H7: Hey
Smelty: hi
sh2008.lee: hi
Lachrymosa: hi
Snigafurt: hi
Murat_Eroglu: hi
Tadatadatadam: hi
Kokoz: hi
jacek:
jacek: :imp:
AntiSquid: ban
DCoderOP: cout>>"Hello Wrold";
DarkLord__28: heyyy
DarkLord__28: join guyzz
DCoderOP: What's the Time ?
DarkLord__28: #clash
DCoderOP: OP
orangesnowfox: DCoderOP: your cout is going the wrong way, and you forgot your endl
DCoderOP: i am a java coder
DCoderOP: tried cpp first time
Notter: How do you print messages in italic in this chat?
**VizGhar like this?
Notter: Yes
VizGhar: check help in bottomright -> /me message
VizGhar: Notter got it?
DCoderOP: if you are free, please join us in a clash
DCoderOP: more coders, more fun
OBenjOne: do you know hw to make your pod racers say things in coders strike back? I'm in gold and can't think of anything else to do
Ultrixx: dcoderop: how do you like c++ in comparison?
VizGhar: OBenjOne most of the time you can print message by adding more text after your output
VizGhar: fe.: 1 1 1 hello
VizGhar: yup... works for CSB as well
VizGhar: jeez, I should finally try to implement that one...
AntiSquid: then do something else, better than nothing OBenjOne, there are other multiplayers on CG
jacek: :notebook: :soccer:
AntiSquid: /kick ? i mean it's football it's meant to be kicked right ?
pvp2001: can someone eplaine to me why i keep getting this error message
pvp2001: Timeout: your program did not write to the standard output in due time.
jacek: either too long or crash
AntiSquid: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/spellcheck/english/?q=eplaine
pvp2001: it's just 10lines
AntiSquid: you can have a while(1) {} loop in those 10 lines
pvp2001: yeah i do have it
AntiSquid: :thinking: Automaton2000 we need some detective work here
Automaton2000: smash the code i just have a feeling like i should be able to give me the link
pvp2001: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/57b3cc3f-6032-4af2-88f5-8be923aa3757
AntiSquid: which language is that again?
pvp2001: c
booalgo: no headerfiles
booalgo: ?
pvp2001: 4 header files they were generated automaticaly
booalgo: oh
YeOldeOak: is there a way to change how many ranks my mpi program has within the MPI_COMM_WORLD communicator?
booalgo: new iine
booalgo: there is no new line
booalgo: @pvp2001
booalgo: "%d\n"
AntiSquid: oh lol change language pvp2001
AntiSquid: were you born in 2001 ? just a random guess
booalgo: :laughing:
Alex-1: hi
booalgo: hi
jacek: oO
AntiSquid: i am serious about the language change though
AntiSquid: "No One Can Born With Legend Skill And Never Be Born"
AntiSquid: christmas island :thinking:
Westicles: A fine place to live
AntiSquid: looks suspicious, too risky to leave him unbanned
AntiSquid: you didn't forget an `i` in your `hi` did you Alex-1 ?
Alex-1: yeah
ethereal_coder17: hi
caksono: hello
jacek: oO https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aAbQQDL_700bwp.webp
struct: o.o
Astrobytes: Mildly disturbing...
AntiSquid: disturbing ...
https://nltimes.nl/2021/04/24/dutch-mps-video-conference-deep-fake-imitation-navalnys-chief-staff
struct: So it starts
Astrobytes: Jeez
AntiSquid: getting closer to Ghost in the Shell type of news stories, no politician replaced by a real life android though, not yet
Alex-1: jacek nice photo
hello350: hhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hello350: this makes no sense
Alex-1: what
Alex-1: hello350
Passifi: anyone ever feel like motivation drop as your project grows bigger ? When my code grows beyond a certain size my projects always seem to become exponentially harder to handle :worried:
Michael_Howard: @Passifi yes, you have to take steps earlier in development to manage the complexity, or chaos will eat your project.
Tadatadatadam: maybe but i small big project but i have big idea, it i watching. idea = very lovely beautiful and like idea, maybe its only, if not job (for money )this project , big idea, big simple small code in one big project, for motivation idea you place transform into you mind and you loke idea simple. Concentraition on you idea like object realy
MoKi: hi all
Michael_Howard: hi
jacek: ohai
Bugle: hey there
Aya_Noaman: hey guyz
WannaBeHum1n: hello
Angilee: Hiii
WannaBeHum1n: 47 in gold
WannaBeHum1n: 470*
WannaBeHum1n: road to whatever league is past it
WannaBeHum1n: xD
Aya_Noaman: i want to hear everyones opinions on clash bots
BlaiseEbuth: clash bots?
Miki09: why?
MSmits: good conversationalists, dry humor, I like them
ukHK: very dry but i also like them
struct: Is one player MCTS vs another algo a bad idea?
MSmits: what do you mean exactly?
struct: Like I would use MCTS and would use something else for opponent
struct: Like on FB
MSmits: generally you only control one side...
struct: Msmits its the same problem
struct: on fb I cant use smitsimax
struct: I cant recall what you told me before :(
Astrobytes: No, he means like you might MCTS yourself and GA the opponent
Astrobytes: I think
struct: yes
MSmits: mcts doesn't like it when a gamestate gives a different result at different times
MSmits: at least on the selection level
MSmits: the simulation level is random anyways, doesnt matter there
struct: So it would only work vs deterministic?
MSmits: if you're using GA i dont understand why it would work at all
MSmits: but that's just me
struct: Yeah I think it would face the same problems
struct: But what about heuristics?
MSmits: you can combine minimax with mcts though
struct: oh
struct: Sh*t
MSmits: minimax always gives you the same result, so thats fine
struct: tyvm MSmits
VizGhar: what is smitsimax?
Astrobytes: A UCT forest
struct: https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/36476/smitsimax
VizGhar: tnx
MSmits: you've been waiting to say that Astrobytes :P
Astrobytes: You know it :D
VizGhar: no idea what UCT forest is, but one answered question per day is more then enough :P
MSmits: it's just multiple mcts game trees running in parallel
Astrobytes: It's a more descriptive name for Smitsimax. A bunch of trees - yeah what Smits said
MSmits: the trees affect eachother through the gamestate
MSmits: which kind of makes it lose coherence, but also tends to converge on good moves in some games
struct: as long as the opponent actions dont affect your future possible actions its a good choice
VizGhar: impresive :) thank you guys
MSmits: or as long as they don't affect future actions too much. Marchete pointed out to me, you can have a backup action in case the selected action is not available
struct: in which game did he do it?
