Coding_Aria: Hi Codyz
Coding_Aria: Wontonimo, let's chat in #chatroom
Wontonimo: nah, i'll chat here if that's okay
Coding_Aria: Okay
Codeab: hai wontonimo
Codeab: closed the tab yet?
Codeab: :)
Wontonimo: yeah
Codeab: wanna clash?
Coding_Aria: Sure, Codeab
Codeab: wontonimo u in too?
Wontonimo: nope, go have fun
Codeab: :(
Codeab: aww y
Coding_Aria: tt
Coding_Aria: T_T
Codeab: star the clash aria
Wontonimo: not in the mood. have fun !
Codeab: start*
Coding_Aria: OK
Codeab: thx
Codeab: gl
Coding_Aria: ^
Coding_Aria: Could you give me any hint?
Wontonimo: ng all, it's midnight here.
Coding_Aria: It's 1:53PM here (daytime)
Coding_Aria: It's 1:54AM there, right?
Codeab: its 1254 pm here
Coding_Aria: Then Singapore time is 1 hour later than South Korean time
Codeab: qns tho
Codeab: y is there so few code golf challenges
Codeab: codingame should agg more
Coding_Aria: Golf challenges are so hard
Coding_Aria: Well, did you tried WINAMAX Sponsored Contest?
pyprogammer: when are these challenges conducted?
ZXC01: hi
ZXC01: hi
ZXC01: hi
ZXC01: o
ZXC01: o
ZXC01: o
pyprogammer: hi
Coding_Aria: Hey, ZXC01, if you spam then you'll be banned
ZXC01: how
Atharv-.-: hello
Coding_Aria: pyprogrammer, the WINAMAX Sponsored Contest can be played at any time.
Uljahn: ZXC01: wanna try?
Atharv-.-: :p
Atharv-.-: Mods are here always :eyes:
Coding_Aria: Not always.
Atharv-.-: So u r one of the mod
Atharv-.-: ?
Coding_Aria: I'm not a moderator
Coding_Aria: But Uljahn is a moderator
Atharv-.-: :EYES
Atharv-.-: :EYES:
Coding_Aria: There's also Nicola and Illedan here as moderators
Atharv-.-: :eyes:
Coding_Aria: :eyes:
Atharv-.-: Okay
Uljahn: mods are not CG employees, they have their own work to do, so they are here in their free time
Atharv-.-: Okay
Coding_Aria: Oh! I thought they're employees from CodinGame
Coding_Aria: Atharv, who is your favorite moderator?
Atharv-.-: So how u u guys ban if u are not the employees?
Uljahn: mod == moderator
Coding_Aria: First, they warn. Then, they report. After that, they ban them.
Atharv-.-: I just entered the chat Coding_Aria .. Idk any mod here
Atharv-.-: Ooo okay..hm
Coding_Aria: Well, I don't know how others become moderators...
Atharv-.-: :shrug:
Coding_Aria: There are 3 mods here
Atharv-.-: :joy:
Atharv-.-: Ooo
Atharv-.-: :wind:
Atharv-.-: Idk much about the mods here.. ik about discord.. :rolling_eyes:
Uljahn: moderators are selected among most loyal regular users by CG staff
Coding_Aria: Moderators are always kind, they check if there's a one spamming or saying inappropriate contents
Atharv-.-: Well this chat is pretty active today.. good to see that..
Coding_Aria: You're right,
Coding_Aria: It was even more active few months ago
Atharv-.-: Gtg bye guys.. enjoy coding.
Coding_Aria: Okay!
Coding_Aria: Bye
Atharv-.-: I came here. 1 month ago
Coding_Aria: Well, 2 of my old accounts are hacked so I'm currently using this now, but I came here 3~4 months ago
Atharv-.-: Oooo
Atharv-.-: Accouts hack here too :eyes:
Atharv-.-: :sob:
Coding_Aria: Of course,
Atharv-.-: Bye
Coding_Aria: Actually, not only my account,
Coding_Aria: Also on my whole computer
Coding_Aria: However bye
Coding_Aria: ...3 mods and me only? That's lonely.
ZXC01: j
Coding_Aria: Wait, you're there? But you're a bit spammer
ZXC01: how come i can talk here
ZXC01: and how come he can ban me
Coding_Aria: Hey, moderators sure can ban you! Uljahn, who is one of moderators warned you. Then he might report you then ban you
ZXC01: did he unban me??????
Uljahn: it was a kick
Uljahn: so you've been warned
ZXC01: and you added me?
Coding_Aria: Hey, ZXC01, I don't think he added you, you just came to the World chat again.
Uljahn: kick forces you to leave the chat but you can rejoin, with a ban you can't rejoin
ZXC01: how did i rejoin.....
Coding_Aria: Because you're only kicked but not banned for now
Uljahn: you can press F5 or wait 5 minutes
ZXC01: ok thx
ZXC01: how do you play mad pod racing?
