JustinTruong: wow i love codingame
DW1: ye
JustinTruong: COC fun
Justin-Truong: yeah
jacek: good morning
littlebear: good morning
Maxim251: morning good
TechTheAwesome: mornings, afternoon for me :D
JustinTruong: guys are you free
JustinTruong: could you check my code
JustinTruong: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/30f944e8-0af7-45c2-9a3e-1e7f2e8ad0aa
IzharMashkif: Hi all
JustinTruong: oh i get it
littlebear: thrust
JustinTruong: what the difference
littlebear: it hold number type and string
littlebear: at same time
JustinTruong: You mean my trust var is wrong?
littlebear: i think
JustinTruong: thanks bro
JustinTruong: I fixxed it
littlebear: :)
JustinTruong: I know what my problem is
JustinTruong: have you play coder strike back little bear
littlebear: oh no
littlebear: i should
JustinTruong: try it
littlebear: ok
JustinTruong: it fun
MiyamuraIzumi: new account Justin?
JustinTruong: yeah
JustinTruong: i made this account to pratice COC
JustinTruong: and try to make stupid question
JustinTruong: however COC in this account is much higher than my old one
TechTheAwesome: I believe ranking rewards consistency
MiyamuraIzumi: ?
TechTheAwesome: so If you haven't play COC for a bit, on your old acc then you'll be ranked lower :o
MiyamuraIzumi: I don't care COC
TechTheAwesome: oh just realized that was an 40 min ago conversation xD
JustinZhang: Why you don't care about COC
jacek: there are some many other things on this site than coc
JustinZhang: i know
jacek: :tada:
DW1: Hi
littlebear: o/
MiyamuraIzumi: well finally, I abandon solver and try to tune the UCT formular on UTTT, my rank grow from 105 -> 80th
ProCoder03: why ??
MiyamuraIzumi: the bias constant is not good
MiyamuraIzumi: also I fix some timeout problem
ProCoder03: Ohh....
MiyamuraIzumi: for solver, I don't understand much on this, so failed on itergrate it
ProCoder03: :open_mouth:
MSmits: this is my solver for Yavalath if it helps:
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f5ebb03c-138f-4644-915f-9b336e713872
MSmits: status is the result of the last selected node and is either -1, 0 or 1 for loss/draw/win
MSmits: my selected nodes are in an array and i am traversing them backwards while solving (which reduces the selected count)
MSmits: i stop solving when it encounters an unsolved node
MSmits: (unsolved == status 2)
MSmits: mmh i should define a constant UNSOLVED = 2. That'd be much cleaner looking
MiyamuraIzumi: thank you, MSmits, I will try again :)
struct: hi
bear314: hi :D
INVIZE: Всем привет ебать !
MSmits: hey struct, Yavalath says it's your contribution!
MSmits: this makes me happy
MSmits: when did they fix this?
MSmits: I mean when did they fix the problem you created :P
struct: hm it doesnt show for me
MSmits: maybe it just says in the IDE then?
struct: ah on the ide it shows yeah
struct: no idea when they updated it
MSmits: https://imgur.com/a/qRkfHJM
struct: since usually i dont check ide
struct: yeah I see
MSmits: hmm maybe it was always this way. it doesnt say on the main page
MSmits: so maybe they didnt do anything
struct: I guess its fine like this :+p
MSmits: yeah ok
struct: sometimes can be tricky to update this kind of stuff
MSmits: yeah, I'd for sure mess stuff like this up
struct: Multiple db changes can be needed
struct: But is shows on my list of contributions :D
MSmits: oh cool
struct: https://i.imgur.com/705ZHKj.png
MSmits: but this was done by a different account right? So they must really have changed this later
struct: yes
MSmits: well good
struct: I just asked if it was possible, it was my fault anyways :p
MSmits: yeah, they would not have done this for any person
MSmits: only for the struct
struct: im sure they would do for more people
MSmits: well maybe a handful
MSmits: still trying to figure a Y thing out
MSmits: https://imgur.com/a/f1bhjC2
MSmits: if you're red, is there any point in playing on 1 1 unless it's the last safe option?