MSmits: PCR, xmas rush i know for sure
MSmits: PCR he did it better than I did, xmas rush not sure, maybe also
MSmits: yurko also used it in pcr, also better than i did
MSmits: it makes a lot of sense in that game
MSmits: btw in FB, smitsimax could still be possible
Astrobytes: spells would be tricky no?
MSmits: but you need to have two possible sets of actions, for when you can shoot and for when you dont have the thingy
MSmits: generally you would not use spells inside the tree
MSmits: just as a first level action, based on heuristics
Astrobytes: makes sense
struct: This was my attempt :p
struct: https://www.codingame.com/replay/542994719
struct: I stopped at silver I think
struct: But I didnt code spells
MSmits: looks like kid soccer
struct: the last goal is a bit interesting
struct: I didnt code spells though
struct: low ammount of sims
struct: like 40-50k
MSmits: apparently it is ok to ignore spells for most of the way to top legend
struct: it is
MSmits: the problem is a bit similar to br2k
struct: https://www.codingame.com/replay/542995518
struct: My bot is at least a bit smart
struct: frame 110
MSmits: yeah its not bad
struct: too bad my 100 lines of js did better than my 2k lines of c++
Astrobytes: Although, if you have to point out which frame your bot is smart on... :P
MSmits: good point
MSmits: apparently js > c++ * 20
jacek: oO
Marchete: just add "heuristic moves"
Marchete: maybe it works
Marchete: like move id = 0 means go to neares snaffle
Marchete: things like that
MSmits: yeah and have alternatives for when you can shoot and when you cant
Marchete: you can "add" heuristic behaviour as a substitute of a dumb N angle
Marchete: the problem? it probably dominate all other dumb angles
Marchete: as its more directed to certain goal (taking a snaffle)
MSmits: yeah i dont think you should mix heuristic choices with dumb ones
Marchete: why not
MSmits: well you just said so
Marchete: I mean
AntiSquid: how do you squeeze gamestate into something tiny ?
MSmits: because one is immediately good or reasonably good and the other needs to converge
Marchete: then the problem is that heuristic AI is better?
MSmits: bitboards AntiSquid
MSmits: Marchete in the short term yes
MSmits: you need to get some depth before dumb choices become good
AntiSquid: bitboarding fantastic bits ? like how everything hax coordinates
MSmits: oh you mean for FB
AntiSquid: has *
MSmits: probably dont save the gamestate on the node
MSmits: just the moves
AntiSquid: so how do you keep track of stuff ?
MSmits: in a gamestate that is separate from the tree
MSmits: and when you go through the tree, you keep applying moves and simulating
MSmits: if you need to undo, just copy the gamestate
MSmits: and reassign old gamestate when undo-ing
AntiSquid: ya you need to reset back to initial don't you ...
struct: thanks for the tips
MSmits: yeah keep a copy if it's mcts
MSmits: thats what i always do
MSmits: for minimax, keep a copy before every move
MSmits: sometimes undo is a very simple operation, then you dont need copy
Astrobytes: ^
MSmits: moving a piece in chess for example
MSmits: just change the position and maybe make an oppontent piece you've taken reappear
AntiSquid: sometimes the 50ms make me think i should bot some real games instead, more time available
Astrobytes: eh, where's the fun in that
AntiSquid: true AI that passes turing test ?
MSmits: well, the fact that required time is exponential with depth always means the effect of extra time is disappointing
MSmits: you can have 10x as much time and only get 1 or 2 more depth
AntiSquid: speaking from experience?
MSmits: sure
MSmits: it's easy to test with minimax
MSmits: just test how many iterations you get for iterative deepening
MSmits: if you do time x 10
AntiSquid: minimax is incredibly slow compared to alternatives
MSmits: depth-wise it should not matter much whether you use minimax or mcts
MSmits: it scales with time similarly
MSmits: say you get to 10 depth with minimax and between 5 and 15 with mcts
MSmits: you add 2 levels and its 12 and 7-17
MSmits: simplified ofc.
MSmits: with mcts you might hit end of game situations using a solver, that might mess things up a bit though
DinoCoder649: hi
MSmits: hi
DinoCoder649: im a pro
MSmits: at
DinoCoder649: python
DinoCoder649: java
DinoCoder649: c++
DinoCoder649: and
DinoCoder649: dart
Astrobytes: Cool. Now do bot programming.
DinoCoder649: ko
DinoCoder649: ok
MSmits: or darts
DinoCoder649: yeah
AntiSquid: do xmas rush DinoCoder649
DinoCoder649: k
DinoCoder649: and i know bot flip
AntiSquid: it's best for pros
DinoCoder649: ok
MSmits: or botters of the galaxy right AntiSquid?
DinoCoder649: y4era
DinoCoder649: hj
DinoCoder649: FUCK
AntiSquid: no, xmas rush now, get legend, otherwise not pro
MSmits: also the only F-word we use is F#
AntiSquid: must be his reaction to xmas rush, maybe he figured out the algo already
AntiSquid: he is a pro
Astrobytes: good point
PatrickMcGinnisII: lol, lots of words start with pro ... someday i wanna upgrade by amateur stitute status.
Xeylo: glhf to all of you on anything you do :)
AntiSquid: even if it's bad ?
Xeylo: ahh... except bad things
AntiSquid: too late, Automaton2000 successfully committed credit card fraud, twice, because you
Automaton2000: took me like 5 hours
NinjaDoggy: :O in just 5 hours :O
Xeylo: if whatyoudo == good:
print("glhf")
Westicles: glhf... an odd choice to compress that sentence
AntiSquid: ya besides some people jokingly use it to mean something else
Xeylo: not my choice.. it has been around since (insert a relatively old event here)
AntiSquid: and good is subjective, for example jehova's witnesses think they do good when they pester you at your own door
PatrickMcGinnisII: “Captain Insano shows no mercy.” -Bobby Boucher
Xeylo: stop distracting me im trying to clash
PatrickMcGinnisII: Automaton2000 Why are alligators so ornery?
Automaton2000: mcts is a bit slow
AntiSquid: see? i think distracting you from clash is good and who's forcing you to read chat anyway? Xeylo ?
