jacek: good morning
Husoski: @DEIZ21 Follow the quest map. Scroll down on the home screen and you'll see the paths. That's the route to certifications.
Husoski: oops. just replied to a 9 hour old message.
Husoski: again.
jacek: oO
Husoski: :rolling_eyes:
w3Develops: join the clash https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1971562feb05956d9118066b01c2759d6401f84
DhrbP57: yo
Jayce132: 🙄
jacek: :upside_down:
scripto_entity_1010: ello guys
Jayce132: hi fren
Gloryness: hello fren
Thor-the-thunder-god: what is fren
Thor-the-thunder-god: guys
RRRoumy: Automaton2000
Automaton2000: you can keep track of the game
RRRoumy: Automaton2000
Automaton2000: how good are you at uttt ?
RRRoumy: Automaton2000
Automaton2000: then try a different browser
DohAdv: hi
littlebear: Automaton2000 hello :)
Automaton2000: which makes it a little more
Glich: )clo
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rame3116: Hello everyone, am I the only one who has the RUN button that does not work?
rame3116: It just loops forever
Uljahn: where's that button?
rame3116: In the exercices
rame3116: Activity-Learn
rame3116: I'm practicing PHP but it doesn't work anywhere
rame3116: I've tried different PCs, internet connexions and navigators
Uljahn: yep, same for me, guess the problem is with tech.io
rame3116: thanks!
jacek: a helpful mod o.O
7743: :eye:
sequel: yo
sequel: @everyone
jacek: @everypony
scottchoker: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Wontonimo: no spamming, be nice, talk about coding or coding game, (mostly) stay on topic
jacek: Wontonimod
Wontonimo: you know it
jacek: are you working on something on CG?
Wontonimo: tron
jacek: mhm
Wontonimo: finally fixed my floodfill
nulte: do you do them separately Wontonimo?
Wontonimo: the floodfill is synchronous on 1 map, not 1 map per player
Wontonimo: is that what you are asking nulte ?
nulte: yes
Wontonimo: are you planning on getting into Tron ?
Astrobytes: nulte is resurrected eh
Wontonimo: then died again
Astrobytes: here :taco:
Astrobytes: Small consolation prize
Wontonimo: thanks. nulte's death isn't really hitting me hard, but I'll not refuse a taco
Astrobytes: I was looking for a frisbee emoji but there isn't one
Wontonimo: I never found the actual bug in my code but I found a previous version that didn't have the bug. It was before I switched to a custom written queue, so that may have been it
Wontonimo: Now to add minimax
Astrobytes: custom Q is faster for a start
Astrobytes: Oh I misread
Wontonimo: my custom queue was 600 pre-allocated elements. in hindsight, it probably doesn't handle collision expansions, and needs to be 4 times that size
Wontonimo: but it did loop around, so, it should have been okay
Astrobytes: debug that thoroughly
Astrobytes: It's easy to fook it up
Bassel: Hey guys
Astrobytes: Hello
Wontonimo: :wave: Bassel
Astrobytes: Wondering what to work on this week
Wontonimo: Bassel, *everyone* is competing in Tron ;) https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/tron-battle , come join us
Astrobytes: Had a couple of weeks doing very little on CG, need to work on an official multi
Wontonimo: I had a couple months of very little
Astrobytes: It happens
Wontonimo: my score in Tron is bugging me now
Astrobytes: Just go all in
Astrobytes: I did that for FB after Sogeti, then Tron after
Astrobytes: *all in when you have the time I mean
Wontonimo: yeah, that's my current path. on that path is to make sure my floodfill is working like it should
Astrobytes: make a quick visualiser
Wontonimo: ah. that much all-in
Astrobytes: Well it can be text output
Astrobytes: just make sure it's right
Wontonimo: of course
Wontonimo: high performance computing using a buggy sim is just running fast in the wrong direction
Astrobytes: Yes, it is :)
Wontonimo: 3rd place gold before stabilization ... and ... 3rd place after. cool
Wontonimo: okay, I think this version of floodfill is good.
