GamingKiller006: hi
KamalOS: why can't message people in private?
KamalOS: There was a button next to follow?
KamalOS: for "message private"
davilla: you can if they're in chat
KamalOS: thanks
gilufin: I think only if they follow you
Tiramon: just click on the name of a person in chat and a pm will open up KamalOS
Tiramon: same for the user list in the bottom of the chat
KamalOS: ok thanks all
KamalOS: but how to tag sm1
like u tag me Tiramon
KamalOS: + I saw sm1 in Clash of Code multiple times
He got 1st place in all of them
but he is not sharing his code
so I want to message him
jacek: :c
KamalOS: Anyway
How can I tag sm1 here in chat?
davilla: well he might be a bot, I don't know for sure
davilla: but there's not a lot of activity at this time, typically
davilla: otherwise, there's a chat for the clash
davilla: if you type his name, it will alert him
davilla: like when I say KamalOS
KamalOS: ok tnx davilla
gigolo: X)
poweroverwhelming: @lysk
Whatar: So if you are levl 20 you can approve contributions?
Whatar: maybe I didn't quite understand the conversation
Whatar: enlighten me
davilla: if you are level 20 you can approve puzzles
davilla: not sure at what level you can approve clash of code, but that comes first
Uljahn: have to play 50 clashes
Uljahn: not private
davilla: ah, there ya go
davilla: so I guess it's possible that it doesn't come first !? that would be odd
vunjes: hello everyone
cheeze2000: :flag_pt::flag_pt::flag_pt::flag_pt::flag_pt::flag_pt:
KiwiTae: o/
I-Am-Programming: Hello
TobiasA: :sleepy:
JustAProgrammer01234: print('Hello')
TobiasA: the morrow is today
TobiasA: hooray
TobiasA: bonjour
TobiasA: c'mon cava
TobiasA: ?
JustAProgrammer01234: print('I speak in english lmfao')
TobiasA: print(me.language==english)
TobiasA: True
TobiasA: print(me.language==french)
TobiasA: False
Tannazsh: hey
Tannazsh: hi hru all i'm new here
Tannazsh: can someone tell me how can i get around here ?
Manchi_o6o7: someone who could help me with directories in C
Manchi_o6o7: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/89d2c2de-7b16-4206-9d32-c7c138656802
Manchi_o6o7: it isn't printing anything
davilla: what is unos.txt ?
Manchi_o6o7: there I get the input form
davilla: do you know if it's reading any input?
Manchi_o6o7: I know what is wrong. The memory allocation for the stirng arrays
Manchi_o6o7: char *brand=(char*)malloc(count), this is holding only one char?
Manchi_o6o7: it should be an array of char pointers dynamically. If I am not mistaken.
davilla: wow, I would not have gotten that
Manchi_o6o7: Is it the case, what do you think?
davilla: sorry I can read C/C++ but I get lost with some of that
Manchi_o6o7: :(
Pinux: whats a language worth learning?
davilla: C# isn't bad
KalamariKing: Tannazsh wdym?
Bellololol: Japanese :)
Bellololol: haHAA
KalamariKing: ?
gigolo: o/
KalamariKing: Oh hello gigolo
gigolo: hi
KalamariKing: which reminds me nice work with the weekly puzzle struct
Intp: anyone wanna play a coding escape game.
gigolo: yeahhh
Manchi_o6o7: Guys, what could be the problem. The first time I excuted my C code, it worked. Completly fine reading from a .txt. The second time I compiled it and it won't print. The code is the same.
gigolo: check the input file
Manchi_o6o7: it is the same
DaNinja: whats it supposed to do?
Manchi_o6o7: to read %s %s %d
Manchi_o6o7: I can paste the code, if it helps
DaNinja: why realloc every line?
Manchi_o6o7: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/e7342664-b323-43c1-ae5b-c48c97cdcd12
Manchi_o6o7: just playing wiht it
Manchi_o6o7: practicing for an exam
Manchi_o6o7: someone?
DaNinja: when you realloc *array then you cant print array[count-1]
DaNinja: dont realloc every line
Manchi_o6o7: how should I do it, because I don't know how much lines will be there
DaNinja: you want to store all the lines into an array?
Manchi_o6o7: array of structs
Manchi_o6o7: dynamically
Passifi: does anyone know why its called big endian if it actually ends on the least significant byte ? This throws me for a loop everytime ^^ it doesn't end on big it ends on little :scream:
Manchi_o6o7: it starts on the big hahahahah
Passifi: ohhh so now I get it the end of the data is stored in the little memory location... this is just such a confusing way to call things ... ^^ Somebody needs to reform computer speech asap
RoboStac: Manchi_o6o7 - you are can't do a realloc on a pointer that isn't currently allocated (eg line 16 you realloc array[count-1].brand and thats currently an undefined pointer as it's never been assigned)
Manchi_o6o7: array=(PHONE*)realloc(array,(count+1)*sizeof(PHONE));
Manchi_o6o7: isn't this part allocating it
Manchi_o6o7: I solved it
Manchi_o6o7: without the allocation of struct parts, it works
RoboStac: thats allocating the pointer to the structures. The pointers inside the structures are still undefined
Manchi_o6o7: got it
Manchi_o6o7: thanks a lot
Manchi_o6o7: if someone wants to see how it works
Manchi_o6o7: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/87fd1af6-9f22-443b-82c4-fa9b682639c3
KalamariKing: And we back, howdy all
KalamariKing: Someone explain Python to me: what is the difference between int() and math.floor() for positive numbers
Manchi_o6o7: floor takes the bottom of a floating point number
Manchi_o6o7: floor(8.6)=8
Manchi_o6o7: the difference is only with negative numbers
Manchi_o6o7: int(8.6)=8
Manchi_o6o7: floor(-5.5)=-6
Manchi_o6o7: int(-5.5)=-5
KalamariKing: I knew about the negative difference, but why does it give a different response?
Astrobytes: 'bottom part'
KalamariKing: Dealing with absolute values, so it would all be positive
KalamariKing: Replacing int() with floor() passed test cases int() would not
Astrobytes: -6 < -5.5, -5 > -5.5, hence floor returns the former
KalamariKing: Hmm, thanks
KalamariKing: That makes more sense
KalamariKing: Imagine switching classes in the middle of a clash and wasting 10 minutes of precious time to get back and nobody's done
azriel1rf: How can I suppress badge count for community?
struct: Which badges?
jacek: click them
jacek: the contributions page
azriel1rf: thanks
struct: What was he talking about jacek?
jacek: when theres new contribution theres badge in community tab
azriel1rf: anyway, the count seems not related to me. what does it mean?
struct: new contributions
azriel1rf: all the new post?
struct: number of new contributions
struct: yes
azriel1rf: thanks
azriel1rf: *in my opinion*, it's useful to count only post related to me such as reply or comment to my post.
azriel1rf: or, it can be selectable all the post or related to me
MSmits: I know you don't mean it like that, but this sounds funny to me :P
jacek: hm?
MSmits: it's like you're saying: Hey, I got to this forum and people were talking about something other than me, whats up with that
azriel1rf: :thinking:
MSmits: again, i know you dont mean that, but i read it like that at first :P
azriel1rf: We can select
azriel1rf: We can select "world" tab and specific user.
Kitkat260: hey MSmits
MSmits: hey Kitkat260
jacek: https://i1.kwejk.pl/k/obrazki/2021/04/tgCuOuLvK7k1qudc.jpg
i_m_Bot: hey
Klap: sup
KalamariKing: Howdy
KalamariKing: What if we used a genetic nn to determine nn node nums
jacek: in other words, neuroevolution
KalamariKing: Is that a thing
jacek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroevolution
KalamariKing: its big brain time
bossyboots: hello
Astrobytes: Stop.
Astrobytes: Hammertime!
Westicles: jacek, that sounds like all those professors in the 80s trying to make AI bugs
Marchete: :regional_indicator_n::regional_indicator_e::regional_indicator_u::regional_indicator_r::regional_indicator_o::regional_indicator_e::regional_indicator_v::regional_indicator_o::regional_indicator_l::regional_indicator_u::regional_indicator_t::regional_indicator_i::regional_indicator_o::regional_indicator_n:
jacek: huh
Marchete: == crappy GA that does sh*t on multi AIs
jacek: you tried?
darkhorse64: you can also write a GA to tune the weights of your NN but it does not look like an optimal way to train
jacek: or NN topology - numbers of layers, nodes etc
jacek: good luck tuning millions of parameters
Marchete: why a GA? it can be any other search arlgo
Marchete: algo*
KalamariKing: Right but a GA will slowly hone in on parameters, plus I'm not too familiar with other algos
jacek: GA is smart brute force. brute forcing thousands or millions parameters is a no-no
Marchete: anyone knows about Span<T> and Memory<T> on C# .Net?
Marchete: I'm a bit out of the loop
jacek: try writing inside the loop's { }
Astrobytes: :expressionless:
Marchete: solved! thanks jacek :D
eulerscheZahl: these seem to convert into low-level code like SIMD iirc
eulerscheZahl: wanted to test them at a recent topcoder marathon. but they still use Mono and an older C# version
eulerscheZahl: and don't even compile with unsafe
eulerscheZahl: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
eulerscheZahl: also congrats struct for you puzzle of the 3 days
eulerscheZahl: for your*
jacek: of 3 days? will it change?
eulerscheZahl: contest starts soon
KalamariKing: Oh sick
KalamariKing: 3 days lets go
jacek: yeah, who wants a puzzle of the week during contest
eulerscheZahl: exactly rotated jacek
eulerscheZahl: kjace
jacek: ajcke
Marchete: if euler doesn't know them we are doomed
Astrobytes: kja... ffs
eulerscheZahl: I saw djoums using the Span<T> in some published solutions
Marchete: btw .Net makes working with AVX2 a piece of cake
Marchete: Span is like a pointer + size
Marchete: like a window to manipulate stuff
Astrobytes: Ah, the clue is in the name I guess
Marchete: I ported my NN to .net fairly good
Marchete: and with a good performance
ChavyMush31: this website is jank init mush
Marchete: but a lot of websites praise about Memory<T> and Span<T> and I'm a bit old
Marchete: I'm like C# 2.0
Astrobytes: No ChavyMush31
ChavyMush31: :(
eulerscheZahl: i recently used the interface implementation to get something like multiple inheritance
ZarthaxX: toooooooooooad
eulerscheZahl: foooox
KalamariKing: ChavyMush31 First off, why, I think this site is quite great. Much less toxic than, say, s/o
Second off could you say that in english
ZarthaxX: damn bear sounded better
ZarthaxX: :(
ZarthaxX: multiple inheritance doesnt sound good
ChavyMush31: yo my mums a shoe stylllllll
ZarthaxX: ban?
ChavyMush31: yo mans a boxennit
eulerscheZahl: kick
ZarthaxX: damn
Astrobytes: Ban next time
eulerscheZahl: i'm out of shape, let's start slowly ;)
Astrobytes: Upping your kill count before the contest euler? :D
Astrobytes: hehehe
ZarthaxX: lol
eulerscheZahl: anyone with a highly efficient BFS on a hex board for me?
ZarthaxX: nope
KalamariKing: Seems the trolls are out today
ZarthaxX: if its a small hex boeard you could apply bitboards
ZarthaxX: e.e
eulerscheZahl: s/today/toady
Marchete: hex? why hex?
Astrobytes: :D
Marchete: the new contest has it?
ZarthaxX: yes Marchete
ZarthaxX: 3 hex boards in parallel
eulerscheZahl: maybe, i have such a feeling
Marchete: then I'm out
Marchete: I hate hex
eulerscheZahl: no, just 1
ChavyMush31: hi guys
ZarthaxX: :rofl:
ChavyMush31: im sorry
ZarthaxX: wait, the contest is a hex board?
Astrobytes: ChavyMush31: Ban if you continue
ZarthaxX: no joke?
ChavyMush31: sorry blud mans got back yanno
ChavyMush31: no im sory
ZarthaxX: wtf
ChavyMush31: sorry
eulerscheZahl: i'm serious. but obviously i don't have any insider knowledge
Astrobytes: Yes, I am aware that you got back.
ZarthaxX: im not liking how this is turning out
ZarthaxX: :D
Astrobytes: He's just talking like a roadman
ZarthaxX: AstroShame
eulerscheZahl: even Automaton2000 is more coherent
Automaton2000: guys i have a project to work on the code
eulerscheZahl: MK sometimes is
ZarthaxX: meanwhile im trying to enter into an IT Bootcamp iof a big company here
ZarthaxX: gonna mess with my cg contest schedule
Marchete: 11000 registered?
ChavyMush31: mans a ford focus styll
Marchete: like wth
ChavyMush31: mans mum is a box yanno
ZarthaxX: Marchete but not all of them appear :P
ChavyMush31: mans a drill artist stylllllll
ChavyMush31: boogey bano
ChavyMush31: bando
eulerscheZahl: i won't defend him if you do what you think about doing Astrobytes
ChavyMush31: my sister is bandokay
Marchete: can you ban him?
eulerscheZahl: he did
Astrobytes: Done.
KalamariKing: epic
ZarthaxX: good
KalamariKing: How would you go about traversing a hex board though?
Marchete: perfection
Astrobytes: Why he feels the need to talk like an inner city London roadman I do not know. Innit blud, get me
ZarthaxX: you can represent it in a matrix KalamariKing
eulerscheZahl: just BFS with more neighboring cells
ZarthaxX: take each row and shift it
ZarthaxX: you can look it up online :P
Marchete: pick the referee and do a heavy C&P
ZarthaxX: ^
eulerscheZahl: coders of the caribbean
Astrobytes: https://www.redblobgames.com/grids/hexagons/
eulerscheZahl: that's the link from the CotC statement
ZarthaxX: that's the one ^
ZarthaxX: it's perfect
eulerscheZahl: (not "code of the rings" here)
Astrobytes: Yeah, Amit's explanations on that site are pretty comprehensive and easy to follow.
KalamariKing: Ok thanks
KalamariKing: I'm still quite new to some of these challenges :(
Astrobytes: Everyone was at some point ;)
KalamariKing: Are there leaderboards for coc
Astrobytes: Yep.
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/leaderboards/clash/global
eulerscheZahl: i'm at 5794 there
eulerscheZahl: :trophy:
Astrobytes: My hero
p0int3r: 2
p0int3r: beast ,keep it up :clap:
Westicles: I've been beta testing the contest, very tricky
eulerscheZahl: i bet against
Astrobytes: He lies.
eulerscheZahl: (the beta-testing part, not the tricky one)
Westicles: hex grid, you buy acorns to capture grid spaces. global warming cards to counter
Astrobytes: I gotta say though, your daily variants have been rather good :)
Westicles: oh, they are telling me not to talk about it. disregard
eulerscheZahl: just climb the damn hex tree and reach the center
jacek: hex eh?
eulerscheZahl: https://twitter.com/tsukammo/status/1377627181506048013
Westicles: Actually, the real surprise is they pulled in some schedules and it is an escape room!
