Wontonimo: see PM
jacek: post mortem?
Thorcode: Why can't i import numpy on visual?
Uljahn: Automaton2000: why can't I read minds
Automaton2000: when you do the same
Thorcode: ?
gavi: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/7db82194-1a51-4cb1-b8ea-bd943a29b95d
gavi: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/190cacf7-7e5d-4a2a-a526-55e293403f98
gavi: I am not sure why I get these past-bins....
gavi: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/bdefa779-f44f-47bd-843b-082386b158ce
gavi: Hello, can some expert give advice to me, please?
gavi: I did quite a lot of "practice" on CG...
gavi: ...but I never did any multiplayer puzzles.
gavi: What is the best category to start?
gavi: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/ed2a2a1d-57fc-46e8-a9fe-9a7c979f3451
gavi: Contests?
gavi: Clash of Code?
gavi: Bot Programming?
gavi: Optimization?
gavi: Code Golf?
gavi: Can someone point me to a blog explaining the different types of competitions, so that I can understand how to start competing?
gavi: I find particularrly challenging the situations where I can't use my IDE and I have got to code inside the browser
gavi: so I prefer one input, one output situations. maybe that would be "optimisation" competitions?
darkhorse64: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/40701/help-center/getting-started-on-codingame
derjack: multiplayer is like puzzle, except you get your input in a loop
Thorcode: How to import numpy in visual studio code?
TheBlueBias: Did you sacrified a goat?
darkhorse64: You don't. Install numpy in your Python distribution. Profit
dreadylein: SciSharp has a port iirc, aside of that yeah python :P
dreadylein: or was it a binding ? cant remember exactly
Thorcode: Thanks guy
gavi: thank you derjak. So, because of the loop, the only way to use my own IDE is to reverse engineer the expected input, correct?
darkhorse64: Save the input in a file and read it
derjack: or simulate yourself. multiplayer games involve well, multi bots. make local 'arena' where bots fight
derjack: robo making breakthrough in bt eh
RoboStac: hopefully, though no doubt the server will disagree with my benchmark results as I only ran 50 games
derjack: :scream:
derjack: fail with joli
R0m_Hein: yo negga
Hell_Classie: ptdr
RoboStac: :(
DeltaChad: yooo
derjack: 2 the same games? :thinking:
ESMAKING: i will never be good at coding!!!!! ;(
ESMAKING: NEVER
dreadylein: why
ESMAKING: cus im so stupid in ass
NuclearNoodle_7e98: hi
NuclearNoodle_7e98: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/467ea406-b9c1-4706-aad6-919854a4a246
AwardWinningWrestlerAndHisDog_993d: Hello
dinmor: how do i solve mars lander ep 2
dinmor: someone help
AwardWinningWrestlerAndHisDog_993d: use your brain
dinmor: bro take ur phd in fucking coding somewhere else if ur gonna sit here and play coding games and not help beginners u fucking nerd
AwardWinningWrestlerAndHisDog_993d: bro take ur phd in fucking coding somewhere else if ur gonna sit here and play coding games and not help beginners u fucking nerd
dinmor: see this is why u a nerd ur humor is broken
dinmor: hang urself u live in ur moms basement with an income of about 100$ a month for delivering pizza cus no one wants to employ ur fat fucking ass for some coding job
AwardWinningWrestlerAndHisDog_993d: uæyluæ
dinmor: go to the gym
Uljahn: Automaton2000: anyways
Automaton2000: for the last few days
gavi: @darkhorse64 OK, thank you. I tried with Mars Landing and I did not manage to reverse engineer the referee precisely...
ProCoder03: is it one or two ??
gavi: @derjak: how to make a local arena. Is there an explanation on how to reverse engineer the most typical referres (Mars Lander, the game of the cars, etc.)