Wontonimo: Looking at replays it is doing what i expect it to do
Wontonimo: onto minimax
nulte: nice
Wontonimo: thanks
Wontonimo: what multis are you interested in nulte ?
nulte: so its currently just 1 ply?
nulte: im struct
Wontonimo: oh. i see
Wontonimo: i knew that at some point, but forgot till you reminded me
Wontonimo: it is just straight up synchronous flood fill.
Wontonimo: the scoring is
myarea * 100 - sum(enemyareas)
nulte: but with voronoi?
Wontonimo: yeah
YurkovAS: nulte thanks for help with c4! I'm did smart rollouts, bot improved.
Astrobytes: nice one Wontonimo :+1:
nulte: nice YurkovAS
nulte: and np
Bassel: Is this tron battle?
Astrobytes: Yea
Astrobytes: h
Wontonimo: nulte, you have no skills ! (*according to CG)
Wontonimo: i feel kinda silly now not remembering. oh well
Astrobytes: It's OK, I think even struct forgot nulte at some point lol
nulte: i never finished quest map here
nulte: This account is cursed
nulte: chat keeps crashing randomly
nulte: I lose all the messages
Astrobytes: delete
Astrobytes: New account: Netuno
Illedan: Yo
MSmits: Yo
Astrobytes: Yo
nulte: yo
Illedan: I crushed 4-10 so badly in FB that I can't use their scores to get top2 again -.-
Astrobytes: lol
MSmits: you wore out the stepping stone
nulte: Illedan i have pro tip for that
Illedan: Ok?
nulte: spam submit a weaker bot to boost their elo
nulte: :D
Illedan: I had some timebomb in mind
Illedan: after 5 min, start crashing
nulte: that works too
Illedan: But only crash when I track a n00b enemy
nulte: 50% chance to crash after 5 min
nulte: so you can still get elo
Illedan: I had 50% vs top2 and > 75% vs the rest. Still 3rd -.-
Illedan: Too few games
MSmits: if you have even 51% vs top 2 it's possible with spam
Illedan: Not when I push everyone else more down :P
MSmits: why is that a problem?
Illedan: I lose so damn much when I lose vs them
MSmits: you should still pull nr 2 down
MSmits: because when you lose so damn much, your rating is low
MSmits: and he loses more
MSmits: as long as you have 50+% and you get games, nothing can stop you
MSmits: unless of course you push some of those other guys to nr 2
Illedan: :P
Illedan: I wish I had a timebank for FB
Illedan: As 90 % of turns are easy choices. Then I could use a bunch of time on those 2 rounds where everything crashes
Armangh: can someone help me with writing a turnery operation in java?
Armangh: nevermind got it right thanks
nulte: should be like something like
nulte: condtion ? true : false
Wontonimo: so, who's joining the fall contest? I suck at escape rooms irl. Anyone want a half decent coder but otherwise dead weight on their team?
Wontonimo: (I'm really selling this)
Armangh: I just joined and have started the Coder Strikes Back AI exercise. I don't seem to properly understand how it works and whats required. Anyone free to give me a hand?
Armangh: Got it, thanks
nulte: have you done the other escapes Wontonimo?
liuxin: 中国NB
nulte: grats on legend
Wontonimo: nope, haven't done escapes other than irl
Wontonimo: thanks for the grats
Wontonimo: it was by the skin of my teeth, with only a 0.13 points of TS
nulte: I cant promise anything yet, I still dont know the date
nulte: and hour
Wontonimo: np
nulte: how long until promotion?
Wontonimo: 1 hour
Wontonimo: so, after removing the bugs from floodfill, and adding minimax (not alphamax or nega) for 1 depth search. that's what worked. lots of bugs
nulte: hm I should try minimax
nulte: but you only do 2 players right?