Astrobytes: I know for a fact that the contest is a game.
eulerscheZahl: see the tree from top, then it's a hey board
Astrobytes: A hey board eh
jacek: oh my
eulerscheZahl: your what?
jacek: yes
eulerscheZahl: your tilt?
Westicles: Ah, the old My Neighbor Totoro: Aruite Sagaso Totoro`s Dondoko Game (2019)
jacek: https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aLpzMYM_460svvp9.webm
eulerscheZahl: "old", "2019"
don't make be feel old again
Illedan: jacek, how big is your network for Oware?
jacek: 1 hidden layer of 48 units
Illedan: That's it?
Astrobytes: Wow jacek, a relevant anime clip
jacek: of course theres input and output layer :v
Illedan: Yeye :P
jacek: but yeah, from NN point its pretty small
Illedan: My 96x2 is failing vs the one without any hidden layer
jacek: and 820 possible inputs
Illedan: 820?
Illedan: 1 for every amount of beads?
eulerscheZahl: beads? :bed:
Illedan: Oware beads
jacek: 12 houses 0..31, * 2 for the side to move, then 2 * 0..25 for the scores
Astrobytes: *seeds
eulerscheZahl: grains
Illedan: hmmm
Illedan: thx
jacek: that gives about 40k weights in my NN
Illedan: I have 14 inputs :D
jacek: as you can see, every state has exactly 14 activated 'ones', the rest being zero
jacek: one-hot inputs
Illedan: Makes sense
jacek: though the score inputs could be made into scaled [0-1]
Marchete: ahh, you have single inputs
Marchete: one-hot or whatever
Marchete: that's one thing I hate on NN
Marchete: it seems so clunky
Marchete: having normalized isn't good?
Marchete: asking for a friend
KalamariKing: It's not bad, but the network can't be unsure
KalamariKing: If its not precise enough, it will give wrong answers
KalamariKing: Whereas with one-hot, it can be anywhere from 0.00001 to 0.9999 as long as its higher than the other values, giving more accurate answers
BlaiseEbuth: Hello there.
Astrobytes: hii
jacek: Marchete i could probably get away with normalized input for the scores. as for the houses, 0 seed house or 1 seed house is much different from 5 seed house
KalamariKing: e.x. 10 outputs -- a difference of 0.1 would become wrong for normalization, but not one-hot, if that makes more sense
Marchete: one hot is for separating independent data that doesn't fit into a gradient
jacek: so i treat it differently, like different 'chess piece'
Marchete: but I thought seed count was some kind of gradient
Illedan: I guess the exact amount is too important
jacek: in scores. in houses no.
jacek: maybe for 3+ seeds in house
Illedan: Is 31 the max amount of seeds on 1 house?
Marchete: then when you have a grid game the one-hot will explode
Marchete: that's not scalable at all
Illedan: This is where CNN comes to play :P
jacek: no but i assumed that. any <31 will be 31, its very rare
Marchete: CNN is slow af
KalamariKing: Not always
KalamariKing: Some cnn's can be pretty fast
jacek: Marchete yeah its not scalable, but sufficient for most of my purposes
Marchete: CNN compared to MLP is slow af*
eulerscheZahl: like this CNN? https://www.youtube.com/user/CNN
RoboStac: I just pass raw seed numbers into mine and it works pretty well
jacek: needs more friendshipp
jacek: oO
Marchete: RoboStac, I'm interested in your POV :D
Illedan: :D
Marchete: because you have a more Alphazero like
jacek: you pass not normalized 10, 20?
Marchete: so passing raw numbers?
RoboStac: yeah, 14x floats that are the exact values in each house / score
Marchete: it seems weird
jacek: and its MLP?
Marchete: then you have some layers and a policy and value?
KalamariKing: Also; for hexagons, do you all prefer a 2d grid with shifted rows or a 3-axis representation? Which is easier to program and which is easier to conceptualize, would you say?
KalamariKing: jacek multilayer perceptron
RoboStac: 3x dense layers of 96 node and then 6 policy outputs / 1 value
Marchete: so all is shared until the last dense
Josephtulaferme: https://www.codingame.com/servlet/urlinvite?u=3667471
jacek: see? and i need only 1 dense layer :*
KalamariKing: Marchete what's the difference between cnn and mlp then? They look rather similar to me
Marchete: CNN predict/inference takes more computation time
eulerscheZahl: an invite code to join codingame? shared on a chat that's only accessible when you already have an account? great plan Josephtulaferme
jacek: CNN treats input as image and has image manipulation stuff
KalamariKing: eulerscheZahl just gonna say that
RoboStac: I'm not sure if I've tried less layers
KalamariKing: jacek But what about cnns and mlps with other classification problems?
RoboStac: I tried adding one and it didn't help
Marchete: 3x96 seem a lot of nodes
Marchete: I don't think I can fit all
jacek: could be because i have somewhat filtered input
RoboStac: it's only 21032 floats - can probably fit even if they were full 32 bit weights
Marchete: 80KB, maybe with some zip help
Marchete: yes
antis: hi
jacek: i can fit ~14bit float into 1 character
Marchete: no you can't
jacek: so i can fit 70k-80k weights
Marchete: ahh
Marchete: yes
RoboStac: yeah, thats what I do too for the bigger ones - my oware is still 16bit floats in 1/2chars
Marchete: you are talking when sending
Marchete: ok
jacek: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/9f597f9b-6a2b-497d-82ad-c28323d0e8c0
Marchete: I have it prepared https://github.com/marchete/Codingame/tree/master/BinarySend
Marchete: but I went for the binary+model->Zip->Compress
RoboStac: I don't send a binary either, only the weights get converted
Marchete: it's probably better on your way
jacek: RoboStac no input for side to move?
RoboStac: no, it's always passed in with the first 7 values as the current player
jacek: ah, rotation/mirroring
PatrickMcGinnisII: May the 4th be with you
Marchete: training policy and value at the same time is like in Alphazero? What's the best kind of optimizer?
Marchete: because that's a bit blur to me
RoboStac: I've tried RMSProp and Adam and not found any noticeable difference
Marchete: I think I'd get scores and policy train values from endgame + visits or smth like that
Marchete: but the learning rate and these kind of values are a bit confusing, I can't see what is good
RoboStac: every turn during training it stores the visit counts per node for policy and then at the end backprops the game result for value
Marchete: sorry Illedan I kidnapped your question, please continue
Marchete: yeah I had some of your chats saved somewhere
Marchete: from last year :)
jacek: what question
Marchete: I imagine Ille will ask more things
Illedan: No problem good reads. Continue discussing details. Just paste all code too. No worries. I have to pack and go anyway
Marchete: but the one-hot approach was suprising to me and I interrupted him
jacek: oh
KalamariKing: Anyone been asked if they were a robot after clicking Submit?
jacek: too much clashes eh
KalamariKing: Oh I've been playing a lot
KalamariKing: I went to onboarding and started messing around with languages I've never used, and well the C's are all similar so I got them all correct first try lol
KalamariKing: It didn't like that
ZarthaxX: system just doesnt like you to click submit many times in a short period of time
ZarthaxX: :P
KalamariKing: Probably
ZarthaxX: it works like that
KalamariKing: Yeah
KalamariKing: I'm learning that most programming languages are similar
ZarthaxX: well they serve the same prupose
KalamariKing: True
ZarthaxX: but you are using imperative ones
ZarthaxX: if you try functional it will be different
ZarthaxX: or OOP
KalamariKing: Wdym?
ZarthaxX: like true OOP lol
ZarthaxX: just learn haskell
ZarthaxX: you will see
KalamariKing: Challenge accepted
Astrobytes: You'll love it
ZarthaxX: ironic?
Astrobytes: Perhaps. But it is pretty cool. I'm no expert but I find it quite elegant.
ZarthaxX: i like it too
ZarthaxX: :)
ZarthaxX: now kiss me
ZarthaxX: :*
Astrobytes: :kissing_heart:
Astrobytes: :rofl:
ZarthaxX: hurrayyyyyyy
jacek: ghey
Astrobytes: ...said the brony :P
KiwiTae: Astrobytes o/
Astrobytes: hey KiwiTae
ZarthaxX: KWIOWOWOWWOWO
ZarthaxX: hai
Manhar: Hello
KiwiTae: ZarthaxX :* :*
struct: also congrats struct for you puzzle of the 3 days
struct: Who pinged me?
struct: i wasnt here :/
Astrobytes: jacek or euler iirc
struct: thanks
struct: I see that euler is also making an ai for next contest
struct: lets hope he got the game right :)
Astrobytes: hehehe
HoangH7: struct, do you know claass?
struct: thats private
Astrobytes: :smirk:
KalamariKing: struct a couple of us pinged our congrats on the cotw
struct: thanks
jaceey101110: hi
jaceey101110: i new here
KalamariKing: Hello jaceey101110!
jaceey101110: hi are you new
The_ZimaBlue: I am new
The_ZimaBlue: just joined last week
KalamariKing: I am in fact not new
KalamariKing: Hello to you both! Welcome to CG!
TheBatMan_TM: guys help
TheBatMan_TM: I am getting a <Response [500]> when i use put
TheBatMan_TM: it's a python (flask) api, purerly expiremetal (for fun)
TheBatMan_TM: *purely
TheBatMan_TM: code, which is making the error
TheBatMan_TM: source file
TheBatMan_TM: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/eead3e7e-c51a-47f9-9d63-926ea283fc9a
TheBatMan_TM: source file:
TheBatMan_TM: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/3d35a177-439f-470c-b778-5be835abce8e
TheBatMan_TM: ignore the delete method
TheBatMan_TM: it's not edited
TheBatMan_TM: the error thrown: sqlalchemy.exc.IntegrityError: (sqlite3.IntegrityError) UNIQUE constraint failed: name_search_model.name
[SQL: INSERT INTO name_search_model (name, level, region) VALUES (?, ?, ?)]
[parameters: ('KDawg@1', 43, 'India')]
(Background on this error at: http://sqlalche.me/e/14/gkpj)
KalamariKing: Gimme a sec and I'll search it
Camden272: hello people
KalamariKing: Something's wrong with the integrity of the database keys, i.e. check here ig?
KalamariKing: https://stackoverflow.com/a/17643630/8010520
KalamariKing: Howdy, Camden272
eulerscheZahl: going by the error message he just tried to insert the same entry twice
BlaiseEbuth: Srlsy who banned KitKat ? She's crying now. :/
eulerscheZahl: not me. i missed that opportunity unfortunately
TheBatMan_TM: what is it euler?
BlaiseEbuth: Same... :(
eulerscheZahl: name = db.Column(db.String(10), primary_key=1)
TheBatMan_TM: maybe i should recreate the db? @eulerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: that primary thing makes your name a unique key
eulerscheZahl: if you try to enter two values with the same value, you'll get an error
TheBatMan_TM: ok, but when i entered it the first time too i got the same error
eulerscheZahl: (caution, i'm partially guessing, I know some other frameworks like DJango and the Entity Framework but not flask)
TheBatMan_TM: maybe i should recreate the db?
eulerscheZahl: you connect to an existing DB
TheBatMan_TM: ohk they r similar ig
eulerscheZahl: you might already have that entry from before
TheBatMan_TM: yeah, so lemme delete and recreate the db and see
eulerscheZahl: as we are talking about databases:
eulerscheZahl: Hi,
You have used 80% of your 550 free dyno hours for April 2021. The following steps can help you keep your app running smoothly.
TheBatMan_TM: what?
eulerscheZahl: heroku threatens to turn my puzzle search off for the rest of a month if the uptime further increases
eulerscheZahl: for https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/
BlaiseEbuth: Do You Need Ocarinas ?
struct: :(
TheBatMan_TM: hey @eulerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: yes, hi to me :)
TheBatMan_TM: the get() is malfunctioning now
eulerscheZahl: of course, you deleted that entry :D
eulerscheZahl: or even the whole table
TheBatMan_TM: i am getting this {'name': None, 'level': 0, 'region': None}
TheBatMan_TM: no i recreated the table, and the put worked
eulerscheZahl: open the database with an SQL editor
eulerscheZahl: (or how do we call those programs)
TheBatMan_TM: but after "putting" it, i tried to get the same, but it doesn't work
eulerscheZahl: check with an external tool if it's correctly entered in the database
TheBatMan_TM: like i put in this {'level':43,'region':'India'},and i got back (as expected) {'name': 'KDawg@1', 'level': 43, 'region': 'India'}
TheBatMan_TM: but when i tried this requests.get('http://127.0.0.1:5000/name/KDawg@1') it returns {'name': None, 'level': 0, 'region': None}
TheBatMan_TM: i use a test.py file to call these:
TheBatMan_TM: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/b4807739-e1e7-447f-8126-f8f3592af762
KalamariKing: What happens if you try to get a non-existent entry
[0_o]Surya: hello
KalamariKing: Howdy
TheBatMan_TM: no that's what i am saying, i literally accessed (get) the data i just put
[0_o]Surya: is anyone playing ghost in the cell?
KalamariKing: Right, but what happens if you try to get non-existent data
TheBatMan_TM: i think we get back a serializable object with null columns
KalamariKing: So the data being returned is NOT the same as null data? Or it is?
BlaiseEbuth: About 5153 persons [0_o]Surya
eulerscheZahl: or their ghosts spooking on the server
eulerscheZahl: oh, my ghost dropped a rank. who's that nierin guy?
TheBatMan_TM: I think we r supposed to get this when we access non-existent data (and this is what i am getting too) {'name': None, 'level': 0, 'region': None} @KalamariKing
TheBatMan_TM: @eulerscheZahl help me bro
eulerscheZahl: i told you to access the database with a tool outside of your application just to make sure the entry exists in the database as expected
eulerscheZahl: helps to limit the possibilities where it goes wrong
[0_o]Surya: @BlaiseEbuth actually I have a doubt at wood 2 but idk where to ask
eulerscheZahl: here [0_o]Surya
BlaiseEbuth: Just with good questions
BlaiseEbuth: :p
eulerscheZahl: http://how-to-properly-ask-a-question.surge.sh/
TheBatMan_TM: @eulerscheZahl do i have to install the sql setup in pc to do that?