ProCoder03: are you trying optimization gavi
ProCoder03: if yes, they don't have a local arena
darkhorse64: You need some physics knowledge: acc += thrust + gravity; v += a; p += 0.5 (v + v_old); all these equations implicitely use the fact that between two steps = 1s
gavi: thank you. so makybe, for me that I prefer to debug in the IDE, the best way to start to compete is Optimization, it seems
Uljahn: also you can try to search github for unofficial referees
gavi: @darkhorse: p ?
darkhorse64: I don't know of an unofficial referee for ML. p as position
Uljahn: v += a/2 in marslander
Uljahn: ah it's for p
gavi: oh, so p is average(old,new) rather than p+=v
gavi: oh v+=a/2 in mars lander, thank you
Uljahn: no. it's for p
darkhorse64: No v += a in my ML code
Uljahn: ye, was my bad
gavi: ML ? stands for?
Uljahn: MarsLander
darkhorse64: Mars Lander
gavi: oh, thanks
darkhorse64: One last thing, my equations use vectors so you have to take lander orientation into account for thrust
gavi: so ML, all intuitive, apart from p=p+ 0.5v + 0.5old_p
darkhorse64: old_v not old_p
gavi: for curiosity, what is the reason for
p += 0.5 (v + v_old);
gavi: rather than the usual p+= v
gavi: ohhh
gavi: old_v
gavi: orry
gavi: sorry
gavi: yes, you wrote that way: p += 0.5 (v + v_old)
darkhorse64: It's an approximation of the integral of v over time delta p = int (v*t) over [0 1]. Sorry no LateX
gavi: ohhhh cool, yes
gavi: thank you so much
darkhorse64: Yes, we are serious about math here
gavi: I did try to reverse engineer with Excel but I could not get it right
darkhorse64: :nerd:
gavi: thank you so much
gavi: ha ha ha yes, serious at math, as we should be
gavi: great, thank you
derjack: math :unamused:
gavi: haha
darkhorse64: p += v is OK when you assume that speed does not change other the interval. For Search Race (another simple optim), this is the case. 0.85 friction is applied only at the end of the turn
darkhorse64: other -> over
gavi: oh... thank you for the explanation!
The friction is usually applied to the speed?
v = (v+a)*0.85
gavi: So for 'Search Race' v+=a
thank you!
ProCoder03: v = (old_va+thrust)*0.85 iirc
ProCoder03: *old_v
ProCoder03: I was wrong as usual..
gavi: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/93fe13dc-3a31-48cf-a072-21ef7b4429ca
ProCoder03: you can see the exact rules
ProCoder03: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/search-race expert rules
darkhorse64: v += thrust; moveAndCheckCollisions(); v *= 0.85
gavi: @darkhorse
for ML friction 0.85?
applied to v ?
v+=a*0.85
darkhorse64: No friction for ML, we are moving into the void
gavi: ahh yes, right, void=nofriction.
so
v += thrust; moveAndCheckCollisions(); v *= 0.85
is for most other referees?
jzen: It is for Search Race
gavi: I see, thank you
darkhorse64: Yes, the friction may change
darkhorse64: SearchRace has an official referee. It's worth reading the code
gavi: ohh. thank you
darkhorse64: See you on the leaderboard
gavi: thank you! yes, I am looking forward to try to comepte!
gavi: compete
Mani_K_A: Hello World!
Benji-the-scripter: hello
struct: seems like twitch got leaked
TimothyAlexisVass: What do you think, should exec() be removed from clashes for Python?
TheBlueBias: No.[solved]
eulerscheZahl: no++
TheBlueBias: np so
eulerscheZahl: :/
TheBlueBias: What?
struct: is it usual for the entire site get leaked?
eulerscheZahl: leaked?
struct: yeah
struct: entire source code
eulerscheZahl: twitch is open source now?
struct: seems like it
struct: + user data
eulerscheZahl: oh wow, time to check the news
eulerscheZahl: "user payout"? so at least no password hashes and emails?
Robot15: twitch is open source?