MSmits: cant make a win that includes 1 1 and the opponent cant play on 1 1, not even to win with it
struct: maybe to delay idk
struct: i would play 1 4
MSmits: like a zugzwang?
struct: since game is already lost
MSmits: yeah zugzwang is my only doubt
MSmits: not sure if they exist beyond avoiding playing insta loss hexes
MSmits: my bot actually played 1 4 there :)
MSmits: good eye :0
struct: usually zugzwang only applies when you only have 1 forced move
struct: but on bt if only forced moves are possible I usually expand again
struct: for example if 2 pieces can capture a 7th row pawn
struct: both the moves were forced
struct: So i expand them again
struct: But its a lower ammount on yavalath non forced must be a bit larger
MSmits: yeah, i mostly meant that there could be a situation where you have to choose between 2 moves and the other player can then make use of your choice to defeat you
MSmits: not necessarily forced moves
MSmits: I'm not sure if these exist. Not moving at all always seems worse than choosing the best of these 2
MSmits: so if you choose a useless move like the 1 1 move i showed, it will always be worse I think
MSmits: because as a safe move, you can always leave it for later, the opponent cant play there anyways
MSmits: this game has such simple rules, but the tactics are complex
MSmits: which is why i am unsure
struct: so if you play 1 1
struct: blue plays 1 5
struct: forcing 2 5
struct: then blue plays 1 4
struct: and its unstopable
MSmits: it is unstoppable regardless. That wasn't my point though :)
MSmits: I meant is 1 1 a good prune
MSmits: to reduce branching
MSmits: and solve sooner
struct: ah I see
MSmits: there's a lot of these moves in late game
MSmits: if i remove them from consideration i could solve 2-3 plies sooner or something
MSmits: this one is actually too tricky to detect because of the 1 2 and 1 3 loss hexes, but often a hex is completely blocked in all directions, thats easy to detect
MSmits: like 6 6
MSmits: but 6 6 is different because blue can still play there
MSmits: which actually makes it a better move, because you block one of his safe moves
struct: yeah tricky games
struct: sometimes blocking opponent safe moves can be good
struct: even if it does nothing for you short term
MSmits: yeah, i think this is why my bot does really well vs those NN's, they are good at the whole trapping and forcing, for early wins, but the random rollout really works to maximize your safe moves and minimize the opponents
MSmits: of course i use the book to get out of the traps
MSmits: random rolled games often end when safe moves run out so moves that maximize them work well
MSmits: no reason a NN can't learn to do this ofc, but it's hard when during training most games end early.
struct: yeah the game becomes different
MSmits: yeah from what i read about human players, they really like the game until they learn how to avoid traps and most games become a grind to 61 hexes
MSmits: completely changing the game
MSmits: of course AI's are much better at laying traps, but still the progression is similar
eulerscheZahl: hey geppoz, I see you joined yare
struct: hi euler
struct: are you doing cf?
struct: im going to try it for the first time
cheerfuldino: save me
cheerfuldino: HAHAHAHA
cheerfuldino: What tech are yall suing
MSmits: if I had to choose I'd sue facebook, with the genocide and all
struct: maybe twitter could be next
MSmits: possibly
eulerscheZahl: no codeforces, struct. played soccer. way too tired for clear thinking
eulerscheZahl: but i know it's a bigger round today
struct: Maybe I can solve A and B
eulerscheZahl: you surely can
struct: I registered yesterday solved a few problems to practice
eulerscheZahl: up to D it's usually doable with common sense and basic knowledge
struct: I kinda struggle on math ones though
littlebear: ever tried atcoder ?