KalamariKing: Where is the data hosted
eulerscheZahl: depends on your database
KalamariKing: A file I presume?
eulerscheZahl: sqlite => get sqliteman or something like that
TheBatMan_TM: i am using flask_sqlalchemy
eulerscheZahl: app.config['SQLALCHEMY_DATABASE_URI'] = 'sqlite:///database.db'
KalamariKing: Where does sqlalchemy store to
TheBatMan_TM: yeah a .db file @KalamariKing
eulerscheZahl: hmm, i don't know what that is :D
eulerscheZahl: oh, db file
eulerscheZahl: great
KalamariKing: So use an external viewer on the file
eulerscheZahl: windows or linux?
TheBatMan_TM: i am running it on repl.it, as i told u i am just experimenting and learning something new
eulerscheZahl: (sorry, I joined late)
TheBatMan_TM: @KalamariKing I am not sure i know how to do that ;p
KalamariKing: eulerscheZahl is it ok to ask to send the repl? I know some communities don't like that
eulerscheZahl: there are command line tools to read the data too. i just don't know how to use them from the top of my head
KalamariKing: If so, TheBatMan_TM send the repl link
TheBatMan_TM: @KalamariKing ok bro
eulerscheZahl: i don't see a problem with the link
KalamariKing: Ok thanks euler
TheBatMan_TM: @eulerscheZahl which link bro?
eulerscheZahl: repl
TheBatMan_TM: oh
TheBatMan_TM: @KalamariKing
KalamariKing
TheBatMan_TM: oops one sec
KalamariKing: lol
TheBatMan_TM: @KalamariKing https://replit.com/@kaushikkalesh/Python-API
KalamariKing: Btw you don't need the @ for pings here TheBatMan_TM I learned that a few days ago
eulerscheZahl: now I have to find trucks to see you code
eulerscheZahl: and you can tab-complete the names
eulerscheZahl: kal[tab] => KalamariKing
TheBatMan_TM: i am new here idk
TheBatMan_TM: I am a hackerrank and codeforces guy, I am kinda new here :upside_down:
KalamariKing: Hey its fine I've only been here a few weeks
eulerscheZahl: i'm on those 2 websites as well but not very active
[0_o]Surya: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/731bec45-5bdc-4277-9684-721e9baa7a47
KalamariKing: btdubs you got two errors, 43 and 44, for unknown references
TheBatMan_TM: ok @KalamariKing , and @eulerscheZahl :disappointed:
TobiasA: i finally completed there is no spoons after 5 months of procrastination
KalamariKing: lmao same
eulerscheZahl: now on to "There is no Spoon 2"
BlaiseEbuth: Can you share a replay [0_o]Surya
TheBatMan_TM: @KalamariKing I know, i haven't edited that part out yet, anyways that doesn't have anything to do with the get query
KalamariKing: TheBatMan_TM try adding a bunch of print statements everywhere, in like every function, with func name and passed data
KalamariKing: See where the data goes and at what point it gets nulled
TheBatMan_TM: that doesn't work too
eulerscheZahl: [0_o]Surya try without the semicolon at the end
KalamariKing: Oh does flask not allow prints?
TobiasA: wait what?!!
TobiasA: what do you mean "2"
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/training/hard/there-is-no-spoon-episode-2
[0_o]Surya: @BlaiseEbuth https://www.codingame.com/replay/545814566
KalamariKing: THERES A PART TWO WHAT
TheBatMan_TM: the method call is handled differently by flask @Kalamariking
amartya9: hello all !
KalamariKing: Helo amartya9
BlaiseEbuth: You've don the easy one, there's the true one now :3
TheBatMan_TM: @KalamariKing, how do i do it without using @?
eulerscheZahl: [0_o]Surya don't listen to BlaiseEbuth and just remove the trailing semicolon
TobiasA: bruuuuuuuuuuuh
TobiasA: i can't do that
KalamariKing: same
KalamariKing: I can't even do those without code
TobiasA: just pretend that one doesn't exist and praise me for my good deed
BlaiseEbuth: What don't listen to me? I did'nt say anything
TheBatMan_TM: @KalamariKing , any other suggestions?
[0_o]Surya: @eulerscheZahl
After removing semicolon:
invalid input. Expected 'A valid action' but found 'MOVE 1 2 1MOVE 1 3 10MOVE 1 4 10MOVE 1 5 5MOVE 1 6 1MOVE 1 0 1'
TheBatMan_TM: I have to virtually see the table ig
BlaiseEbuth: He said "the trailing semicolon"
BlaiseEbuth: Not all
eulerscheZahl: you were supposed to remove the last one
eulerscheZahl: or add a WAIT at the end
TheBatMan_TM: but how do i do that online? as i have saved it in a file
KalamariKing: TheBatMan_TM same as normal, without the @ sign, pretty ez
TobiasA: now my next mission is to win one more fastest mode in coc to get 50 xp
TheBatMan_TM: ok just KalamariKing then?
KalamariKing: TheBatMan_TM try this, and yeah :P
KalamariKing: https://stackoverflow.com/a/13053474/8010520
TobiasA: guess i know what i will be doing for the next 7 months
KalamariKing: lol
eulerscheZahl: and you want to select * instead of "blah"
KalamariKing: Yeah
KalamariKing: That
TheBatMan_TM: KalamariKing , but that's for sqlite right?
KalamariKing: Yeah, run apt-get install sqlite in the repl shell and then continue with that answer (still in repl shell)
[0_o]Surya: @
BlaiseEbuth,@
eulerscheZahl
It worked than you
gigolo: lol for a clash there is only 4 numbers in that range are becomes true i could use that in shortest :\
KalamariKing: Wdym
gigolo: perfect numbers
gigolo: from 1 to 10^4
KalamariKing: I hated that one
KalamariKing: Hated with a passion
gigolo: only 4 numbers are perfrct
KalamariKing: Wait really
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/651789449e93074a18414d66669d538c3524
gigolo: yeah :D
KalamariKing: Awwh f in the chat
KalamariKing: I spent so long on that
eulerscheZahl: you only need 6=perfect
eulerscheZahl: rest isn't covered by validators
KalamariKing: :'(
gigolo: :\
TheBatMan_TM: KalamariKing something like this? python -c "import sqlite3; print(sqlite3.connect('database.db').cursor().execute('SELECT * FROM SQLALCHEMY_DATABASE_URI ').fetchall())"
eulerscheZahl: SQLALCHEMY_DATABASE_URI
i don't think that that's your table name
KalamariKing: TheBatMan_TM there should be a shell tab. It's literally just a bash shell, for the repl virtual machine. Type sudo apt-get install sqlite3
KalamariKing: And then run sqlite [name].db
TheBatMan_TM: no i got it this works:
KalamariKing: And then you can simply type in the 'SELECT * FROM ... ' stuff straight into the shell
TheBatMan_TM: python -c "import sqlite3; print(sqlite3.connect('database.db').cursor().execute('SELECT * FROM name_search_model').fetchall())"
TheBatMan_TM: ok KalamariKing
KalamariKing: I mean, it will work, but I find it easier to work straight from shell
TheBatMan_TM: KalamariKing, it shows that the record is inserted but still the get doesn't work why?
KalamariKing: Could be something with the keyword, idk
KalamariKing: Does a different library work on the database?
TheBatMan_TM: idk
TheBatMan_TM: it SHOULD work, but idk y it isn't
GeorgiD: 5 2 2 1 1 -> 216
5 4 3 -> 120
GeorgiD: What's the pattern?
GeorgiD: 2 1 1 -> 12
TheBatMan_TM: KalamariKing, wait i got it
TheBatMan_TM: I didn't use filter_by().first()
TheBatMan_TM: now it works
KalamariKing: GeorgiD I really don't know
TheBatMan_TM: thanks a lot for your help anyways
KalamariKing: Ofc
TheBatMan_TM: :slight_smile:
KalamariKing: What we're here for
KalamariKing: :)
TheBatMan_TM: ty
TheBatMan_TM: bye
eulerscheZahl: any more samples GeorgiD?
GeorgiD: 2 2 2 -> 27
GeorgiD: And 1 1 -> 4
GeorgiD: No one in my lobby got it
eulerscheZahl: (x+1) multiplied
eulerscheZahl: (2+1) * (2+1) * (2+1)
KalamariKing: oh my god
GeorgiD: No way, now I feel stupid loll
KalamariKing: euler you're a genius
GeorgiD: Thank you
struct: euler knows all the clashes by hearth
eulerscheZahl: nope
KalamariKing: oh hello structure
eulerscheZahl: and i even figured that one out myself as the puzzle search failed me
eulerscheZahl: 35 results
eulerscheZahl: ah, found it
https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/492619db4ca493582e84582afb3c4320544d
KalamariKing: yes finally a legend achievement
eulerscheZahl: 15 puzzles with the same language?
Smelty: hm...yinsh as a weekly puzle
Digginwings: yello
BlaiseEbuth: sup
BlaiseEbuth: marine
BlaiseEbuth: \o/
Digginwings: oy mate
Digginwings: what do be doin
Smelty: hello
Digginwings: smell ty ay
Smelty: lol
Digginwings: auto coret is bad
Digginwings: hey i beat you in the puzzle of the week
Smelty: congrats
Smelty: in case you didnt know, i just made a random ai
Smelty: xD
Digginwings: thank u it means so much
Digginwings: :joy:
XeroOl: hello how are you guys doing
KalamariKing: Ugh
XeroOl: good morning or afternoon or evening
KalamariKing: Afternoon for me
Smelty: :rofl:
Smelty: morning for me
Digginwings: morning
KalamariKing: The most boring teacher of the day has a 'fun' 60 slide presentation lined up for the next hour and a half
XeroOl: exciting
XeroOl: how does one get to the top 2% of the bot leaderboard lol
Digginwings: guess how old i am
XeroOl: I'm going to guess 20
KalamariKing: 116 years 40 days
XeroOl: I like that guess
KalamariKing: You're this guy
Digginwings: im 12
KalamariKing: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.3D3ZeE02krAZssU2DSIeNgHaLH%26pid%3DApi%26h%3D160&f=1
KalamariKing: Digginwings so many younger folk here... not much older here, but pretty young for such good coding! Pretty impressive!
Digginwings: thank u
Westicles: Advertising on boxes of pop tarts really payed off for CG
KalamariKing: Wait did they really
BlaiseEbuth: baby diapers are next
KalamariKing: Btdubs is it faster to use sqrt or fractional exponents
Hjax: man reading old code you wrote
Hjax: makes you question your sanity
KalamariKing: ikr? recently redid onboarding in a different language... seeing the old code was rough
Hjax: the question is was i insane before, or am i insane now
BlaiseEbuth: Why not both?
Hjax: its entirely possible
KalamariKing: Hjax you're more insane, faster
Digginwings: this is a game i made:https://github.com/Diggingwings/DinoZBash
KalamariKing: Digginwings that's pretty cool ngl
Digginwings: thank u
KalamariKing: I've neber written a game, so you got one on me ;)
KalamariKing: never*
Digginwings: i made another game but need to debug it
KalamariKing: oh lol
KalamariKing: debugging sucks, always
Matronx: nice game, you need to start organizing your repository
KalamariKing: Anyone know Python here?
Philbot: are there any good articles on MCTS applied in multiplayer games ?
VizGhar: jeez... you haven't learned you have to ask right away KalamariKing? :)
eulerscheZahl: http://how-to-properly-ask-a-question.surge.sh/
i always have (3) crossed out
Hjax: i do
eulerscheZahl: i still need (4) for my bingo
Hjax: back in the day the #python channel on the freenode server had the description "Don't ask to ask"
Hjax: meaning, dont go "hey can i ask a question" just say your question
KalamariKing: Well this is main and idk if you all write strictly F#
KalamariKing: However
eulerscheZahl: we just flood with channel with whatever comes to our mind
Philbot: figures
eulerscheZahl: i know that I wrote this wrong
KalamariKing: *our* mind
KalamariKing: collective hive mind
Hjax: we are the borg
Astrobytes: Yes
Philbot: sorry for pressuring you
Astrobytes: Who asked about MCTS for multiplayer?
VizGhar: KalamariKing 14 mesages and you still didn't ask :)
KalamariKing: Philbot idek what those are sorry
eulerscheZahl: 50...sentences...laaateeerrrrr.....
eulerscheZahl: we can still get there
TobiasA: what is MCTS?
eulerscheZahl: monte carlo tree search
Philbot: i asked about MCTS
KalamariKing: VizGhar yes however I don't know how to ask... it's kind of a 'why doesnt this work' and that's not a good question
davilla: monte carlo tree search
KalamariKing: Philbot yeah mcts, I haven't heard of it until now, sorry
TobiasA: when is the contest?
VizGhar: Not without context :)
Hjax: contest is in 2 days
eulerscheZahl: the idea is that you play a random game. and then learn from it to understand that some moves are more likely to lead to a win than others
TobiasA: woah woah woah
Philbot: i didn't ask anyone specifically kalamari
TobiasA: and i am still a noob
Astrobytes: Turn-based or simultaneous philRG?
Astrobytes: *Philbot
eulerscheZahl: we are getting close to the contest, tabbing is getting less effective again
Philbot: any either all, want to know how it's usually being applied
TobiasA: what is tabbing?
Philbot: searching single tree is easy but how do you merge the two trees
Astrobytes: Well for simultaneous you can look into Smitsimax/UCT Forest
eulerscheZahl: eul[tab] => eulerscheZahl (auto completion)
Hjax: im using MCTS for othello
eulerscheZahl: MCTS for connect 4 in C#
https://tech.io/snippet/UGXgTEg
TobiasA: oouuuu that awesome feature
Hjax: although my own code is currently confusing me
TobiasA: i found out about it yesterday
Hjax: if you have specific questions about my MCTS othello program, feel free to shoot me a pm @Philbot
VizGhar: Philbot it's not about 2 or more trees. Simplest (but not right version) is to randomly search one tree again and again until you say. Yup this next move leads to most wins
KalamariKing: Btw how does the pastebin/codingame thing work when people post code
eulerscheZahl: >= 5 lines turns into a pastebin
Hjax: what i really want to know is why constraining my eval to juts the discrete values [0, 0.5, 1] makes it play better than a continuous eval
eulerscheZahl: and a certain number of characters (I forgot the limit) does the same
KalamariKing: oh sick
Astrobytes: You can store a reward vector for n players I guess, like maxN
eulerscheZahl: and then there is ̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤̤
jacek: oh my
Astrobytes: But then I haven't done > 2 player MCTS
eulerscheZahl: never gets old
KalamariKing: Could someone look over my distance formula I think its right but idk
Astrobytes: Vandalism!
VizGhar: my chat is falling apart
eulerscheZahl: just share the formula and find out if we can
KalamariKing: eulerscheZahl this is pure beauty and i forgot I had to paste it lol
Philbot: chat graffiti
KalamariKing: def dist(coord1, coord2): http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/007586e2-80ff-446d-a27b-5e0203c240b0
Marchete: do you use MCTS on some games, euler?
