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derjack: :upside_down:

Thorcode: hi

Default avatar.png Steven_YIP: :

ESMAKING: hi my name is ESMAKING

AmmarSalmi: Im struggling with number of descendants thing. Is there a hint?

Thorcode: which puzzle?

DustinWestGlow: AmmarSalmi hello :) which puzzle?

AmmarSalmi: The latest contest

AmmarSalmi: The graves and the family tree things

DustinWestGlow: Thorcode

AmmarSalmi: Fall challenge 2021

AmmarSalmi: The crossbow owner has a hint of having 48 descendant

Thorcode: DustinWestGlow why you ping me?

AmmarSalmi: So he's males and he has 48 descens

DustinWestGlow: If you could help him with Fall challenge 2021

AmmarSalmi: But my algo to calc the descendants of each person on nodes

Thorcode: I haven't try that

AmmarSalmi: seems way slower than it should be

KiwiTae: just dfs the descendant its like 2 3 lines

KiwiTae: the tree is small too shouldnt take long

AmmarSalmi: Ok. I'm just useless when it comes to algos. I haven't studied much algos in my life. So I'm using recursion and it's taking forever. I'll try to share my code. If you can point out where I went wrong. Because I'm not even able to debug it because it's too slow.

AmmarSalmi: not printing anything

AmmarSalmi: https://pastebin.com/giRnPQ0P

DustinWestGlow: Ammar, that is very clean code, it's probably edited for proper counting ( which can be difficult ). Good job so far.

DustinWestGlow: I'm not familiar with the challenge though. Thor or Kiwi?

Thorcode: I haven't try that

Thorcode: sorry

DustinWestGlow: Ammar, let me look

Uljahn: guess you can substitute getById(id) with a dictionary id:node

Uljahn: if ids are unique ofc

DustinWestGlow: Ammar, id is a built in python function, can you use another word? Or not?

AmmarSalmi: Oh right. But up untill I got to the descendants thing it caused no problems

DustinWestGlow: Okay then, so I'm not far enough to see the whole problem. Maybe you can explain what your code is solving. But, why do you have 'descendants' and 'childIds'? Are not those the same things? A descendant is a child, right?

AmmarSalmi: no a child is your own child, descendant can be the grandson of your grandson.

AmmarSalmi: Anyone with a family tree that ends up to you is one of your descendants

AmmarSalmi: So each node has id and childIds. So you take each id in childIds list and dig up their own childIds. And keep going deeper.

AmmarSalmi: Think of it like website crawling. A link to a page with links. etc...

DustinWestGlow: Okay, it's crawling. And the challenge fills most of the info like node structure as you solve it. And it has a 90minute time limit?

AmmarSalmi: No time limit really. It's been days and I'm still solving it.

DustinWestGlow: on CodingEscape? Mine has a time limit and I had to pass a practice room

DustinWestGlow: We're talking about the team escape room stuff? I signed up but it's a lot of problems before we get as far as you, right?

AmmarSalmi: Yes.

AmmarSalmi: Fall challenge

AmmarSalmi: 2021

DustinWestGlow: ok

AmmarSalmi: The most recent one

DustinWestGlow: Hey man, I have to log off. I believe you can do it. Remember counting indexes, formatting output, and fixing output is always a time consumer. I will be gone before I can solve or help out.

derjack: oO

AmmarSalmi: Thanks for everything

DustinWestGlow: Yw

AmmarSalmi: I need to study algorithme. It will make me a better coder.

DustinWestGlow: Have you picked up the Algorithms book? https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Algorithms-3rd-MIT-Press/dp/0262033844

AmmarSalmi: Nice. I will give it a look. Right now I'm reading learning python by Mark Lutz from O'reilly

AmmarSalmi: I want to solidify my understanding of the basics

AmmarSalmi: Thanks for the recommendation

DustinWestGlow: ofc what are you building? If I may ask? or is it secret

derjack: algorithms eh\

DustinWestGlow: yes, why? der, don't you know the algorithms book is very popular, eh

Uljahn: maybe you should start with data structures first

DustinWestGlow: upvote

Uljahn: and big-O notation for complexity

derjack: i dont want math. i want to make computers think

Uljahn: but even computers might be inefficient and slow in data handling when being programmed the wrong way

DustinWestGlow: but if he wants it that way bad enough, he'll make it look like a good alternative

Uljahn: Automaton2000: are you faster than a human?