Wontonimo: the minimax is "everyone for themselves"
Wontonimo: and it's all players
nulte: hmm never did multiple player minimax
nulte: 3+
Wontonimo: every player chooses it's best outcome based on :
controlled area * 100 - others area
Wontonimo: it's just what i did. it only scraped by, so there has to be better algos
Wontonimo: I've never done 3+ minimax before either
Wontonimo: I changed my floodfill to instead return the area for each player instead of a score. The eval within the minimax uses the returned area to calculate personalized score
nulte: I must try it
nulte: when I fix the bugs
Wontonimo: what bugs do you have left?
nulte: on my new code I have a bug
nulte: on 4 players
nulte: game always crashes on 2nd turn
nulte: But I havent looked into it yet
Wontonimo: with minimax, your scoring system using "area controlled" seems to work better
nulte: Ill try it this week probably
Wontonimo: cool
nulte: im out for the night
nulte: gn
Wontonimo: gn and gl
nulte: thanks
Thorcode: How can i input the color in Smash the code
Wontonimo: what do you mean?
Thorcode: the color of the block
Thorcode: to build combo
Wontonimo: what level are you?
Thorcode: 10
Wontonimo: league i mean
Thorcode: wood 2
Wontonimo: does the default code do anything?
Thorcode: I'm trying to build combo and count the row
Wontonimo: ah
Thorcode: nope
Thorcode: the default code stupid
Thorcode: I just print the 0 line
Thorcode: and i get lost about 6 round
Wontonimo: well, how about drop the block in the column according to its color
Thorcode: yeah
Thorcode: I'm trying that
Thorcode: but I couldn't input the color of the bloc
Wontonimo: what language?
Thorcode: python 3
Thorcode: I just random the number :grin: from 1-5
Wontonimo: do you see this line
color_a, color_b = [int(j) for j in input().split()]
Wontonimo: that gets the colors for you
Thorcode: how to do it
Wontonimo: it's already there
Thorcode: like if color_a == "red"
Wontonimo: if (color_a = 1)
Thorcode: i know
Wontonimo: if your read the game description, it tells you. colors are an integer from 1 to 5
Thorcode: oh
Thorcode: I'm stupid
Thorcode: thanks wontonimo
Wontonimo: np Thorcode !
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/87d00b65-6939-4c26-8d4e-0dce7fbfb0e3
Thorcode: How could I mis that line
Wontonimo: you'll notice that the variable color_a and color_b are being overwritten 8 times
Wontonimo: you'll probably want to put those in an array or something
Thorcode: An integer from 1 to 5 for a colored block.
Thorcode: but i missed this line
Thorcode: so I get loss
Wontonimo: because the only one you really need is the first one until you implement a search
Thorcode: I forgot to look carefully at the game input
Thorcode: well it worked
Thorcode: thanks
Wontonimo: what worked?
Thorcode: my code
Wontonimo: cool
Thorcode: I think i'm gona get to wood 1 soon
Thorcode: I want to ask you only 1 more thing
Thorcode: is how to buy item in botters of the galaxy
Wontonimo: don't limit yourself
Thorcode: uh
Wontonimo: to just 1 question
Thorcode: ok
Wontonimo: let me look, i haven't played that for a long time
Wontonimo: just print the command
"BUY [itemname]"
Thorcode: I know but the itemname how can i get it
Wontonimo: scroll down in the description on the left
Thorcode: I tried to buy like buy [health] but it doesn't work for me
Wontonimo: if you look at the default code it is there. look at the lines after
for i in range(item_count):
Wontonimo: that reads in all the items for you
Wontonimo: but it overwrites the values each time through that loop
Thorcode: oh thanks
Wontonimo: you need to put all that into a data structure
Wontonimo: no problem!
Thorcode: like use dictionary?
Wontonimo: yeah, or simply a list
Wontonimo: I have a "ItemClass", and make a list of items
Wontonimo: when i need one I iterate over the list to fine the best matching items for the situation
Thorcode: I should read the input and the default code more carefully
Wontonimo: i have to admit that I do a really bad job at it, seeing as I'm still low in the ranks
Thorcode: yeah You are in bronze league
Thorcode: but i'm in wood 3
Wontonimo: something that really helps me in the wood leagues is to look at replays of the top players in my league and the mid level players in the league one above
Wontonimo: look for patterns and simple strategies to copy
Wontonimo: in the higher leagues it's not as simple, but it's really useful to do in the lower leagues
Thorcode: wait in the smash the code the integer from 1-5 I think it is randomly and the color block doesn't fit to any of the integer
Thorcode: if c==1: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/6e6dc576-0933-440d-b269-e3b57428a780
Thorcode: I used this code but it print
Thorcode: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/581745148
Thorcode: c = color_1
Wontonimo: why not just do
print(color_1)
?