KalamariKing: I'm in class and my attention is very divided, if I forget something that's why, sorry
eulerscheZahl: do you convert between degree and radians?
eulerscheZahl: yes Marchete
eulerscheZahl: UTTT and Bandas
KalamariKing: Does it need to be?
jacek: btw. chat didnt break for me
VizGhar: and 2048 :)
philRG: Astrobytes philBot and philRG belongs to 2 different indviduals
eulerscheZahl: not sure anymore if I have another one in the arena
eulerscheZahl: 2048 is beam search
jacek: not in onitama?
VizGhar: ah sure... my bad
KalamariKing: As long as its all using the same units (rad or deg) then does it matter?
eulerscheZahl: minimax
VizGhar: onitama is minimax
jacek: right...
jacek: if you say so
Astrobytes: Yes, I just answered your message PhilRG, sorry for the ping :)
eulerscheZahl: :rolling_eyes:
KalamariKing: Wait why do I have to use the given formula for distance
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/defibrillators
KalamariKing: Couldn't I just use Pythag th
philRG: Astrobytes no problem :-)
KalamariKing: eulerscheZahl that's the one I'm doing rn
eulerscheZahl: and it asks you to find the distance
KalamariKing: Yeah
KalamariKing: I used the given formula
KalamariKing: Something isn't working and that's what I think it is
eulerscheZahl: and I told you to check if you use radians
Smelty: hmmrm
eulerscheZahl: as you are given coordinates in degrees
KalamariKing: Yeah its using rads
KalamariKing: OH
KalamariKing: ok thanks, I'm blaming this on trig being next year's class
VizGhar: I think some guys said, you can solve this without that complicated formula?
KalamariKing: VizGhar imma try pythag and see if it works
eulerscheZahl: there are different formulas for distances
VizGhar: just sqrt(dxˆ2+dyˆ2) not sure though
eulerscheZahl: different approximations
KalamariKing: VizGhar ye thats the one
eulerscheZahl: that sounds off to me. you can get lucky with the testcases
eulerscheZahl: the points are close together, making it almost a flat surface
eulerscheZahl: and the earth isn't even a perfect sphere (which most formulas assume)
eulerscheZahl: more like a rotated ellipse
VizGhar: anyway... you code seems to be correct. U sure the problem is in this part of code?
Marchete: https://github.com/marchete/NetMokka
Marchete: I was able to do all AVX2 stuff on C#
Marchete: and it goes as fast as C++
eulerscheZahl: oh cool. thanks for sharing Marchete
eulerscheZahl: even if i don't want to use the NN part, I can still use it as a reference for AVX
Philbot: you have a C++ version too?
PatrickMcGinnisII: defib.... i tried my code without multiplying the distance by 6371 and the precision caused it to fail. depends on lang., i actually did this one in java so i wouldn't have to fight precision
VizGhar: hmm I used kotlin, so it's same as Patrick's
eulerscheZahl: i don't see how the 6371 could change anything. are you converting to integers or something?
KalamariKing: I'm back
KalamariKing: The 6371 is the radius of the earth, in km
PatrickMcGinnisII: i originally used php euler ... the rounding error without using bcmath
KalamariKing: I'm saying screw that and trying pythag
PatrickMcGinnisII: Double';s are fine
KalamariKing: Are you looking at my code
KalamariKing: Wait no nv,
KalamariKing: nvm*
KalamariKing: can you not raise a float to a power
KalamariKing: oh wait python uses **
KalamariKing: nvm
VizGhar: There was a calendar of events for fall challenge. I mean. when will silver/gold/legend leagues opened
eulerscheZahl: http://how-to-properly-ask-a-question.surge.sh/
eulerscheZahl: fionally, that's #4
eulerscheZahl: BINGO!!!
KalamariKing: oh lmao
VizGhar: is there calendar for this event?
VizGhar: euler the one was for me? :D
eulerscheZahl: no, for the python power
eulerscheZahl: league opening is always monday, wednesday, friday
VizGhar: ah thanks god I already felt ashamed
eulerscheZahl: 6pm UTC+2
VizGhar: tnx
Philbot: hard to follow with chat
King_Coda: hello
Philbot: at one point i thought we're not supposed to ask questions
King_Coda: good morning
davilla: I'm coding a very hard puzzle, watching a movie, changing a flat tire, and giving a presentation on slot machines all at the same time, so sorry if my thoughts are a little scattered. </sarcasm>
King_Coda: who the hell is Phoenix09 and why are they following me
eulerscheZahl: i prefer a series over a movie. i'm bad at remembering faces :(
King_Coda: well they're banned now, so it doesnt really matter
eulerscheZahl: easier for me when i get some episodes to get used to them
davilla: funny, I have the same problem in real life... but actors usually have very distinct features
davilla: when they don't, I get super confused
eulerscheZahl: remembering shoes can help. easier with men usually, they don't wear a different pair every day :D
PatrickMcGinnisII: My GF remembers people's pet's names and references people by "...watzerface with Binky, Fuzzy, or whatever "
davilla: The Departed was super confusing, for instance
orangesnowfox: good morning peoples
eulerscheZahl: good evening to you as well
Philbot: it is said first thing women look at are your shoes perhaps that's how they remember me
davilla: and some other movie I saw as a teen, set somewhere it snows, that had 3 blonds
eulerscheZahl: nowadays it's my initials in the teams meeting
eulerscheZahl: which they see first
eulerscheZahl: i didn't put a profile pic there
PatrickMcGinnisII: I have multiple pairs of Tevas, women know if your wearing your good pair or your work pair
Astrobytes: DM's all the way
eulerscheZahl: none for me
davilla: the difference between an introverted mathematician and and extroverted mathematician, is that an introverted mathematician looks at his shoes when he talks to you
davilla: an extroverted mathematician looks at your shoes
Astrobytes: heh heh
eulerscheZahl: i knew that one already
Westicles: I was surprised when I started working, all the guys were wearing shorts with their balls hanging out
eulerscheZahl: working at a ball park?
PatrickMcGinnisII: gotta keep 'em dry
Westicles: That's why I never found the movie The Matrix realistic. Having to be on time and wear a suit for a programmer?
davilla: a noob here for the first time might see the name Westicles and the topic of conversation and be very confused what this is all about
TobiasA: how come i can't output an angle for the pod to turn in coders strike back
TobiasA: ?
Astrobytes: I see chat is having an 'eclectic' day
Smelty: yes.
davilla: it's excitement about the upcoming event
davilla: that people aren't addressing directly
Astrobytes: :grin:
Smelty: TobiasA: Just output the place you want it to go and the thrust, it will automatically turn a maximum of 18 degrees in each direction to point at the place you want it to go
PatrickMcGinnisII: and here i am trying to bitblt smash the code to squeeze more iterations
PatrickMcGinnisII: i give up, glhf
davilla: bitblt = ?
PatrickMcGinnisII: bit twiddling
davilla: oh there's a pedia on it
Philbot: is there something i should not use bitboards for?
eulerscheZahl: readable code
Marchete: sanity
Philbot: are there any particular contests where bitboards don't work
Astrobytes: Anything without a board, generally speaking ;)
Astrobytes: But you can still use bitwise ops, packing stuff etc
Philbot: but any values can be encoded as bits
Astrobytes: Yep.
Manchi_o6o7: how can I compare two strings in C, alphabetically. So I can bianry search a word
eulerscheZahl: if you are happy with reaching legend and don't plan to win the contest, you won't need bitboards
eulerscheZahl: str_cmp as "asciibetical"
eulerscheZahl: you can toupper it and then compare that way
Manchi_o6o7: str1>str2 won't work*
Manchi_o6o7: ?
eulerscheZahl: https://www.programiz.com/c-programming/library-function/string.h/strcmp
eulerscheZahl: note that this function is case sensitive
Manchi_o6o7: I need to determine the high and low in a binary search
Manchi_o6o7: I have an array of strings alphabetically sorted, and the key string
Westicles: Heh heh. "Haskell is already supported". I don't know anything about that guy to tell if that is straight up or not
KalamariKing: Westicles is haskell support poor?
KalamariKing: And I've heard the term bitboard a few times now, what does it mean
Manchi_o6o7: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d6f7d577-0a56-4458-97ae-3e67e7ea2984
Manchi_o6o7: binary search isn't working :(
KalamariKing: strcmp takes two strings
KalamariKing: wait i didn't see the ,
Philbot: there is a free book for haskell kalamarihttp://learnyouahaskell.com/
KalamariKing: I was just questioning westicles' statement
Hjax: @KalamariKing imagine a game of checkers, on a 8x8 board
Hjax: you can use 1 64 bit integer for each color
Westicles: The version seems to be 3 years old. I'm sure they've added lots of stuff to make it even more incomprehensible in that time
Hjax: each bit of the integer represents one square of the board
KalamariKing: Oh that's cool
Hjax: 1 = theres a piece there, 0 = theres no piece there
Hjax: it lets you represent a game state in a very compact way, do efficient move generation,
struct: VS does not compile on debug but compiles on release
Hjax: if you are after performance, bitboards are often the answer
struct: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Manchi_o6o7: struct, can you help me out with my code
KalamariKing: istg this actually sucks
KalamariKing: I cannot for the life of me do this and idk why
struct: sorry im solving some problems atm
nikcode: hello
KalamariKing: Hello nikcode!
KalamariKing: struct what kinda problems?
nikcode: wassup guys - too much reading in problems
KalamariKing: wdym
Philbot: nikcode are you reading the same article as me?
nikcode: not sure
Philbot: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/55004/best-first-minimax-search-with-uct
Philbot: best first, minimax and uct
nikcode: I just joined this today and trying just for understanding - what it is
Philbot: first paragraph talks about NN too
KalamariKing: What what is
nikcode: How does it work and improve coding - can anyone explain/
KalamariKing: How does WHAT improve coding
nikcode: I mean how to use for better result
KalamariKing: how to use WHAT
Philbot: i am still reading it nikcode
nikcode: ok
Westicles: Philbot, maybe try this?
Westicles: https://www.codingame.com/training/hard/monte-carlo-tree-search-exercise
Philbot: not now
Philbot: besides i am looking through ideas
KalamariKing: oh my god
KalamariKing: this whole time
KalamariKing: the lat and lon were switches
KalamariKing: switched*
KalamariKing: whoever made this puzzle don't know their coordinate systems
Philbot: i don't understand the article at all
Philbot: if they can evaluate best move at depth 0 what is the role of the tree?
KalamariKing: Maybe the best move changes based on what the opponent does?
KalamariKing: Idk
Philbot: is there a way to block people in this chat?
KalamariKing: Idts
KalamariKing: Not in main, only admin can do that, but maybe in dms? You'd have to talk to struct or BlaiseEbuth or smn
Astrobytes: Is someone bothering you Philbot? Like in DM or something?
KalamariKing: Astro is also a mod, yeah
eulerscheZahl: so many mods :scream:
KalamariKing: Indeed
KalamariKing: What purpose have you of 10 active mods
Marchete: fame and girls
Astrobytes: :D
Astrobytes: Not usually all active at the same time
Astrobytes: Different time zones too
eulerscheZahl: we still have a problem during European night time
eulerscheZahl: mods are very centered
KalamariKing: What time is it in europe rn btw
Astrobytes: Hm, we only have re Curse overnight really
eulerscheZahl: 8:42pm
Astrobytes: 7:42pm
KalamariKing: That's so weird to think about, idk why
KalamariKing: Some people are waking up when others are going to sleep
eulerscheZahl: and some are below you without falling down
Westicles: Yeah, MK is about the only one who sometimes takes a night shift
eulerscheZahl: is he mod again?
eulerscheZahl: chat server crashed and mod permissions got a bit shuffled
KalamariKing: :o
Astrobytes: Yes, I think he's still mod eulerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: or again? not sure
Astrobytes: Again yeah.
Hjax: every time ive come here at night for me, theres just been a massive wall of spam :joy:
Astrobytes: Message removal capability would be an enormous help, but it's not going to happen.
Astrobytes: Ignore functionality, etc
Marchete: /ignore all
Astrobytes: that's just ?disableChat :P
KalamariKing: How do you re enable I wanna try this out
struct: Im only allowed 1 ban per week
Astrobytes: On a diet?
Astrobytes: Re-enable what Ruler of Fried Squid?
jacek: huh
King_Coda: ?disableChat
King_Coda: ?disableChat
Astrobytes: No you add that to the URL
jacek: alt+F4
KalamariKing: Oh hey again King_Coda
King_Coda: ?fortheloveofgodpleasedisableChat
struct: I add that to the special ide
Astrobytes: chat commands are prefixed with /
King_Coda: wait i want to try this
KalamariKing: What chat commands are there
Astrobytes: Click that question mark
King_Coda: holy crap that works
KalamariKing: Oh lol
KalamariKing: can you not pm yourself
Astrobytes: ...
KalamariKing: I need this astro
King_Coda: wait let me look at the source code for the site real quick
King_Coda: god dammit CG, why didn't you clean up your code
King_Coda: how the hell am I supposed to find my post ID in this mess?
eulerscheZahl: because they use Angular
eulerscheZahl: analyze the network traffic
eulerscheZahl: source code is unreadable and the same on every page
King_Coda: ugh
King_Coda: i need my post key
KalamariKing: why
King_Coda: oh wait
struct: This scroll bug
struct: Every time
King_Coda: oh yeah I hate that
King_Coda: I found my profile ID
Astrobytes: It's been getting worse recently that scroll issue struct
King_Coda: {"level":53,"xpThreshold":3858,"cumulativeXp":83701}"
King_Coda: found where they keep the level data
KalamariKing: epic
KalamariKing: but now what
King_Coda: "chatChannels":{"privateConversations"
King_Coda: that's where they keep pm's
Marchete: hackerman
King_Coda: "channels":["world@conference.codingame.com"]
King_Coda: that's the public channel
King_Coda: there are only 9 lines of code, the lines are just super long for some reason
King_Coda: you can find all of this stuff at the bottom of line 1
Astrobytes: ooh it's 1337 h4x0r time again Marchete
King_Coda: "impersonated":false}
King_Coda: they have a line of code that checks if the user is impersonating another user
KalamariKing: wait can admin do that
KalamariKing: can MODS do that
KalamariKing: astro are you astro
King_Coda: it's just a boolean i think
King_Coda: {If user IP matches user ID then "impersonated":false}
Hjax: im actually astro
Hjax: see look, cat profile picture
King_Coda: or something like that
King_Coda: i don't know if they match ip's or if they check impersonation some other way
Astrobytes: Brain wave patterns.