ZXC01: i just dont understand the instructions
Coding_Aria: I'm in Bronze League of Mad Pod Racing
ZXC01: i dont even know how to start
Coding_Aria: Well I'll tell you that1 Wait...
Coding_Aria: First, did you passed the Wood 3 League?
ZXC01: no
ZXC01: i cant even pass the first one
ZXC01: what language do you use?
Coding_Aria: Python 3
Coding_Aria: Anyone instead of moderators and ZXC01 there?
ZXC01: how did you send red message?
Coding_Aria: Red? I don't know, I just typed it normally
H00n: True
ZXC01: hi H00n
H00n: hello there
Coding_Aria: I'm back
H00n: wb
Jerrasterix: what you want to know ??
Coding_Aria: Hey Jerrasterix, I wasn't asking for something.
H00n: ZXC01 asked some questions earlier about the pod racing game
Thorcode: hi
Jerrasterix: then why were you spamming :unamused:
ZXC01: me?
Codeab: guys quick qns how many code golf challenges are there
Jerrasterix: only 4 ig
Thorcode: 4
Codeab: hmm
Thorcode: The Codeab seem pro
Codeab: ...
Codeab: y u say tat
Thorcode: he solved alot puzzle
Codeab: okey
Coding_Aria: Thorcode! You're here!
Thorcode: how could you solve vox codei
Coding_Aria: Well, I didn't solved it in 100% score though
Thorcode: no Codeab solved it
Coding_Aria: Oh
nongdancuibap: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/eab40e95-c6a3-411c-b7dc-7194fe5ea8bc
nongdancuibap: what is the correct result after toRight ?
RavenKZP: Hi, whats the trick in Solid Intiger (puzzle of the week) with "Output might overflow Validator"??
RavenKZP: I cant get why i have wrong result there :/
Coding_Aria: Sorry, RavenKZP, sharing answers aren't a good thing
5DN1L: RavenKZP Check out the forum topic and see whether the discussion there helps you
5DN1L: https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/community-puzzle-solid-integer/193345
RavenKZP: Yep, but I'm not searching for answer, just some clue
RavenKZP: @5DN1L Thanks :D
5DN1L: You're welcome :)
Codeab: ez
Coding_Aria: nicola, Codeab, Uljahn, and me. Again. I'm bored
Uljahn: pls don't ping moderators by typing their names in the chat, Coding_Aria
Codeab: ? aria is pinging?
Codeab: idk how to ping
H00n: just type someones name
Codeab: oh
Uljahn: like this, Codeab
Codeab: hello Uljahn
Uljahn: message containing your nick will be highlighted in red
Coding_Aria: Hey Codeab you also pinged a moderator
Codeab: i was testing
Codeab: ...
H00n: this is getting ridiculous :sweat_smile:
Coding_Aria: However, OK, I'll not ping anyone else in World chat, but why is it like that?
Codeab: idk
Coding_Aria: Umm hello?
Coding_Aria: Nvm.
Coding_Aria: Never mind, forget it
Coding_Aria: I can't ping moderators then can I ping others
Coding_Aria: ?
Coding_Aria: Oh come on!
Coding_Aria: I'm so bored,
Coding_Aria: No one there?
Coding_Aria: ...
Coding_Aria: Never mind
Coding_Aria: __________
Codeab: lol
Uljahn: pls go be bored somewhere else, no need to spam here
Coding_Aria: Fine... T_T
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: She doesn't spam, otherwhise she'd be banned. Think a little Uljahn... :smirk:
Mods these days...
Coding_Aria: Blaise, he said to not ping moderator names.
Uljahn: warning first, then kick, then ban, that's the mods' algo
Coding_Aria: Hey, I was just trying to ask but no one was replying me
Thorcode: how to use join to do this
Thorcode: I got 1 2 3 I want to change it to 1+2+3
Coding_Aria: I don't know
Coding_Aria: Let's chat in your private message because mods think that I spam
Thorcode: I know how to do that thanks
Coding_Aria: Umm, don't need to thank me since I didn't helped you;
Gemmelemineheure: why do I like to get into 12 year olds?
Coding_Aria: I'm 9
Gemmelemineheure: send nudes on mp
Uljahn: banhammer time :rolling_eyes:
RavenKZP: :head_bandage::hammer:
Coding_Aria: :joy:
Coding_Aria: RavenKZP is funny, he's hit by a hammer and got harmed
darkhorse64: gg Uljahn; these people are disgusting
darkhorse64: please remove this dude from fr too if you can
Uljahn: i'll try
Uljahn: i can't, sry :(
5DN1L: Maybe [CG]Thibaud can help?
