Wontonimo: finally I can make community contributions that get more a lot more upvotes than down votes. This feels like a milestone.
struct: grats
Wontonimo: thanks !
struct: not sure if I can trust my breathrough numbers
Wontonimo: oh, what numbers are you getting?
struct: out of 512x512 possible states, ignoring invalid ones
struct: 258144 positions seem won after player that defended moved
struct: so only 4k out of the 512^2 are defendable
Wontonimo: 4K / 262k
struct: I guess it makes sense because if you have 2 pieces on rank 7 its an auto win
struct: so only there its 256*512
eulerscheZahl: hi, still or already awake?
Wontonimo: still
struct: still
Rizal87: hi
DarkAstro: is it really bad to start with c++ as a first code language?
Wontonimo: hey Rizal87, you look new. welcome. talk about coding or codingame.
struct: no
struct: its the right choice
DarkAstro: ok thanks
Wontonimo: personally I really liked that one of my first languages that I learnt was C
struct: can be frustrating though
struct: but not more frustrating than C
Wontonimo: I didn't spend long in it, but it was a fantastic base. I also did some assembly. That was eye opening.
DarkAstro: what did u do to learn ur language?
DarkAstro: this website?
Wontonimo: this website didn't existing in 1985, so no
Wontonimo: i copied code from books
Wontonimo: and made text adventure games
struct: this websites is to improve your current skills
Wontonimo: like this https://tech.io/snippet/HQ73Pjw
struct: you can also learn, but you will need a little bit of knowledge
DarkAstro: oh so it's not beginner friendly
DarkAstro: any weebsite recs for me?
Wontonimo: well, I'm friendly. But the challenges here are probably way too hard for someone with less than 1 month of experience
eulerscheZahl: we have challenges?
DarkAstro: i just need the fasts way to learn c++ to start develping my game
Wontonimo: nope
DarkAstro: fastest*
Wontonimo: won't happen. sorry.
Wontonimo: two competing priorities
Wontonimo: make game - learn c++. Learning c++ well takes time and patience. Making a game quickly is the opposite
eulerscheZahl: for writing a game fast while till learning, c++ is probably one of the worst choices
Wontonimo: chose one. if you choose making a game quickly then use a drop-and-drag action game engine
DarkAstro: idk what to do, i'm 18 n imma need money
Wontonimo: well, making games IS NOT it.
Wontonimo: the average pay for making a game is about $0.03 per hour
eulerscheZahl: complicated language where you need an in-depth understanding. and popular frameworks like unity don't use c++
Wontonimo: instead work on business programs
Wontonimo: or websites
DarkAstro: okay will do
Wontonimo: working on automating data entry for a financial company pays in the range of $60k to $90k per year. making games pays in the range of $100 to $900 per year
eulerscheZahl: also money as a motivation to start coding, hmm
it will take a while to get productive. you need passion to get there
Wontonimo: ^^ exactly
bennettj: if making games for fun, i think its best to learn by making games, as opposed to going and learning a language
Wontonimo: you didn't learn to read in 1 month and you didn't learn all of your math knowledge in 1 month. Programming is about as challenging as either of those
eulerscheZahl: i started university 10 years ago. graduated, got a job. still learning. and lots of new technology popping up all the time
eulerscheZahl: there is no such thing as mastering the field and then leaning back
eulerscheZahl: except when you maintain old Cobol systems :thinking:
DarkAstro: I see, ig i'll spend one hour of learning code and just take it slow and continue Video Editing
DarkAstro: i also want to learn 3d and 2d animation
struct: I just woke up and knew programming
struct: it was easy
eulerscheZahl: you can totally try to get into coding and build a game. just telling that c++ isn't the easiest way to get into it
DarkAstro: but i want to use unreal engine
eulerscheZahl: have a look at unity and c# if you want to see fast results that give you a rewarding feeling to keep going
struct: im not sure how beginner frinedly UE is
eulerscheZahl: ok, for unreal engine c++ is the right choice
struct: and making a game before knowing the basics seem a recipe for disaster
eulerscheZahl: ^
eulerscheZahl: set yourself goals that challenge you but are realistic
DarkAstro: okay, got it... i just wish i started coding earlier when i had more time
struct: Well its not late
eulerscheZahl: and entering is easier than it used to be just 10 years ago. lots of resources to start with
DarkAstro: well do you guys have any fun game like websites/apps like this beginner friendly. If not just give me a link how'd you guys learned and i'll start there
DarkAstro: like this but beginner friendly*
Wontonimo: unity3d has a bunch of beginner tutorials for C#
Wontonimo: but by beginner, what is mean is having at least some prior programming experience
Killer_Kat: Just do it man, I learnt a bunch of C# and made a nice game in unity. I never published it but I learned a lot and it was very fun and rewarding
Killer_Kat: Its going to be difficult at times no matter where you start but if you stick with it thats the important part
LazyfromDiscord: hilleooi
Mortis_666: hi
Tarctic: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2103906fc45bfcaf9f242bf1a4de09c905e6188
Uljahn: Tarctic: no clash invites here. use #clash channel
Flowersquare: #clash
Flowersquare: oh... how to change channel?
