htmlhigh5: How many people does it take for there to be more than just a "wood" league in a bot programming game?
jacek: on community games, forever :(
Coddertech: https://escape.codingame.com/events/t4z-VTs-KDG-mhg/registration?join=TC8-VlD-3P0-B9U
Coddertech: join and Win
Coddertech: :thumbsup:
Coddertech: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2034253ffba7b32becdaa7de6bbe65b546f9781
Coddertech: 1v1 join fast
Coddertech: clash of code
Coddertech: :runner:
aangairbender: Coddertech there is separate channel for clash invites
Coddertech: where
Uljahn: #clash
derjack: #trash
Coddertech: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/i1W-Mxr-g2F-bSB
Coddertech: #escape
aangairbender: is it true?
(A & B) >> C == (A >> C) & (B >> C)
aangairbender: there was B instead of smile
aangairbender: B with closing brace
Thorcode: ?
Thorcode: yep that true
Sebastogne: xx
Mortis_666: .
Thorcode: how can I replace every same character in CG?
TheBlueBias: There's no identical character in CG
Thorcode: I saw a guy do that
TheBlueBias: 'C' and 'G' are different characters...
Uljahn: you mean he used magic or some undocumented features?
Thorcode: yep
Thorcode: like I have c in everyline of my code then he can change every c to b
Thorcode: and CG is codingame
TheBlueBias: There's no identical chars in codingame either...
Thorcode: like I have two line of "c" and I want to change it to b
Thorcode: to two line of b
TheBlueBias: ctrl+f
Uljahn: crtl+h
Thorcode: thanks alot
Thorcode: I was trying to shorten my code in codegolf
21stCenturyPeon: Is "c" a variable name? Because F2 works for refactoring for me
ESMAKING: Hello my dream is to be best coder in world and be hired at google and then everyone will finaly like me
mrmnrd: Not the best path to be liked by evryone
ESMAKING: yes @mrmnrd because no one likes me now but if i get hired at google everyone likes me cus google awesome
mrmnrd: just be nice with people, i belive they'll like you. Google is awesome, but not so nice anymore
mrmnrd: but anyway, i wish you get a great coder
mrmnrd: (become)
Overbed: where to learn python 3 free?
CrazyCoder12: Sololearn
ChutOuLeTcheTche: ESMAKING how ald are you my fryend?
Wontonimo: [SYSTEM MESSAGE] post all numbers in binary
nyloc: Is it possible to show me all my completed puzzelös somehow?
Wontonimo: go to the puzzle section then scroll to the bottom https://www.codingame.com/training
Wontonimo: you have to enter each difficulty, like easy / medium / etc https://www.codingame.com/training/easy
nyloc: Ah, thanks found it
Wontonimo: nyloc has unlocked the achievement [ASK QUESTION]
Wontonimo: nyloc has unlocked the achievement [NAVIGATE SITE]
Wontonimo: hey, you may also be interested in the multi bot battles https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming
Wontonimo: personally i had a lot of fun with Tron (which has been renamed to Line Racing) https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/tron-battle
nyloc: Thanks, I will have a look, sound interesting.
Wontonimo: let me know if you'd like some help getting started
TimothyAlexisVass: a = [1,2,3,4,3,4,3,4]
a.index(3) = 2
Is it possible to get index of the last occurence instead?
whatevericando4you: a.index[3] would be 4
CHRONORMU: hello world
ChutOuLeTcheTche: g
ChutOuLeTcheTche: g
ChutOuLeTcheTche: g
Wontonimo: if you want the last item TimothyAlexisVass you can use
Wontonimo: a[-1]
Wontonimo: if you want to know the number of elements
Wontonimo: len(a)
Wontonimo: the last element is therefore
Wontonimo: len(a) -1
Wontonimo: if you want to iterate over all a and also want an index you can do
Wontonimo: for index,value in enumerate(a):
pihack: @Exyos33
pihack: Exyos33
ChutOuLeTcheTche: actually, Timothy, if you want to take the substract of the blyat, you have to multiply the variable by the power of blyat, then divide the shit.
ChutOuLeTcheTche: like this:
ChutOuLeTcheTche: (var a :let B => () b.l.y.a.t
Wontonimo: i think it is safe to say we all just lost a little respect for you ChutOuLeTcheTche :P
jzen: TimothyAlexisVass you could do this it like this: len(a) - a[::-1].index(3) - 1
jzen: s/this it/it
Wontonimo: +1 jzen
Uljahn: using web search and two brain cells: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/522372/finding-first-and-last-index-of-some-value-in-a-list-in-python
Marchete: incredible what a human NN can do with just two neurons...