Automaton2000: i think we have the same issue

DustinWestGlow: what happens when I get stuck drawing out a program but the next step to take in coding it gets farther and farther away

DustinWestGlow: on aneo

Default avatar.png Ilyas82794: hey guys

Default avatar.png Ilyas82794: remember me

Default avatar.png ropi336: yeah

Uljahn: Automaton2000: how to be more popular on CG?

Automaton2000: do you use your own ide

Jerrasterix: Automaton2000, I have a question, did you really call eulerschezahl as noob ?

Automaton2000: and what if i want to reach legend league

Jerrasterix: Automaton2000, I have a question, did you really call eulerschezahl as noob ?

Automaton2000: i can't find it in the cloud

Jerrasterix: It seems the chat is bugged :confused:

nyloc: Is the red "1" on the ACTIVITIES menu entry always there, it always triggers my OCD to mark something as read...

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: Is it possible to join only certain kinds of clashes? e.g. only do fastest mode or not do reverse etc.


ESMAKING: No that is not possible my friend

ESMAKING: :)

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: ok,thanks! I guess I'll need to learn a more compact language then, c++ is not great for shortest code (at least not when I'm writing it :P )

Default avatar.png Bartos: Hello guys, i need help i don't undersatnd how to counter this problem : "Timeout: your program did not provide an input in due time." on the episode Shadows of the Knight - Episode 1

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: the games define a response time before which your program needs to give an output

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: chances are your program gets stuck in some infinite loop (or truly massive computation) and doesn't give an output in time

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: or simply that you've failed to make an output statement

Default avatar.png Bartos: on the standard output i have my "answer" that why i don't undersatnd

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: do you get the same "Timeout" if you move that output to the top of your program?

Default avatar.png Bartos: yes

Default avatar.png Bartos: Sortie d'erreur : http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/4d502e2e-de8b-4108-b4c5-6423072a06ba

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: oh...

Default avatar.png Bartos: it's in french that show you my fprintf stderr output then my standard output and then the informations

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: hmm, so it looks like your program outputs once

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: but pherhaps then get's stuck,

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: you need to output at the end of the "while (1)" block

Default avatar.png Bartos: it's what i did normally

Default avatar.png Bartos: i will try soemthing

Default avatar.png Bartos: maybe i have don't understand very well

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: i assume you get the error meeage on turn 2/2

Default avatar.png Bartos: yes totally, i give the next position of batman do i have to put his deplacement like a direction and not a next position ??

Default avatar.png Bartos: can i send you my code ??

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: yeah sure

Default avatar.png PRDaylyanov: I love coc

Default avatar.png Bartos: i modify him a bit and i send you take 2 3 mlin

Default avatar.png Bartos: ok i don't understand i have new output ...

Default avatar.png Bartos: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/6a1953b8-1c4d-4f9c-a3dd-e78747f7175e

Default avatar.png Bartos: thx for your help i appreciate

Default avatar.png Bartos: i don't understand why now i have 42 43 and not 3 4 cuz at the frist bomb_dir is DR

Default avatar.png MoistySox: fr fr

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: are you missing a newline?

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: so you give output but the game doesn't catch it?

Jerrasterix: Bartos can you share a replay

Default avatar.png Bartos: Oh it seems to be that the new line ...

Default avatar.png Bartos: thx

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: great! but a nasty little bug

Default avatar.png Bartos: yeah :'( have nice day ! :D

andresporras: I want to report a bug, I got 100% percent of the tests correct but after submit I got 0%

Default avatar.png GamingGnawer: u2!

Default avatar.png Bartos: after submit the test are not the same

andresporras: but from 100% to 0%?? really?? I might understand 75, 50... but 0?

Jerrasterix: which puzzle ??

andresporras: nevermind, I have look other other answers and I get why it happened

derjack: oO

Jerrasterix: can someone help me, How to get into top 1000 in Clash of code ??