Robot15: wtf
eulerscheZahl: now it is
Robot15: thats cool
eulerscheZahl: The user posted a 125GB torrent link to 4chan on Wednesday, stating that the leak was intended to “foster more disruption and competition in the online video streaming space” because “their community is a disgusting toxic cesspool”.
eulerscheZahl: that reasoning
struct: lol
TheBlueBias: 4chan...
struct: i read somewhere about passwords
struct: migth be wrong
struct: source code from 6'000 internal git repositories
struct: lol
eulerscheZahl: Some Twitter users have started making their way through the 125GB of information that has leaked, with one claiming that the torrent also includes encrypted passwords, and recommending that users enable two-factor authentication to be safe.
eulerscheZahl: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
eulerscheZahl: take my twitch, I don't need it. and i don't use the PW elsewhere
struct: same
struct: i dont really care
TheBlueBias: Same...
eulerscheZahl: but you are Multistruct on twitch
struct: no
eulerscheZahl: yes
struct: really?
struct: thats on github
eulerscheZahl: i'm pretty sure you were on twitch too, when I had my cameo appearance on someone else's stream
eulerscheZahl: discussion my code a la mode bot
eulerscheZahl: discussing, can't type
struct: maybe you are right
struct: 1 account is never enough
Mitsumi: hey, somebody know about Datamaps plugin ?
struct: I end up forgetting how many I have
eulerscheZahl: looking at the top streamers with the highest payouts. I don't know any of them :D
eulerscheZahl: https://twitter.com/KnowS0mething/status/1445663228831297545/photo/1
struct: kitboga should be near the top
struct: 94th
eulerscheZahl: gronkh at 42. i know the name but nothing more
darkhorse64: I finally made it to the 2048 top 10 with a bit of hardcoding, 65K tile for all tests and 131K tile for 4 of them
eulerscheZahl: i know kitboga of course
eulerscheZahl: hardcoding? shame on you
eulerscheZahl: kidding, congrats
darkhorse64: My hashing was completely broken
eulerscheZahl: you said so much
eulerscheZahl: "always question your code"
darkhorse64: I am tempted to bitboard the thing with a 128 int to try and gain speed
darkhorse64: and use the 128int directly as hash
eulerscheZahl: and score as well
eulerscheZahl: but applying moves on a snake board would be a pain
darkhorse64: instead of storing tile values, I would store exponents only. I have assumed that score is not part of the hash
eulerscheZahl: can't you just appreciate this compact implementation and stick to it?
https://github.com/eulerscheZahl/2048/blob/master/src/main/java/engine/Board.java#L77-L115
eulerscheZahl: i was proud that I found a way not to code 4 functions for 4 pushing directions
darkhorse64: I love it so much that I copy/paste it in my engine. "Always read the referee"
noahcodesall: yo i am new to coding and i have know idea how to solve the coders strike back tutorial! can someone help pls
noahcodesall: no*
noahcodesall: i only know html and that language is not available lol
gavi: I am looking at Mars Lander.
Trying to find the formulas to predict the numbers provided by the referee.
Really struggling....
eulerscheZahl: toad to the rescue
gavi: thank you :-)
Given the velocity, the position is not clear to me
eulerscheZahl: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/9accbdb7-bd96-4086-ab8d-04bc2fa150a7
struct: if html is the only thing you know then you need to learn a programming language first
noahcodesall: k
noahcodesall: have any suggestions?
eulerscheZahl: you get a rounded input each turn but the server keeps doubles. so you should ignore the values you get from stdin at later turns
gavi: thank you. Now I study it
gavi: I see!!
eulerscheZahl: took me a few hours to get those 5 lines ;)
struct: I dont know which language to suggest to a beginner
gavi: yes, and you are impressive. me after hours I could not figure out the position
struct: python maybe?
noahcodesall: ok thx
gavi: thank you Euler
noahcodesall: where can i learn python free?
Uljahn: or javascript, good sinergy with html i guess
noahcodesall: dont feel like spending money on this
eulerscheZahl: you mean paython?
StarsAreFire: This site cost money?
noahcodesall: no
noahcodesall: i am using the free version
StarsAreFire: freecodecamp.org has python vids
noahcodesall: i meant spending money on a coding website lol
noahcodesall: thx
struct: language is not very important
struct: you just need to learn how to program
noahcodesall: oh ok
gavi: still, C++ might be very uphill
StarsAreFire: I am using this to learn rust atm. I am struggling on reading input into vector and then accessing atm lol
eulerscheZahl: my first was turbo pascal. i won't recommend that
noahcodesall: i literally had no idea what i was doing lol
gavi: and look for languages with plenty of tutorials, and examples, such as Python and C#, to start. True that the language is not imporant, but the learning resources might make it easier
noahcodesall: ok thx guys
noahcodesall: i really appreciate this
noahcodesall: gotta go
eulerscheZahl: learning Go now?