ZXC01: you can add a channel by using#
ZXC01: followed by a random name
Flowersquare: nothing happens after I type #clash
Mortis_666: u should click on it
ZXC01: click on the yellow one
Flowersquare: hahahaha got it. thank you all~
ZXC01: or use command /join clash
Flowersquare: how can I get a chance to get a parttime job by playing coding games?
Flowersquare: I know only python for now
ZXC01: press 'get a job'
Flowersquare: that seems to be a fulltime job webpage
ZXC01: hmm i think both is included
Flowersquare: oh let me check again
ZXC01: when a company contacts you you just say you wants a part time job
Wontonimo: no one wants to hire a part time programmer imho
ZXC01: lol
ZXC01: btw most programer knows more than one language
Wontonimo: it just doesn't really make business sense to have a part time programmer. Your effectiveness is a function of how well you know the system, and how well you know the system is a function of how much time you send on it. Part time means partly effective
Flowersquare: emmmm I was thinking I can make some script with python and sell it for coins...
ZXC01: lol
ZXC01: start an website then
Flowersquare: do you mean "build a website"?
Wontonimo: I am a recovering entrepreneur. My new mission in life is to dash the dreams of would be entrepreneur with the harsh realities of 'striking out on your own'. Just get a job.
Wontonimo: It pays way more, has much better benefits, is dependable, and the banks will treat you 100x better for being part of mainstream society
Flowersquare: I got a child to look after. I can't be full-timed...
Wontonimo: that's a tough situation
Andrisssd: hello world
C26_1: hello world
Flowersquare: hello worlds
C26_1: welcome to the world of programming
C26_1: Here, you'll find a lot of thing behind a lot of things in life
C26_1: Sorry
C26_1: My bad punctuation
Andrisssd: im here to grab money bags......
C26_1: What
Andrisssd: or its not true
C26_1: Have you ever know why your PC is work?
C26_1: Or your TV
C26_1: or anything that is run by eletrical?
Flowersquare: I can't save my location in the "get a job" page. it always says "this field is required" even I typed my city...
C26_1: That's Computer Science (CS)
Uljahn: oO
C26_1: Ok
C26_1: What city do you live?
Flowersquare: Guangzhou, China
C26_1: Or a full address if you can
C26_1: ok
Flowersquare: I tried a full address. not working
C26_1: Go to "Get a job" page
C26_1: At box "Find me a job around"
C26_1: Type in Guangzhow
C26_1: Guangzhou*
C26_1: It will pop out the city for you
Flowersquare: nothing pops out...
C26_1: Guangzhou, Guangdong, China
Flowersquare: not even once...
C26_1: Have you see this address pop out?
Flowersquare: nope...nothing ever pop out
C26_1: ok
Flowersquare: how do I check if I have banned anything? though I thought none...
C26_1: @Flowersquare
C26_1: Click in the 'community' tab
C26_1: Then choose 'Discord'
C26_1: Do you have Discord before?