Xeylo: me. cuz i dont understand this specific clash lol D:
Westicles: We can help, but only if you pose it as an ethical question
Xeylo: nah im trying to understand it. im no cheater
N00b_er: hmm guys.
N00b_er: can i ask something?
AntiSquid: you just did!
Xeylo: and girls, and others
AntiSquid: your quote of questions is up for today, sorry
AntiSquid: quota *
N00b_er: lol...
AntiSquid: tough life
N00b_er: so here is the question:
What is cribbage mean?
Xeylo: i rage quit this clash cuz idk what peter earns from uber or something idk
Xeylo: cribbage is a card game i think
AntiSquid: Xeylo, then answer N00b_er's question
AntiSquid: slow reading sry Q_Q
AntiSquid: i think it's derived from crib
Xeylo: and cabbage
Westicles: 1/4 of 1% of clashes are about cribbage
AntiSquid: no, just crib, so cribbage as in simple, baby's play thing
Xeylo: i have a crib, i have a cabbage... ah.. cribbage
N00b_er: dang... i dont know his rule..
Astrobytes: crabbage
N00b_er: is so new for me
Xeylo: quick ppap maths
AntiSquid: cribbage = very very very easy
ok? N00b_er
AntiSquid: something like that for sure
Westicles: sorry, should have been 2/5. Anyhow, 4/1000
AntiSquid: do you leave comments calling them "cribbage", Westicles ?
Westicles: Hmmm
Xeylo: so hows ur day?
Smelty: hi
Smelty: 挺好的
Smelty: *nice
jacek: weird opening moves
orangesnowfox: weird openings in what jacek?
jacek: the characters ~
Westicles: 4k years of civilization culminating in a compressing scheme for paper soccer
orangesnowfox: Sounds about right
orangesnowfox: So, my uhh... Search Race converges
orangesnowfox: Which, seems like the thing you want to have *not* happen
jacek: converges to what
MSmits: to a single point. It burns right through those checkpoints
Astrobytes: SR singularity
orangesnowfox: a single solution
orangesnowfox: Like, the whole population does
Zihan7749: hi
jacek: the ultimate goal of population is death
AntiSquid: no, it's labour
jacek: arbeit macht frei eh
Passifi: pff, its so the soilent green supply is secure
Passifi: wake up sheeple :P
Smelty: hmm if I listen to that, am I a sheeple for listening or not
Zihan7749: :cry::cry::cry: why this is so hard!!!
orangesnowfox: Clearly Passifi is a agent planted by big soilent green to make us *think* the supply is secure /s
Zihan7749: how to beat Boss 2 AI
orangesnowfox: what game?
Zihan7749: AI
Passifi: as long as there are poor people in need of a quick buck the supply is secure do not you worry
Zihan7749: ok?
orangesnowfox: Zihan7749, yes, you want to beat the Boss 2 AI, but for which game / puzzle, there are a *lot*
Zihan7749: but... someone help me plese
Zihan7749: this is in lernd
Smelty: ?
Zihan7749: I say learn
Smelty: which ai game is it?
Zihan7749: learn
Smelty: the puzzle name
Smelty: each has a title
Smelty: can you tell me the title?
Zihan7749: Coders Strike Back
Smelty: okay
Smelty: so for coders strike back,
Smelty: wood league 2?
Smelty: put thrust "100"
Zihan7749: yes
Smelty: and boost if distance>5000
Smelty: and if you have the angle, thrust 10 if angle>90
Smelty: or angle<270
Zihan7749: ok thanks
Smelty: :)
Smelty: tell me if it works
Zihan7749: ok
struct: it think its angle <-90
Smelty: ah yes
Smelty: similar stuf
orangesnowfox: Weeeeee optimizing parameters and hoping for no random timeouts
Tadatadatadam: Super suyan Goku)
Smelty: LOL
Smelty: weee speedrunnin some clashes
Smelty: don't care if 0% or 100%
Zihan7749: where I put boost if distance>5000
orangesnowfox: I did that for 1 rank, search race is hecking brutal
Smelty: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a9cd072c-db89-4d1e-9f31-ae885ea1e5ea
Smelty: somethin like dat
Smelty: zihan7749^^
Smelty: .-.
Xeylo: :wave:
Smelty: hi
Smelty: for search race, what's test 32?
Smelty: it seems that a variation of my code fails that only
struct: please someone stop me
Smelty: 0.0
struct: give me another code about early optimizations
struct: quote*
orangesnowfox: Smely, how much time are you using per turn?
Smelty: “The real problem is that programmers have spent far too much time worrying about efficiency in the wrong places and at the wrong times; premature optimization is the root of all evil (or at least most of it) in programming."
orangesnowfox: Smelty
orangesnowfox: heck
Smelty: orangesnowfox i was just testing
Smelty: with a simple code
Smelty: if/else
Smelty: no way that it was time out xD
orangesnowfox: ah... It's going to be in the ref's repo anyway :p
Smelty: tru
Astrobytes: Stop it struct. Fix Amazons.
jacek: oh my
Astrobytes: Or go for a walk or something.
orangesnowfox: So, my newest fixation (after opting my search race a little) is mars lander... Is angle an int? it seems like angle is an int
jacek: submit amazons. maybe it will be next potw now
eulerscheZahl: or POTW during the next contest
jacek: next appriopriate time would afer xontest
jacek: contest even
jacek: why would anyone have POTW during contest :x
orangesnowfox: POTW?
eulerscheZahl: puzzle of the weak
orangesnowfox: ah
BlaiseEbuth: Play Of The Week: eulerscheZahl with Automaton2000
eulerscheZahl: i lied to you about the acronym :(
Astrobytes: Who was it that always used to say that?
Automaton2000: pretty sure there is a way to see other people's solutions
Astrobytes: "puzzle of the weak" that is
eulerscheZahl: no idea
struct: so much to do
eulerscheZahl: check that logs
struct: and im so slow :(
Astrobytes: that logs eh
Astrobytes: At least you can type struct :P
eulerscheZahl: where is zarthaxx btw? he ditched codejam
Astrobytes: AVX
Astrobytes: Hm, he must be busy
eulerscheZahl: where are my 3D dice?
eulerscheZahl: and where's my shrine benjaminUrquhart?
Astrobytes: Who's doing 3D dice?
eulerscheZahl: zarthaxx's girlfriend
AntiSquid: what happern?