Jerrasterix: i am just stuck in 1200s

derjack: clash more. spam clash links here. there are so many ways to do that ~

Default avatar.png jgizquierdo: this may be a really silly question, but I'm not understanding the formatting of the questions when the inputs are used. There is a for loop on each problem that stores n values. Am I supposed to write my code in that for loop or just store those values in a list?

Uljahn: you can modify the default code as you see appropriate, just keep the inputs order intact

Default avatar.png jgizquierdo: ah okay! I didn't know if I was supposed to modify it or not

Default avatar.png nrauto: Hi

Notgoodatcoding5: Hi

Notgoodatcoding5: @nrauto How are you?

Default avatar.png Chazzy: Where can i go to learn JavaScript here?

VizGhar: You want learn basics here

VizGhar: *won't

zeedev: hi from where r u guys

linjoehan: what time dose this event thing end?

Default avatar.png Kepe55: Do you guys use scratch paper when solving problems?

Syzer3: @Kepe55 when the problem is hard

Syzer3: how about you ?

Default avatar.png Kepe55: I use a whiteboard

Syzer3: I tihnk I'm gonna beat the Boss 3

Default avatar.png Kepe55: I tried to only use comments but that's a bad idea, I cant draw diagrams and stuff

Syzer3: I think I'm gonna organize for myself

Syzer3: Think MrFriser will also beat the Boss 3

jacek: boss 3?

Syzer3: Yeah.. just starting

Syzer3: got to bronze league

jacek: nice

jacek: im assuming its pod racing

Syzer3: how many boost there are always only one ?

Syzer3: yeah

jacek: yes

Syzer3: now need to kill boss 4

Syzer3: how about you ?

jacek: i havent touched this game for long time. im in the end of legend league

jacek: you get 2 pods in gold

Westicles: when the strike over?

jacek: strike?

Westicles: mods

Westicles: oh, I guess now

Westicles: we need euler to get back and update his NS python script

jacek: whats wrong with it

Westicles: it broke with the api change

jacek: nyoro~n

darkhorse64: It's a mod strike not a dev strike. However, I remember they say they will reconnect when the "contest" is over

jacek: isnt it essentially over? whats the point of playing it now

jacek: (or ever)

darkhorse64: tbh, I played it with my family out of any competing spirit and it was quite fun in this context. But, ofc, I sorely miss a real programming contest

Stilgart: jacek: what was the point of playing day1 when CG's servers were out of reach

Stilgart: ?

jacek: meow

jacek: nanodesu!

Default avatar.png ddddrerf: im not really good at coding

jacek: oO

Default avatar.png ddddrerf: i started doing this 2 weeks ago

Essenti: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/lo2-v46-ipr-lb1/in-game

jacek: Oo

MACKEYTH: What language(s) are you learning, ddddrerf?

Essenti: Need help :(

Essenti: on escaperoom

Beretta_Vexee: from help import need !

Default avatar.png DFAF: 我在学pon

Default avatar.png DFAF: 对

Default avatar.png DFAF: pon

MACKEYTH: Does CodingEscape include a video chat, or do you need to use another app for communication with your team?

DigitalOsmosis: how can you get debug output?

jacek: print to stderr

MACKEYTH: And some puzzles with graphics have debug playback mode

Wontonimo: who is St. Derr and why is he the saint of error logging ?

Wontonimo: Why was the analog oscilloscope not allowed in the fundamentalist Christian church? Because it was non-binary

jacek: :door:

Wontonimo: The oldest computer can be traced back to Adam and Eve. It was an apple but with extremely limited memory. Just 1 byte. And then everything crashed.

Wontonimo: What did Stephen Hawking say when his computer crashed?

Wontonimo: Nothing :drum:

Wontonimo: okay, i think we need a bot that says random computer jokes when there is a lull in conversation for too long

jacek: what about Automaton2000

Automaton2000: nothing to do with the fact that it is really easy

Wontonimo: interesting. almost makes sense given the subject

jacek: maybe it just learns the gravity assistance https://streamable.com/jvj37n

TimothyAlexisVass: Imagine a 2d array arranged as a spiral.