King_Coda: lol
Hjax: maybe its code analysis
Hjax: this guys code is trash, must be hjax
Astrobytes: You mean me
Astrobytes: You're astro
Hjax: ah right, im astro
Astrobytes: HastroJax
struct: I cant even read what you typed :/
struct: after I typed it fixed
KalamariKing: struct are you struct
King_Coda: "chatChannels":{"privateConversations":[{"id":"4279233","nick":"Astrobytes"}]
Therabidpanther: wtf
King_Coda: this is my pm with astro
KalamariKing: spooky
Astrobytes: Yeah, now do something with that.
Therabidpanther: how did you get the json from your chat lol
King_Coda: Ctrl+u
Therabidpanther: is that a thing for any site? lol
KalamariKing: nah
struct: can you stop with the random pings Kalamari?
KalamariKing: hacks
KalamariKing: sorry lol
King_Coda: "4279233", i don't think I can do anything with that
King_Coda: ctrl+u works with any site
Astrobytes: 'Inspect' is usually a little more interesting no?
King_Coda: yeah, but that only...
King_Coda: OH
King_Coda: WAIT
KalamariKing: lmao
King_Coda: If I can get the chat ID of a different PM, then use inspect, I can change my PM to a different PM
KalamariKing: wack
Astrobytes: gl with that
KalamariKing: wait can you see other pms?
King_Coda: "channels":["world@conference.codingame.com"
King_Coda: this is the id for a public channel
King_Coda: if I can change the id to say...
King_Coda: ["clash@conference.codingame.com"
King_Coda: then it should change the world channel to the clash channel
Therabidpanther: So all channels have email addresses?
Therabidpanther: time to spam! lol
King_Coda: I can only see the PM's that are directly linked to my userID
King_Coda: I can't see the ID's of other users PM's
Therabidpanther: but if you were to guess the ID, could you eavesdrop? lol
King_Coda: guessing an id would be difficult
Therabidpanther: very
Astrobytes: Scroll to the bottom:
https://www.codingame.com/faq
King_Coda: AHA
BlaiseEbuth: Warzazat ping?
King_Coda: 0000000@chat.codingame.com
King_Coda: I know what the number is, that's the userID
Therabidpanther: thats your user id? lol
Astrobytes: Such a 1337 h4x0r
King_Coda: if i were somehow able to get someone elses userID then could I impersonate them?
King_Coda: my user id is not 0000000
Therabidpanther: wanna be me? lol
King_Coda: no, i think the server would be sus
King_Coda: remember: "impersonated":false}
King_Coda: there might be a check that will cuc me
KalamariKing: More than likely
King_Coda: i don't want to get cucced
KalamariKing: What happens if you set that to true btw?
BlaiseEbuth: Don't underestimate the mess that is the chat server config...
Therabidpanther: im sure the admin password is "password"
Astrobytes: p455w0rD actually
King_Coda: if I set that to true i don't think it would do anything
King_Coda: but i dont want to risk it
King_Coda: i remember something like this on a different website
King_Coda: when you made a new account, you couldnt type in chat for 24 hours
Therabidpanther: how do you plan on changing the value? lol
KalamariKing: Inspect element
King_Coda: however, if you got your post id and typed it into a special url, then typed the message you wanted to send and hit enter, it would send the message and ignore the wait
King_Coda: the site only checked input from the actual chat bar, not from the post key itself
fvla: that's so funny
King_Coda: codingame has no post key system, or it does not tell me what my post key is, so I can't do anything with that
King_Coda: however i can still mess around with chat values and still have some fun
Astrobytes: As I said. Good luck :)
KalamariKing: But what if he finds a hol
fvla: test
KalamariKing: hole*
TobiasA: what are you hacking?
Therabidpanther: {"isAdmin": true}
KalamariKing: fvla whatchya testing
fvla: network response
Therabidpanther: we need codingame nfts
Astrobytes: Go go n00b13 1337 h4x0r5
KalamariKing: I have a question and before you all link the 'how to ask a good question' or whatever I just a hint or something, I've been at this for like two hours
Astrobytes: Dude: the point is - forget the preamble And Just Ask The Question
Philbot: :)
KalamariKing: im sorryyyyy used to other servers
KalamariKing: The mayan number puzzle is kicking my butt. I got the numbers working and the equation and all working, but the final piece is putting it all into base-20
KalamariKing: how does one change bases FROM base 10 TO something else, in python
Astrobytes: don't make me letmegooglethatforyou
KalamariKing: int(x, n) converts FROM base n TO base 10, but I need the opposite
BlaiseEbuth: Language does not matter
fvla: look up radix change?
fvla: that's the name of the numeric base: radix
King_Coda: try int(n, x)
King_Coda: that's the opposite
KalamariKing: blaise yeah but if it were javascript. a simple tostring() would do it
fvla: lmao
Astrobytes: ...
BlaiseEbuth: Python is such an assisted language...
KalamariKing: yeah
i_dont_want_a_nickname: Is it just me or is the auto complete continuously breaking in the codingame editor right now? I have refreshed several times.
KalamariKing: you have to spam escape i_dont_want_a_nickname
King_Coda: ctrl+w will fix it
Astrobytes: It does that from time to time, sometimes it's fine (rarely ime)
KalamariKing: I can't find the python func to do this and idk how to do it mathematically yet
fvla: KalamariKing I literally just googled "radix change python" and got perfectly sound answers in a matter of half a minute
BlaiseEbuth: ^
BlaiseEbuth: Ah no. Haven't seen the python.
King_Coda: so the world@conference.codingame.com variable is unchangeable as far as i know
Astrobytes: Honestly KalamariKing, the purpose of these puzzles is sometimes to learn something that you don't know...
King_Coda: there is no way to leave world chat sadly
King_Coda: but yes, you can change all other channel variables
BlaiseEbuth: I can make you leave if you want
Astrobytes: That learning doesn't usually constitute asking in chat without even attempting to look it up yourself and making a go of it.
King_Coda: no thanks blaise
King_Coda: :innocent:
KalamariKing: I've looked it up a couple times and it's usually different every time
Astrobytes: It's not an instant gratification thing, it requires thought and time if you need to learn a different technique
King_Coda: just try all the different solutions and see which one works
Astrobytes: ...
King_Coda: ezpz
Astrobytes: And learn... nothing.
King_Coda: No, then you do a bunch of the same puzzles and use the same solution, that way you remember how to do it
King_Coda: :grinning:
Astrobytes: Btw, first person who DM's me during the contest asking "how do I solve this" gets a Free Ban.
King_Coda: OH YEAH
KalamariKing: me
KalamariKing: i wanna
King_Coda: Contest is after tomorrow!
King_Coda: I just realised this morning that I turn 16 tomorrow
Hjax: lol astro
Astrobytes: You want a medal or something King_Coda?
Hjax: do people dm you more now that youre a mod?
King_Coda: Yes
TobiasA: yo Astrobytes
King_Coda: I want my State ID
TobiasA: hope you got my back the day after tomorrow
Astrobytes: TobiasA: Please state the nature of your coding emergency.
TobiasA: hehehehe
King_Coda: TobiasA...
TobiasA: free ban for me
TobiasA: haha you all have to pay
King_Coda: No we don't/
TobiasA: you do
Astrobytes: Oh no, it rolls over. Don't worry about that.
King_Coda: What you think: :money_mouth:
In reality: :expressionless:
TobiasA: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Astrobytes: Contest questions go here
TobiasA: burning burning burning lalalala la la
King_Coda: I'll clean that up
TobiasA: where
TobiasA: wher
KalamariKing: where
TobiasA: e
Astrobytes: here
King_Coda: ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
TobiasA: me first
KalamariKing: here?
KalamariKing: on the table?
King_Coda: There
King_Coda: under there
Astrobytes: In world chat. Do you suddenly have a reduced mental capacity or something?
TobiasA: question 1
TobiasA: what is the best method for approaching bot programming
King_Coda: Approach it politely
Astrobytes: Leaving chat and opening one.
TobiasA: i tried it and it didn't work
King_Coda: Cantankerous: Astrobytes and I
TobiasA: i also tried approaching it aggresively
KalamariKing: question 1.499999999
if I were to win, would someone else win
King_Coda: What happened to the braincells of this chat
TobiasA: there goes my last brain cell
King_Coda: Did me and Astro take them all
King_Coda: ?
KalamariKing: question 1.50000000001
if my dog were to somehow pull this off would I reap the reward
TobiasA: seems like it
Astrobytes: KalamariKing: give it a rest please
TobiasA: ooooh King_Coda and Astrobytes want to use our braincells for the contest
KalamariKing: More serious question what IF someone uses your acc
KalamariKing: You would win, right? It's your acc at the tip
KalamariKing: top*
Astrobytes: If you mean 'getting a smart friend to write your bot for you' - these accounts get sniffed out rather fast
BlaiseEbuth: תסתום את הפה
BlaiseEbuth: Sorry
King_Coda: BLAISE
King_Coda: RUDE
TobiasA: Astrobytes you can borrow my account on the contest day
BlaiseEbuth: I cuss in Hebrew when I'm angry. Old habits...
TobiasA: do as you please with it but return it loaded
King_Coda: How do they figure out which accounts are doing that?
Westicles: They look for "impersonated":true
SwagColoredKitteh: tfw qts everywhere
Astrobytes: hey swaggeh
SwagColoredKitteh: heyy !
SwagColoredKitteh: how are you ?
King_Coda: Who is this? Another Westicles troll account?
Astrobytes: Other than having my resolve crushed by the hopelessness of this chat today I am well. You? :D
SwagColoredKitteh: oh no D: get your resolve back! grab some hot chocolate!
SwagColoredKitteh: well, surviving, i guess :P
Astrobytes: Always helpful.
Ready for the contest?
SwagColoredKitteh: no but it does sound fun!
BlaiseEbuth: Rototo brew!
SwagColoredKitteh: i will not be here at the start as i have an appointment with my psychologist around that time :P
SwagColoredKitteh: but i will join in
Astrobytes: it's 11 days, all good
Astrobytes: It better not be another potion making malarkey BlaiseEbuth
BlaiseEbuth: With fow and elastic collisions!
Astrobytes: Now we're talking.
King_Coda: Nice rap sheet SwagColoredKitteh. Good jobo getting top 0.2%
King_Coda: *job
SwagColoredKitteh: fog of war is always fun
SwagColoredKitteh: thanks uwu
King_Coda: eulerscheZahl IS NUMBER 2???
SwagColoredKitteh: elastic collisions ayooo
SwagColoredKitteh: b o u n c e
Astrobytes: boing!
KiwiTae: omgg SwagColoredKitteh hellooo
KiwiTae: long time
King_Coda: Wait, who is number 1??
KiwiTae: Royale prob
Astrobytes: Royale probably
TobiasA: in situations like this i wish i was smart
King_Coda: _Royale
Astrobytes: lol Kiwi
BlaiseEbuth: We are number one.
King_Coda: lol
BlaiseEbuth: eulerscheZahl is there a way to be be number 2
TobiasA: i don't understand anything that is going on
Astrobytes: Yes, we try not to tag unnecessarily King_Coda
King_Coda: Ohhh, sorry :grimacing:
KalamariKing: TobiasA we're talking about rankings in something, idk what
King_Coda: Rankings in Codingame
KalamariKing: Overall?
BlaiseEbuth: Astrobytes is right King_Coda, don't ping eulerscheZahl like that.
TobiasA: oh i bet i'm rankless
King_Coda: i think im 32,000th
KiwiTae: 13365th for you TobiasA
Astrobytes: BlaiseEbuth is completely correct in this assertion King_Coda and here you have one too TobiasA
gigolo: me trying to get top 5000 :)
King_Coda: PLease stop pinging me Astrobytes
KinectTheUnknown: We are
Astrobytes: As you wish
KiwiTae: gigolo just do the contest or a bot programming and thats it
BlaiseEbuth: Astrobytes is pinging you King_Coda ?
gigolo: :)
KalamariKing: lmao
King_Coda: Yes BlaiseEbuth, he is
BlaiseEbuth: Astrobytes are you pinging King_Coda ?
gigolo: :D
Astrobytes: BlaiseEbuth stop pinging me and King_Coda
gigolo: lol
Astrobytes: Right.
Astrobytes: Enough of that crap.
SwagColoredKitteh: KiwiTae hey!
KalamariKing: lmao
BlaiseEbuth: Do I pinging you and King_Coda Astrobytes ? :/
gigolo: :laughing:
KalamariKing: MOD vs MOD: FIGHT
King_Coda: :no_mouth:
Astrobytes: Wot. We don't fight.
KalamariKing: anyone wanna pore over my code and help me figure out why some is working and some isnt?
KiwiTae: sure
BlaiseEbuth: It's python?
KalamariKing: ye
Astrobytes: Or pythong?
KiwiTae: Blaise will only help if its clojure
King_Coda: Just go to SO, they're a real helpful bunch!
BlaiseEbuth: You have your answer
KalamariKing: it's probably pretty easy to spot, just not to me
KiwiTae: KalamariKing gimme if its short
Astrobytes: Just post it
KalamariKing: KiwiTae see there's the issue
KalamariKing: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/37628bcb-bba3-4a5e-bbc1-4aa9d7d0dd5e
KalamariKing: There's the full code
BlaiseEbuth: pleonsam
KalamariKing: Its the mayan numbers thing
KalamariKing: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/mayan-calculation
Astrobytes: um
BlaiseEbuth: *pleonasm
SwagColoredKitteh: pythong sounds great
SwagColoredKitteh: i am personally a roost programmer
Westicles: With python I always get some weird error about inconsistent use of tabs and spaces for indenting
Astrobytes: Yeah Swaggeh, pythong is both underwear for snakes and a very useful language
KalamariKing: It passes 1-4, 6, and 9
5, 7-8, and 10-11, something is really wrong and i don't know what :(
SwagColoredKitteh: the compiler shouting at me is just mmf
Astrobytes: Roost :rofl:
SwagColoredKitteh: i dig that stuff
King_Coda: What are you talking about Swaggeh, C-- is the best
King_Coda: C-- is the superior language
SwagColoredKitteh: i can't borrow this mutably? well watch me, roost
King_Coda: -the hassle
-the fun
orangesnowfox: is Roost just a weird spelling of Rust? ]
SwagColoredKitteh: who needs fun when you can fight the compiler all day
SwagColoredKitteh: yes
Astrobytes: Yes
orangesnowfox: Who needs to fight the compiler all day when you could just be good :sunglasses:
BlaiseEbuth: AskHell is my language
Astrobytes: Barn-storming borrow checker
SwagColoredKitteh: i like being good at fighting the compiler
orangesnowfox: Yeah, but like, why fight the compiler when you could come to a mutual agreement
orangesnowfox: :p
SwagColoredKitteh: every time i do a cargo run, the mortal combat theme starts playing
SwagColoredKitteh: agreement? with rustc? that does not exist
orangesnowfox: Umm, it does tho
SwagColoredKitteh: you just agree to disagree
Astrobytes: Make friends with Ferris
SwagColoredKitteh: qt crab
orangesnowfox: Nah, I agree and like, actually agree... You know you've hit that point when you actually make a `str` kind of type
orangesnowfox: and when you see `'a, 'b` in the same function lol
SwagColoredKitteh: oh the fun of DSTs
orangesnowfox: yeee
SwagColoredKitteh: 10/10 would recommend
SwagColoredKitteh: spent 10 hours fighting with rustc
orangesnowfox: I've probably spent 30 hours... Total, out of thousands of hours using Rust
SwagColoredKitteh: i make mistakes on purpose just to piss rustc off
orangesnowfox: lol
orangesnowfox: Oh, I have a joke for you SwagColoredKitteh
SwagColoredKitteh: im gonna borrow this mutably whether you want it or not
Astrobytes: That's crab baiting!
orangesnowfox: When will ! get stabilized?
orangesnowfox: !