FollowerOJ: Hey anybody knows where i can find my contributions?
struct: community->contributions->my contributions
FollowerOJ: thanks :D
FollowerOJ: I am pretty sure you are irrational @eulerscheZahl ;)
eulerscheZahl: :P
jacek: :no_mouth:
gavi: Euler, thank you. your formulas work like MAGIC
eulerscheZahl: *like math
TheBlueBias: Na.
TheBlueBias: MAgic
gavi: well, i tried for hours to find them... not sure it was math
gavi: if you used math, very well done!
TheBlueBias: Kiss the toad and he'll change in... something.
gavi: ha ha ha
gavi: he is already a hero
miszu: question about genetic algorithm. How do you simulate multiple moves ahead with it?
miszu: I only see how to "improve" your genome but how can I simulate multiple moves
struct: do you mean in games where the actions are not always the same?
DomiKo: one genome is one move, so you can have 5 genomes and that's 5 moves
jacek: or one move depends on other?
miszu: so I am doing the zombie game optimization
baileyyware: hi
miszu: where you can have infinite moves in one tur
miszu: I guess the only genes I need is the x and y coordinates
DomiKo: could be
struct: or angle and distanc
miszu: but if I start with lets say 10 pairs of coordinates, how can I simulate next turns?
miszu: some links I am missing
4ThaWin: Which game should i start with when it comes to Go?
miszu: angle and dist can be derived from the coordinates
jacek: make 10 moves, get the score
jacek: 4ThaWin go :v
4ThaWin: jacek is Go not good?
miszu: should one genome be only one move or should be many moves?
jacek: 4ThaWin its alright
4ThaWin: jacek any suggestions for starting out?
jacek: miszu i.e. for search race my genome contains 20 moves, each move has angle and thrust that can be mutated.
jacek: i just apply 20 moves, get the score of game state and compare to others
miszu: ok so for one genome you generate many moves
jacek: 4ThaWin do you have any experiences with games?
jacek: coders strike back is kind of tutorial game. connect 4 is easy board game to start with
miszu: jacek to generate one of the genome, I assume you take initial state, generate random move, apply the move, generate next move, apply the move etc.
4ThaWin: jacek I'll start with those than
jacek: miszu when i generate genome, the genome knows nothing about the game. it is just random angle and thrust within range
miszu: that makes it easier
miszu: thanks
struct: but on cvz you might want to sim until the end
miszu: what happens if one of the gene it is an invalid move?
jiM-: the earth explodes man !
jacek: i know nothing about cvz. in search race there are no 'invalid' moves
miszu: makes sense
darkhorse64: Make it a null move
darkhorse64: For CvZ, I recommend simulating till the end. Games are no long
miszu: when you say simulating, that for the generating genome right?
darkhorse64: Let's not be confused by words. A genome is just an array of values. I make it big enough to have moves till the end
struct: I dont think it goes over 50 turns
struct: at least with my code
darkhorse64: I have 40 turns. That's enough for all
miszu: darkhorse64 the array of moves you made, are they random without taking the game state in each move or you make the move while generating random moves?
struct: i would go with 1st option
darkhorse64: Yep, they are fully random at the start, and they do not contain the game state. Starting from the current state, I apply one move after the other to the state
darkhorse64: I am not doing a MonteCarlo search
miszu: I did MCTS and able to reach 510th
darkhorse64: so I have a pool of move sequences
miszu: only by looking at zombies and humans
darkhorse64: Although I made a lot of progress at 2048, I am still behind you
struct: you use bitboards there darkhorse64?