struct: I haven't
littlebear: ok
eulerscheZahl: i know atcoder by name and played one of their heuristic contests
eulerscheZahl: there are just so many sites out there. I played 1 or 2 contests on codechef
eulerscheZahl: found my account list again
https://clist.by/accounts/?search=eulerschezahl
sologamer1: help
littlebear: just ask :p
sologamer1: I need help on coders strike back
littlebear: which league
sologamer1: It doesnt say league anywhere
eulerscheZahl: it does, at the top left
eulerscheZahl: something like "wood 2"
eulerscheZahl: above the replay viewer
sologamer1: nope
eulerscheZahl: have you submitted any code yet?
sologamer1: i am trying to figure it out
eulerscheZahl: you have some code to start with. but it uses Y twice for the target coordinate
eulerscheZahl: fix this and you are good to go
sologamer1: I just won the first test without moving
sologamer1: the thrust doesn't work.
littlebear: change thrust value to 100
littlebear: in comments or in contributions can we use latex ?
eulerscheZahl: no
sologamer1: The thrusters still dont work when I put in 100 thrust value.
littlebear: ok
littlebear: it should work i think @solo
sologamer1: i'm confused
struct: paste your code here
apcoder: hey can anyone help me with the bot one with collision.I am not understanding anything.
ProCoder03: In what ??
eulerscheZahl: CSB
ProCoder03: CSB ??
eulerscheZahl: you can ignore collisions until you reach gold or even legend
eulerscheZahl: btw I saw you on yare as well ProCoder03. are you playing the contest?
ProCoder03: Well I am just trying....
ProCoder03: Js is kinda hard and new for me !!
eulerscheZahl: new for me as well. but not that hard
eulerscheZahl: just write it as if it's C# and do a quick search if it's wrong
sologamer1: I do need help with the angles of bots
ProCoder03: Okay, That will be easy....
ProCoder03: sologamer1, you will get it as an input...
ProCoder03: nextCheckpointAngle , or something like that..
MSmits: hey struct, i partially coded that pruning thing we discussed. Speeds up solving by a factor of 3 in late games
MSmits: but i still don't know for sure if it is correct
MSmits: it's roughly the same as solving 2 plies sooner
jacek: :+1:
MSmits: I know whats going to happen. I am going to use this in my meta mcts and then after 2 weeks find out the pruning is flawed :P
MSmits: probably should set up some kind of test
struct: wow I solved one problem...
struct: fml
struct: Understanding the statement is something else
struct: nice msmits, you should do tests yeah
Scarfield: why test when you can assume there are no errors and live in blissfull ignorance
Scarfield: also hi :wave:
struct: hi
jacek: struct doesnt read statements?
Scarfield: smitsi probably already setting up his meta mcts
struct: jacek these statements are harder to understand than the problem
struct: at least for me
Scarfield: which statement, what game?
struct: codeforces
RAWAN_REDDY: https://escape.codingame.com/game-session/Mk5-Cvw-4fO-Ixb
MSmits: Scarfield :grin:
jacek: xD
Scarfield: ^
MiyamuraIzumi: cf forcus more on small problem that can be solve within a few hours
MiyamuraIzumi: and yes, I also see that the statements is quite confuse at first
struct: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Scarfield: (╯°□°）╯︵┬─┬
MiyamuraIzumi: °□
jacek: my oh
eulerscheZahl: hey struct
i had that codeforces optim contest where i spent 2 hours just to understand the task
struct: yeah
struct: im not really familiar with this kind of problems
eulerscheZahl: https://codeforces.com/contest/1524/problem/A
struct: I did very poorly
struct: oh god
struct: Also it doenst help when I pass all the test cases
struct: but fail validators
struct: and cant understand why
eulerscheZahl: they have very few tests
eulerscheZahl: and the validators aren't even final. there is the "hacking"
eulerscheZahl: you can lock your code. and then look at the solution of others to find bugs
eulerscheZahl: define your own testcase where you think that other code would fail to get bonus points
struct: ah so that was what the lock was for
struct: I had no idea
struct: :p
struct: ill practice the problem section more before I try it
eulerscheZahl: neither struct nor tobou found as a user
struct: nulte
struct: I only solved A :(
struct: I dindt understand the problems well enough
struct: I took so long on A when I had the right idea from the start
struct: this is completely different from multi on cg
struct: Diferent knowledge required
eulerscheZahl: you did not even play the recent contest
struct: where?