SwagColoredKitteh: haha
SwagColoredKitteh: indeed
SwagColoredKitteh: i wonder why they call it !
SwagColoredKitteh: why not just give it an actual name
SwagColoredKitteh: just have std::void::Void or something
King_Coda: I made an Advertisment for C++, you guys wanna hear it?
XeroOl: My main complaint with rust is that the compile times take forever
orangesnowfox: (for those who don't know what ! is, it's the "Never" type, and it's been having trouble with stabilization because they want to change it to the fallback type for expressions but that causes bugs sometimes
KiwiTae: KalamariKing I do you got issue in your base
KiwiTae: its not 606-7 test 5
SwagColoredKitteh: XeroOl that is what coffee is for
KalamariKing: Wait so what is it?
KiwiTae: its 123-7
SwagColoredKitteh: in all seriousness yeah, rust compile times can get quite long
KalamariKing: Hmm
KalamariKing: Ok thanks
King_Coda: C++. What's the plus? More work, more sleep lost trying to find out why you keep getting std::error_code::message. string message() const;, only to find out you misspelled cout as cuot!
SwagColoredKitteh: there are ways to mitigate it but it's still not great
SwagColoredKitteh: ok King_Coda you explained one plus but there are two, mind explaining the second plus?
orangesnowfox: SwagColoredKitteh, you too can write your own ! type
Actually, there are quite a few out there
SwagColoredKitteh: yeah, exactly, so why make ! a type
SwagColoredKitteh: err
SwagColoredKitteh: rather, why name a type that
orangesnowfox: well, because it already is one sometimes
SwagColoredKitteh: it's so magical
King_Coda: more work = + number 1
King_Coda: the rest = + number 2
King_Coda: :slight_smile:
XeroOl: I dunno if any of you have looked at zig
orangesnowfox: like...
fn foo() -> ! { loop {} }
compiles on stable rust
SwagColoredKitteh: zig is cool
XeroOl: but that is a programming language that I enjoy
SwagColoredKitteh: i wish zig had unicode support in the stdlib and got rid of null-terminated strings though
orangesnowfox: and you can call `foo` from a function that returns `T`, and it'll be okay (in fact, if you try to execute any code after `foo`, it'll warn you that it's unreachable)
SwagColoredKitteh: but the rest of the language feels really cool to me
King_Coda: Anyways, I gotta go learn C# for the contest. See ya
SwagColoredKitteh: see you! and good luck!
orangesnowfox: Wait, do you *have* to, or *want* to?
XeroOl: why learn c# for the contest?
King_Coda: I like the C languages
XeroOl: ???
SwagColoredKitteh: C# is more similar to java than C or C++
King_Coda: Also need to learn it for my job
XeroOl: ahh, that makes sense
SwagColoredKitteh: fair enough :D
King_Coda: C#, C++, Javascript, all of that
XeroOl: I use Kotlin for those types of competitions
Astrobytes: your job?
KiwiTae: you got a job at 16 Oo
orangesnowfox: Same though?
DomiKo: It so strange seeing chat right now
orangesnowfox: I lost it a few months later
King_Coda: Yeah, getting a job soon.
KalamariKing: I got a job two days ago, after just turning 15
orangesnowfox: But I did have a job at 16 for a while
XeroOl: I feel like I should try the competition with a ridiculous language
KalamariKing: a lot of my friends had jobs all the way back at 14
XeroOl: just for fun
KalamariKing: do it
orangesnowfox: ... And then I got it again at 17, lol
King_Coda: Use Go XeroOl
KiwiTae: XeroOl do that to get cherry on top achievmeent
XeroOl: I know all my friends will also be using lua
XeroOl: so why not Lua lol
King_Coda: All I hear is lua this lua that
Astrobytes: I did too. First serious job was 17-18. Junior web dev, promoted from data entry by mucking around at lunchtime
King_Coda: whats the big deal?
XeroOl: Have you worked with lua?
King_Coda: Nope.
King_Coda: High level or low level?
XeroOl: it's pretty high level
Astrobytes: don't make me letmegooglethat
XeroOl: they don't have integer types, only float
DomiKo: Why go to work at this age?
Astrobytes: And indices start at 1
XeroOl: that too
OnTheBrink: anyone know the timezone for the spring challenge? not sure if the time is in my timezone or another.
Astrobytes: Our country is backwards DomiKo
Astrobytes: Mine at least
DomiKo: :(
XeroOl: it's kind of slow though, so I dunno if it's a good idea
KalamariKing: DomiKo when do you all start?
King_Coda: I don't really care for lua, eh
DomiKo: I didn't
struct: OnTheBrink there is a link ytou can click and it shows your time
KalamariKing: My country starts at 14 in most states
DomiKo: I will this year when I will be 22
KalamariKing: :o
KalamariKing: why so late
orangesnowfox: DomiKo, at 16 it was "having money", at 17 it was "because I wouldn't have anywhere to live otherwise"
KalamariKing: lol same
XeroOl: King_Coda, you don't need to, it's not a great language
Astrobytes: Yes orangesnowfox :D
King_Coda: I need to start saving up money as soon as possible
KiwiTae: i was escort at 21 :no_mouth:
DomiKo: Some people told me, learn to get a good job first, then go to work
King_Coda: That way I have enough when I move out
KalamariKing: Lucky
Astrobytes: Escort like 'escort' KiwiTae?
orangesnowfox: I don't really want to get all into it, but the person providing money stopped being able to do so, and I was the only one who could pick up the slack to a decent degree at the time, plus the job offer landed in my lap
KalamariKing: Some people told me, 'youre 15 now you can pay your rent or you can live on the streets' and now I have a job
DomiKo: that's just sad
DomiKo: :(
King_Coda: I just want enough money to move out at 18
OnTheBrink: @struct, ok. thanks. Usually there is a countdown to confirm, and I didnt see a timezone on the time so wanted to be sure.
King_Coda: Living with my parents eh
Astrobytes: I had a rough time early on too, did my biology BSc and cell bio MSc way later in life
King_Coda: no thanks
orangesnowfox: lol, imagine being able to afford moving out at 18 even with a job .-.
orangesnowfox: good luck though
King_Coda: fox, apartments are cheap around here, and I'm moving in with my brother as well.
orangesnowfox: oh? how much, usd?
KiwiTae: Astrobytes old times ~ now I am doing robotics
orangesnowfox: if you're willing to share, anyway
King_Coda: 1500 a month for a 2 bedroom
XeroOl: ouch
orangesnowfox: haha... That... Isn't cheap, but still cheaper than where I'll be
KiwiTae: ouch
orangesnowfox: $1300 for a 1 bedroom .-.
orangesnowfox: or more maybe
Astrobytes: KiwiTae: That's quite an admission for public chat tho :rofl:
Well done to you sir
King_Coda: It's actually not that bad
orangesnowfox: California? Because that sounds like Cali prices
King_Coda: wages around here are very generous
KiwiTae: Astrobytes :joy: nobody will remember
Zenoscave: I'm going to make a bot to remind people Kiwi
orangesnowfox: Now I'm going to just to spite you :p (seriously though, I probably won't remember)
Astrobytes: I will! :smiling_imp:
DomiKo: We will ;P
Zenoscave: Hive mind
King_Coda: I will remember
Astrobytes: hehehehe
Zenoscave: Also hi all. chat sure is active today
orangesnowfox: hey Zenoscave
KiwiTae: (╯°Д°)╯︵/(.□ . \).
jacek: eeyup
Astrobytes: Hey Zeno
King_Coda: Hello Zeno
DomiKo: Chat now is like "HEY IT"S CONTEST TIME"
orangesnowfox: protip Kiwi, if the internet is going to forget something, don't tell them that, they.... woon't
Zenoscave: Did you know the contest is in less than 48 hours?
struct: yeap
Astrobytes: It's been a bit of a clusterfuc* earlier but a little more coherent now
struct: I already have my bot ready
Zenoscave: struct gz on game of the week
struct: at least the first version
gigolo: wow good luck everybody
Zenoscave: wait was the game leaked?
struct: thanks zeno
struct: no
Astrobytes: Many new users on Yinsh struct?
King_Coda: Yes it was leaked
struct: I have no idea
Astrobytes: It wasn't King_Coda
struct: My cpu has been on 100% for the last 12 hours
King_Coda: I can't trust the validity of the source though
Zenoscave: how do you have your first v1 then struct
Astrobytes: Magic.
KiwiTae: you already got your NN ready and trained ? lol
struct: no NN
gigolo: i think the contest is related to pathfinding ?
orangesnowfox: struct clearly bruteforced the possible rulesets until they came up with the right one
jacek: muzero eh?
orangesnowfox: gigolo, pathfinding? That reminds me of AStarCraft from a while back... I started it and then never submitted lol
King_Coda: Yo, struct got puzzle of the week?
King_Coda: gg
jacek: and they said yinsh would never be potw
KalamariKing: anyone wanna help me make sense of something in python
yes we're back here
KalamariKing: before you all yell at me to 'just ask' i gotta type it all out
KalamariKing: so shush
King_Coda: I seriously need to make that chat activity graph
Zenoscave: just ask
Zenoscave: don't shush me while we're at it
Hjax: hes been hinting he has a question without asking it for hours zeno
King_Coda: I'll do that tomorrow. I feel like chat activity may be influenced by the event but eh i'll take multiple samples
Hjax: maybe some day the question will come
KalamariKing: I've asked a couple times, somewhat
Astrobytes: Well he sort of did eventually Hjax
KalamariKing: Just as I type it out I find the answer
Zenoscave: King_Coda it is. have you been here before a contest before?
KalamariKing: But the answer involves changing something and it becomes another bug
KalamariKing: I've narrowed it down to this:
Zenoscave: Hiya Hjax
King_Coda: Nope zeno
Astrobytes: Welcome to programming KalamariKing
Zenoscave: Get ready for the scroll
KalamariKing: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/57598921-1c35-4fd3-aea2-8e11d3cadaff
gigolo: h > 0 ?
KalamariKing: Yeah
Zenoscave: what puzzle KalamariKing we need context
KalamariKing: Oh ye
KalamariKing: Mayan calc
KalamariKing: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/mayan-calculation
Zenoscave: lol I remember that one
King_Coda: Apparently I solved a puzzle in javascript once
King_Coda: i don't even know js
Zenoscave: struct what lang for contest will you do?
DomiKo: here is more than one language? lol
Astrobytes: :rofl:
KalamariKing: Here's full code if you wanna try yourself
KalamariKing: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/27e429c0-09fe-4cea-a490-f27b383f7bc4
KalamariKing: It's something wrong with the parsing of the two operation numbers, specifically if there are two
Zenoscave: Right my bad. C# it is
King_Coda: Yeah, C# gang
DomiKo: :worried:
KalamariKing: I feel like something is wrong with the *num1.append( (20**i)*numerals[lines] )* at the end of each loop
Zenoscave: I'll beat Euler this time. I know it
orangesnowfox: I'll either be using Kotlin or Rust, haven't decided yet
Kawaii2007: ummm hi
orangesnowfox: hi, Kawaii2007
KalamariKing: Hello
Kawaii2007: Im new
Astrobytes: Hi new.
KalamariKing: Well welcome to CodinGame!
Kawaii2007: thanks
Kawaii2007: I love coding then i found this
KalamariKing: Ignore Astro, he's... well, Astro
KalamariKing: A lot of us got here that way to lol
Kawaii2007: lol
King_Coda: Don't ignore Astrobytes, he's my father!
King_Coda: I will not let you disgrace my kind.
Kawaii2007: lol
King_Coda: Also Astro, what are you doing?
Astrobytes: I have never sired an American child.
Zenoscave: Talking to me
King_Coda: When you say "Hi new", you follow up with "I'm dad"
Astrobytes: And stroking my beard furiously
King_Coda: You should know this!
Astrobytes: I'm 38. Why the hell should I know that.
Kawaii2007: oh shit
King_Coda: Because it's the most basic of dad jokes!
Zenoscave: Hi 38, I'm dad
King_Coda: SEE
King_Coda: Zeno understands.
Uljahn: hi dad, im cat
Kawaii2007: ummm
Zenoscave: I'm not a good reference for understanding or common
King_Coda: Lol
Zenoscave: I have a dad joke calendar
Astrobytes: :older_man:
King_Coda: Astro, if you're going to be a dad, you have to equip yourself with an arsenal of over-used cheesy jokes!
Zenoscave: If two vegans get in a fight is it still having a beef?
Kawaii2007: OMG my coding teacher tells us the worse jokes about computers
Zenoscave: Orions belt is a real waist of space
Astrobytes: I am not, will not, and will never be a dad. Not if I can help it anyway.
King_Coda: Have a free notification KalamariKing
Hjax: astro do you actually have a beard?
Zenoscave: that joke is only about 3 stars
Astrobytes: Zenoscave :rofl:
Astrobytes: x2
KalamariKing: King_Coda I was in another chat so that came through as an actual notification
Kawaii2007: .........
Zenoscave: Double dad joke Pewpew
Astrobytes: A goatee Hjax
King_Coda: Ooooh, goatee
Zenoscave: I have the mountain man beard
Zenoscave: I look like 85% of software engineers in Denver
Kawaii2007: ......................
Solzerid: My dad is a physics teacher. I get the best hybrid dad/science teacher jokes.
King_Coda: I'm still growing in on the sides of my face.
Astrobytes: Lockdown beard was like a monstrous facial invasion of wiry scoundrels
Hjax: do you frequent microbreweries Zenoscave
Zenoscave: "facail invasion of wiry scoundrels" dot com
Hjax: to complete the stereotype
Zenoscave: Hjax, don't call me out like that
King_Coda: LOL
Zenoscave: And I only drink IPA'
Zenoscave: And I only drink IPA's
Astrobytes: I do. Or did. AND I vape.