Flickary: should i be here well im just learning how to code complex programs or should I wait until I'm more experienced? thoughts?
darkhorse64: No, but I am thinking of using a union of 128 bit integer with a char[4][4]. That would give me free hashing
struct: what do you mean by learning how to code complex programs?
struct: I see
Flickary: i am just getting past the memorization part of python and getting into actually making programs that accomplish things
struct: memoization or memorization?
eulerscheZahl: memoization
Flickary: sorry cant spell
darkhorse64: But I am not sure that more speed will improve my search
struct: np was just a bit confused
struct: I guess you can already solve some puzzles here then
miszu: darkhorse64 are you talking to me when you mentioned behind you?
struct: Probably it wont
Expert23six: how should i tell when my boost is available
struct: you only have 1 boost
darkhorse64: yes miszu
miszu: ah ok sorry, can't hear you from top there :P
miszu: LALALALALA
darkhorse64: :rage:
miszu: tbh speed doesn't matter
miszu: so don't break your head over that
miszu: well.. it matters but since you are 10th there is no benefit by making it faster
darkhorse64: The thing that puzzles me is that I score either 1.147M points or 2.8 M points depending on the test case. Looks like I hit a wall just like before
miszu: I have the same thing
miszu: but for me it's 1.7M or 2.8M
struct: change the seed based on the initial game state
struct: and have fixed ammount of sims
struct: ezpz
jacek: oh change in counting ttt
darkhorse64: How manytimes do you the 131K tile ?
darkhorse64: do you reach
struct: is 131k the max?
miszu: I think I reached it two or three times
miszu: only under special cases
darkhorse64: I reach it with 4 test cases
miszu: ok so 4 then
darkhorse64: Yes I think 131K is the max
darkhorse64: CTTT is nearing completion. Only Boss 2 needs to be fixed
miszu: what's CTTT?
struct: I see
struct: I searched and its only possible in some scenarios
struct: https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/a/49
darkhorse64: Counting Tic Tac Toe, a new contrib. I made a mistake, it's 1.147M but 1.747M
darkhorse64: it's not
darkhorse64: May be you were lucky and reach it also in the random seed test case
miszu: I tried many submissions to get a lucky seed
miszu: I didn't go far with it
miszu: maybe the difference between me and 1st place is the random seed
Westicles: the seeds don't change
miszu: the first test case is a random seed
struct: I think he means his random number seed
struct: But I doubt is that
struct: Maybe I was wron
darkhorse64: 26 * 1.747 + 4 * 2.8 = 56,622. You did better at least in one test case
miszu: I had in 3 millions once
darkhorse64: S my search needs improvements
darkhorse64: So
miszu: it's all in heuristics
miszu: and making sure you pruned dups
miszu: use a set and make sure you have unique paths at the end of an iteration. If you get only two to 4 unique states then you did something wrong
Westicles: only 14 of them can reach the 131k tile
darkhorse64: looks like dbdr found most of them
miszu: I want to know the secret salsa from dbdr
darkhorse64: He is a beast at optims and code golf
jacek: the secret ingredient is love
Westicles: well, that's the last guy on here likely to share
miszu: he wants to keep the 1st place :D
darkhorse64: afk for a while, see you later
Uljahn: discovering secrets by yourself is the funniest part of competition, why ruin it
Westicles: on a few of the problems all orientations of snakes lead you into a dead end. I think he must start at a good end and work backwards. or something
Westicles: anyhow, someday xevi will figure it out and tweet us a hint
miszu: writing the genetic algorithm is not that trivial
SquidXTV: Java test cases bugged?
fztik: y
jacek: darkhorse64 i think there is bug when i play as 2nd player
jacek: or rather, if there is one move left in game, it assumes i played it and doesnt count it in opponentRow and opponentCol
jacek: also, the statement needs update
Wontonimo: CTTT boss 2 is my code and it does't handle the second game
Wontonimo: I don't know when i'll have time to fix it
Wontonimo: if someone else who is ahead of me wants to volunteer their bot as boss 2, I'd be totally okay with that. I don't want to hold up the contribution.
quuentinb: Hi, someone did this puzzle in PHP ?
quuentinb: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/stock-exchange-losses
Wontonimo: do you need help?
quuentinb: Yes if it's possible
Wontonimo: most definitely it is possible
quuentinb: Thanks a lot, I tried to find the logic but ...