Uljahn: when trained over 40 years :smiley:
jacek: can it do xor?
struct: thats a myth
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: whats happeing?
TheBlueBias: Oh. The come back.
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: "IT" as i was called
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: im gonna try to code again and i have i have been blocked in another coding site
TheBlueBias: What a surprise... :smirk:
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: i forgot who you were, have i bothered you before?
TheBlueBias: Not especially me.
Queuebee: Wontonimo do you know whether using A* for Line Racing should be able to solve within 100ms?
darkhorse64: You do not need A*, floodfill is enough. Even with Python, you can perform 1 in less than 1 ms
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: i only remember "HE"
Queuebee: alright
Queuebee: Fun
struct: Queuebee yeah floodfill should be fast enough
Queuebee: I never c o n s c i o u s l y used _floodfill_
Queuebee: idk how to do it
Astrobytes: Oh. You again.
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: yup,
TheBlueBias: HIM !scream:
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: its been like 4 weeks, right?
Astrobytes: should I just ban you now or will you get out of chat and shut up?
darkhorse64: visit www.redblobgames.com for pathfinding algorithms then do some exercises here
eve_va_hooves_the_king_of_losers: fine, i'll go for now
struct: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/243/
Astrobytes: Appreciated.
struct: maybe this one can help
Queuebee: oooo
darkhorse64: There's a playground from m smits on high performance BFS
Queuebee: those are great thanks
darkhorse64: redblobgames is better for noobs
Queuebee: that would be me
Astrobytes: Yeah, you get more of the "whys" and not just the "hows"
darkhorse64: It was me two years before
TheBlueBias: Banana Feta Sausages
darkhorse64: I have other acronyms in mind but they are NSFW
jacek: oO
TheBlueBias: Nachos Salad Falafel Wasabi?
Scarfield: ohoi
TheBlueBias: Scarohoi o/
Astrobytes: Hoifield
Scarfield: TheBlueBois (sounds like a boyband)
Astroibytes
Scarfield: better than oi eh
USSR_Chicken: *codes in despacito*
Astrobytes: heh heh
Astrobytes: codes in what?
jacek: havent you heard about the bird?
jacek: thats the bird is a word?
Scarfield: oh no
Astrobytes: everybody's heard about the bird
eulerscheZahl: even I know that song. thanks Family guy :rolling_eyes:
jacek: :scream:
TheBlueBias: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gc4QTqslN4
Foxwizard5556: weirdo's
Astrobytes: excuse me?
Foxwizard5556: how often are you on here
waterboy: who knows what is wrong : if(nextCheckpointDist >= 100 && i = 0){
llorente: can some here me
struct: its always false
Astrobytes: you're assigning 0 to i
DomiKo: i = 0?
waterboy: ok
jacek: yay c++ :unamused:
TheBlueBias: Oh. The 3 years old child is back.
Sarstan: I'm doing Line Racing in C# and I can't seem to use the integers of the starting and current locations outside of the for statement.
Sarstan: It says "the name 'Y0' does not exist.
darkhorse64: declare Y0 outside of the loop ?
Sarstan: Seems odd to have to mess with the starting code. Trying that doesn't seem to resolve it though.
Sarstan: Use of unassigned local values if I define them in main.
Foxwizard5556: what is happening
struct: starting code works fine for me
Sarstan: Weird. Just to get started I put in some if/else statements (if (Y0 <10 && Y1 <19) {moveDir = "DOWN";] as one example where moveDir is what I put in the writeline).
struct: are you reading all the inputs before outputing?
Astrobytes: just paste your code here Sarstan
Foxwizard5556: there are a lot of newbies
Sarstan: Reading the inputs? You can't use the variables directly?
struct: you declare the vars then read the input and store them in the variables
Astrobytes: Sarstan: Please paste your full code here. It will be easier to diagnose your issue.
Sarstan: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d67a8359-a12c-48f8-b99d-a6e42286e0cc
Astrobytes: (it will auto-pastebin)
Sarstan: I didn't realize it would do that. Thanks!
struct: the Y0 is outside the loop so its out of scope
struct: {int y};
you can access y anymore here
struct: cant*
Astrobytes: *declared inside the for loop
Astrobytes: should be declared in the while loop prior the for loop
Astrobytes: Then assigned in the for loop
Sarstan: So put something like
int Y0;
in the while loop?
