want to display 2 spaces 1 star and 2 spaces for first line?
nesnes112: for n=5 example I want in the 1st line 4 spaces followed by a star then in the 2nd line 3 spaces followed by 2 stars etc...
struct: that code you pasted is doing exactly that
struct: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f0de20c3-c75b-402f-9587-d11cae84c862
struct: This is what you are describing
struct: and its what your code is doing
- my program displays 1 star followed by 4 spaces
struct: well it works fine for me so I cant help
nesnes112: yes struct this is what i want
ycsvenom: hello
ycsvenom: guys can anyone explain how he has encoded his code here https://i.imgur.com/0r5IMh1.png
ycsvenom: i know it's a utf16 but i don't know how to make it in that behavior(Chinese characters)
ycsvenom: and i have decoded it successfully but i want to generate my own
Lugassi: if I remember correctly there is an online site for that
ycsvenom: what it's name?
ycsvenom: i tried to search but didn't find anything
Uljahn: print(b"print('hello')".decode('utf-16-le'))
Lugassi: If I still remember its like code encoding rewrite online or some like that!
Lugassi: But The Code Ulijahn works to...
ycsvenom: thanks
ycsvenom: worked successfully
jacek: https://clemg.github.io/pythongolfer/
Laki_42: Is it allowed to use pythongolfer, I used it before but I didn;t know is it allowed or not ?
Wontonimo: it isn't an auto win
5DN1L: nobody says it's disallowed so far
Wontonimo: you still have to golf your code before using it to get the full advantage
Wontonimo: it won't strip comments or replace variables with shorter versions for example
Wontonimo: and sometimes it will contain a non-valid character and just wont even be accepted by CG
Blokops: my rule of thumb if that im against a ruby user then the golfer is free games else is cheating
jacek: everything is allowed until it isnt
Blokops: everything is fair in love and ruby clashs
Quidome: is this golf thing used a lot in clash?
Blokops: shortest code mode
Quidome: Yes i undertand but is it used?
Quidome: Also code Golf...
Quidome: hm... that explains :)
Laki_42: I think it is not used much, because a lot of people doesn't know about it or don't like to use it
Quidome: I simply could not understand the smallest contributions in code golf
Quidome: Maybe the have used this trick
Blokops: also belows 50 char the Pgolfer is useless
Quidome: I mean i could not figure out how they get it so small :)
Laki_42: I don't get it how in some code golfs are C in the top of leaderboard, is it some trick with it
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I published the JS and ruby versions, not sure if anyone uses them
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: oh, and the C trick too
Laki_42: what is C trick ?
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/tips-and-tricks-for-code-golfing-in-c/190897
Laki_42: Wow, I didn't know you can use scanf and printf without "stdio.h"
Quidome: What about the codingame reverse engineering optim. Any small tip is more then welcome
5DN1L: search the forum :wink:
Quidome: aha ok, look into that
5DN1L: the optim's a famous game
Quidome: it's weird :)
5DN1L: heehee
Blokops: there a tips section
Quidome: but also intriguing
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: better do the sentence tokenizer puzzle before it gets deleted
Blokops: is going to get deleted?
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I think once it hits 20 votes it gets deleted if the score is below around 3.2
5DN1L: Hmmm, the renamed bot games have revised urls now. no trace of the old names
Astrobytes: :tada:
Wontonimo: :listless-sad-cat:
5DN1L: except the quest map (don't tell CG) :zipper_mouth:
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: we'll have to make a conversion table for blaise when he gets around to submitting again
5DN1L: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/3f92f714-c749-40a5-8e9e-38092c9b53f6
Papi.Chulo: I will prostitute myself
5DN1L: I will kick you out for spamming
5DN1L: ok ban then
jacek: oO
BadBurger: hmm, marslander calc distance to vSpeed to 0. this does not correclty calculate, we are going to assume that current power = 4
BadBurger: var S = (vSpeed.toDouble().pow(2.0)) / (2*(4-3.711))
BadBurger: what have i missed?
tealfrog: how do you feel about compressing code in python with u16?
Wontonimo: hey BadBurger, do you have a replay to share?