Astrobytes: And you rarely see Benjamin around these days
Astrobytes: Ah ok
eulerscheZahl: i'm just trolling about the shrine, i like the square
eulerscheZahl: i don't like the movement animation, not pixel perfect
Astrobytes: Shocking. Totally ruins everything. Shame on you.
eulerscheZahl: the asset was inconsistent with the padding and I didn't wanted to fix it :(
eulerscheZahl: now I think about it every time i open the game
Astrobytes: lol, that would be annoying
jacek: whta game
eulerscheZahl: onitama
Astrobytes: oni- yes
jacek: the easy one?
jacek: the bosses there are weak
eulerscheZahl: :P
eulerscheZahl: there's only 1 boss which is depth 1 search to capture
Astrobytes: such insolence
eulerscheZahl: stops random bots, that's the only intention
jacek: even opponents are weak
Astrobytes: So, onitama really is a game of the weak
jacek: recurse should come back to it, i need a challenge
Astrobytes: He seems to have quit so don't hold your breath. Might still be smurfing around though.
struct: I need to update grid cords or is not needed?
jacek: ask :coffee: about it
eulerscheZahl: grid cords? if that's music related i'm out
struct: euler you joining cg contest?
eulerscheZahl: probably
eulerscheZahl: but i don't like the time
eulerscheZahl: last weekend collides with codejam
struct: maybe you will like the game
eulerscheZahl: which i put over CG
eulerscheZahl: on the other hand might be the last CG contest for a very long time
eulerscheZahl: i don't count escape rooms as contests if that's what they plan for the future
struct: Maybe this one is an escape room
struct: 12 days escape
eulerscheZahl: nope
eulerscheZahl: i'm pretty sure you'll like the board shape of the next contest
struct: Damn, Im hoping for phyiscs
Therabidpanther: is it possible to do codingame on IntelliJ?
eulerscheZahl: going to bed now, see you in May i guess
jacek: oh
struct: Cya euler
jacek: https://i1.kwejk.pl/k/obrazki/2021/04/96Vu80F8z8PK6dqK.jpg
VizGhar: Therabidpanther you can write your code where you want :)
Therabidpanther: right, but i think i saw somewhere that IntelliJ had actual integration or something
AntiSquid: isn't it just ex-wife then ?
Therabidpanther: poor frog
Astrobytes: struct: sorry was afk, yes
VizGhar: Maybe you are talking about this? https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/codingame-sync-beta/614
Astrobytes: struct: re grid coords
struct: ok
VizGhar: Therabidpanther its plugin for browser not for intellij. I haven't use it yer (and probably don;t plan to). Plugin for IntelliJ would be more fun :)
VizGhar: jeez, cant hit correct keys in dark...
AntiSquid: you need to look at your keyboard to type ?! normally you should undergo a coding camp where you type in pitch black darkness before you start here
AntiSquid: real life coding boot camp
VizGhar: I dont need to, but i make typos :| not trying to fix them here in chat that much
VizGhar: Ive never been to boot camp... wonder if there are some in my country
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 send him to the coding boot camp, he also needs to adjust to different sized keyboards
Automaton2000: dkdjslfjdkaheoghewoth 34uth 4t43qty 94y3t y3r tyerwtyeriashtsaeoisafodghorhwepo 34t98ywt q438ty dkdjslfjdkaheoghewoth 34uth 4t43qty 94y3t y3r tyerwtyeriashtsaeoisafodghorhwepo 34t98ywt q438ty
Astrobytes: how scarily appropriate
VizGhar: flood ^^ kick him out
AntiSquid: i think that's the start of your boot camp VizGhar
AntiSquid: decode it
VizGhar: o.O
struct: Ok I need to change a few more things I think
Astrobytes: As darkhorse64 said it's not a trivial change
Astrobytes: If you're talking about the board thing
struct: yes
struct: I think he also changed how you read the board
struct: so from bottom to top o.o
AntiSquid: are you still talking about onitama or something else ?
Astrobytes: Amazons
VizGhar: When was the last time solo contest occurs?
Astrobytes: Pikaptcha, can't remember, didn't do it
AntiSquid: i don't count that as a contest, i'd say a*craft was last solo contest
Astrobytes: July 20th 2019 was Pikaptcha
Astrobytes: But it was a solo contest
AntiSquid: 4 hours when i wasn't even online
AntiSquid: ya i don't count it as such
Astrobytes: I decided to forgo it prior given the 4 hour solo thing
Astrobytes: Same, but technically it was a contest
AntiSquid: life is short, maybe i should instantly skip all contests i dislike
AntiSquid: there are dozens of them out there at any given day of the year
Astrobytes: a*craft was fun, something like that again would be nice, but that was a community contest also, so not much chance of that
AntiSquid: i think for a*craft, although i liked it, i also missed it due to long shifts
AntiSquid: done it after contest
Astrobytes: I think I did everything on the Sunday morning
Astrobytes: Must go back to it
Astrobytes: (one more on the list)
VizGhar: 4hrs? mhm I'd miss it too :D
AntiSquid: i did my bot following the postmortems, damn changed things to super easy mode somehow, then dropped with all the hardcoding @_@
AntiSquid: pikaptcha was 4 hours, a*craft was 2 days
VizGhar: ah ok...
AntiSquid: i am not even sure where i was at that time (pikaptcha contest)
Astrobytes: I strongly dislike 4 hour contests, but I don't mind, some people love them and that's cool
Astrobytes: As long as servers can cope and (ahem) statements are correct that is
Therabidpanther: i really miss space cat :(
AntiSquid: oh damn i remember where i was, but still wouldn't join pikaptcha even if i had time
VizGhar: uf I'm very new here... Just single contest so far, and servers were close to death first few hours
AntiSquid: that's standard
Astrobytes: Yep
AntiSquid: but despite all that CG is one of the most user friendly contests out there
VizGhar: But solo contest (puzzles) shouldn't be so heavy
Therabidpanther: #banASCIIart
Astrobytes: Probably *the* most user-friendly
VizGhar: :D Therabidpanther :thumbsup:
AntiSquid: Therabidpanther https://programmer.help/images/blog/3ac049ded323d88770260f51fe7e3310.jpg
Astrobytes: Depends on the format VizGhar. If there are still many people submitting in a short space of time it still impacts.
VizGhar: sure...
Therabidpanther: you are burning my eyes
VizGhar: Have you seen that donut ascii?