Astrobytes: Wait. Actually each iteration you are reading a players position
Astrobytes: So you can leave them in there. But create some player structure/class to hold the xy coords for N players
Sarstan: I'll need to create new variables to pull those out of the for loop?
Astrobytes: Yes.
Sarstan: Haha, I just realized I read the variables wrong anyway. I thought it was showing start (X0 and Y0) and current (Y0 and Y1) when those are a different player's start.
Astrobytes: Yeah, if you only care about yours, make some variables outside and only assign when i == P
Astrobytes: It will be helpful to read them all though.
Sarstan: I was aiming to start by having it take the longest direction up or down, then turn the longest direction left or right.
Astrobytes: Yeah that's cool. Some kind of structure will help you though
Like:
Astrobytes: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a40d18b6-b10b-49f7-8495-c147cc05e275
Astrobytes: (not actual code, just to give you an idea)
jacek: who needs struct when you have classes
Astrobytes: back in your box jacek
Sarstan: That for loop is just messing with me on how to grab those values.
jacek: dont mess with for loops while coding them
Vintarel: what is the memory limit for a game (C4 for instance) ? Im messing with an array of only 200.000 Nodes :/
Astrobytes: Sarstan: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/1d9d1fe7-0e97-4ff6-b7dc-1dd2de6a3240
Astrobytes: Vintarel: 768mb
Vintarel: OK thanks
jacek: 200'000 isnt big
Astrobytes: Nodes might be
Vintarel: not at all, but it crashes when i set it to 210.000
jacek: what does node contain
Wontonimo: hey Sarstan, are you working on Tron?
Vintarel: usual stuff... Some Node* and 2 ints and some bool... When i measure with sizeof(), it says a Node does 40 bits and the array does 8 Mb
Sarstan: Yeah, it's Tron.
Wontonimo: if you have an array of Nodes, no need to have a Node*, instead you could have an int index
Vintarel: it might be a bug elsewhere
struct: hmm with 40 bytes you can store a lot more
jacek: did you try to allocate exactly 262144 nodes
Astrobytes: 40 bytes or 40 bits?
darkhorse64: Vintarel: I guess you are statically allocating, try new
Sarstan: I need to brush up on arrays. Honestly pretty lost on how to use them properly.
struct: he probably is storing it in the stack
struct: since it breaks at 8MB
Astrobytes: yeah that would figure
Wontonimo: i don't see you in the leaderboard Sarstan. Have you submitted anything?
Vintarel: I am doing a NodePool for MCTS indeed xD i invoke it doing Node NodePool[200000]
Astrobytes: Wontonimo: scroll up
Astrobytes: Sarstan: did the code I posted make sense?
Sarstan: Yeah, I'm fumbling around with it now.
Astrobytes: Cool beans.
Wontonimo: i'll dm you
Sarstan: No submission yet. I just started on it.
Sarstan: I know there's minimax and all, but I wanted to get a framework to play with.
Astrobytes: Wontonimo: thanks dude :+1:
Astrobytes: Have a :taco:
Wontonimo: thanks man
Sarstan: Thanks a lot Astro! That works great.
Astrobytes: :tada:
jacek: helpful mod oO
Astrobytes: No problem Sarstan, Wontonimo will help you out further if you need anything else :)
Vintarel: Thanks darkhorse64, i was actually creating the array inside of a class !
Vintarel: Works now as a global variable
jacek: :scream:
Micheeey: Has anyone made a codingame bot? :p
jacek: 200000 moves per turn. ultimate go?
Vintarel: No, C4.
jacek: :bomb:
jacek: checkout the forums for memes
Vintarel: Rather 600 000 nodes on the first turn
jacek: NN?
Vintarel: No No :(
Vintarel: This is way too difficult lol
struct: you can also do a book
Vintarel: yeah ! that wood be great to do :) that's my next plan, i first need my MCTS to be great
juma: I need some love https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/746276b4d029e0937f31e63b5fb9745c158b
jacek: get a cat
Wontonimo: no, cats don't love, they tolerate. get a dog
Westicles: testcases=validators is a nono
jacek: samegame?