eulerscheZahl: https://codeforces.com/submissions/nulte
struct: I joined cf yesterday
eulerscheZahl: contest: https://codeforces.com/contest/1566/standings
struct: i played the contest
struct: https://i.imgur.com/C7eS5YZ.png
eulerscheZahl: oh, my bad
jrke: i started codechef yesterday
struct: very disapointed performance :p
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/1ryqwqu
eulerscheZahl: found you
struct: how often do they have contests?
Illedan: Every week it feels like from my mail inbox
eulerscheZahl: more like twice a week
eulerscheZahl: soon it's kotlin heroes again
eulerscheZahl: i might play it, i usually do
TheSpooN: what's your cf id?
MSmits: do you have to use kotlin for kotlin heroes? Or is that just a name?
struct: you do
Astrobytes: Use java, intellij and convert to kotlin
MSmits: did not know euler was so familiar with this language
struct: thespoon i think its his same handle as cg one
MSmits: yeah i guess you can convert
Astrobytes: worked for euler :D
Daporan: My shoes are disintegrating, does anyone have some recommendations?
Astrobytes: ^ Question of the Year so far
TheSpooN: what you guys up to today
Pappijx: can someone help with detective geek problem
MSmits: Daporan yes, stop wearing those sports shoes. I used Nikes for like 10-15 years but they are much less durable now than they were before
MSmits: clothing in general but also shoes are made to be less durable. People buy much more clothing than they used to, so the companies adjust to that
MSmits: what you should buy is actual long distance walking shoes. That is what I do now. I can use them for a year
MSmits: nikes will disintegrate in 3 months on average for me
Daporan: Do those have a flat sole?
MSmits: not necessarily I think
Astrobytes: Comprehensive answer.
I swear by Dr. Martens but regardless of shoe always get insoles that are correct for your feet.
MSmits: I am no expert mind you, if you probe me with questions I fall apart
MSmits: real walking shoes is all I'm saying
Astrobytes: (with suitable insoles)
MSmits: last time i had nikes, i used 4 pairs for the price of 1 pair. Every time they broke down within 3 months and i got a new pair for free
struct: Usually i buy sketchers
struct: for walking
Astrobytes: Like I have kinda flat feet, so have certain requirements in order to walk comfortably, suitable insoles help with that.
MSmits: i use those too Astrobytes
struct: They are light and last me for a decent time
eulerscheZahl: in the last Kotlin Heroes rounds I coded and Kotlin directly and didn't convert
MSmits: not flat feet, but no support on the sides, so wobbly i guess
eulerscheZahl: (might be off topic now, was in another tab)
MSmits: yeah euler, this is the feet channel now
MSmits: shooo
Astrobytes: You've levelled up your Kotlin euler :)
Daporan: I get blisters really easily, even with sports shoes
MSmits: same, but walking shoes should not be worse for this
MSmits: compared to sports shoes
eulerscheZahl: i just don't use the more advanced kotlin features. and still look up some syntax when I have to
Daporan: And a lot of shoes squish your toes together causing foot problems in the long run
MSmits: that's me in every language
Astrobytes: Again proper insoles can help with that (the blisters)
eulerscheZahl: and I buy about 2 paris of soccer shoes per year, they don't last that long unfortunately
MSmits: well ok, but you're abusing them a lot playing soccer
MSmits: kicking stuff
MSmits: like, the ball and if you suck, grass, poles and people
eulerscheZahl: and my feet are too wide for their length. is it's either a size too small in width when it first the length or comfortable but with space left at the toes
eulerscheZahl: i'm a bad player. but not THAT bad
MSmits: ok :)
Daporan: what lasts longer usually, the shoes or your shoulder?
eulerscheZahl: :rolling_eyes:
Illedan: My shoulder lost to soccer
eulerscheZahl: i haven't even heard that story Illedan
MSmits: I must have been playing soccer wrong, i never used my shoulders much
Astrobytes: Also have the width/length foot/shoe issue euler
darkhorse64: ankles ?