Wontonimo: that calculation looks right
Wontonimo: tealfrog, i have no opinion. do as you please
jacek: i feel satisfaction
BadBurger: X=2500m, Y=2533m, HSpeed=0m/s VSpeed=-14m/s Fuel=516l, Angle=0°, Power=4 (4.0m/s2)
BadBurger: S=389
tealfrog: : )
BadBurger: this is stats when its vspeed 0
BadBurger: Landing in progress... X=2500m, Y=2182m, HSpeed=0m/s VSpeed=0m/s Fuel=320l, Angle=0°, Power=4 (4.0m/s2)
tealfrog: usually i wait until last moment to see if i need it
Wontonimo: ok, what's the problem BadBurger. Also, where's the replay link?
BadBurger: idk how replay helps. im doing locally. but here is a check with online engine
BadBurger: https://www.codingame.com/replay/606758942
BadBurger: y-S is not same as y when vSpeed = 0
Quidome: Nice hovering :)
Wontonimo: what is your target Y?
Wontonimo: Calculate S using S=v^2/2a like you did. if S > Y- target Y then no need to thrust. Else, thrust max
Wontonimo: so, the question is, what is your target Y ?
BadBurger: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/556ef1f9-9258-488a-a2f0-77f81f92e660
Lambert_W_Function: i swear ive had like 7 shortest modes in a row
BadBurger: is this just because it gives int and im calc float, so i loose some decimals it off a little
Wontonimo: here is a replay using only S=v^2/2a
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/replay/606764592
BadBurger: yeah but if S=v^2/2a and your target is landing_y then its not showing correctly because then vSpeed should be 0 when its on same y as landing pad
BadBurger: no?
I.T.: I will prostitute mtself for money
5DN1L: kicked
jacek: oh my
Andriamanitra: best ban that guy tbh
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: all that work just to say that again
Andriamanitra: he just said some racist stuff in a clash too
5DN1L: ok ban then
5DN1L: is it the same guy?
Andriamanitra: yeah
5DN1L: i mean i banned one just the beginning of this hour
5DN1L: almost spamming the same way
Wontonimo: hey BadBurger, not quite so, because the lander can't actually increase it's thrust to 4 all at once. The signal is to thrust 4, but it actually only increases by 1 per turn
Wontonimo: so you need a bit more logic, but the math is sound
Ben-D-Anderson: 5DN1L, that I.T. guy dropped some awful slurs in a clash of code I was in with him
BadBurger: solved it.
5DN1L: hmmm that's bad, Ben-D-Anderson
Ben-D-Anderson: yeah
5DN1L: let's hope similar guys don't come again (though it's likely they do)
Ben-D-Anderson: mhm
5DN1L: some people just like wasting their time
5DN1L: why not do some coding?
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: it is the same guys over and over
Ben-D-Anderson: exactly, I spend my fridays solving algorithm problems cos im just that cool
5DN1L: :sunglasses:
Lambert_W_Function: gaming
5DN1L: Lambert_W_Function get the 8th shortest mode in a row!
Wontonimo: softest landing i could manage https://www.codingame.com/replay/606767548
Lambert_W_Function: fr though if u look at my history (idk if u can), u can see the past 10 or so have been shortest modes
5DN1L: i can't
5DN1L: but i believe you
5DN1L: i've had shortest mode for a few days in a row if i remember correctly
Lambert_W_Function: usually i get a good mix, but like 95% of today's have been shortest lmao
5DN1L: at least it's not 100% :D
Lambert_W_Function: yeah lol
Ninjadinogal: yo dumb question but how do I move on from my league? I'm currently number 1 in wood 1 and idk why it won't give me access to bronze rules and such?
5DN1L: Your games are still running
5DN1L: Wait until they're all finished
5DN1L: If by then your score beats the boss's score, then you're promoted
5DN1L: You can see the progress of your games by clicking LAST BATTLES
Ninjadinogal: ah ok gotcha, thanks. Was just resetting it too frequently :sweat_smile:
5DN1L: :)
Squar3: did they change the path of alogrithms??
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: somebody approve this so I'll have something to do
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/7702b4597b496e6b3310e47f833855a42c10
Wontonimo: it looks like you'll have to do something
ninjadip: wha'ts poppin everyone
Blokops: birds mostly
ninjadip: poppin not pooping
ninjadip: i always wonder what makes one bird spot a cooler bird hangout than other places.