Uljahn: or Magus
Coding_Aria: Come on I'm not spamming now
RavenKZP: why when i do 4611686018427387904/9 in c++ i get 512409557603043072 and in python i get 512409557603043100
RavenKZP: where res from python is correct but test from cpp pass :thinking:
Alshock: probably an overflow RavenKZP
AshuCoder: Maybe both have different ways of approximating answer
5DN1L: RavenKZP if you cast int in python it will not turn into scientific notation and get rounded
5DN1L: int(4611686018427387904/9)
[CG]Thibaud: :eyes:
Coding_Aria: Think of it yourself, you Donn't have to post it here:unamused:
RavenKZP: I'm doing this way, casting to int
Alshock: 4611686018427387904//9 in python3 yeah
Alshock: 5DN1L I think it does return a float and only then cast it to an int with a regular div though
RavenKZP: Alshock wow... worked but why?
BTW Thanks 5DN1L again i found my mistaque thanks for rours link :D
Alshock: not sure bc python
Alshock: well then I might be right / returns a float and only then you cast it back to int
Alshock: with a rounding after about 15 decimals
5DN1L: I just experimented a bit...
5DN1L: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/c305ca3f-7f9e-44a1-910a-8fc481511b4e
Coding_Aria: Why are you guys like that? You tell the answer to RavenKZP while you warn me and tell to not ask for answers when I ask?
Uljahn: Doubles have 52 mantissa bits and 2^52 = 4,503,599,627,370,496
Alshock: bc we like them and hate you ofc @Coding_Aria :smirk:
ZXC01: hello, can anyone help?how to use boost command in mad pod race
Mr.Presqu: I use it at start, but it's just useless there, perhaps use it if you get shocked out of track by other pod
ZXC01: what????
Mr.Presqu: lol
Mr.Presqu: whats your question?
Mr.Presqu: print "BOOST" i think
ZXC01: the boost command....
ZXC01: ok......?
Mr.Presqu: it only works once in the race from what i recall
[CG]Thibaud: it's written in the statement
ZXC01: hmmmmm
ZXC01: hellllllp how to pass wood leageue 1
H00n: beat the boss
ZXC01: ...........
H00n: If you want to do it manually, watch the replays in which you lost
H00n: then figure out why you lost
H00n: and try to fix that problem
AntiSquid: and wait for 100% submit
H00n: oh true that
H00n: you can remove the boss from your test and add other players bots
ZXC01: wow antisquid is the 10th!!!!!!!
H00n: so if you are ranked high but always fail against certain other bots, you can try to figure out why
AntiSquid: oh lernard climbed cool
ZXC01: erm the video deosnt seem to move at all
H00n: then you might have thrown an exception
H00n: there should be a text in the output telling you what happened
H00n: usually in red
ZXC01: ok....
H00n: this might happen if you print our an unexpected value (out of range)
ZXC01: at first my rank 200 nw 8000
H00n: or fail to print in time
ZXC01: how to use boost
H00n: read the game description
H00n: there's documentation for it as soon as it is unlocked
H00n: the games mechanics change with each league
ZXC01: i know
H00n: then why ask?
ZXC01: print(str(next_checkpoint_x) + " " + str(next_checkpoint_y) ,'BOOST')
ZXC01: doesnt work
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: missing space
ZXC01: k thx
H00n: he should be able to figure that out given the exception
ZXC01: print(str(next_checkpoint_x) + " " + str(next_checkpoint_y) +' '+BOOST')
ZXC01: cannot....
ZXC01: Timeout: the program did not provide 1 input lines in due time... ZXC01 will no longer be active in this game.
ZXC01: helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllp
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: There's probably another error message before.
ZXC01: while True: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/eca34074-ec14-4161-94ec-7b57b9aeca65
ZXC01: this is my code
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: This is.
ZXC01: ???
ZXC01: helppppp
ZXC01: help
help
help
ZXC01: :cry:
[CG]Thibaud: don't do that
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: Stop spamming, start reading ZXC01...
ZXC01: hellllllllllllp
Uljahn: ZXC01: try print(next_checkpoint_x, next_checkpoint_y, 'BOOST')
Uljahn: and stop yelling
ZXC01: ok thanks
ZXC01: but where???
5DN1L: And the thrust in your code is wrongly formatted too
5DN1L: Stop yelling here
ZXC01: how then....
[CG]Thibaud: next is ban ZXC01
ZXC01: bruh.....
Uljahn: you should learn the basics of python before you start practicing
ZXC01: i learnt
Uljahn: you wish
ZXC01: im 3790th in clash of codes
ZXC01: i just dont undrstand this ai thing
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: No. You need to read. Read the stateement, read the previous answers, read the error logs, and even read what you did in your code...
Uljahn: try "Power of Thor - Episode 1" puzzle, it's very similar to bot ai games, also it has hints on the left to make things clear
ZXC01: ok thx
Yayax: :heart:
H00n: who is the mod in the german channel? he/she might want to look into it, there's someone posting pedo messages there :disappointed:
[CG]Thibaud: thanks
LelouchVC2: u guys are up late
LelouchVC2: or up early
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: or not in your time zone...