Astrobytes: :D
struct: my shoe recomendation might not be suited for other countries though
MSmits: do they do flat surfaces differently in your country?
MSmits: is it non-euclidean?
Astrobytes: No such thing as flat in Portugal
eulerscheZahl: does the shoe have Portugal flags all over?
eulerscheZahl: :tp:
eulerscheZahl: :pt:
struct: i mean it probably wont be suitable for your weather conditions
MSmits: rain?
struct: rain snow
struct: I only saw snow when I went to the netherlands
MSmits: we have it sometimes
MSmits: but go to scandinavia for more
MSmits: I think Germany has places with a lot of snow too, like the mountainous regions
MSmits: I've been to Schwarzwald
MSmits: there was snow there...
Astrobytes: Speaking of Portuguese, I learned a new word today: sonhos
eulerscheZahl: is it an insult?
eulerscheZahl: usually insults are the first that you learn in a new language thanks to the internet
Astrobytes: No, it means dreams.
Astrobytes: and (I think) in Portugal some kind of pastry dessert thing
Astrobytes: I learned the insults many years ago from a kitchen full of Brazilians euler
eulerscheZahl: i watched Breaking bad and Narcos
eulerscheZahl: but i find these long plots of 10min+ reading subtitles really annoying
Astrobytes: That's Spanish though
eulerscheZahl: i don't care if it's more realistic, i want to understand it without reading all the time
eulerscheZahl: similar enough. i'm sure that Tobou would understand those insults too
struct: sonhos used as an insult?
Astrobytes: noooo
Astrobytes: re-read
struct: ah
Marchete: learn Spanish, ezpz
struct: Didnt know it was called sonhos
struct: Here we call it "filhoses"
struct: sonhos is also right, might depend on the region
Astrobytes: Yeah, it does I think
Astrobytes: You have the same ones in Brazil
Astrobytes: Certain regions of Brazil
Astrobytes: lol Marchete
Astrobytes: I'm only really (vaguely) familiar with BR Portuguese though
SaadToor: did someone finish this Shadows of the Knight?
SaadToor: episode 1
Astrobytes: Nobody. Ever.
MSmits: SaadToor binary search
SaadToor: but how do i detect where the bomb is?
MSmits: this is a binary search: Mind the dutch print statements
MSmits: https://trinket.io/library/trinkets/84b94682da
MSmits: the computer guesses a number between 0 and X and you have to tell it Higher (H) or Lower(L)
MSmits: and it will keep doing new guesses
MSmits: this is parallel to jumping in the right direction with batman
MSmits: you jump in between the minimum and maximum possible target coordinate
SaadToor: oh, ok
MSmits: so if the bomb can be between x = 0 and x = 10 you jump to (0+10)/2
Astrobytes: reducing the search space
MSmits: same for y coordinate
SaadToor: ok thanks
MSmits: dont forget to keep track of batmans new position after you jump
MSmits: i dont think it gives you in input
Astrobytes: there are hints in the forum thread for it too if you get stuck SaadToor
Astrobytes: I can't remember if it does or not MSmits
SaadToor: oh ok
AntiSquid: the batman puzzle should have another part with sidekick robin !!
MSmits: KAPOW!
Hakyoma: Hi guys, do you know at what time the puzzle of the week end?
struct: not sure
struct: but since its manually changed i would say it probably will be tomorrow morning
Hakyoma: Oh ok
Hakyoma: Time to code baby
MSmits: sure you can code one. That's one way to procreate
MSmits: we do NN's here, so that's a start
Nerchio: CG evolved from MCTS magic to NN magic
Nerchio: :confounded:
MSmits: tbh that looks like a toilet distress emoji
Nerchio: kinda appropriate when we talk about NNs
Nerchio: isnt it
MSmits: yeah I guess :)
struct: would be sad if we were not improving
struct: But still its possible to do decent bots with mcts
struct: at least if you use c++
MSmits: good bots even. Not all games have been taken over by NN. It's mostly the simple boardgames
struct: brb
MSmits: and even then, many boardgames have but 2 or 3 NN's
Astrobytes: ...and then you have Oware...