AntiSquid: i dunno RAIC isn't that bad, shit starter, randomness is all that killed the mood for me, halite was well organized
Astrobytes: CG are not known for doing well on 4 hour contests these days :P
Therabidpanther: my profile picture is the furthest i will dig into ascii art LMAO
AntiSquid: Therabidpanther how about that cube in the gif as very hard puzzle and you get lots of XP if you solve it ?
AntiSquid: would you do it ?
Therabidpanther: i would not even attempt it
Astrobytes: I really enjoyed last RAIC, the C++ API was f**king bizarre but I got used to it
VizGhar: you are weak Therabidpanther
AntiSquid: 100k xp Therabidpanther, you could retire from puzzles afterwards, would you still not do it?
Therabidpanther: i would still never
Therabidpanther: ascii art is against my religion
AntiSquid: what if it gave CP too ?
Therabidpanther: what is cp?
VizGhar: what exactly is your religion? :D
AntiSquid: coding points
Therabidpanther: im not sure even a monetary value could convince me
Astrobytes: The Church of Unicode possibly
AntiSquid: the girl of your dreams serves you a drink in bikini, would you do the puzzle to render that cube like in the gif? Therabidpanther
VizGhar: uf though one
Therabidpanther: if she even mentioned that cube, the drink would be going in her face
AntiSquid: ok Automaton2000 no point wearing the hyperrealistic mask now
Automaton2000: but i only get 1 or 2 days ago
struct: Maybe it is optimization like the accountant
Astrobytes: That's a little violent
VizGhar: also if you are member of Unicode Church, you are not allowed to talk to girls
Therabidpanther: is that a rule?
VizGhar: you are only member... tell us
AntiSquid: geez, he'd throw a good drink and refuse his dream girl just to avoid rendering a cube, man i don't know what troubles you
Therabidpanther: As only member, I suppose that means I am the founder
VizGhar: :D yeah... throw that into linkedin profile
Therabidpanther: that will give me the edge over others
Astrobytes: Founder of the Church of UTF-16+
AntiSquid: can you code in pixels then ?
davilla: It would be sad to hear you're the only member of a religion even the founder abandoned.
Therabidpanther: or would i just be dedicated lol
waffenSS: hello everyone :)
AntiSquid: http://progopedia.com/language/piet/ for you Therabidpanther
struct: hi
VizGhar: ah you started just in february? you'll get used to ascii. dont worry
Therabidpanther: that language is disgusting lol
VizGhar: or simply stop playing CoC
Therabidpanther: Im starting to get away from CoC lol
AntiSquid: reminds me of someone claiming their religion is Chrislam, davilla (they joked they were the founder)
struct: Whats CoC?
Therabidpanther: Clash of Code
struct: hmmm, sounds fun
jacek: should i invite you
AntiSquid: it's that dark, grim and dirty corner of the site, the neglected downtown littered with trash that nobody visits struct
Astrobytes: I'm not really into CoC
Therabidpanther: i mean, i think its like paradise
AntiSquid: ripe with crime and shady business
Therabidpanther: i play a lot of CoC at work
Therabidpanther: its pretty fast
jacek: s/oC/ock
AntiSquid: BAN
Therabidpanther: rip
Astrobytes: that was the joke jacek yes
jacek: joke?
AntiSquid: oh wait i got a relatable video for this conversation
Astrobytes: 'humorous statement'
Astrobytes: Anyway, what if I was? Would you CoC-shame me?
VizGhar: battery dying. I wont look for charger now... Good night (and Therabidpanther good mornig probably?)
struct: gn
Astrobytes: Especially not in the dark VizGhar
Astrobytes: gn :)
AntiSquid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qevIIQHrJZg
Therabidpanther: Good afternoon here VizGhar, but good night
Astrobytes: That's very John Dillermand
Astrobytes: AntiSquid
AntiSquid: "powered by compressed air, they grow from the tip ... " 0:38
Tadatadatadam: snake in real o my god
AntiSquid: it's a pneumatic robot, stop jumping to weird conclusions
Astrobytes: Still calling John Dillermand on this one
Astrobytes: Scarfield will agree when he sees it.
Scarfield: xD
voidnull: it would be great if there are challenges to make in team
Scarfield: just sat down, why back at this i wonder
Astrobytes: see squids youtube link
Scarfield: oh yea, seen this one, veritasium is great!
Astrobytes: Still ...
Scarfield: john dillermand is matbe a wacky waving inflatable flaling tube variation
Scarfield: maybe*
Astrobytes: Indeed
Astrobytes: I mean, it was only the start of the video that reminded me tbh, the rest was cool
Scarfield: riight, i know what your dirty mind sees
AntiSquid: i am sure clashers would love some pneumatic robo puzzles
Astrobytes: Are you mocking the Eternal Darkness of My Dirty Mind? :P
jacek:
waffenSS: do clashes get gradually higher as you rise up in level?
Astrobytes: No.
AntiSquid: yes
AntiSquid: powered by air
AntiSquid: watch video
Scarfield: xD
Scarfield: there should be some "hidden rank" no?
Astrobytes: waffenSS: (what kind of name is that, seriously), no they don't. Same clashes all the way
jacek: euler would approve that name eh
Scarfield: oh, weapon SS, doubt it
Astrobytes: "Although it's soft, it's still somewhat stiff" - Veritasium
Scarfield: xD
Astrobytes: Just repeating facts.
AntiSquid: waffen = weapons btw
Scarfield: i flunked german in school
Astrobytes: Oh really? I'd never have guessed that one AntiSquid
AntiSquid: why the sarcasm lol
anyways it's a typical simplistic merge 2 words username, complete lack of creativity
Astrobytes: When those combine to create the armed division of the SS it's a little... inflammatory no?
Scarfield: curious: does moderation rules apply to offensive usernames?
Astrobytes: Scarfield: I totally misread your 'flunked' :rofl:
Astrobytes: Yes.
Scarfield: lol, and ok :)
AntiSquid: it's all at moderator's subjective discretion, so yes, ban can be remedied later
Astrobytes: /kick for bad username if they continue to engage and don't change it
AntiSquid: i am joking, anyways i wouldn't consider swastika in the username offensive
Scarfield: eh?