King_Coda: I've only had a ginger beer
Astrobytes: I don't ride a penny farthing though.
Astrobytes: Or wear +4s
Zenoscave: wait are those still a thing
King_Coda: Actually I had champagne once.
Zenoscave: the penny farthings
King_Coda: Kawaii2007, welcome to chat.
Astrobytes: Other than novelty, I don't think so
Kawaii2007: Im learning javascript
Zenoscave: That's just being a d**kNozzle
Astrobytes: Just doing the hipster stereotype
Zenoscave: Kawaii2007 how's JS going?
King_Coda: I'm also looking to learn JS
kingbojo: emos
Kawaii2007: I just started
Zenoscave: emo hasn't been a thing since 2011 Kingbojo
Astrobytes: It's my party and I'll cry if I want to kingbojo
Astrobytes: Isn't it all screamo now?
Kawaii2007: i don't understand
jacek: they all killed themselves?
Zenoscave: ... The artist in the ambulance started playing as I said that on spotify
TobiasA: i fell asleep while lurking
TobiasA: bye you guys
King_Coda: Bye TobiasA
Astrobytes: It listens...
Hjax: hey jacek, how many nodes do you search per move in othello, i feel like ive asked someone this before, but i dont remember who or the answer
Astrobytes: 42
Zenoscave: 43
orangesnowfox: 42
orangesnowfox: Wait... 53
Zenoscave: You have to give the wrong answer guys
King_Coda: kingbojo, how dare you disgrace the King username with your foultries.
Astrobytes: 128
Kawaii2007: wtf
orangesnowfox: A nation of moves, truely indivisible
Kawaii2007: ummm Im 14
Astrobytes: One nation under a move
King_Coda: Hi 14, I'm dad
Kawaii2007: *Kicks King_Coda*
**King_Coda slaps Kawaii2007 around a bit with a large fishbot
Zenoscave: Kawaii2007 the chat here gets a bit sporadic. If you want to focus on coding, come in like 2 weeks. The contest starts in 2 days and will be a bit hectic at that time
Kawaii2007: your not my dad
King_Coda: Your kicks are no match for my slap
King_Coda: *you're
Astrobytes: *you're not my dad
King_Coda: LOL
King_Coda: :rofl:
Kawaii2007: Im a soccer player fight me
Zenoscave: astro I saw that comming
Astrobytes: I resist
King_Coda: I'm 6 ft tall, fight me
orangesnowfox: I was a soccer player, umm, was a Hockey player too, I wouldn't want to fight
Kawaii2007: fuck
Astrobytes: I'm astro, byte me
Zenoscave: Hi 6 ft tall, I'm Dad
King_Coda: LOL ASTRO
Zenoscave: astro :rofl:
KalamariKing: astro lmao
King_Coda: ZENO LOL
orangesnowfox: okay...
DomiKo: 6ft? Do you have 6 feet?
**orangesnowfox turns astro into 8 bits
Kawaii2007: im 5" 1 1/4'
King_Coda: Also Kawaii2007 I'm 2 years older than you
Zenoscave: No just 6 toes
Hjax: no he only has 4 feet, hes a cat
**Astrobytes is in bits
orangesnowfox: you now only have 256 states of information
KalamariKing: We're talking that 'murican DomiKo
Zenoscave: he's ~1.85 metres
DomiKo: 82
DomiKo: he's small
King_Coda: I'm 182 centimetres
Astrobytes: also Kawaii2007: try not to swear/cuss without reason
Zenoscave: Damn close enough
Kawaii2007: okay
orangesnowfox: 185 .-. I don't like being tall
Zenoscave: 188 here
orangesnowfox: get smacked on ceilings or w/e
DomiKo: damn Zeno 1cm more than me
King_Coda: I'm still growing too
KalamariKing: Alright
KalamariKing: You all said not to ask, so
Zenoscave: slanted ceiling stairwells are the bane of my existence
Astrobytes: I'm about 6'4"
King_Coda: got about 9 more years left in me
Kawaii2007: Can u guys donate some inches to the ones an need
Hjax: im like 172, not very tall
KalamariKing: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/fdbe3205-8f3c-420a-a541-f2a474a8ed74
KalamariKing: help
KalamariKing: do it
orangesnowfox: Kawaii, would totally do it
King_Coda: Nah, I'll keep mine thank you very much
orangesnowfox: I'll donate up to a foot of height
Kawaii2007: YEAH
orangesnowfox: free of charge
Kawaii2007: YAY
KalamariKing: haha imagine being tall
Astrobytes: And that's 193cm in metric
Kawaii2007: imagine be a higher coder then ur whole class
Zenoscave: noice
King_Coda: IMagine being short
orangesnowfox: conclusion: humans have been getting taller on average because gravity has been decreasing /s
orangesnowfox: err, not /s, /j
King_Coda: Indeed
Zenoscave: Kawaii2007 you're exactly the same as every one of your classmates. within an order of magnitude. In any coding metric.
orangesnowfox: Dang
King_Coda: Some people are better at coding AI, some are better at manipulating algorithms.
Zenoscave: Everyone of the same learning time is. It takes time to learn. there are no gurus
orangesnowfox: Zeno, I was about to say we were exactly the same by that logic ("less than 1 OOM rank wise") but you're actually in a different OOM lol
Kawaii2007: Then why am i in javaspcrit and my class is still in HTML
orangesnowfox: html... html isn't a programming language
Kawaii2007: Yes
KalamariKing: html is markup :o
Kawaii2007: it
Kawaii2007: yep
King_Coda: html is nasty
Zenoscave: Kawaii2007 i didn't say you aren't better. you're just not *that* much better
Kawaii2007: thats what she said
King_Coda: HTML5 is a slight improvement
KalamariKing: zeno lol
Zenoscave: Basically humble yourself
orangesnowfox: html5 + css3 is a programming language tho
KalamariKing: its really not
orangesnowfox: turing complete tho
Zenoscave: It is turing complete. not a lang.
orangesnowfox: good point
Zenoscave: It is only turing complete through GoL emulation
KalamariKing: javascript... now we're coding
Zenoscave: which is turing complete. It has no means of stdio
Astrobytes: which doesn't say a great deal
Kawaii2007: why me
Hjax: theres a lot of weird things that are turing complete
Zenoscave: My point
Hjax: minecraft is turing complete lol
King_Coda: Javascript is used in 97% of web applications
orangesnowfox: minecraft isn't even accidentally turing complete lol
Zenoscave: Coffee brew bubbles are quantum machines
KalamariKing: turing complete means what again? asking for a friend, i totally know
Zenoscave: Being turing complete means nothing in the grand scheme
Hjax: means it can do anything a turing machine can
orangesnowfox: ^
jacek: universal turing machine*
orangesnowfox: Which, is basically all computers nowadays
KalamariKing: You all are impressive with your knowledge
King_Coda: Anyways, I gotta bounce. See all you chuckleheads later
Zenoscave: https://lmgtfy.app/?q=turing+complete+means+what
jacek: nah, they dont have infinite capacity
KalamariKing: glhf King_Coda
Astrobytes: chuckleheads...
orangesnowfox: and if they aren't *stronger* than a turing machine, they can't solve the halting problem :p
King_Coda: Well I would have said Chucklef*cks...
Hjax: the lack of infinite tapes is really puts a damper on our computers :P
King_Coda: but Astro said no cussing
King_Coda: Bye
orangesnowfox: You're right, we need to have infinite ram, but first, we need infinite engergy
orangesnowfox: *energy, heck
Rabeeb: what is the time zone of the soring event time?
Rabeeb: *spring
Hjax: is it not localized automatically?
Hjax: mine says 10am
Rabeeb: oh then it is localized ig
Zenoscave: 10am here too
orangesnowfox: > The event starts on Thursday, May 6th at 2 pm UTC and ends on Monday, May 17 at 8 am UTC. It starts at the same time for all players in the world, whatever the time zone.
It's definitely localized (my browser timezone is utc)
Zenoscave: I think???
Zenoscave: 8AM !? I'm missing the first hour at least
davilla: mine says 9am so yeah local
Hjax: 10 am is about when im getting to work
Zenoscave: Ah there's no way i'm waking up at 7am
Kawaii2007: for its 2:06pm
Kawaii2007: me
Rabeeb: mine is 8pm
Hjax: so ill have all day of rereading the spec and waiting to go home
davilla: so what do people do, code 24 hours straight, no sleep?
orangesnowfox: yeah, no way I'm waking up at 7 am
orangesnowfox: davilla, there's 11 days to the compo
Zenoscave: I may be comming down with covid... *Cough cough* can't work for 13 days
Hjax: the contest is 11 days long, and usually the full rules arent unlocked at first @davilla
Kawaii2007: its 14 tbh
davilla: oh so I can sleep in, that's good
Kawaii2007: lol
orangesnowfox: Sleeping enough is actually important because it keeps your mind in a condition to code
davilla: wait I thought it was 11 days
orangesnowfox: lol
Hjax: its 11 days
Astrobytes: that's 14 in KiwiTae-me
Zenoscave: baduntiss
davilla: I was thinking, I'd better do taxes now
BlaiseEbuth: Pew pew pew in the aire
BlaiseEbuth: *air
KalamariKing: hello again blaise
Zenoscave: pew pew pew blaise
KalamariKing: you only help with some obscure language starting with an r right
KalamariKing: Like rust or ruby or somthing
KalamariKing: something*
BlaiseEbuth: Ruby ? Me ? Never !
Astrobytes: There was something in the air that night, pewpew so bright, Blaise Ebuuuth
Kawaii2007: HOW DO U DO THE CLASH OF CODE
KalamariKing: by doing do
KalamariKing: so*
BlaiseEbuth: Stop screaming
Zenoscave: Ruby's good
KalamariKing: you click start, you code uber-fast, and you win
KalamariKing: ez
BlaiseEbuth: pz
Kawaii2007: what
KalamariKing: ezpz
orangesnowfox: KalamariKing lol, imagine Rust being obscure
Zenoscave: ezpz fix it
orangesnowfox: fix Rust?
Astrobytes: Remove the moisture and the O2 and rust begone!
KalamariKing: just gotta do a thing, I want the link, ignore it (or not, idk)
KalamariKing: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/47d6e678-6b9a-4a7c-8206-53e0830155f4
KalamariKing: k thanks
Kawaii2007: idk
Astrobytes: Thank you for posting code with no context.
KalamariKing: yw <3
Astrobytes: Again.
KalamariKing: ofc, always, for you astro <3
Kawaii2007: Why me
KalamariKing: if you NEED context, I wanted the link
Astrobytes: If ye don't stop yer nonsense laddie ah'll hae t'gie ye a kick
KalamariKing: That's the code for the mayan thing, yes, its been 6 hours straight and yes, I still havent done it
KalamariKing: 90% tho and based on it being division, its probably a float vs int thing
BlaiseEbuth: *no
KalamariKing: whatever
Astrobytes: There is no shame in spending time on a puzzle.
KalamariKing: my brain hurst blaise
KalamariKing: *hurts, god
Astrobytes: Yes my child?
Uljahn: use debug printing [solved]
BlaiseEbuth: 99% that's because you're using python
KalamariKing: yup
Kawaii2007: I was i had a someone
KalamariKing: you do
Kawaii2007: yeah
KalamariKing: the voices in your head don't count? they're offended
Astrobytes: Was a someone I had I?
BlaiseEbuth: doubidoubidoudododo
Kawaii2007: I want a special someone
Astrobytes: BlaiseEbuth: https://youtu.be/vH-ilGTL_Ec?t=109
BlaiseEbuth: :thumbsup:
Kawaii2007: I can't watch it school computer
Astrobytes: Unlucky.
billygoat2233: sup peeps
KalamariKing: what happens if I
KalamariKing: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.leisurepro.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F12%2Fshutterstock_630123449.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
KalamariKing: the boi, he swims
Kawaii2007: omg
Kawaii2007: I found my new back ground
billygoat2233: yo
KalamariKing: Howdy
billygoat2233: hows it going
KalamariKing: billygoat2233 you new?
billygoat2233: yes
KalamariKing: Thought so. Welcome to CodinGame!
billygoat2233: thanks
KalamariKing: ignore this, i just need to go there and idk how so i click this --> #clash
billygoat2233: ok
struct: You can type /join clash instead
Astrobytes: or /join goatking
KalamariKing: wait can I really
KalamariKing: oh sick
KalamariKing: chat's bursting at the seams with features
AntiSquid: geez what's this red thing doing in here?
AntiSquid: someone having fun with alts again?
struct: you have been slacking AntiSquid
struct: Time to bring the hammer
KalamariKing: we back
AntiSquid: sure, who's the main account?
KalamariKing: :o
KalamariKing: howd you know
BlaiseEbuth: Main account of who?
AntiSquid: of that prank someone's trying to pull in here
BlaiseEbuth: :thinking::interrobang:
KalamariKing: AntiSquid of whom do you speak
AntiSquid: ok guess it's genuine then
Astrobytes: He speaks of the name that cannot be spoken.
r-k-g: ??
AntiSquid: "That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die."
BlaiseEbuth: I'm probably too exhausted to follow this conversation...
AntiSquid: idk maybe
Astrobytes: You should be well versed in the Necronomicon BlaiseEbuth
AntiSquid: good point, did you read any of Lovecraft books BlaiseEbuth ?
struct: ofc its an alt
struct: its same thing
struct: recycle
BlaiseEbuth: I am. That's the only sentence I understood...
AntiSquid: well it's level 14 and never seen it before
struct: ah not him
struct: Avatar just wasnt loading
Astrobytes: There are a large number of kids this past month or so
struct: Well during contest it will bans left and right
Astrobytes: I think struct may have referred to Kawaii
BlaiseEbuth: If you're speaking of the kalamar he's here since a few days...
struct: I have enough time during contest
struct: I already coded afterall
AntiSquid: i guess i missed most of the "fun" lately
Astrobytes: No fun.
Astrobytes: my babe
Astrobytes: No fuuuuun.
r-k-g: no ban pls
Astrobytes: *see The Stooges or the Sex Pistols to interpret my comment
AntiSquid: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112431/ babe .
BlaiseEbuth: Antisquid you're frightening users
r-k-g: lol
Astrobytes: Yeah, not the pig
Astrobytes: https://youtu.be/HXIw1BvfEQ8
AntiSquid: is that envy? BlaiseEbuth
r-k-g: why does it seem like there's such a large french presence on this site?
KalamariKing: AntiSquid I've seen you plenty of times
BlaiseEbuth: A little yeah... One day users will beg by seeing me too.
Astrobytes: Because it's a French company, based in France.