Illedan: :eyes:
darkhorse64: C4 has already 5 NNs at least
MSmits: yeah C4 is quite popular and really simple
MSmits: same as oware
MSmits: try it on dots and boxes though :)
MSmits: well no, dont please :P
MSmits: just saying it's hard hehe
Illedan: Just don't try it on FB :P
MSmits: I think re curse has
MSmits: not sure if he gave up halfway through or something
Illedan: think so
MSmits: i don't think he really failed though, he just had too much else to work on
Illedan: Yeah, he
Illedan: 's not the type of person that gives up
MSmits: nope, he's his own worst enemy in that way
Illedan: :D
MSmits: I thought noone could be worse than me in this regard, but...
Illedan: i wish I was more like that
Illedan: Though my FB obsession these days might be called something
MSmits: i thought you continuing google contest after the deadline qualified
Illedan: nah
Illedan: FB was my first contest. So I have a lot of motivation on getting 1st
Astrobytes: are you 2nd yet?
Astrobytes: You kept getting 3rd last I checked
Illedan: Look at this run ;)
Illedan: Sooon
Astrobytes: As long as it's working :)
Astrobytes: not speaking about it any more in case I jinx it
Illedan: Jinxed :(
Astrobytes: I'll stfu next time :(
Astrobytes: back to tennis I go...
SandmanSW96: hey all, i saw the new feature in the IDE,
SandmanSW96: if anyone is around lol
AllYourTrees: whats the new feature
SandmanSW96: where it adds a line with "x References | x References"
SandmanSW96: right above a name of a variable, method, etc
AllYourTrees: oh what language?
SandmanSW96: c#
AllYourTrees: nice!
SandmanSW96: lol screw that i wanna switch it off
SandmanSW96: it pops them up on their own,
SandmanSW96: and it takes up a whole line in the IDE of space, really screws me up
SandmanSW96: plus i clicked it and it doesnt do anything anyways
Astrobytes: Try ignoring it
SandmanSW96: kinda hard to ignore it when it randomly adds and deletes whole empty lines right in the middle of my code
Astrobytes: what? Never had that
SandmanSW96: just to put the little "0 references" 'link' that does nothing
Astrobytes: If you can provide an example, post it in Bug Report on discord or make a forum post
SandmanSW96: https://ibb.co/wh32MKh
SandmanSW96: its not a bug i just wanna turn the damn thing off. soon as i type in a new variable name it adds that extra line automatically and it drives me up the damn wall
Astrobytes: You can't disable it. You're gonna have to live with it or use an external editor
Astrobytes: I mean, it's a pretty minor annoyance
SandmanSW96: yeah just when it makes my code jump up and down
SandmanSW96: if not oh well i'll live with it
Astrobytes: Code in your preferred editor, copy paste into CG IDE, win
Astrobytes: Or use one of the sync tools
SandmanSW96: nah i use the IDE here, the ctrl-enter and their particular puzzle etc. thats worth staying here for over that little bugger
SandmanSW96: thats not much of a win either cause i have yet to see it retain the tabs etc the same way
Astrobytes: Fair. I use CG IDE for (most) puzzles, multis I use VS
Astrobytes: hm, what's your usual IDE?
Astrobytes: You can configure the CG IDE to some extent, tabs, spaces etc
SandmanSW96: nothing special for external
SandmanSW96: its all good. was just wondering if I could shut the stupid thing off
SandmanSW96: thx
Astrobytes: Unfortunately yer stuck with it!
Astrobytes: No probs
Illedan: :dance:
Illedan: :)
Astrobytes: ::no_mouth:
Illedan: :P
Illedan: I guess it might fall below 2nd. Just never been 2nd during submit before
Astrobytes: What you tweaking?