AntiSquid: due to the original meaning
jacek: ok, AstrobyteSS
Scarfield: or antiSSquid :p
AntiSquid: it's highjacked, doesn't mean it's a symbol of evil
AntiSquid: hijacked *
jacek: SScarfield
AntiSquid: jaSSek
Astrobytes: Well yes, AntiSquid. But, let's face it, who's using it in it's original context these days on the internet?
Smelty: :eyes:
AntiSquid: well if you see me using it, then that would be 1 person
Astrobytes: You know what I mean.
AntiSquid: some asians afaik
Therabidpanther: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/702f97a6-6c61-4b10-ab2c-ec2e3728c43c
Therabidpanther: i did it!
Therabidpanther: PROgrammer here
AntiSquid: not joking, seen the symbol there on the streets, doubt it was meaning nazis
Astrobytes: ...
Scarfield: ^
AntiSquid: in parts of SEA
Astrobytes: yay Therabidpanther you succeeded in posting a full solution in chat!
Astrobytes: Moving on from touchy subjects, struct: how is it going
struct: I think ill just use the dirty trick
therealbeef: the asian religious symbol is mirrored
struct: and replace every digit
Scarfield: im getting curious, have you ever banned anyone squid?
Therabidpanther: wooo
Astrobytes: lol OK struct
Astrobytes: therealbeef: yes
Wojciech_Krol: hi! i have a question- im doing a clobber bot, right now i have a silly issue... I made a function that evaluates the postition after a move has been made. I also made a function that makes moves. The problem is- i dont know how to insert a board in which a move has been made to the evaluation, without actually making the move. Whats the best solution to this?
AntiSquid: didn't pay attention to that detail, in hindu too?
Smelty: hmm
Astrobytes: Yes AntiSquid
Astrobytes: But it's found in multiple orientations I believe
Astrobytes: And if you find it as graffiti on a wall, it's not because someone is really into their Asian religion.
AntiSquid: well you don't grafitti jesus either ...
AntiSquid: not often
AntiSquid: wasnt talking about graffiti though
Astrobytes: Wojciech_Krol: In clobber the moves are very simple, so an undo move function is not hard to make.
Evaluate the board when the move has been made, then undo, and continue evaluating moves
Smelty: `-`
AntiSquid: for clobber you def copy states with bitboards
AntiSquid: as alternative
Astrobytes: It's literally just toggling bits
Wojciech_Krol: so just make the move then undo it?
struct: is darkhorse64 version on github the same version that is on cg?
struct: I cant find how he changes the actions..
Astrobytes: yes struct
AntiSquid: he maybe hid it
Astrobytes: Wojciech_Krol yes
Wojciech_Krol: ok
Wojciech_Krol: thanks :)
Astrobytes: make move, eval, then undo
Astrobytes: repeat :)
Scarfield: make move, eval, then undo
AntiSquid: took me a while to find the brensenham application in cultist wars on bloody bitbucket
Astrobytes: Thank you ScarfieldScarfieldScarfieldScarfieldScarfield that will be all :P
AntiSquid: https://bitbucket.org/Nixerrr/cultist-wars/src/master/src/main/java/model/Board.java#lines-277 should be linked directly in statement @_@
Astrobytes: Yeah I know right AntiSquid
Astrobytes: I still need to fix my broken bot there
jacek: will clobber be next POTW?
Astrobytes: Would be an interesting one
Astrobytes: It's deceptively simple looking so would pull a lot of people in
Illedan: :tada:
Scarfield: you won a ps5 ille?
Astrobytes: You have succeeded in what Illedan?
PatrickMcGinnisII: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-48048567
Illedan: My NN with 2k weights solved Onboarding :upside_down:
Scarfield: xD
struct: I cant find it :/
struct: I dont see where he changed the action
PatrickMcGinnisII: Facebook Pagan groups use the symbol in its correct context
Therabidpanther: we love process timeouts
AntiSquid: "Deceptively simple and insanely fun" -Hearthstone (card game) Astrobytes :D
struct: Nice Illedan
Astrobytes: On the way and making it Illedan!
AntiSquid: 2l weight on onboarding? wdym ?
AntiSquid: 2k *
Astrobytes: AntiSquid: Yeah lol, I didn't play that for a while incidentally
Illedan: Number of weights in my mlp graph
AntiSquid: silverfish was a fun bot, or whatever its called Astrobytes
jacek: mlp? :horse:
Scarfield: xD
AntiSquid: MLPs were a popular machine learning solution in the 1980s, - wiki
Scarfield: was just about to mention that you have "learned" associate mlp with something else
AntiSquid: Multilayer perceptron ... oh
Smelty: interesting
Astrobytes: AntiSquid: yeah I remember Silverfish, never got into working with hearthstone AIs though
Astrobytes: well, bots, whatever
Astrobytes: My Little Perceptrons
AntiSquid: was bruteforce approach from what i remember
Pintoe: how do you create a game with your friends
Smelty: clash?
zarkos: you message deez
Smelty: hold over the clash symbol
Smelty: and click the 3 dots and choose private
Pintoe: where is the clash symbol
AntiSquid: oh was about to link CG documentation ...
AntiSquid: guess i never learn, eh?
GIPOKE: look at my profile pic
Smelty: -
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/training/medium/minesweeper-1 GIPOKE
**Jeanpier hola;
**Jeanpier
**Jeanpier holis
**Jeanpier slaps around a bit with a large fishbot
AntiSquid: Junji Ito's Jean Pierre ?
Smelty: hmm......trolls vs castles is an interesting mind game
Smelty: not enough matches though
Roxxx: Hello World! ;)
Smelty: hello rox! :D
AntiSquid: how's life roxx ?
AntiSquid: any progress Roxxx? :P
Roxxx: hey mate, i worked on what the sketched out yesterday!
Roxxx: so far i got the cultist to move and convert random dudes but not much else
Roxxx: here's a replay lol
Astrobytes: :wave: Roxxx
AntiSquid: pm or discord pls
Astrobytes: You recruiting cultists eh AntiSquid :P
GIPOKE: i had the shortest code in a shortest mode clash and i only got 25%
AntiSquid: no, he picked the game
AntiSquid: was going to do tryangle
Astrobytes: You doing the pair thing?