LelouchVC2: imagine not living in my time zone
Yayax: what do you mean pedo messages are you talking about mine ?.?
Yayax: oh my bad you're talking about the german chan :x
H00n: there was someone talking about having sex with minorities and spamming cursewords for no reason
H00n: *minors lol
H00n: *minors lol
H00n: sry tried to edit didn't want to spam my self
Yayax: ... what kind of trash can type that
Yayax: hope he got banned
Alshock: hey there I'm facing a weird issue: my C++ code segfaults when I optimze it (O3 or 0fast) - ofc it segfaults on optimized out variables. It sounds like there's an undefined behaviour somewhere. But if I send the code in valgrind the code works AND it doesn't find any error or warning (-Wall -Werror yields nothing either)
Alshock: what could I do to track down what's really happening ?
DomiKo: -Wall -Werror won't find undefined behaviour
DomiKo: you need flags for debuging
DomiKo: -g -fsanitize=undefined -fsanitize=address
DomiKo: these will help
Yayax: Hi, I'm new to python and I'm trying to get the next element of my list but it keeps telling me "can't concatenate str to int, could some one help me pls ?
Yayax: here's the code I typed
Yayax: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a2804d2b-0ba8-4843-86c1-21005eb1a448
Yayax: line 6
Yayax: sry wasn't the full code, here is it
Yayax: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/52eb03f6-2765-4542-8472-00dfa9d44529
5DN1L: Not sure what binaire contains, but if the variable i is a string, you cannot add 1 to it directly?
Yayax: oh right sorry it's a list
Yayax: here's the def
Yayax: def convert_to_binary(uncodded): http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/3a1f81a4-3e41-40f5-8075-95c161295cc8
Yayax: I'm not trying to add 1 I want to check the next element of i
5DN1L: then it would not be i+1
Yayax: ok I see, do you know which command I should use to check the next element of my list ?
5DN1L: name_of_list[index+1]
Yayax: Thank you very much for that fast response !
5DN1L: You're welcome :)
Yayax: :)
Yayax: btw just for my own education is there a reason i and index doesn't do the same ? I thought i ment index ^^'
Alshock: @DomiKo but they also let it pass without a word (valgrind does basically the same)
nicknameasterix: guys, what does $< mean in ruby? I know gets assigns to $_, but no mention of $<
Alshock: @Yayax for i in ... b
Alshock: means i becomes each elements of ... consecutively
Uljahn: Yayax: you can do "for ix, nb in enumerate(i):", then ix will be current index, and nb will be equal to i[ix], and the next element will be i[ix+1]
Alshock: if you want the index do for i, value, in enumerate(...)
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: Alshdock
Alshock: Blaidse <3
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: :hugging:
Yayax: I see, thank you so much guys you're awsome <3
Uljahn: that's pretty basic though, more complicated solution to iterate by two consecutive pairs would be "for nb, nb_nxt in zip(i[:-1], i[1:]):"
Alshock: I think it's slower though, as you create and zip two generators
Alshock: or two entire lists? Idk how sublisting is handled behind the scenes
Uljahn: just switch to numpy and work with views (no copy or new array is created when slicing)
Damzyzx: ok
iiShrimpy: i have no idea what im doing, the introduction isnt great as it just has you copy and paste it and ive never coded before, so idk what to do.
iiShrimpy: im using python btw.
Lack2651: try some tutorials on youtube
iiShrimpy: they dont help me much.
Lack2651: you should watch introduction to programming
Lack2651: in python
Lack2651: they have a bunch of good tutorials on youtube u just have 2 look
iiShrimpy: Alright.
Lack2651: maybe i cna recommend you some lemme go see
Lack2651: if you search youtube for python tutorials for begginers there is a bunch of free stuf that pops up
iiShrimpy: ahh
Lack2651: just chose the one you like the most and learn
iiShrimpy: Its still very confusing bc i dont understand what im typing but they do.
Lack2651: idk how else I can help you
Lack2651: but in those courses they tend to explain it
Lack2651: hence the "begginers"
iiShrimpy: alright, ty, ill watch them later
Lack2651: np
Spaghetti_Code: Hello guys, is there any way to view previous clash of code problems that I've encountered? Some of them were really interesting and I was wondering if I could be able to see the problem again without a timer
5DN1L: You may search here: https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/
Zwii: dont panic
Spaghetti_Code: Thanks!
tukyiytgblen: ПР
crissb3: Hello
tukyiytgblen: HELLO
tukyiytgblen: :older_woman_tone5:
Jerrasterix: humph... automaton have took many leaves this month :rage:
geekHarsh: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2072616b76c45b47656ceb3a44aba59bdc4edb4
Jerrasterix: -> geekHarsh
Alshock: I think Automaton2000 is up though
Jerrasterix: -> #clash geekHarsh
Automaton2000: does anybody know how to write a good eval
Alshock: I don't UwU
Jerrasterix: It didn't work 5 minutes ago :thinking:
Jerrasterix: glad you are back Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i just check if a pac is dead
Alshock: It was waiting for me in the shadow
Jerrasterix: :unamused:
tukyiytgblen: :older_woman_tone5::four_leaf_clover:
Sandra_28: hi:octopus:
H00n: The better my bot gets at beating the boss, the worse they perform against other players :<
struct: which game H00n?
eulerscheZahl: maybe you should try losing vs the boss then?