Blokops: maybe is lile highschool
Blokops: some bird are emo, other weebs, etc
ninjadip: hmm
Blokops: fun fact pigons dont rest in trees
Blokops: ever
ninjadip: i don't have any pigeons
ninjadip: but that is interesting
ninjadip: we have one place in our city that has a lot of electrical transformers at that inersection and there is an audible, very audible, artificial owl noise on a constant loop
ninjadip: i wonder if it's for the electrical stuff or the billboards right above it, to keep s*** off their billboard space
Josdel: hello
Josdel: hello
ninjadip: hi there
Wontonimo: hiya
Wontonimo: oh, ninjadip Blokops and Josdel all online at the same time :wave:
Josdel: How are Wantonimo?
Josdel: :thinking:
Josdel: Won*
Wontonimo: pretty good
Wontonimo: what have you been working on Josdel ?
Wontonimo: your rank is 14012. Have you thought of worrking on that by playing a multi?
Wontonimo: can't get much higher with just clash
ninjadip: whats up Wontonimo
ninjadip: playin some don't panic 2 here
ninjadip: making elevators for my little lemmings now
Wontonimo: nice. i did some clean up on "CG's Next Top Model" to get it ready for approval
Wontonimo: re-read marchetes write up on alphastar. That is quite setup he spells out for training NN
ninjadip: training NN?
ninjadip: just had a duh moment, I had my guys making elevators when they where none, but they kept wanting to make them, then i realized I never added these elvators to the vector for them to stop PANICing and making elevators lol
npc1640: anyway i can retrace the code of my clash ?
Wontonimo: do you have a copy?
Wontonimo: if no : then no; if yes : then yes;
ninjadip: I love easy fixes
npc1640: when the clash over , i forgot to save other's grat code ;(
npc1640: great
Wontonimo: move on with life. heck, move onto multis instead of clash
Josdel: Wontonimo, for the moment I haven't been doing many exercises here (they make me think for a long time until I find the answer ;_;), sometimes I'm doing the katas or playing with my friends clash
Wontonimo: play Tron (aka line racing) or mad pod racing
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/mad-pod-racing
Husoski: npct1640 look in your notifications to find the notice of your finish, click on that and you can get back to the results page and see submissions.
Josdel: hmmm
Josdel: :thinking:
Husoski: npc1640 look in your notifications to find the notice of your finish, click on that and you can get back to the results page and see submissions.
Josdel: I will try
Wontonimo: hm? what are you thinking Josdel? oh, my last comment was for npc1640
Wontonimo: but yeah, give it a try also Josdel !
Wontonimo: another multi to try is connect 4
Wontonimo: you can make a starter bot to just play randomly
Wontonimo: and then add to it
npc1640: that helps ! but i cleared that notification i need , so stupid i am .
npc1640: thank you husoski
npc1640: suddenly i found that notificatio hasn't been deleted ! much thanks:yum:
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: hmmm, I can get the right answer by sticking in a couple reverses, but wouldn't swear it is right
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: that 3D printer puzzle...
Wontonimo: i'm not sure how it is difficult
Wontonimo: is it that it is too large? Can't you just use each side as a cut and remove
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: it is the usual, getting the thing turned around the same way the author envisions
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: like blockout but much easier
Wontonimo: wouldn't numpy make quick work of this?
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Beats me. Haven't used python much
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: The python guys seem to be able to do just about anything in 10 lines
Wontonimo: time to jump on that wagon Gloriasticles
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I can do all the simple stuff. Too much manual reading to figure out what all those libraries are doing
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: I never could figure out how that guy solved 5D chests using import scipy.ndimage
Wontonimo: i think it is messed up
Wontonimo: everything passes other than chair
Wontonimo: ah, i had the coordinates backwards
Wontonimo: done, approved
Wontonimo: if you want to see my solution Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker I posted it
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: ah, nice
Wontonimo: did you have a solution ready?
Wontonimo: that was a little fast :smirk:
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: yeah, I published it
Wontonimo: neat
Wontonimo: i'm outta here! bed time
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: gn