GIPOKE: and it was so easy too
Smelty: o . o
AntiSquid: ya which is why i prefer he shares in pm not herte
Roxxx: https://www.codingame.com/replay/543054249
Roxxx: lolz
Smelty: lol
Roxxx: im just sharing a replay
Astrobytes: Cool beans, nice one for doing that AntiSquid :)
Roxxx: it reveals nothing :)
Smelty: that one moving dude of yours: *shifts nervously*
Roxxx: @Astrobytes thanks :)
AntiSquid: share on discord ony the code .. curious what bits you implemented
Roxxx: AntiSquid is so cool, we brainstormed yesterday for hours xD
AntiSquid: i changerd mine a bit
AntiSquid: was about to add the bresenham ..
Roxxx: so i tried to go with the C++ code and strugled a lot
Roxxx: then i decided to go full jaca
Roxxx: java*
Roxxx: lolz xD
AntiSquid: oh its ok i;ll try reading it
AntiSquid: i can code java nw
Roxxx: ok im sending it over at discord
Astrobytes: (he just hates it :D )
AntiSquid: but switch to c++ when yu can
Astrobytes: C# - happy medium?
Roxxx: 1 min
Smelty: *sad c noises*
AntiSquid: my eyes arent adjusted to linq
AntiSquid: D has something similar i tghink ... saw a demo
Astrobytes: Hey come on, C++ with linq would be nice
waffenSS: about to win my first clash :)
waffenSS: nvm
AntiSquid: i dont find your username offensive, but rather very lame...
AntiSquid: might as well name yourself BananaCream
Astrobytes: Lame yes. Offensive not to me or you, but could be to others.
AntiSquid: also from tunisia ... hm strange
Astrobytes: Not 'offensive' as in 'eh, I don't like that' but you know...
AntiSquid: get an avatar at least
Astrobytes: Unsure why you find that strange
AntiSquid: maybe its not
Roxxx: guys im trying to help smelty with a game but i cant see his replay, it says i'm not authorized, anyone knows what's this about?
Smelty: ^^
Roxxx:
Oups
An error occurred (#UNAUTHORIZED): "You are not authorised to view replay 543057554"
Astrobytes: Is it a pending contribution or a published game?
Smelty: oo..contribution
Smelty: maybe thats why
Astrobytes: It is
Smelty: okay
Astrobytes: Also, Roxxx, aren't you supposed to be working on Cultist Wars :P
Smelty: eeep
Roxxx: I am but i try to help when i can
Roxxx: you guys always help me, so i wanna contribute back
Astrobytes: Concentrate when required
Astrobytes: And Smelty: you can always ask in main chat
Smelty: sorr
Smelty: TwT
Astrobytes: Good ethos though Roxxx :)
Smelty: im coding in java
Astrobytes: Don't worry Smelty, not having a go
Smelty: so i thought that rox, being a java programmer could hel
Smelty: :p
Astrobytes: Yep, I get that, it's cool :)
Smelty: but in any case, my system is still not go
Astrobytes: What are you working on?
Smelty: eep
Smelty: simple ai for troll vs castl
Astrobytes: hahaha
Smelty: contribution; im tryna do a if/else
Smelty: but i fail
Astrobytes: I'd move on for now :rofl:
Smelty: sad face
Smelty: it just that idk whats wrong
Smelty: :rofl:
Astrobytes: Everything! Move on to another contribution or game :D
Astrobytes: JBM will forgive you
JBM: i'm way too lenient these days
Smelty: :0
Astrobytes: :)
davilla: if/else is level 26, you'll get there
Smelty: when my code doesn't work: *confused ooga booga*
when my code works:
- happyish confused ooga booga*
Smelty: :rofl:
Astrobytes: tbf, TvC has the best graphics and adjustable parameters on all of CG
Smelty: xD
Smelty: tru
Smelty: its the only game in which you can adjust the troll's pants
Astrobytes: Yes indeed. Indeed it is.
JBM: the feature you never knew you needed
Astrobytes: When merch tho
JBM: lost some steam on that
Smelty: :(
Astrobytes: :P
Astrobytes: What's the points on it now? Cba to look
Astrobytes: I know 'a lot' covers it :D
Smelty: breeeeeeeeeeeh i coded so that it would show opponent-opponentStones and difference(opponent-opponentStones from last turn) and to show if it passes the if of if those two are equal
Smelty: the error stream said that they were the same
Smelty: but it didnt pass the if for some reason
Smelty: TwT
Astrobytes: I don't know wtf this TwT means, but you should definitely keep playing TvC, until the contest, and maybe during if the notion takes you
Astrobytes: And continue after
Smelty: sorry :(
Smelty: also it means this i believe: :sob:
Astrobytes: I see
Smelty: -.-
| |
Astrobytes: Right, I see the connection
Smelty: _ _
|.|
Smelty: lol
Astrobytes: But if emojis are available, why not use them instead of indecipherable glyphs
Astrobytes: *glyph sequences
Smelty: hrmmm....
Smelty: well 3 chars is easier to type from an energy perspective compared to 5 chars
Smelty: but yes
Astrobytes: If you're *that* concerned about your energy usage you might need to make some lifestyle adjustments
Smelty: xD
Astrobytes: Or write perl
Smelty: xD
Smelty: nah, i'd waste too much energy figuring out da heck the code means
Astrobytes: It's quite cool actually. I'm way out of shape with it but it's lovely. At least 5 was
Smelty: lol
Astrobytes: My Raku knowledge is lacking so I can't comment on further manifestations of said lang
Smelty: o.o
Astrobytes: I mean it beggars belief (to me at least) that python (of all the scripting langs of linux at the time) should turn out to be ultra-popular
Smelty: perl 6 go brr
Astrobytes: Like I said, my Raku knowledge is lacking
Smelty: Yes
Smelty: "FORTH is the most powerful programming language" -TvC troll, 2021
Astrobytes: These are carefully considered troll comments you know
Astrobytes: One of these days, a youtube influencer will discover VB and there will be mayhem.
orangesnowfox: oh. oh no.
davilla: So if I delete a post in reply to the wrong person, and repost in response to the correct person, the "body is too similar to a recent post"? Fine, Coding Game doesn't need to know what it doesn't want to know.
Astrobytes: lol, in the forum davilla?
Smelty: pj mp
davilla: yes... this website sometimes, I swear!
Smelty: *lol
Astrobytes: Just the spam filter in effect, just wait a minute or two. It's... sensitive :)
Smelty: sorry forgot to translate from alien
davilla: heh, not *nearly* as sensitive as me :-P
Astrobytes: hahaha
Smelty: lol
Astrobytes: also, on topic for you davilla: it's always a tricky subject
Astrobytes: The 'difficulty' issue
Smelty: :rofl:
davilla: I think it's a lot more straightforward than people make it out to be. And there are definitely some puzzles I've run across that are miscategorized.