Westicles: juma clash
Westicles: oh, it was approved anyway
Astrobytes: another one for the bin
Westicles: Meanwhile, in another contrib someone made the guy add that chickens have 2 legs since that isn't common knowledge
Astrobytes: I truly despair at times
jacek: but does a bird have 2 legs?
Astrobytes: do jaceks dream of electric trolls?
Wontonimo: how do you insert an image into a contribution statement?
jacek: imgur :?
Wontonimo: i have a url
Wontonimo: how to i get the url to show as an image and not as just plain text?
Wontonimo:  don't work
Sarstan: img tag?
struct: only works on sdk puzzles
Wontonimo: :unhappy_and_sad_face:
jacek: and games :?
struct: yes
struct: only if you use sdk
jacek: how can you not use sdk?
pythonkid: hello
struct: you can do puzzles wihout using sdk
struct: without*
jacek: oO
landyns.: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/oCh-v9g-xrX-b9n
jacek: :thinking:
landyns.: click it to do a coding escape plzz
jacek: try #escape
landyns.: ??
landyns.: Im neww to dis btw
jacek: hello new to dis btw
landyns.: and i want to learn how to code so can yall plz help me and my name is jake
Metzo1: **))
TheBlueBias: Jake neww to dis btw
Wontonimo: how can monospace be printed in classic in/out so that there isn't an extra line space between lines?
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/5f898143-7d31-4d50-97cb-f0f96cd90a15
TheBlueBias: Broken
landyns.: plz help mee :cry:
TheBlueBias: To what ?
landyns.: code
landyns.: #escape
landyns.: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/oCh-v9g-xrX-b9n
TheBlueBias: :scream:
TheBlueBias: No.
ninnghazad: is api down?
jacek: what api
Queuebee: yay i think i got floodfill working
ninnghazad: codingame direct submit per REST
ninnghazad: stopped working, not sure if my network is at fault
jacek: oh my
Wontonimo: yeah Queuebee !
Wontonimo: that's great. That really helps with Tron
Queuebee: well
Queuebee: but its not smart :') https://www.codingame.com/replay/587973811
Wontonimo: not too bad really
Queuebee: is Tron a fair game at all?
Wontonimo: is the flood fill simultaneous? That is to say, are you floodfilling your bot and the enemy at the same time?
Queuebee: Oohhhhhh No its not
Wontonimo: no, tron isn't "fair"
Queuebee: smart
Queuebee: except I have no clue how to implement it for that without losing track of who's who
jacek: whats tron?
Queuebee: nothing nothing
jacek: better call copyright police
Queuebee: did we say tron? we meant line racing
Queuebee: I think it was my cat
Queuebee: can't copyright strike a cat
Wontonimo: there is a puzzle that does this kind of flood fill ...
Wontonimo: i'll see if i can find it
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/training/medium/flood-fill-example
Wontonimo: try out our sim flood full skills here and get your code working with all these pre-made handy test cases
Wontonimo: then once you solve it, you can look at the solutions to see if there is one you like better
Wontonimo: ;)
jacek: :upside_down:
Queuebee: hmm
Wontonimo: hmmMM?
Wontonimo: s/out our sim/out your sim/
jacek: mhm
Queuebee: can a mod trigger the promotion cycle now please
Wontonimo: i only use my powers for good
**Wontonimo if only i had powers
**struct triggers promotion
Wontonimo: https://imgur.com/t/logitech/BjHl9VJ
Wontonimo: nope, still cant promote cycle :D
TheBlueBias: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4
Hyperplane: !sudo ban *Wontonimo*
Hyperplane: :innocent:
Astrobytes: Blaise: :clap:
Wontonimo: the cut scene to the kitchen is funny and random
Hyperplane: *Dies from cringe
Astrobytes: One of the best things on the internet. Skeletor: "AND HE TRIES!" cracks me up every time.
Astrobytes: *prays
Hyperplane: No 'Your A witch harry' is the funniest !!!
Astrobytes: I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Hyperplane: Or is it?
Vsause Music Intensified*
Hyperplane: Do u even know whos vsause?
Astrobytes: Nope.
Hyperplane: Do u watch youtube?
Astrobytes: Yes. For highly specific things.
Hyperplane: Watch Vsause MindField and Blow ur Mind its yt orignals
Astrobytes: I'll pass, thanks.
Hyperplane: :nerd:
Astrobytes: And?
Hyperplane: STUDY PASS GET A WIFE DIE
Astrobytes: Are you unwell in some way?