Flowersquare: I should have one before
Flowersquare: oh I need to set vpn to use discord...
Flowersquare: maybe next time...
Uljahn: ye, you have to use vpn because Codingame uses Google services which are blocked in China
C26_1: ok
C26_1: Have anyone here heard about Dijkstra's Algorithm?
C26_1: Its infamous right?
C26_1: So I'm gonna test it in a map
C26_1: A reap map
C26_1: real*
C26_1: I don't know if this mission will success
C26_1: Ok
C26_1: So as I say
C26_1: Dijkstra's Algo is very fast
eulerscheZahl: depends on the size of the map
C26_1: Ok
eulerscheZahl: use A* if you need a more directed search and can estimate how far you are away from the target
eulerscheZahl: "ye, you have to use vpn because Codingame uses Google services which are blocked in China"
eulerscheZahl: wondering if new Chinese users can even register now..
eulerscheZahl: as we have the captcha on login now
NotANick: is php compiler in here kinda broken?
eulerscheZahl: is PHP compiled?
NotANick: kinda?
NotANick: because it is compiling when you are send the request and sens you compiled one.
NotANick: sends you*
eulerscheZahl: i see. somehow i thought it was interpreted
Wontonimo: i thought it was interpreted most of the time but does hot compiling as it sees fit for tight loops, much like java does
eulerscheZahl: java compiles to bytecode before, can you still call this interpreted?
Wontonimo: but for tight loops it compiles the bytecode to assembly
Wontonimo: and runs compiled on metal
ZXC01: lol moderators debating
Wontonimo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HotSpot_(virtual_machine)
C26_1: To understand recursion, you need to understand recursion
-- Random Quote --
Wontonimo: php has jit "just in time" compiler which converts php bytecode to native machine code https://www.zend.com/blog/exploring-new-php-jit-compiler
C26_1: You've just choosing friends so specifically that you have no friends at all
-- SQL Quotes --
C26_1: Semicolon is one of most hated punctuation mark ever
-- Senior --
C26_1: When you stuck at any interviews, just say hash table
-- Coder --
Wontonimo: that actually works some times
C26_1: You know that your programming lang is hard when it looks like a alien lang to communicate instead
-- Esolang --
starnayte: someone know how to debug a program, without using printf ?
5DN1L: the default code tells you how
eulerscheZahl: there is no way to set breakpoints here on the website. use an offline IDE
jacek: oh my
MAN110: done
DialFrost: ello
C26_1: hello
ducuuuuu: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/21040930b10355e456244ca0f9211b4d8a96b9c
C26_1: @ducuuuuu, you don't need to share link at this public chat
Uljahn: ^ this chat is for discussions. not for spamming invites
Uljahn: use #clash channel for that (type /join clash)
C26_1: @all
C26_1: I found a way to distinct between interpreter and compiler
C26_1: Interpreter doing its work by repeating this procedure:
- Check if the next line of code is right and no syntax error
C26_1: - If that line of code has no syntax error then it translate that code into 1 or more than 1 line of machine code
C26_1: - Do the machine code that has been translated
C26_1: Compiler is different though
C26_1: Compiler:
- Check all line of code if there is at least one of them has syntax error
- If there is no syntax error, translate all line of code into machine code but don't run it yet, and that file will be use whenever we want to use it
C26_1: @Uljahn, have any idea?
Uljahn: don't ping me pls
C26_1: ok
C26_1: sorry
CreeZzoo: someone can help me?
AntiSquid: what is your follow up question?
CreeZzoo: about loop
AntiSquid: hmm i need a set of pliers to pull the actual question out of you ?
CreeZzoo: question mad pod racing
C26_1: There is two kind of loops:
- The first one is variables that use to keep track how some code will be repeated lots of time
- The second one is variables that like the first one AND use in calculation
C26_1: So be careful when your program has a lot of loops
C26_1: Um
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 can teach you how to listen to your heart and ask what you truly want to ask
Automaton2000: i was using the wrong language
C26_1: Is there a way to delete a variable in some programming language?
C26_1: Like C, C++?
eulerscheZahl: let it go out of scope?