Illedan: Everything
Astrobytes: :D
Astrobytes: Now that just smells like desperation :P
Illedan: Ofc
Astrobytes: :rofl:
Samzok123: hi
Illedan: Problem now is that I'm close at beating reCurse, so I can't settle with this
Astrobytes: Naturally. But all gains are good gains.
Astrobytes: :no_mouth: but :+1:
Illedan: I just need 100 more lines of spell detection now
Illedan: https://www.codingame.com/replay/580369437
Illedan: Looks nice though :D
Astrobytes: Do me proud. If Medvedev wins the tennis and you get your good placement it's a win for me
Astrobytes: Oof. That was beastly!
darkhorse64: Wow! Using accio to catapult a snaffle with another snaffle
darkhorse64: gn all
Astrobytes: gn man, take it easy
Astrobytes: Well Medvedev won the tennis, your turn Illedan :D
Illedan: :P
Astrobytes: You've done some nice damage points-wise
Illedan: Yeah, they were around 42 some days ago :P
Astrobytes: hehehehe
Illedan: Ended in crash and burn :(
Astrobytes: No matter, it still looked like an improvement
Astrobytes: tweak something else and leave the last tweak alon
Astrobytes: e
Astrobytes: #spam4life
Allison: bad spammer, Astro! :O
Allison: I feel dumb. Just starring at this puzzle makes me feel dumb. :<
Allison: So does misspelling starting. : | Makes me feel even more dumb.
Allison: staring* omg I quit with words today.
JustinZhang: the easy puzzle is hard
JustinZhang: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1961871209e706a924adfdc21a4146bc5cd23dd
JustinZhang: could somebody join my clash?
JustinZhang: plz
JustinZhang: Husoski won
JustinZhang: I think i should learn more about string
Husoski: If it's in Python or Java, there are good tutorial/practice problems at codingbat.com
JustinZhang: this is the first time i know that when I refresh the page all of my chat will disappear
Wontonimo: what are you working on JustinZhang ?
MiyamuraIzumi: it means we don't have chat history in CG
MiyamuraIzumi: Hi Wontonimo, when iteragrate solver into MCTS, do we need to remove UCT formular?
Wontonimo: hey Miyam! keep the UCB formula.
Wontonimo: the UCB is still used for selection when a solution hasn't been found
Wontonimo: when a solution has been found, UCB is skipped
Wontonimo: and just backprop the solution
MiyamuraIzumi: thank you :)
Wontonimo: how are you implementing keeping track of solved? I use +/- infinity, and some people use a whole other variable
MiyamuraIzumi: I have problem when itergare solver
MiyamuraIzumi: so not finish yet
Wontonimo: ah.
MiyamuraIzumi: actually,
MiyamuraIzumi: I will use a flag, so a whole variable
Wontonimo: starting with just vanilla mcts, what changes are you making?
MiyamuraIzumi: ?
MiyamuraIzumi: I add a status variable to a node
Wontonimo: how have you changed the 4 core functions : select, expand, rollout, backprop?
ProCoder03: Good Morning !!
Wontonimo: hey ProCoder03 !
ProCoder03: Hi Wontonimo
Wontonimo: what are you working on?
ProCoder03: sorry!! was afk..
ProCoder03: I am working on Scrabble
Wontonimo: i don't even remember completing this
Wontonimo: oh, i remember now that i'm looking at my code
ProCoder03: Got it to work:smiley:
Wontonimo: +1
ProCoder03: Next one target, is Mayan Calculation
ProCoder03: It seems I have already started it :astonished:
Wontonimo: that one was pretty fun
struct: hi
Wontonimo: :wave: :wave:
struct: are you working on anything Wontonimo?