Blueshirtguy: Fart
eulerscheZahl: kick
jacek: euler has no chill
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: slash
eulerscheZahl: i just threatened so far
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: Fart then /fart
JoDim98: De ste cigani?!
jacek: :no_mouth:
VincentKriek: statteee
VincentKriek: stattee
JFB: JoDim98: Ah, the similarity of the Slavic languages. Got it even without google translator. After the Poslku it will be "Jesteście Cyganami?". Or, politically more correctly, "Jesteście pochodzenia romskiego?". But to answer the question, as far as I know I am not a gypsy, for example.
JFB: It reminded me of Brad Pitt playing the gypsy boxer in 'Snatch'. I already know what I will watch tonight :-)
jacek: my little pony, the movie?
JFB: it was elementary, my dear Watson ;-)
struct: is the site bugged?
struct: is not showing the online people on the leaderboards
BlaiseVonEbuthIV: Because you're alone...
struct: its working now
struct: maybe it was just delay or something
JFB: probably
H00n: struct "Code Royale"
Wontonimo: something that happens H00n is that a solution (or bot or algo) can be too focused on a singular aspect of some problem and not really do well in the general case
Wontonimo: this is what is probably happening to your bot
eulerscheZahl: hey JFB. I saw you provided a C++ starter bot for bomberland
eulerscheZahl: i might use it as a starting place for my own C# bot (haven't decided yet, if I'll play)
Wontonimo: if instead of code royal, the game was Rock Paper Scissors and the boss always picked Rock, and the people in this league always picked Scissors, you'd not be able to get promoted if you pick paper
eulerscheZahl: do they still have the concurrent move where the faster player has an advantage?
H00n: Got to take a day next weekend to rebuild my bot from scratch, it's a hacked mess atm, since I just built on my prototype since it did so much better than I thought. It's clearly at its limits now, RIP my queen :disappointed_relieved:
jacek: prototype finished? post it to production
H00n: though it is funny I can't laugh about that
jacek: why not
adam_liu: hello everyone
adam_liu: it is me
H00n: Sounds too much like my workplace
jacek: oO
Wontonimo: hi adam_liu :wave:
BlackstrikeSK: I am wondering abt Mad Pod Racing boost thing, I can't figure out the solution.
nolcoder: hi guys how is everyone doing
asioud: im gay
nolcoder: cool
nolcoder: i have to doo school work be back in a bit
H00n: BlackstrikeSK one easy solution would be a flag outside your gameloop which tells you whether or not you used your boost
H00n: this way you make sure to use it only once and not get a misinput
asioud: Alexandre Dube
asioud: Aléxandre
Wontonimo: you can use boost multiple times. the first time it is effectively like saying "thrust 650" and every time after that it means "thrust 100"
jacek: oh really?
H00n: but that's at a higher tier right? or was I blind to that as well :D man I really haven't given that game much thought
asioud: below is gay
ForgottenNoodle_4a64: are there any girls here?
asioud: above is gay
DJDoomedOctopusFromHell_dfff: no way
asioud: gué
eulerscheZahl: grow up and stop spamming
DJDoomedOctopusFromHell_dfff: ok
ForgottenNoodle_4a64: yes asioud listen
asioud: yes forgotten noodleslisten
eulerscheZahl: struct has less patience than me :D
struct: they didnt come back :(
eulerscheZahl: funny website (sorry for German): https://afd-muell.de/
eulerscheZahl: a very right-wing german party printed flyers for the election. then they needed someone to deliver them to each citizen
eulerscheZahl: this flyer service was a completely made-up company with only a single customer: that one political party
eulerscheZahl: instead of delivering, they just shredded the flyers
nolcoder: wtf are you talking about
nolcoder: sorry
struct: "72 tons of advertising material" o.o
eulerscheZahl: AFD deserved it. they even deny a human origin of climate change
eulerscheZahl: the 72 tons of waste were already there. still waste, when you deliver it
Wontonimo: could have recycled it, or used it as wallpaper
Wontonimo: but who would want to be surrounded in that propaganda
Wontonimo: how about insulation in an "earth ship"
Wontonimo: no, same issue
Wontonimo: bad mojo for the hippie
Westicles: climate change is the 2nd biggest hoax right now
Wontonimo: the 1st is climate deniers who believe that it's a hoax
Wontonimo: science buddy, science
Wontonimo: i know science is not a popular thing in the US, but doesn't make it not real
Westicles: science is dead. these days they find the result their funders want. popper is rolling in his grave
Wontonimo: science is being attacked in the US by the Republicans in order to rally the uneducated masses. Science is otherwise alive and well outside the US
jacek: science is math :scream:
GamingGnawer: that is a pretty clever hoax, and a good reminder to always validate user input...