AntiSquid: i guess not C26_1 https://www.cplusplus.com/forum/beginner/82290/
C26_1: ok
C26_1: So there are 2 ways to delete a variable:
C26_1: clear(<variable name>)
AntiSquid: how old are you c26_1 ?
C26_1: I'm 13
C26_1: But that doesn't mean kids cannon learn programming language
AntiSquid: oh ok you have until the age of 38 to become the next mcsmitz
C26_1: I'm just a culture boy
C26_1: @AntiSquid, ok
The_King_of_Demons: The @ does nothing C26_1
The_King_of_Demons: Just sayin
AntiSquid: true, use # instead, since that at least creates a new chatroom
5DN1L: Use # on Anti Squid's name to create a new chatroom, ok
The_King_of_Demons: #AntiSquid
The_King_of_Demons: click on it :)
The_King_of_Demons: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
**The_King_of_Demons says to click on this tag: #AntiSquid
The_King_of_Demons: nvm
ankan2526: @GoogleJeff
GoogleJeff: @ankan2526
ankan2526: :joy:
LazyfromDiscord: what is TH ?
LazyfromDiscord: ankan from hyderabad?
LazyfromDiscord: :-D
Comder: I limke to comde
Comder: Wbu
ankan2526: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/21045345aeb5699d954b6a4b8d5959dabadf99c
Comder: Hello fellow comders
xangeliczx: hello
AntiSquid: ankan2526 #clash is for clash links
Amir_Dev: re
UZUHAMA: Hello world
Lisa-Has-Ideas: HELLO coders of hte WORLD
jacek: oO
Coding_Master_Eli: yo man
Coding_Master_Eli: :joy
Nyakkaraj: hi
UZUHAMA: Hello
Lurreax: is there any way to continue coding after the time runs out in clash of code if you didnt finish in time?
Dren: no
Uljahn: Lurreax: you could try to find the clash with this tool https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/
Uljahn: then click "view contribution" and "test in IDE"
Uljahn: wth,"test in IDE" does nothing atm, could be a bug
TTeaLL: а до этого какие ивенты были?
TTeaLL: я чёт не припоминаю
Marco1321: e
ZXC01: hi
Marco1321: hey
ZXC01: ?
PATTRIM: hi
Dren: hi
Hoke: Hi
RegexPro: hi
ankan2526: Hi
Andrew_OHara: doesn't github co-pilot basically obsolete clash of code?
RandomAustralian: *e*
RegexPro: ^u^
Wontonimo: anyone want help on mad pod racing? Hint: go faster
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/coders-strike-back
DialFrost: bruh
Wontonimo: you want more hints than that DialFrost
DialFrost: er maybe?
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/replay/594545637
Wontonimo: you missed checkpoint 3
Wontonimo: yikes, and orbited around it
DialFrost: mhm
DialFrost: the dumb boost
DialFrost: lol
Wontonimo: so, when you are close to a checkpoint you could slow down so you don't overshoot
Wontonimo: same with boosting. only boost when far from a checkpoint and aiming pretty much at it
DialFrost: the thing is idk when to boos
Wontonimo: implement that and i'll give you some better hints
DialFrost: boost*
Wontonimo: don't need boost until gold
DialFrost: wait wattttttttttttttttt
Wontonimo: but if you want, a lot of people use it when facing a checkpoint and far
DialFrost: hm okey thx
Wontonimo: go as fast as you can, but no faster. i guess that second part is just as important as the first
Wontonimo: also, read this ! https://w3.cs.jmu.edu/spragunr/CS354_F17/handouts/pid.pdf It will make your bot nearly unstoppable
Thorcode: WOnton, do you have any advise to use boost, I got distance of checkpoints.