Wontonimo: nope
Wontonimo: i've been "thinking" about stuff though
struct: hmm
struct: what kind of stuff
Wontonimo: making multis. the physics ones i've told you about
Wontonimo: rag doll boxing
struct: Ah nice
Wontonimo: using verlet physics
struct: JUst remember that sdk has some limitations
ProCoder03: what heck of physics is it ??
Wontonimo: in verlet physics, you only model points and lines
Wontonimo: points have mass, momentum, velocity
Wontonimo: lines connect points and maintain constraints of distance using a dampened elastic force
Wontonimo: and that's it
ProCoder03: :scream: I am dumb stricken now...
ProCoder03: why do you guys do such hard multis ??
Wontonimo: what would you suggest as a multi?
ProCoder03: Something which is less of physics that this....
struct: There are a few "easy" multis
ProCoder03: Those are for u guys,
struct: Also it can be easy to code but hard to progress
struct: games like connect 4 should not be extremely hard
ProCoder03: I am still stuck in wood in most...
struct: its fine
ProCoder03: And I suck at writing simulators..
ProCoder03: so C4 is kinda tough for me...
struct: I see
ProCoder03: I have written one sim, TTT for wood 1
ProCoder03: that too very sub optimal..
ProCoder03: using 8 if else...
Wontonimo: i find coding a simulator the most tedious part. if i already had a good simulator for all the multis, i'd probably have a submission for them all
struct: simulator is the most enjoyable part for me
struct: But thats because I end up trying to optimize it
struct: Then Im stuck in that loop for the rest of the contest
ProCoder03: How do you guys do it ?? I start writing a sim and I just get stuck after doing 2 or 3 simulation method
struct: depends on the game
struct: also on the algorithm
ProCoder03: I tried for CvZ like 2 months ago..
struct: Did you finish the sim?
ProCoder03: I wrote for Zombie and Zombie point system...
ProCoder03: then got stuck what to do
struct: I did random search
struct: so I play the game until the end and check the score
struct: if its better than the best score I keep that solution
ProCoder03: Even That needs a sim right ??
struct: yes
struct: I only do sims
struct: Probably fb is the only one i do if else
struct: might be a few more but i haven tried a lot of games
ProCoder03: Ohh.... Cool...
Wontonimo: my space shooter isn't a sim
ProCoder03: You have told me...
Wontonimo: but yes, generally sim is the way to go
ProCoder03: Ikt, But how to write a sim without getting stuck...
ProCoder03: That's my problem..
Wontonimo: ah
Wontonimo: my wife just saw a mouse in the house :(
struct: o.o
struct: burn it
Wontonimo: i used to have a cat for these problems
Wontonimo: my dog doesn't care
ProCoder03: Buy a cat then
struct: Do cats really hunt them?
struct: I never had a cat so idk
Wontonimo: depends on the cat. a farm cat is worth 1000 mouse traps per week
Wontonimo: a show cat that isn't let outside and was raised in a basement by a breeder ... useless
Wontonimo: i may borrow a neighbours cat
struct: lol
struct: Is that a thing?
struct: borrowing neighbors cats
Wontonimo: i'll make it a thing
struct: :D
Wontonimo: cuz i sure don't want to buy one
Wontonimo: don't get me wrong, i loved my last three cats. i'm just trying to downsize the zoo we have here.
Wontonimo: and uninvited new animal as of today
struct: never had to hunt rats
Wontonimo: mice (hopefully not rats)
Wontonimo: hopefully just 1 mouse and not mice
struct: and hopefully not pregnant
Wontonimo: oh, thanks. i didn't think of that
struct: lol
Wontonimo: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
struct: im messing with you Wontonimo
struct: sorry :(
Wontonimo: haha
Wontonimo: it's all good
struct: im sure it will be fine
Wontonimo: it's not the first time. won't be the last. i do live very close to a lot of wilderness, so it is expected
struct: it seems china has over 2 billion rats
struct: you will be fine
Westicles: custom game of life
Westicles: potw
struct: seems easy enough
struct: ill try it tomorrow
Wontonimo: nearly midnight. gn all
struct: gn
JustinTruong: wow i love codingame