Wontonimo: here is the pseudo code
Wontonimo: read in data
Wontonimo: set highest and lowest to first data point
Wontonimo: loop through rest of data points
Wontonimo: if you have a new high, set the highest and lowest to the new high
Wontonimo: if you have a new low, calculate the loss. if the loss is more than the biggest loss you've ever seen, replace it
Wontonimo: start with a loss of zero
quuentinb: Thank a lot I'll try to do it
Wontonimo: the start loss of zero is above the loop btw
Wontonimo: quuentinb , all the classic puzzles (other than 1 very hard one) are able to be solved in all the programming languages in the drop down.
quuentinb: Ok ok thank you very much
darkhorse64: jacek, I asked precisely to rezasi to change the referee this way. You do not need the last move you played but you need to know you are starting a new game as first
jacek: at least its more challenging
jacek: you need to win first game bu huge margin as p1, or lose by small as p2
jacek: stupid breakthrough. i used to own this game :(
aCat: hi jacek
aCat: got my ping from slack?
jacek: yes
jacek: though i dont know how could i help. i sux at graphics
_NikJ: Problem with referee output in game1. Output content:WARNING: sun.reflect.Reflection.getCallerClass is not supported. This will impact performance.
While using the brutaltester
_NikJ: Nvm, solved by using inoryy's solution, UTTT referee needed -Dleague.level=2
jacek: oO
jacek: all this tic tac toe like talks recently...
eatmeinsideout: hi
eatmeinsideout: how do i do this
jacek: yes
TheBlueBias: Absolutely
Fazel1: hi
Fazel1: What exactly is this game like?
TheBlueBias: Hmm... Well, you choose a class, farm lvl and items, upgrade your stuff, kill monsters, and compete with the other players.
TheBlueBias: The best is to try it yourself.
TheBlueBias: Oh. Since you didn't precise your question's context , I answered considering mine. Hope don't mind.
jacek: nyoro~n
jacek: lavoseh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P3CepcjtEw
LiquidBacon: BlueBias youre so cringey
TheBlueBias: The musical?!
LiquidBacon: like actuallt
TheBlueBias: I'll forget about this and stay with the game.
LiquidBacon: youre probably 40
Manjius: arent all developers 40
jacek: only cobol ones
LiquidBacon: whos a developer here?
TheBlueBias: Yeah. All 40 people are cringey. Get better when they reach 41
LiquidBacon: cringe oml
LiquidBacon: please stop
TheBlueBias: Nobody's developer here. We're all here to talk about mlp.
Manjius: ok hold up
Manjius: 2 far
jacek: mlp? multi-layer perceptrons?
TheBlueBias: Meh. That's developer things. I meant "My little pony" of course.
jacek: oO
Wontonimo: :wave:
struct: hi
Wontonimo: hey hey
Wontonimo: i just solved stock exchange losses. wow. in php even. double wow. beat that
Wontonimo: it involved 2, not 1, but 2 if statements
Wontonimo: tricky
struct: damn
Wontonimo: yeah, that's why they call me "that guy" at work
Wontonimo: or maybe it's because I take 3 slices of pizza at the end of week party
**Astrobytes sends vegetable tacos
Wontonimo: whatever
Wontonimo: hey, thanks
Wontonimo: speaking of which, I'm going out for mexican food tonight. to a restaurant. like, out in the world
secantsquared: good luck php won't help in that realm
Wontonimo: it still feels weird to go out. anyone else got the i-still-feels-like-a-zombie-apocalypse feeling when they go out?
secantsquared: you are braver than I am
secantsquared: LOL
secantsquared: yes, me, totally know what you mean by that
Astrobytes: Yep
Astrobytes: Too many idiots around. I feel mildy safer with my 2 jabs but not much
Wontonimo: according to data here, if you have a working immune system and are between 18 and 50, your chances of having complications if infected as 10x higher than if in the same group and got your 2 jabs.