TimothyAlexisVass: of size n*n

TimothyAlexisVass: n=3:

TimothyAlexisVass: 9 8 7 6 1 2 5 4 3

TimothyAlexisVass: input: integer n

TimothyAlexisVass: output: sum of diagonals

TimothyAlexisVass: some guy did it in ruby with 35 characters without sharing code...

I have no idea how? :D

TimothyAlexisVass: n got up to a lot.. I don't remember the constraints but the last test, sum was like 4324123532

TimothyAlexisVass: Is there a mathematical trick to it?

jacek: math :unamused:

jacek: this is it? https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/5381b61d2ef1df5e8143d4d58b8feb439458

Westicles: https://oeis.org/A059924

ipsissimus: just finished an interview with Ford. :O

ipsissimus: had 3 people in the interview. dont know if thats a good thing or a bad thing

ipsissimus: :thinking:

waschak: what are u talking about

ipsissimus: i had an interview with Ford. im not sure i can say it any simpler lol

ipsissimus: using CoC to practice the skillz

waschak: should be easy for u to get the job then

waschak: since u practise on COC


ipsissimus: lol, getting those bad habits

waschak: i see

waschak: i know a friend who got the job even if he wasn't that good.

ipsissimus: thats good news for me lol, i want the job

waschak: Ford isn't that selective , you just have to know the basics

waschak: if you are sure that you did well , then congrats for u , that's what they want

ipsissimus: but in the CV space for assisted driving

ipsissimus: i have exp in CV so i really hope it went well

ipsissimus: :O

waschak: they will care for sure , even if you lie , my friend lied about the experience , he didn't even have 8 months of experience , but he applied for senior software engineer and he got the job lol

waschak: in his cv , he said that he has 5 years of experience ...

ipsissimus: well i didnt lie, but they had a software dev, a software lead, and a manager in the interview

ipsissimus: sweating bullets for these ambiguous questions they asking

waschak: like?

ipsissimus: What tools do you use in the software development landscape? and in what capacity

ipsissimus: like.. am i supposed to say git and jenkins?

ipsissimus: are they asking something else? idk

waschak: they want to see you how familiar are you with software tools

waschak: that's common thing

ipsissimus: yeah im just saying, the ambiguity of the questions means i have no idea if my answers were what they were looking for

ipsissimus: i couldve said we used proprietary tools at my last job and thats true, but would say nothing of my competence

waschak: they want to see only if you are familiar with the tools that are required for the position

waschak: so for example if they want you to work with intellij in job description , you have to mention that

ipsissimus: yeah its mainly python and automation

ipsissimus: so thats what i went with

jacek: welp https://devhumor.com/content/uploads/images/October2015/nosql.jpeg

ipsissimus: ye lmao

waschak: Exactly , even if you know for example java or C++ , you don't have to mention it because they will not care

ipsissimus: they asked and i was like, well i have experience with Google non relational datapools

waschak: well done

waschak: never say no , always try to change the subject related to what they are asking

ipsissimus: yeah i think i did pretty good, i also asked them questions to eat in to the interview time

ipsissimus: who knows if the next question is one i cant answer

waschak: if they ask me if i know mysql , i will go like , yeah i know the sql langage and i got the opportunity to work with it but i know mostly ms sql or oracle ..

waschak: and i will expand my answer

waschak: then for sure if they ask me about oracle or something , thats perfect for me because i know the answer , if not then its good too

waschak: the idea is not getting caught lying

ipsissimus: ye u right

ipsissimus: can anyone shorten this code?

ipsissimus: t=int(input().replace(':',)) q=int(input().replace(':',)) print('EARLY'if t>q else'DELAYED'if t<q else'ON TIME')

ipsissimus: the guy who got 1st place on my question just did it in one line with some voodoo

ipsissimus: like i dont even want to post what his solution was, itll probably look like spam lmao

jacek: is this some fixed format?

jacek: then no need to convert to int, and you can compare strings directly :?