Just because they say they're a delivery service or have entered a valid input, doesn't mean it's true ^^
eeeeeeerrrr: pi i am watching you
eeeeeeerrrr: i know you are reading this
eeeeeeerrrr: i am stalking your every move.
eeeeeeerrrr: you cannot escape.
eeeeeeerrrr: pi, this is it
vacuum: pi , u done
jacek: good old wednesday
PatrickMcGinnisII: Kyle Rittenhouse Wednesday
jacek: bird is a word
Schwase: can someone explain to me why avogadro's number is an SI base unit
Schwase: its just a number
Schwase: like there's 7 base units and one of them is mol
Schwase: how does that make sense
FranceIsAfraid: because it's a physical costant
FranceIsAfraid: kinda like how we use pi for measuring an angle in math
FranceIsAfraid: for radians that is
Schwase: but as an SI base unit?
FranceIsAfraid: I don't see a reason not to
Schwase: there are 7 base units
FranceIsAfraid: yeah
FranceIsAfraid: and?
Schwase: length - meter
time - second
mass - kg
etc.
Schwase: ??? - mole
Westicles: metric units were invented by the french to make wine glasses bigger
Schwase: would it just be "a unit of counting"
FranceIsAfraid: the number of carbon 12 atoms in a gram of carbon
FranceIsAfraid: that's the scientific definition
Schwase: pi - the ratio of the area of a square with side length 1 and a circle with radius 1
Schwase: that doesnt make pi an si unit
FranceIsAfraid: I guess a mol is just that more frequently used
Schwase: like does there need to be "a unit of counting" in the SI base units?
FranceIsAfraid: in the medical field it's all mol baby
Schwase: but this is "System De Internationale" not just any unit of measurement gets in :(
FranceIsAfraid: yes, and the fact that mol is in it and pi isn't demonstrates the constraints of popularity and usefulness of the ones that do get in
Schwase: the meter is in, that means no other units of length measurements get in, my point is, 1 mole doesnt measure something, its a unitless value, a conversion rate.
FranceIsAfraid: a mol is a unit
Schwase: but 1 mole has the same units as 1 atom
Schwase: why not make the unit "1 thign"
Schwase: *thing
FranceIsAfraid: because when working with atoms, you get incredibly big numbers very quickly
FranceIsAfraid: so you just make that big number a unit to avoid that problem
Schwase: i understand the need for the mole, its clearly a very significant value
Schwase: the same could be said about examining distances in space, meters is a ridiculous unit, so we use light years instead
Schwase: but 1 light year is still not an SI unit of measure
Schwase: because 1 meter is the SI unit of length
FranceIsAfraid: because it's not as popular or useful
Schwase: but "1 thing" is more popular than "1 mole"
Schwase: like, 1 mole is a measure of 6.02E23 things
FranceIsAfraid: saying one thing is not a very precise, and therefore, not very scientific way of describing something
Schwase: "1 units"
Schwase: its ambiguous because it is a counting unit
FranceIsAfraid: calling a unit of measurement "unit" is very confusing to say the least
Schwase: but its the same whether you count atoms, cows, or stars
Astrobytes: Schwase: are you studying chemistry?
Schwase: physics
Westicles: heh heh. weed legalized in NY last month might be a factor here
Schwase: not 21 for a few months
Astrobytes: Don't worry about mols then. Makes more sense in chem that physics.
Astrobytes: *than
Schwase: i mean i took chemistry twice and i understand and appreciate it and mols is definitely applicable in physics in plenty of circustamces
FranceIsAfraid: so I don't see a problem here
Scarfield: how many mols in a mole
FranceIsAfraid: 1
Schwase: 1 mol = 1 mole
Schwase: its just an abbreviation
ChwanPang: 97x0 47x0 96x0 67x0 96x0 47x0 16x0 c6x0 56x0 25x0 02x0 66x0 f6x0 02x0 97x0 27x0 f6x0 56x0 86x0 45x0
ChwanPang: what kind of code is this?
FranceIsAfraid: hex?
Schwase: ye
Schwase: f6x0
Schwase: hex
struct: reversed hex
ChwanPang: nan its not
ChwanPang: oh reversed hex alright
FranceIsAfraid: whenever I see a mess I just automatically assume it's hex
Schwase: would change the SI unit of measure of "amount of substance" from 1 mole to 1 unit or 1 count of substance change anything other than its value? Would it still achieve the same role as an SI unit?