Wontonimo: when farr distance > 4000 and pointing at it abs(angle) < 10 then boost
Wontonimo: but you
Wontonimo: but you are already in high gold
Thorcode: nah in gold have no angle
Thorcode: my bot pretty stupid in boosting and drifting
Wontonimo: you do have angle
Thorcode: it is my pod angle
Thorcode: not checkpoint
Thorcode: ah I forget to read expert rule
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/594873172
Wontonimo: this is just PID and drift
Precision59: hi
Mortis_666: hi
Wontonimo: play the mad pod race! I'll give you hints
Precision59: does anyone know how to do the mad pod racing
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/coders-strike-back
Wontonimo: yes, i do
Precision59: can u pls help me lol
Wontonimo: how far are you? have you figured out that you need to aim at X,Y instead of Y,Y ?
Precision59: omg
Precision59: i didnt see that lol
Precision59: ive been sitting here for ages like everythings correct
Precision59: thanks
Wontonimo: step 1 - read instructions which tell you that there is an error on that line
Wontonimo: step 2 - increase thrust to 100
Precision59: do i make a thrust variable?
Mortis_666: mad pod racing not so fun
Wontonimo: not yet. set it to 100
Precision59: where though
Wontonimo: in the code
Wontonimo: on the same line as the x and y are set
Precision59: yea but where in the code
Precision59: ohh
Precision59: ok
Wontonimo: i mean printed
Wontonimo: hey Mortis_666 , if you can make your pod slow down when it is close to a checkpoint, it will help a lot
Wontonimo: like maybe
thrust = 100 if distance > 1200 else 50
Wontonimo: you'll have to calculate distance
Precision59: theres no thrust var
Wontonimo: make one
Mortis_666: idk i dont understand this game so much
Wontonimo: are you a programmer or a ... something else
Precision59: u just said not to lol ill make one ahah
Wontonimo: i was talking to Mortis_666
Mortis_666: abd how u make red text
Wontonimo: yoiu don't need it hyet
Precision59: ohhh
Wontonimo: just put the persons name in the text
Wontonimo: this is without your name
Mortis_666: ok
Wontonimo: this is Mortis_666
Mortis_666: nais
Wontonimo: no "@" needed
Mortis_666: Wontonimo
Wontonimo: there is also an auto complete, so for saying my name you could just type 'wonto[tab]'
Precision59: Precision59
Precision59: oh cool
Mortis_666: nais
Precision59: Mortis_666
Mortis_666: cool
Precision59: cool
Wontonimo: let me know once you are in wood 1 league Precision59 and then i'll give you another hint
Precision59: ok thanks
StepBack13: freaky need love too 30
Wontonimo: if you want something easier I made an easy puzzle called fax machine
Precision59: im at wood 3 i think
Precision59: oh no wood 2
Wontonimo: good job, you fixed the bug
Precision59: thanks
Wontonimo: submit it agian
Precision59: im using python now lol
Precision59: im better at python than c#
Precision59: just wanted to learn more c#
Aaronnotsharon: can someone help me with the horse-racing duels? My coding "is not optimized enought to handle some cases" and idk how to make it more optimized
Thorcode: lang?
Aaronnotsharon: c++
Wontonimo: what is the concept behind yourr current solution?
Thorcode: I think I can't
Wontonimo: Dont Paste Your Solution !
Thorcode: nah
Thorcode: I won't paste it
Wontonimo: but explain the concept plx Aaronnotsharon
Thorcode: bruh my solution publish alot
Aaronnotsharon: I'm using a pointer to fill my array and then I am using nested for loops to process the information. The one it can't process has something like 10000 different horses to process.
Thorcode: make a var like n =100000
Aaronnotsharon: well thats not the problem, I think its taking too long to process the info...
Mortis_666: Why there is no save draft button when making a contribution
Aaronnotsharon: Failure
Process has timed out. This may mean that your solution is not optimized enough to handle some cases.
Aaronnotsharon: thats exactly what it is saying when it failes
Thorcode: which case?
Wontonimo: there is Mortis_666
Mortis_666: Where?
Wontonimo: save it as private
Aaronnotsharon: only the "Many horses" case. has that failure. all the other ones are passing. the Many Horses has 10000 horses though, while the others have like 10
Thorcode: use list?
Wontonimo: so, the problem is definitely that your solution will take way too long
Mortis_666: O thx so much!!!