Hyperplane: NO IM JUST DEPRESSED
SarahtheSecond: isn't being depressed kinda bad
Wontonimo: it's kinda depressing actually
Hyperplane: NOPE IT IS UNDERSTANDING UR LIMITS AS EVERYONE DREAMS TO BE A ASTRANAUT BUT HOW MANY REALLY BECOME?
Wontonimo: check your keyboard. There may be some cheese stuck in the caps key
Astrobytes: ^ this
Wontonimo: we are all floating through the universe on space ship earth
JayTeeBat: :smile:
Hyperplane: DIANASOURS TOO WERE
Hyperplane: but they were cooked alive
Hyperplane: :(
Astrobytes: Dianasours
jacek: open the door get on the floor everybody walk dinosaur
Astrobytes: *dianasour
Wontonimo: Like Princess Diana Sours
Astrobytes: Tastes bitter :P
JayTeeBat: not sure what was in the cheese that got eaten and spread over the keyboard, but you guys are flying high tonight!
jacek: tonight?
Hyperplane: haha u seems its funny IM SERIOUS
Astrobytes: I'm actually playing guitar to a song on youtube, and doing this for sheer amusement
JayTeeBat: I guess 'tonight' depends on where you live :)
Hyperplane: As u grow older ur dreams die...
Astrobytes: Speak for yourself
Wontonimo: my dreams came true. i wanted to be a mad scientist when i was a child and make computers think. hey, guess what, i code ML now
Hyperplane: and then u become and average person :(
jacek: thats mean
Hyperplane: ML is not AI
jacek: he codes mars landers
Astrobytes: I wanted to be a scientist, I became one. What's your point?
Astrobytes: *became one eventually
Hyperplane: What discoveries have u made?
Wontonimo: his point is that ML is not AI, and it's true. I feel defeated and aimless now
jacek: i wanted to be homeless crack addict, yet im not one
jacek: :(
Wontonimo: you are a failure jacek
Astrobytes: jacek, you still have time brother
jacek: https://external-preview.redd.it/dRKRdjsytfI8RbSEs7mGkTa2QM-TDxiFGnZqwqlyLlc.jpg?auto=webp&s=e0715fba3ec2f2f3b542da4734528fd64ce40f4e
Astrobytes: Hyperplane: One does not need to make 'discoveries' to be successful.
Hyperplane: bruh then how will history remember you?
Hyperplane: their are millions of scientist
Astrobytes: It won't. Who cares?
Hyperplane: Degree != scientist
struct: lol
Astrobytes: If you want meaning in life: there is none.
Astrobytes: You just live.
Astrobytes: Get over it.
Hyperplane: I want survival of humans
Hyperplane: I want to explore the beauty of universe
Astrobytes: well stop moaning about everything and go and save the humans
Hyperplane: Haha thats why im depressed
Wontonimo: :wave: I'm a human
jacek: check out r/longevity to reach immortality and experience everything
Hyperplane: I cant do anything
JayTeeBat: what do we need saving from again?
Wontonimo: but don't you dare "save" me, I'm already all stocked up on crazy
struct: you are depressed because you cant save humans?
PatrickMcGinnisII: cats easier to save
Astrobytes: You're already really good at moaning
Hyperplane: Yep
JayTeeBat: :D
Hyperplane: I just say dont do
Hyperplane: that the problem
Hyperplane: :(
Wontonimo: oh, he could get a job where moaning is a key skill. What jobs are those? Like what kind of job job includes a lot of moan moan ?
Queuebee: CEO ?
Hyperplane: :joy:
struct: go be a doctor or something I guess
struct: then you can save lives
Wontonimo: i was thinking more like something where you could be independent, and get some exercise walking along the city
struct: or a fireman
Astrobytes: P**n?
struct: or a nurse
Astrobytes: They moan a lot in that
Astrobytes: Actor/actress at the least. You could play a zombie, they moan a lot.
Wontonimo: oh, you know who is also depressed and mentally unwell? Motivational Speakers. You could be one of those
Wontonimo: or a life coach
Astrobytes: Become an antivaxxer!
Wontonimo: no
Queuebee: LOL this is getting out of hand
Wontonimo: plz
Astrobytes: :P
Hyperplane: A Useless person who is motivated just becomes a motivated uneless person :thumbsup:
Wontonimo: yes, sorry. all in good fun
Astrobytes: Yeah, I'm bored, I'll just watch from now on
jacek: hi bored
Scarfield: im dad
Hyperplane: Anyone below 20 here?