Schwase: *changing
FranceIsAfraid: well yeah, of course it would. Just like how in science we just chose the greek alphabet because it's neat. whatever's more convenient
FranceIsAfraid: and it just so happened to be that a mol is convenient
Westicles: changing it would mean burning all the periodic tables and raising world temperature by 8 degrees
Schwase: degree what :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Schwase: lol
Schwase: i can get behind that explanation France
FranceIsAfraid: cool cool
Scarfield: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_(unit)#Criticism
FranceIsAfraid: amazing
Scarfield: you are not the first to question it as a si unit, but when i asked for how many mols in a mole, i meant mole the animal
Schwase: yeah i found a few posts about it when i was looking for more answers
Astrobytes: valid criticisms, but still useful in an awful lot of calcs
Orlans: 0.0?
Schwase: i basically found this:
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/320892/what-are-the-reasons-for-making-the-mole-a-base-si-unit
Astrobytes: molefield
Scarfield: xD
Scarfield: joke was too dumb for the level of chat, i had to "explain" it
Schwase: ^ that means it was a funny joke
FranceIsAfraid: aside from physics, the thing that drives me insane are complex numbers
Schwase: as someone who is consistently explaining jokes, i approve
Astrobytes: mols of what in a mole tho', is the real question
Schwase: mols of mole
Scarfield: xD
Schwase: that would be 1.660539e-24 mols of mole in 1 mole, of course
Astrobytes: heh
Astrobytes: anyway, gotta run, cya later
Scarfield: cya
Schwase: :wave:
FranceIsAfraid: a neat way of getting the mol in a mole would be dividing the mass of the mole by the sum of the molar mass of all the individual molecules composing it
Schwase: molecules or atoms?
FranceIsAfraid: same thing
FranceIsAfraid: as in, the molar mass of a molecule is the sum of the molar mass of the atoms
Schwase: ok
FranceIsAfraid: so just save an extra step and say molecules
Schwase: but moles of what
Schwase: moles of molecules
Schwase: or atoms
Schwase: not the same thing
FranceIsAfraid: I know it's not the same thing
FranceIsAfraid: it's just you're using the same method over and over again
Scarfield: moles of mole as established, obviously
FranceIsAfraid: to get the over-all molar mass
Schwase: the molar mass of a mole would be 6.02e23 times the mass of 1 mole
Schwase: 1 mole of mole is 6.02e23 moles
Schwase: i think we may have played this out for long enough now lol
Scarfield: when i see "molar mass" i think of teeth
FranceIsAfraid: disgusting
Scarfield: i clearly am not a chemist
FranceIsAfraid: mathematician ?
Schwase: both molars and mole have similar etymology
Schwase: relating to earth one coming from "millstone" and the other coming from "earth thrower"
Schwase: one greek (molars) and one germanic (mol.)
Schwase: latin not greek sorry
Scarfield: should i be flattered or mad that you are guessing mathematician? :p
Scarfield: but no, mechanical engineer
Schwase: clearly an intellectual :nerd:
Scarfield: probably not if you asked a mathematician
Schwase: i go to a very engineering heavy school, im used to having mostly engineering and computer science majors in my classes
FranceIsAfraid: I'm still in first year of highschool so I'm still wondering what to do
Schwase: 9th or 10th grade? (or do you use a different numbering system than that?)
FranceIsAfraid: 11th
Schwase: do you go through 12th?
FranceIsAfraid: you know what a baccalaureate is ?
Schwase: the exam or the degree?
FranceIsAfraid: okay
FranceIsAfraid: so
FranceIsAfraid: there's kindergarten
FranceIsAfraid: then it's 6 years primary school
Schwase: yes
FranceIsAfraid: then 3 years middle school
FranceIsAfraid: then 2 years highschool
Schwase: oh interesting
Schwase: i had the same thing except 3 years of high school
Schwase: K-6, 7-9, 10-12
Em.707: Thank you France
FranceIsAfraid: germany?
FranceIsAfraid: why you thanking me?
Schwase: LMAOO
FranceIsAfraid: hm?
Em.707: clears up everything for me, my third eye has opened
FranceIsAfraid: huh?
Em.707: But what is Germany?
FranceIsAfraid: I heard in germany they do 13 grades
Em.707: my classmate wants to know
Schwase: lol the germany line was :ok_hand: :ok_hand:
Schwase: ohhh
FranceIsAfraid: what?
Schwase: i thought you were replying to "thank you france" with "germany?"
FranceIsAfraid: oh
FranceIsAfraid: huh
jacek: oh my
Em.707: I mean I also could be
FranceIsAfraid: I'm pretty slow
Scarfield: xD
Schwase: but no, im american
FranceIsAfraid: didn't even cross my mind
Em.707: awwww
Orlans: yo no entender español!!
Em.707: bonjour
FranceIsAfraid: yes hello
Schwase: no habla englais
Orlans: un placeru
Orlans: XD
Orlans: nuu U.u
Schwase: France, are you French?
Schwase: or somewhere else?