Wontonimo: instead of all that if/else
Thorcode: đie
Wontonimo: die?
Thorcode: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/581745455
Thorcode: oh
Thorcode: wrong
Thorcode: lose too
Thorcode: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/581745518
Thorcode: 1 ≤ colorA ≤ 5
Thorcode: gosh colorA like random number
Wontonimo: nope
Wontonimo: paste your code, i'll help you with your bug
Thorcode: while True: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/1120cda9-e2dd-4415-8114-3c230fa3536f
Thorcode: I think it do exactly the same as random
Wontonimo: normally pasting code is a big no, but this is wood 3 code, so it's okay
Wontonimo: you see these two lines
for i in range(8):
c, o = [int(j) for j in input().split()]
Wontonimo: ?
Thorcode: yeah
Thorcode: I changed color_a and b
Wontonimo: remember I said that c,o get overwritten every time around that loop and you need to put it in a list or something
Wontonimo: you didn't
Wontonimo: you are looking at the LAST c,o
Wontonimo: you need the FIRST c,o
Thorcode: the print?
Thorcode: c=o
Thorcode: colorA is always equal to colorB.
Wontonimo: no, that's not the point
Wontonimo: look at this code
Wontonimo: a = 33
for i in range(8):
a = i
Wontonimo: what is the value of a?
Thorcode: 33
Wontonimo: no. a = 7
Thorcode: how
Wontonimo: do you know what
"for i in range(8):" does?
Thorcode: yeah
Wontonimo: what does it do?
Thorcode: i is a number in 1-8
Thorcode: so?
Wontonimo: 0-7
Wontonimo: but yeah
Wontonimo: and how about the next line
" a = i"
Wontonimo: what does that do?
Thorcode: change the value of a
Thorcode: of course
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d6e50f70-6b3e-4dff-ade5-c99540a8e927
Thorcode: why i checked your code in visual terminal i doesn't work
Thorcode: i added print(a)
Thorcode: oh
Thorcode: right
Thorcode: but how i is in range 0-7
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/973c7204-0b7b-4355-92cc-288833c00a4d
Wontonimo: it works
Thorcode: yeah
Thorcode: but how a can be 7
Wontonimo: "but how i is in range 0-7"
because that is want "range(8)" means
Wontonimo: 8 numbers, starting with 0
Thorcode: yeah
Wontonimo: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Wontonimo: that's 8 numbers
Thorcode: so why i pick 7
Thorcode: it
Wontonimo: it didn't
Thorcode: a = 7
Wontonimo: it picked EVERY number and assigned a =0, then a=1, then a=2 ...
Wontonimo: finally .... after a long while
Wontonimo: it set a=7
Thorcode: oh
Thorcode: but when i delete that line my code didn't work
Wontonimo: that's right. you need to store it in an array
Wontonimo: consider this code
Thorcode: array again sad moment
Wontonimo: a = [33]
Wontonimo: for i in range(8):
Wontonimo: a.append(i)
Wontonimo: print(a)
Wontonimo: now what do you get?
Thorcode: 33?
Thorcode: and the 0-7
Wontonimo: did you put that in python and try it?
Thorcode: oh
Thorcode: append change it
Thorcode: but i didn't think that it change all the array
Wontonimo: you may find this site https://www.hackinscience.org/exercises/ really helpful to get a better understanding of arrays and other data in python
Thorcode: well thanks wontonimo
Thorcode: I get it
Wontonimo: there is another app called something like Mimo that has python quizes
Wontonimo: (don't get the paid version)
Thorcode: yeah
Thorcode: I know mim
Thorcode: mimo
Thorcode: I use crack
Wontonimo: i send you a private message
Wontonimo: i'm gonna log off in a sec
DhrbP57: yo