JayTeeBat: 20/100 of moral?
Hyperplane: Seems like Life has hit u guys hard and you have developed a comfort zone.
JayTeeBat: how bad is it?
Scarfield: what have i joined here xD
JayTeeBat: can you take it off?
Hyperplane: IDK man u guys were the only one roasting me :fire:
Astrobytes: Scarfield: Run, run away!
Scarfield: ye
Hyperplane: LIFE IS UNFAIR AND REALITY IS OFTEN DISAPPOINTING !
**Astrobytes holds his tongue
Hyperplane: but if life is unfair for everyone isnt it fair for everybody?
JayTeeBat: this is fair unfairness
PatrickMcGinnisII: my momma told me life ain't fair, then..."mow the lawn or I beat your ass". What is the India equivalent of that?
Hyperplane: 'Help ur momma or I will beat u till u beg for mercy'
Hyperplane: jk everyone has different parents my aren't that strict
**Hyperplane slaps Astrobytes around a bit with a large fishbot
Hyperplane: /me
Hyperplane: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
FdevM: what do you think I have to study to solve the problems on this site. Everytime i enter here it looks like everything i learnt is useless
Hyperplane: 1st year university level to solve 90% problems
Hyperplane: dynamic programming , tree and stuff
Scarfield: look at the easy puzzles, on the page before you hit "solve" there is keywords for what you need to know to solve it
Scarfield: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/the-descent
Scarfield: "External resources SortingLoopsThe Descent - Let's Play"
Hyperplane: thats too easy
jacek: :notebook: :soccer:?
Hyperplane: in fast mode most problems are from DP
jacek: fast mode?
Hyperplane: in clash of code
jacek: :x
Uljahn: eww
struct: are from DP?
Hyperplane: dynamic programic
Scarfield: dont feed the trolls
Hyperplane: im not troll
struct: surely not
FdevM: @Scarfield, i still trying to solve this problem, even saying that only require loops knowledge
Scarfield: which problem?
FdevM: "The Descent"
jacek: most people are strugging with i/o with this site first
Astrobytes: ^
struct: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
jacek: :imp:
Scarfield: thought i silenced notifications :expressionless:
Astrobytes: Scarlenced
Scarfield: how are you trying to solve it FdevM, paste code here and we can give some advice
Uljahn: "The Descent" has hints tab on the left, use it if you're completely stuck
Scarfield: i feel like there is a good pun with you name and sound astro, cant figure it out though :(
Uljahn: orchestrabytes
Scarfield: xD
Scarfield: was thinking more in the lines of no sound in space, but nice one Ulle
Hyperplane: where u able to solve the SUM OF SPIRAL'S DIAGONALS problem? was not found on the chat.
jacek: cosmobits
Vitruvius: There may be no sound, but there could be uh-strobe-lights
Astrobytes: Scarfield: Would that just be InSpaceNooneCanHearAstrobytesScream
Astrobytes: (nice suggestions all btw, ty)
Scarfield: xD yea, soon this chat will have descended to only be pun nicknames
jacek: :scream: :no_mouth:
Uljahn: Vacuumnibbles :smirk:
Scarfield: silent and delicious
Astrobytes: lol Uljahn
Scarfield: im off, gn all :wave:
Astrobytes: gn man, take care
struct: gn
69razer69: how did i get 5000cp playing only clash of code
Wontonimo: you played too much
69razer69: lol wbu
Wontonimo: play mad knight racing for more cp
Wontonimo: easy 3000cp right there
69razer69: bot ptogramming
69razer69: ?
Wontonimo: yup
faktorial: hello
faktorial: any python developer here
JBM: not any more
YurkovAS: MadKnight racing :joy:
Wontonimo: yes, I confess to being a python developer
faktorial: I am just learning python
Wontonimo: for all new(ish) the python devs out there, you may find this link useful https://www.hackinscience.org/exercises/
Uljahn: im not a python dev but better than 99% of professionals according to CG certification :confused:
Mic74: congratulations! :-)
Queuebee: Lol same :joy:
Queuebee: It's fun though
69razer69: is there a real job can cg certification get you
ninnghazad: mh, maybe a few - but the skills you can train in a fun way surely would help get a good job.