Wontonimo: can you think of a faster way of checking 2 horses
Thorcode: list
Thorcode: is fastest I think
Aaronnotsharon: yea.. and i thought list you can only have what is either at the top for stack or what is at the front or back for queue.
Thorcode: use sort
Aaronnotsharon: oh, i didnt know there is a sort function. thanks i'll try using that.
Thorcode: even though I don't know if c++ have sort
Thorcode: ah yes It have
Codyz: hey, help me when i use BOOTS in Mad Pod Racing it error: invalid input. Expected 'x y power' but found '13476 2326 BOOTS'
Wontonimo: boots ?
Thorcode: BOOST
Mortis_666: lol
Wontonimo: how about shoes or sandles
Mortis_666: 🤣😂
Wontonimo: you asked this same thing a couple days ago
Thorcode: :joy::joy::joy:
Mortis_666: Thorcode try play https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/clash-of-bots
Thorcode: nah
Mortis_666: its fun
Thorcode: nah
Wontonimo: i'll join if you join Thorcode
Thorcode: just print self destruction to win
Mortis_666: nah
Thorcode: really
Wontonimo: yup
Wontonimo: oh ... no
Thorcode: but I'm working on bottle
Thorcode: of the gala
Wontonimo: i through it was something else
Mortis_666: self destruction kill ur bot and only deal 4 damage
Wontonimo: gattle of the galaxy? link?
Thorcode: 10
Thorcode: nah botter of the galaxy
Wontonimo: ah
Thorcode: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/botters-of-the-galaxy
Wontonimo: yahh 4 damage to 4 adjacent squares = 16. and you can do it wen you only have 2 health left. good trade
Thorcode: or have 1 health
Mortis_666: yep
Wontonimo: maybe even 3, but who knows
Thorcode: I'm in woood 2 in botters
Thorcode: that's kinda tough
Wontonimo: botters kicked my butt
Thorcode: ah you in bronze
Wontonimo: btw, i golfed my horse-racing duals to be 2 lines of python just a few minutes ago for fun
Thorcode: nice
Wontonimo: it's unreadable of course
Wontonimo: hey Thorcode, did you read all the instuctions for botters of the galaxy?
Thorcode: yep
Thorcode: but I cannot read the item name in it
Wontonimo: ?
Thorcode: in the var
Wontonimo: 'item_name' : inputs[0], # contains keywords such as BRONZE, SILVER and BLADE, BOOTS connected by "_" to help you sort easier
Thorcode: ah It change randomly
Thorcode: "_" not help me sort easier
Wontonimo: yeah, i don't sort by name
Wontonimo: i have a function that reads a line of items for sale and returns a dictionary containing damage, health, mana, etc
Thorcode: ah nice
Thorcode: I think I should make a def like that
Wontonimo: def read_item(): http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f9659fc9-fc6c-49e8-854b-9a20ef2855ee
Wontonimo: could have made an object, but there wasnt much i wanted to do with it
Thorcode: I should delete all of the "_" in the item name
Thorcode: thanks I know how to do this
Bob_Rocks: Guys I'm wood 1 in cyborg uprising 😤I've finally gotten up 2 ranks
Wontonimo: :tada: :tada: :tada:
Mortis_666: is there any easy understandable bot programming game that have a bronze league?
Wontonimo: line racer
Wontonimo: it is tron
Mortis_666: link
Mortis_666: this?https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/tron-battle
Wontonimo: yes
Mortis_666: ok
Mortis_666: imma try
Mortis_666: interesting
Thorcode: Mortis_666 try mean max
Mortis_666: ?
Thorcode: in bot programming
Mortis_666: ok im trying line racing
Thorcode: line kinda hard
Mortis_666: where is 0,0?
Thorcode: try printing 0,0
Thorcode: to know it
Wontonimo: if in line racer you are about to hit somethihng, don't. instead turn left (orr right)
Wontonimo: don't over think it
Mortis_666: bruh u can only know its head and tail position
Wontonimo: no
Mortis_666: so u have to store their body's position urself?
Wontonimo: yeah bruh
Mortis_666: kden
Wontonimo: !kden
Rizal87: hi