Wontonimo: that changes it from 2%, to 0.2%
Wontonimo: still high. I wouldn't want to roll the dice for that regularly
Wontonimo: anyway, i'm here to talk about coding and stuff
Astrobytes: yeah the stats are mildly encouraging, what I'm more concerned about are the variants which will be emerging in the next few months
Wontonimo: very true. me too dude, me too
Astrobytes: thanks to the Great Unvaxxed
Astrobytes: Anyway, I promised myself no serious stuff in here.
osbourne: ok
Astrobytes: Lets talk about...
Wontonimo: noobs !
Wontonimo: hey new people !
Wontonimo: I haven't seen secantsquared here before :wave:
Wontonimo: or osbourne :wave:
Wontonimo: welcome, and what brought you here?
Astrobytes: I think the latter is new
secantsquared: I stop in now and then when I don't feel like working on code I should be working on
Astrobytes: hehehehe, many people do that :)
secantsquared: then I'm in the right place
Wontonimo: cool. looks like you used to be a clasher, that mid this year you discovered multis and stuff !
secantsquared: I pop on here and there when I can, it's fun and definitely the most interesting and unique of all the code challenge/battle sites for sure.
Wontonimo: you got to gold in the pod race game! Nice. How did you do it?
Wontonimo: i haven't seen antisquid for a long while. What ever happened to that flying saucer intergalactic cat?
Wontonimo: (now turned into the great attractor)
Astrobytes: He's on now and then, albeit briefly, doing other things I guess
Uljahn: he's more active on discord
TheBlueBias: :older_man:
Westicles: heh heh. midwits here
BobLob: Would anyone know why I'm getting messages that random people have approved or refused different clashes of code?
Westicles: look in settings
TheBlueBias: You played enough clashs to get moderation rights on them.
BobLob: ah, I see. Thanks for the info
Westicles: huh, all my crappy contribs got approved
TheBlueBias: But as Westicles said you can deactivate these notification in your account settings BobLob
BobLob: Got it, thanks again
Viprixity: wassup
Viprixity: Does this help you learn coding
Viprixity: i really wanna be a developer so im using this
Viprixity: im 13
Wontonimo: so many 13s on this site
Wontonimo: Viprixity this site doesn't really teach you. It is good for challenging yourself once you know the basics
Wontonimo: 1/2 a million people have attempted this challenge and only 54% have succeeded. It one of the easiest challenges here https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/the-descent
Wontonimo: if you find it too difficult, practice "if" statements, loops, and arrays then definitely come back
dan.b: i've completed this one :sunglasses:
Astrobytes: Martin Fierro rips it up every time!
Astrobytes: Aw crap, wrong window, sorry.
Astrobytes: I'll close this one, goodnight :saxophone:
cw477: qwerty
cw477: uiop
Thorcode: Yeah I have another teammate to beat the cat
Wontonimo: hey Thorcode, how goes the coding?
Thorcode: nice
Thorcode: I'm trying the 6-5 kyu on codewars
Wontonimo: hey, moving up in the ranks
Wontonimo: how was 7th?
Thorcode: not really hard :grin:
Thorcode: it very simple
Thorcode: some 1kyu is easy but it not in python lan :(
Wontonimo: passed both 8th and 7th. cool
Thorcode: well solve a 6 kyu I pass a rank :)
Thorcode: have you join Codewar?
Wontonimo: yes, just to check it out
Wontonimo: not serious about it. i was just browsing while chatting here and saw this fun puzzle https://www.codewars.com/kata/5dc49700c6f56800271424a5
Wontonimo: it is the classic key-and-door maze
Wontonimo: this is the "literal" implementation of a dungeon crawl mechanic that is found in so many games
Wontonimo: you have to find the thing (key) that helps you pass some challenge (door).
Wontonimo: It could be a giant man eating slug (as a door) and to pass it you have to pick up some salt (the key) from a beach
Thorcode: really 3kyu
Thorcode: you serious ? Wontonimo?