69razer69: lol i will take a few
ninnghazad: my boss would have no idea what CG is, or why he should care.
69razer69: u working in IT field
ninnghazad: kind of. programmer at a civil engineering company. simulations, water, climatechange and stuff.
69razer69: ow i think its normal that he have no idea abt cg
69razer69: seems like a fun job
ninnghazad: it's ok i guess. nice to write stuff that is connected to reality - and not just some abstract financial or marketing stuff. and buisness is good, lots of climate change and thus floodings, so lots of projects and moneys to spend on r n d.
LittleFlea: working all day in programmation.does it become redundant.mundane? i have fuin coding and am scared i would lose the fun in it by doing thing mechanically.
CodingCanon: Hi! I'm new.
ninnghazad: that depends LittleFlea - a bad job can suck the fun out of everything. if it's in a field that interests you and you got decent co-workers - then coding is fund even decades later
ninnghazad: and if it's redudant - youre doing it wrong =)
Wontonimo: hey
Kaybae1202: hey
Thorcode: hi Wontonimo
Wontonimo: hey hey ... what have you been up to Thor?
Thorcode: Trying to beat you in Codegolf Wontonimo
Wontonimo: nice!
Wontonimo: want some tips? Where is LazyMammal, he's been killing it in golf
Thorcode: yep
Wontonimo: which one?
Thorcode: I got my first tip don't use "tab" or enter
Wontonimo: which golf are you working on?
Thorcode: CHuck norris :D
Thorcode: my best is 210 char
Wontonimo: okay, so first thing is I use
z=input
Wontonimo: on the first line
Wontonimo: then instead of using
Wontonimo: input()
Wontonimo: later on,
Wontonimo: i use
Wontonimo: z()
Wontonimo: it only helps if you have to use input() several times
Wontonimo: and only in python
Wontonimo: what language are you using?
Thorcode: Python
Thorcode: I use only 1 input
Wontonimo: and do you use a print?
Thorcode: and I just realize that i could do this
Wontonimo: instead of
print(result)
Wontonimo: you can use
Thorcode: ifa==b:print(a);a+=1
Wontonimo: g(result)
Thorcode: how to use g(result)
Wontonimo: but only if you print once
Wontonimo: using
Wontonimo: g=input
Wontonimo: then for the last line of your program you can write
Wontonimo: g(result)
Wontonimo: to print the result
Thorcode: gosh I use len
Wontonimo: len?
Wontonimo: to print?
Thorcode: no to caculate
Thorcode: to change from string to ascli 7bit
Thorcode: some guy code only 54 char
Thorcode: how
Waffle3z: tried a new idea with cttt where I watch the opponent play and see how good I think its moves are and try to beat them if I think their moves are bad. turns out most moves are scored pretty similarly and it can't tell what's good or bad
Waffle3z: so it ends up going for a draw when it could easily win because it can't recognize weaker opponents
Wontonimo: i've thought about doing something similar. thanks for doing the work and sharing the insight
Waffle3z: a different way of evaluating the moves would probably have better success there since mine is still just a heuristic with some subtle biases that shift the move preference by a small amount, so that move is worth almost the same as another one because I just added .001 to break the tie
Waffle3z: good moves and bad moves are almost the same because of the way I evaluate them, something like mcts might work better, possibly even if it doesn't actually produce better moves
Waffle3z: if it's able to detect and beat weaker opponents better than I can then it could score higher
Waffle3z: this strategy only works to exploit an existing pool of players who aren't considering the strategy, since if p2 is just mirroring p1 while p1 is trying to watch how p2 plays, it's going to get nothing out of it
Waffle3z: I actually do seem to be beating a couple players though, occasionally. the idea is to identify weaker players and win, and draw against stronger players and never lose
Wontonimo: so cheese
Wontonimo: this game needs a fix
Wontonimo: i say : random initial moves before the game begins. just total chaos
Wontonimo: anyway
Wontonimo: cool insight Waffle3z
Wontonimo: gn - i'm out
Thorcode: how to delete space like this?
Thorcode: 1 2 3
Thorcode: I use *e
Thorcode: e is a list
ISAI: i know
ISAI: inn python right
Atharv_Ag: Hello
TheBrokenTraveller_5024: woah
Atharv_Ag: .
Flowersquare: yoyoyo~
htmlhigh5: How many people does it take for there to be more than just a "wood" league in a bot programming game?