FranceIsAfraid: no but can speak it fluently
FranceIsAfraid: it's just an old ongoing inside joke with my buddies
Orlans: .-. not
Schwase: makes sense
Em.707: I learned a bit of French but not alot
FranceIsAfraid: what makes sens O' enlightened being?
Pingu430: I suck at coding guys
Aladdin89: hi guys
Schwase: try coding girls instead then pingu
Schwase: the username makes sense
Schwase: + your explanation/story
FranceIsAfraid: bro I just learned what a boolean is
Schwase: sounds scary :o
Schwase: get it
Schwase: cause it starts with BOO
FranceIsAfraid: yeah
FranceIsAfraid: also, I'd like to mention that my actually has nothing to do with the country
Schwase: oh ok. your name is why i asked "France, are you French"
FranceIsAfraid: it was just a happy accident with a number generator and one too many discord calls
Schwase: so i figured you were responding to that but i see where the discontinuity was
hamburjesus: chese
JJWooster: perl or ruby?
JJWooster: man I feel like imma catch a bullet for asking that one
Roberts98: php
JJWooster: man what the hell
JJWooster: I'd rather learn cryptic archaic bullshit from the 80's than learn php
Shoyo_Hinata158: hello
Wontonimo: hello
Shoyo_Hinata158: hi
Wontonimo: enter this multi Shoyo_Hinata158 and make me proud https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/coders-strike-back
Shoyo_Hinata158: what's this
Wontonimo: mad pod racing, your bot vs everyone elses
Wontonimo: the other pods (other than the bosses) are other peoples code
Shoyo_Hinata158: oh what do i do though
Wontonimo: what programming language do yo uknow?
Shoyo_Hinata158: Bash
Wontonimo: yikes
Wontonimo: nvm
Shoyo_Hinata158: i've always used it
Wontonimo: try this instead https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/the-descent
Shoyo_Hinata158: just never on this website
Shoyo_Hinata158: ok
Wontonimo: tell me how hard it is for you
Shoyo_Hinata158: ok
Shoyo_Hinata158: it's a bit difficult ngl but in the end it's easy just one sec ok
NijeByteNo: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/JUg-fmx-KDB-Mz8
Codeab: eh
Codeab: wat this NijeByteNo
Codeab: lol okey
Shoyo_Hinata158: i beat it!!!
Wontonimo: the descent?
Thorcode: nice
Wontonimo: here is another https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/power-of-thor-episode-1
Wontonimo: speaking of thor ... hi Thorcode !
Thorcode: hi
Shoyo_Hinata158: im doig tic tac toe i am almost finished
Thorcode: in that game I just make my bot tic randomly
Shoyo_Hinata158: i keep winning
kkweon: how do i rejoin the chat that i just closed
Thorcode: how can I take rid of the last space in this line
Thorcode: print(i, end=" ")
Mundgus: print(i, end="")
Thorcode: no I need space in this 1 2 3 without " "
Thorcode: at last
Mundgus: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/69afe966-74e9-4610-b1c2-8eea4a52c582
Mundgus: or
Thorcode: rstrip()?
BartholomewIII: " ".join([1,2,3])
Mundgus: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/61478b8f-0068-4e2b-ba70-14799090e3ad
BartholomewIII: also python print has sep=" " and end="\n"
Shoyo_Hinata158: hello
Theolol: I have no idea what im doing
Shoyo_Hinata158: do you need help
Mundgus: How can I help you Theolol?
Shoyo_Hinata158: i guess nothing
Thorcode: yep
Shoyo_Hinata158: but i need help can you send me a easy coding game bc this one is hard
Thorcode: ?
Thorcode: what ez
Shoyo_Hinata158: nvm
Thorcode: oh You want a platform like codingame but easier?
Shoyo_Hinata158: yea
Thorcode: I think I don't have one
Shoyo_Hinata158: oh ok
programX: no contest
Thorcode: yep
Thorcode: no contest at this time
programX: i am newbie
Thorcode: ok
Daxlo: It would be nice to have easier ones for like learning a new Language.
Daxlo: I think their thing is to attract the elite coders to then attract employers. If they are king of the noobs, not so much revenue. :-)
Thorcode: ?
Thorcode: what do you mean Daxlo
JayDiamond: Daxlo kind of has a point. I checked out this website because of a youtube short, and I saw they had Bash as an option so I got super excited because I've been meaning to learn bash. But it kinda just throws you in there. You're expected to know the syntax before you start on this site.
JayDiamond: But this site is pretty fun
Thorcode: yep
Thorcode: we must know the basic before play codingame
Thorcode: so bored
Thorcode: the puzzle in here pretty hard
BartholomewIII: Which puzzle
Thorcode: power of thor ep 2
BartholomewIII: hmm, I'll take a swing at it
Thorcode: do you guy have any hard puzzle in here that is ez
BartholomewIII: lol
BartholomewIII: isn't that a contradiction in terms?
Thorcode: yep
BartholomewIII: nice
pyprogammer: when are these challenges conducted?