Wontonimo: i'm not suggesting you attempt it. I was just saying i like the puzzle
Thorcode: yeah
Wontonimo: that it is "classic" and very much at the heart of a lot of dungeon crawlers
Thorcode: it look difficult
Thorcode: I don't even understand the input
Wontonimo: read the description
Wontonimo: the upper case letters are doors
Wontonimo: so A B C are all doors
Wontonimo: and the lower case characters are the keys : a b c ...
struct: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Thorcode: yup the character is stand for thing in the dungeon
Wontonimo: why flip table struct?
struct: loa is hard
Thorcode: how could you understand what struct is saying
struct: mcts seems way easier than minimax
Wontonimo: lines of action is hard i bet
struct: yeap
struct: the move generator is very slow
struct: And I cant understand what the paper writer is trying to say
struct: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/5aab8efe-0bf6-4b23-9084-8d6e2b9f1f6c
Wontonimo: i think they are saying to optimize move generation
Wontonimo: but they could be talking about a chicken recipe
struct: one day ill understand how to read these papers
struct: I think mine isn't slow but its not anywhere close to the paper implementation
struct: At least fom what I understand from it
struct: hmm
struct: I think I understand
Wontonimo: you have more patience than i do to read those papers
struct: I dont read them
struct: I read like < 10% of it
Wontonimo: for these games I like to just jump in and do a minimum of reading
struct: well I did the bot
struct: but I dont know what to do
struct: its only behind minimax god
Thorcode: Traceback (most recent call last): http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/80e49d2b-d8f6-4d47-afca-37d49e9bda18
Thorcode: what is this mean?
struct: https://i.imgur.com/HGkVDjL.png
Wontonimo: it means that 'str' object cannot be interpreted as an integer
struct: n is not a number
Wontonimo: try this
for i in range(int(n)):
Thorcode: no why I passed all testcase but this happend
Thorcode: https://imgur.com/a/zfYhKBd
Wontonimo: what value was passed in for that last test case? if it was "" or "x" then it'll throw an errror
Wontonimo: read the write up of what is expected if the input is invalid
Wontonimo: perhaps you are supposed to return -1
Thorcode: oh
Thorcode: It's your duty to verify that n is a valid positive integer number. If not, please, return false
Thorcode: I suck
Wontonimo: you failed your duty. that makes doodie of your duty
Thorcode: yep I missed that
Thorcode: isinstance(n, int)
Thorcode: can I do this?
Wontonimo: if type(n) == int :
Thorcode: oh thanks
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/ddc51a66-1fc7-47f6-8cfb-d35737c60b57
Thorcode: thanks Wontonimo
Wontonimo: you are welcome. if only i knew a similar trick to help struct
struct: I think i understand what they do
struct: But not sure how to implement it yet
struct: basicly it will avoid me doing
struct: popcnt * n_pieces * 4
Wontonimo: 1 of 2 tasks done. I'd say you are 50% done and it only took you an hour or so. Given another hour just imagine what you'll accomplish
Wontonimo: yikes, that's a lot of calculations
struct: yeah and doing that every turn gets expensive I guess
struct: every move gen*
Thorcode: what are you guy doing?
struct: lines of action
struct: its a board game
Thorcode: oh
Thorcode: I know it
Thorcode: that game is fun
Thorcode: even I don't understand the rule of it
Thorcode: but it look fun
tubronjame: I'm not good in English
Wontonimo: ok
Wontonimo: mi englisk is bad allso
Thorcode: yep bad
Wontonimo: real bad
Wontonimo: and, it is the only language i know :(
Thorcode: you pretend to be a noob right?
Wontonimo: tubronjame or me?
Thorcode: you
Thorcode: Wontonimo
Wontonimo: oh. no, i'm not pretending to be noob. i'm admitting my poor language skills, specifically spelling of my native language
miszu: how you sort a vector efficiently when your sorting depends on the game state?
miszu: nvm I found a hack
Thorcode: who?
mr.zhongnight: real?
Thorcode: oh it not a person
Thorcode: is there anything I can do in CG?
ljtechdotca: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/2000757c42ae0b7c63fadb15d710002fd5f59d6
Thorcode: hi
ljtechdotca: hello
Nafissi: hello
Thorcode: launch the clash plz
Thorcode: I'm bored and thanks
TechnoBot: BRuh
NuclearNoodle_7e98: hi