ipsissimus: yeah they are times written with : separators

ipsissimus: hh:mm:ss

jacek: oO

ipsissimus: hh: m m : ss

aandrukhovich: hi) you dont need to replace : symbol, it doesnt affect final comparation

aandrukhovich: task is just compare 2 string

ipsissimus: aadrukhovich what is your solution mang

aandrukhovich: my raw code was ```i=input a,b=i(),i() i('ON TIME'*(a==b)+'EARLY'*(a>b)+(a<b)*'DELAYED')```

aandrukhovich: my raw code was i=input a,b=i(),i() i('ON TIME'*(a==b)+'EARLY'*(a>b)+(a<b)*'DELAYED')

ipsissimus: and the code you shared was: exec(bytes('㵩湩異ੴⱡ㵢⡩Ⱙ⡩਩⡩伧⁎䥔䕍⨧愨㴽⥢✫䅅䱒❙⠪㹡⥢⠫㱡⥢✪䕄䅌䕙❄਩', 'u16')[2:])

aandrukhovich: then i applied some magic, it's now a new magic here)

ipsissimus: which idk what the hell it is

ipsissimus: cmon man lmao

ipsissimus: and you share it to meme on me

Default avatar.png TAlshalby: what is CoC?

ipsissimus: clash of code

jacek: well, utf16 character which is 2 bytes count as 1 character

aandrukhovich: yep

Default avatar.png TAlshalby: how do you practice for a job with CoC?

jacek: he applied for professional coc solver

ipsissimus: i spam the puzzles and learn something new all the time

ipsissimus: i learned how to use map() and how to unpack lists with *

ipsissimus: all here in the solutions other people share

ipsissimus: i learned that print() has end and sep arguments that help for formatting

aandrukhovich: https://www.codingame.com/blog/code-golf-python/ this can help you a little bit with some python magic in shortest mode)

ipsissimus: thanks, its not that i want to make the shortest code, its just that its kinda disturbing that i dont even know what it would do if you told me to figure it out lol

ipsissimus: dang my guy, that link has some hacks

Majeck: Hello

Majeck: Can somebody send me the herokuapp for finding clashes?

AstroHydes: https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/

Majeck: Thanks!

Stephen10121: does anyone have problems with the group chat disappearing?

Thorcode: ?

Stephen10121: like in the clashes when somebody types something, the chat disappears.

Thorcode: I duno

Default avatar.png ._.YO._.: HELLO WORLD!!!

Jerrasterix: sorry, The WORLD blocked programmers for spamming its chat

Wontonimo: noone may utter the W word here, or say hello to it. Shame! Heathens!

Stephen10121: what about wORLD

Wontonimo: oh, that's fine SpongeBob

Thorcode: I think I will improve my clash ranks :D

Jerrasterix: hello Wontonimo !! still online

Jerrasterix: Blaise said that once you have crossed 500 clashes, you can see answers for clash, how can we see it ??

Thorcode: wow

Thorcode: really

Jerrasterix: well first of all, is it true :confused:

Jerrasterix: idk Thorcode

Thorcode: ask mod

Thorcode: the easiet

Jerrasterix: no mods online

Thorcode: :((

Thorcode: ask a guy has legend achivement in clash

Thorcode: hey AlecMan are you there?

Jerrasterix: he isn't in world chat

AlecMan: uhm

AlecMan: what's up?

Jerrasterix: ohhhh....

Thorcode: that real?

Jerrasterix: Blaise said that once you have crossed 500 clashes, you can see answers for clash, how can we see it ??


Thorcode: Blaise said that once you have crossed 500 clashes, you can see answers for clash, how can we see it ?? this

Jerrasterix: this one

AlecMan: hmmm

Thorcode: if yes it is not fairi

AlecMan: I've never looked into it

Thorcode: oh it is real?

AlecMan: I'm not sure :/

AlecMan: I've never heard of it

Thorcode: you can figure out

Jerrasterix: then Blaise trolled that guy ig

Thorcode: cuz you got that achivment

AlecMan: yeah I don't see the option anywhere

Thorcode: wow in my clash alec solved like hack

Thorcode: how

Thorcode: for i in range(l):n=int(input());x=n*5 if n%2==0 else n*3;a.append(x)

Thorcode: what wrong uiwth my code????????????????????

Thorcode: I can't sum :((((

Thorcode: oh I'm stupid