AntiSquid: where ? KalamariKing
BlaiseEbuth: Under the sea
KalamariKing: In main anti
KalamariKing: This chat
KalamariKing: A couple times, though some days ago and with a different pfp
Astrobytes: Down where it's wetter, down where it's better, take it from me
BlaiseEbuth: :crab:
AntiSquid: r-k-g Napoleon did win the war after all and the rest is a conspiracy
Astrobytes: Or the other way around, it's been a long time since I heard that crab sing
BlaiseEbuth: Why was I searching that crab emoji in the food tab...
r-k-g: lol
AntiSquid: on a serious note, watching these inflation videos and hope it's just "scaremongering", i know it isn't :/
KalamariKing: inflation? As in monetary?
BlaiseEbuth: Anarchy in th UK!
r-k-g: ah yes the uk
AntiSquid: i am sure it's coming to the US first KalamariKing
r-k-g: cool place but I'm glad I don't live there
Astrobytes: 1. It's not cool 2. Yes.
AntiSquid: canada literally a cool place, glad i don't live there
KalamariKing: anti So you do mean monetary
littlewhinging: Herro
KalamariKing: Howdy
Astrobytes: Always preferred this alt take of Anarchy in the UK. Bit rougher!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP_Tu52Hsb8
BlaiseEbuth: <3
BlaiseEbuth: Well. Coffin time. GN corpses!
Astrobytes: Wake well BlaiseEbuth
struct: Whats better currently intel or amd?
struct: My 4 threads cant keep up
KalamariKing: I'm diehard AMD
KalamariKing: AMD is cheaper per arbitrary unit performance
AntiSquid: i have a ryzen struct
KalamariKing: Sites like UserBenchMark are HEAVILY on the side of intel, so don't trust the reviews
KalamariKing: Intel runs hot
KalamariKing: AMD runs well
KalamariKing: That's how I think about it... but its up to you, idk
KalamariKing: Upgradability in the future? AMD for sure, intel you need a whole new mobo most of the time
AntiSquid: is your main a hardware specialist? :thinking:
struct: I see, guess I will have to do some research
AntiSquid: useful site: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/
Kawaii2007: im back
Astrobytes: Great. He's front. Some one else is right. In a minute I left.
AntiSquid: level 3 : im back
Kawaii2007: hi
Kawaii2007: hi
Astrobytes: You share my suspicion
struct: I was waiting for the 3rd
AntiSquid: oh that? you think it's that ?
Astrobytes: 3 hi's to make a kick
struct: no
struct: ban
Astrobytes: I think it's That One
Westicles: kk?
Westicles: I don't think that's hii
AntiSquid: no, something worse
Astrobytes: No one mentioned hii
struct: o.o
AntiSquid: gn8, don't let the chat trolls bite
struct: gn
Astrobytes: gn AntiSquid, I'm off soon too
struct: gn
Astrobytes: Soon, not instantly lol
struct: sorry
struct: Anyone has any idea why nth_element is different on gcc and msvc?
Astrobytes: It is?
struct: It doesnt exactly do the same
struct: let me show an example, 1 sec
struct: msvc: 2 3 10 23 33 45 47 56
gcc: 3 2 10 23 33 56 45 47
struct: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/b014a378-5fe6-4e08-9d74-b5985a656452
KalamariKing: What time is it for you all? Why y'all leaving?
struct: 00:00
KalamariKing: Is it actually
struct: 23:53
KalamariKing: Bruv
KalamariKing: Sleep
Astrobytes: 23.53 here too
struct: Im fine
KalamariKing: SLEEP
struct: isnt it a bit strange Astro?
KalamariKing: I'm not one to talk I stay up rather late but you need sleep, so get some. plus with the contest coming up, every little bit of mental capacity is an edge
struct: Its like nthelement sorts on MSVC
struct: while on gcc it doesnt care
struct: I think I should ask this question to Robo
struct: oh the code is different
DomiKo: yeah STL implementations could differ across compilators
Astrobytes: I was about to say about the implementation, I think it's an issue
DomiKo: sort could differ too
DomiKo: like if you have array [(1, 'A'), (1, 'B')]
DomiKo: if you sort that only by first element in pair
DomiKo: you could get [(1, 'A'), (1, 'B')] or [(1, 'B'), (1, 'A')]
struct: I see, thanks
Astrobytes: Yeah, check that out before anything else
struct: I guess I will test on gcc then
Astrobytes: And now I will sleep. Gn all
struct: gn
DomiKo: gn
Notter: Hi
struct: hi
Notter: Can you comment on my contribution?
KalamariKing: _struct you should sleep too
KalamariKing: Notter i gotchu, but what for?
KalamariKing: Post the link I dont wanna search
Notter: Wait
Notter: Also, sorry for disrupting you sleep schedule
Notter: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/6613533d1afb51db81b790f3d764db45c212
KalamariKing: struct never sleeps ig
KalamariKing: I'm in eagle-central so its still day here
KalamariKing: Why capital O's
KalamariKing: Why not something like #'s which would look more 'full' in the rings
Notter: Uhh let's go to the contribution chat
Notter: Nice suggestion though
CryptoZenith: i pulled my first official all nighter last night
KalamariKing: amazing
KalamariKing: welcome to the sleep deprivation club
Notter: How do you ping?
KalamariKing: Just type their name
KalamariKing: If the name matches anyone within chat, you can press tab to autocomplete
KalamariKing: e.x. 'kala[tab]' --> 'KalamariKing'
KalamariKing: try it with 'not'
KalamariKing: 'not[tab]' --> 'Notter'
Notter: [tab]
Notter: I thought that would work
Notter: Not[tab]
Notter: not[tab]
KalamariKing: You have to actually press tab
KalamariKing: 'not{press the tab key}'
KalamariKing: Notter
Notter: Notter
KalamariKing: yeah! see?
KalamariKing: ezpz
CryptoZenith: Notter
Notter: Yes
KalamariKing: We do try to cut down on unnecessary pings tho, it can get annoying CryptoZenith
Zongle: Are there any tutorials about how to get setup for machine learning during a contest? Like idk how to use an actual IDE but still have the game available, like in the browser
KalamariKing: I have no clue, but would love to know the answer
KalamariKing: Most of the people that I know are good with ml are asleep rn
Zongle: Gotcha. They might just rebuild the whole game in a private environment for all I know. Just wish I knew how the people good at contests even get their environment set up haha
Uljahn: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/53705/contest-tools-and-workflow/introduction
KalamariKing: God I got a lot of reading to catch up on tomorrow :/
davilla: wow hypnotoad is everywhere
KalamariKing: indeed
Notter: It's already May 5th where I'm living
KalamariKing: :o
KalamariKing: time flies
davilla: that means it starts sooner for you :-P
msys: heey
KalamariKing: Hello!
davilla: yeah, ouch, this isn't for me
Notter: Wait
KalamariKing: Wait what
Notter: Why is the start date at May 6th?
KalamariKing: Idk
msys: returning back after years of sleeping haha
davilla: today is May the 4th be with You, tomorrow is 5 de Mayo, couldn't start on a holiday you know
KalamariKing: oh lol
CryptoZenith: lmao
KalamariKing: may 7th is the 127th day of the year and for a coding competition, 127 is a power of two (0-indexed)
KalamariKing: may 6th is just boring
davilla: if I can get technical for a moment, those are formally known as "computer numbers"
KalamariKing: Sure
XeroOl: hahaha I have created a contribution
XeroOl: it is the first step in my plan to world domination
davilla: you're going to dominate the world with Ruby?
XeroOl: I guess lol
davilla: trying to figure out how your code works but I don't get.&it
XeroOl: maybe I should make the example solution more clearly follow the problem lol
davilla: it's just doing a count of the distance, right?
XeroOl: yeah
davilla: because ultimately that's all that burble sort does
XeroOl: the reason I reverse the list is because `inputs.index` finds the first index of the item
XeroOl: but I really want the last index
davilla: oh, index is a function on inputs, and it takes inputs.max as a parameter?
XeroOl: yeah
davilla: Ruby is so weird
XeroOl: ruby lets you leave out parentheses in some cases
XeroOl: I probably should put them in
davilla: well, it's the choice of the language
davilla: to be difficult to read I mean
XeroOl: should I do it in python, and do an actual bubble sort?
joniebear: Ruby is lovely but I follow the path of the 🐍
XeroOl: it would be easier to follow
XeroOl: python can be pretty confusing too lol
davilla: don't worry, I just like complaining
XeroOl: okay, have the same code but with more parentheses
davilla: your solution is fine, approvers have to code their own
davilla: I will approve if you say "Burble Sort is a terrible algorithm..."
XeroOl: lmao
XeroOl: let me code a confusing python one liner first, and then I'll say that
davilla: I'm going to invent a language that doesn't allow one-line programs
davilla: I think I'll call it Java
XeroOl: it will be a bad language lol
XeroOl: you can do some pretty illegal stuff with long lines in java
davilla: I think I'll call it Pascal
XeroOl: those long lines will include ".stream()" in them :)
joniebear: https://pastebin.com/nYC9fusw From a recent CTF where you had to inject code but weren't allowed quotes :P
davilla: +1 good programming practices
XeroOl: hold on should I do this in java then?
davilla: all the true golfers use Bash for what it's worth
joniebear: There's an achievement if you solve a specific puzzle in Bash. It's like walking on broken glass or something :D
davilla: a language that's named after the verb you presume someone used on their keyboard to generate the code
davilla: do you know which puzzle?
joniebear: Yeah, give me a sec
davilla: cool this might be my very first Bash program
joniebear: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/horse-racing-duals
davilla: or I might fail and go live in a hut in the middle of the woods
joniebear: There's also 10xp for the first time you solve a puzzle in a new language, I got 70% of the languages done. Don't drink and code, kids...
davilla: but now your profile is littered with languages
davilla: nevermind I'm not going to start a new language unless I can get 5 bars
joniebear: No, they are neatly listed in a box :) :)
joniebear: Yeah, unfortunately clashes don't count towards that. I don't enjoy the puzzles as much...
davilla: not even the bot programming?
joniebear: Also, there is "Babylon Tower", which requires 100% in 15 languages.
XeroOl: I got that one lol
joniebear: Not even the bots, nah. It's completely outside my domain, so it takes a long time and is frustrating.
davilla: there you go, the Old Testament has stood the test of time
joniebear: I like the clashes because they are shorter problems, bite sized :)
davilla: I don't think you can really say you know a language, unless you can clash in the language
joniebear: define "can clash"
davilla: put it this way: I'd like to redo that branch of the Quest Map in C#, and again in Javascript, etc.
davilla: I only did one clash in each of those languages, and all the others in python
davilla: and I was Googling like mad
joniebear: Because Python is generally superior, except for some cases of "shortest".
davilla: well also because I've been using python for many years now, and only occasionally delve into another language
davilla: but I mean it's hard to disagree with you, that's why I use it :-P
joniebear: I have to admit, I'm a late convert. My daily driver used to be Perl until maybe 2-3 years ago, when I forced myself to use Python instead, even if it took me 10x the time at first.
davilla: Perl is the one they call write-only?
davilla: mostly all regular expressions
joniebear: It has the capability for that, yes. But regular expression are the same in any language. Perl just has them without all the fancy noise around them. I recently had to convert something ancient and unmaintained from Perl into Python, and was surprised how smooth that went.
XeroOl: lmao I got a java that mostly works
XeroOl: but fails on duplicates
XeroOl: with as much code as humanly possible on one line
davilla: RegEx always felt like they were a compression of something that didn't have a more conventional format... kind of when you look at f-strings and you think, why can't they just spell this out, why so cryptic?
XeroOl: f strings aren't that cryptic though?
davilla: one line? I put you up to this
XeroOl: I guess all the formatter properties are a bit funny
XeroOl: it doesn't work because Collections.binarySearch isn't consistent with duplicates
XeroOl: but
XeroOl: here's the monster line:
XeroOl: System.out.println(j.stream().mapToInt(Integer::parseInt).map(x -> {int k = Collections.binarySearch(l, x); l.add(k<0?~k:k, x); return k<0?~k:k; }).sum());
XeroOl: not the only line I wrote
XeroOl: but it's pretty scary looking java
joniebear: f strings aren't cryptic at all. It makes so much sense to write print(f... :D
davilla: when I look at f-strings, I find an example of exactly what I want to do, because if I try to read the docs on it my eyes start to glaze over
XeroOl: ah, yes, lets just use c's printf instead
XeroOl: where everything is better
joniebear: And all the stuff that goes inside, is just regular format() format...
joniebear: And they offer so much room for abuse in shortest clashes 💌
davilla: printf along the same lines... maybe I shouldn't have brought that up as an example
XeroOl: ahh yes, c++'s famously easy formatting system
XeroOl: std::cout << std::setprecision(2) << x << "\n";
davilla: yeah I'm sure RegEx would be great in shortest if you needed pattern matching, but my point is what's the expanded version? there is none
XeroOl: have you ever worked with something called a Parsing Expression Grammer?
XeroOl: PEG?
XeroOl: look up pyPEG
davilla: I've seen formal stuff like this, but haven't coded in anything like it
davilla: maybe in a compilers class or something
XeroOl: well, it's not a trivial thing to express
XeroOl: that's why regex is so useful
davilla: uncondensed RegEx would be something like:
optional("1"), digit, ":", digit, digit, optional(("A" or "P"), "M")
joniebear: But they DID invent RegEx, so we don't have to do that anymore :P
davilla: I mean that could be a RegEx spec
davilla: and if it was, you could actually comment it, and wouldn't that be useful!?
joniebear: I'll look into pyPEG though, that's something I haven't used since the Perl days.
davilla: this is the hour, these are the minutes
joniebear: Fair point, comments would be helpful if you aren't used to reading it.
joniebear: But then you got all these websites now that dissect it for you and explain it.
davilla: and even if you are
davilla: you've never looked back at your Perl code and thought, what was I trying to do here?
kresteodymium: hello world
joniebear: Nah. I have looked at it and not understood why it succeeded at doing what it was supposed to do :D
davilla: heh
davilla: same difference
joniebear: But none of that was because of the RegEx...
joniebear: Most of it comes from dereferencing nested arrays and hashes :D
joniebear: Okay, maybe this one: https://pastebin.com/eJRHti2R
davilla: yeah, I love the comment :D
davilla: :laughing:
joniebear: truth be told, it only exists in that comment. the actual one in use is simple and elegant...
davilla: ah OK
joniebear: alright, out for today. not getting any progress in the clashes right now.
davilla: later
AI_one: {
Smelty: *depression*
spiralpinata: lmao I didnt know comments are also counted
spiralpinata: that would shorten my code by a lot
spiralpinata: I think they should make it so that comments wont be counted as characters in code
cytolytic: bum bum
poweroverwhelming: @lysk