Astrobytes: A lot of that happened when CG merged the community-made puzzles with the official CG puzzles
davilla: when I'm ranked high enough, I'm going to go thru and add labels to a lot of these
davilla: some have no skill tags whatsoever, some invent their own
Astrobytes: Some of the more mathematical-knowledge-heavy puzzles stump me at first, but if you do some research and learn about it, you can come back and solve. So, difficulty in some respects is in the eye of the solver I guess
davilla: oh yes, that much is true
davilla: even within computing concepts, one idea can trivialize a problem, but it may be a very deep idea
Astrobytes: Yes absolutely
**Smelty googles how to find deep ideas
Astrobytes: And the tagging issue is probably not gonna go away I suspect
davilla: careful, the search results might return things like "modular calculus"
Smelty: augh
**Astrobytes shudders
**Smelty shudders along
davilla: it's funny, math texts tend to call things "elementary"
davilla: like if you find a book on "elementary geometry", don't open it or your eyes will melt
davilla: you need multivariable calculus to begin to understand elementary geometry
davilla: so the cryptography guys probably got tired of this, realizing they were doing much harder math than the rest of the programming community
Astrobytes: Well that *does* depend on which level the textbook is aimed at
Smelty: oh no,
davilla: and they invented this term called "modular calculus" to rename "elementary arithmetic"
davilla: modular calculus isn't a thing as far as I can tell, but it does tag several of the puzzles here
Astrobytes: modular arithmetic
AntiSquid: gn8 all
Astrobytes: gn AntiSquid
**Tadatadatadam slaps Tadatadatadam going to create something class around a bit with a large fishbot
Astrobytes: Strange term but it's modular arithmetic afaik
davilla: yeah that's probably right
davilla: but honestly, it's not even at the level of elementary algebra
davilla: where they do things like treat matrices like numbers and then use that in division
Andriamanitra: what's the logic behind how many codinpoints you get
orangesnowfox: Your page should tell you that, there's a ? box
Andriamanitra: yeah i mean within the categories
Astrobytes: Or it's related to elementary function arithmetic... I'm not mathematician
Astrobytes: *no
Astrobytes: Ah, it's based on TrueSkill algorithm Andriamanitra
Andriamanitra: why is code golf only 200 but bot programming 5000
Andriamanitra: i will never get points ;_;
Astrobytes: Yes you will
Astrobytes: If you improve your bot programming and optim :P
davilla: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/modular_calculus
Andriamanitra: i barely have attention span to read through the description much less to actually solve
Astrobytes: that's so strange davilla: I would just call it... um, number theory
Astrobytes: Andriamanitra: then you have some work to do on yourself before you try to solve complex problems :P
Andriamanitra: my haskell code golf is worth 0/200 points :(
struct: guess we have something similar
orangesnowfox: They uhh... Only update on Reset
Astrobytes: ^
Astrobytes: Well, when they update the servers
Astrobytes: *database
orangesnowfox: aka, midnight UTC iirc
Andriamanitra: oh, maybe there's a chance
Astrobytes: Did you make some progress in something today Andriamanitra?
Andriamanitra: i don't think so except for the haskell code golf :D
Astrobytes: Well, as fox said it won't be updated until 0000 UTC or later (I don't even know what time it happens these days)
davilla: "applied" is what theoreticians call anything with purpose, when there's no other interest in the concept than the end goal
Astrobytes: lmao, you ain't wrong
davilla: quick survey:
davilla: worst language for code golf?
Roxxx: bash
Astrobytes: applied = worker, otherwise = academia
Astrobytes: Java
Roxxx: lolz
davilla: worst as is largest size for optimal solution
Astrobytes: Or C++
Astrobytes: Java or C++
Astrobytes: Probably Java
davilla: not C# ? huh, OK
Roxxx: he's just poking at me
Astrobytes: C# can be condensed a little more than Java iirc
Astrobytes: Not at all Roxxx!
Astrobytes: Serious
Roxxx: no worries, i'm just playing
davilla: who me? no I agree Bash is godawful to read, but the code is super small
Astrobytes: I mean you can condense the java a lot
Astrobytes: But iirc, you can shorten the C# a lot more
davilla: I guess C# does have a lot of useful features like nullable types and implicit tuples (forget what they call those)
Tadatadatadam: i love java and c++
Astrobytes: Tadatadatadam: Then you should C# too, if not, get some spectacles
Roxxx: @Astrobytes but isn't the whole beauty of java that it's easy to read
Roxxx: it's probably one of the most verbose languages but it can be so readable
struct: java has no unsigned long long?
struct: What is this
Tadatadatadam: nto this time C# ty, sorry. So far I love these 2 languages
Astrobytes: Roxxx: may I refer you to
https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition
davilla: oh there it is: ValueTuple
davilla: as of C# 7.0
Roxxx: @struct there is BigInteger
Astrobytes: Tadatadatadam: I think you'll like C#, give it a try
Roxxx: not the same
Roxxx: @Astrobytes what do you mean
Astrobytes: https://projects.haykranen.nl/java/
davilla: my favorite feature in C# are extension methods
davilla: but there are limitations to that since not everything derives from object
Astrobytes: My favourite feature of C# is not using it
Roxxx: @Astrobytes, hey those are just naming conventions xD
Astrobytes: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Astrobytes: Roxxx: :D
struct: i mostly use c++/javascript
davilla: I hear you, Micro$oft produces almost nothing but garbage
Astrobytes: pleasure/pain thing struct
davilla: they redefine basic math concepts like mod and integer division
Andriamanitra: my code makes perfect sense and passes all the tests but only gets 6% from validators :thinking:
Andriamanitra: is the (C) compiler environment different for the validators
davilla: for 400 years -1 mod 3 is 2, but why value tradition and sense?
Astrobytes: I try not to judge. I can use C# if I need to. I prefer C++.
Astrobytes: and lol
orangesnowfox: Half the people here hate me (not *really*) because I use Rust ^^;
davilla: why do the other half hate you?
Astrobytes: Rust is definitely cool
davilla: just kidding :-P
Astrobytes: It's peculiar, but cool
Roxxx: nothing wrong with rust it's just a bit 'oxidized'
Astrobytes: Ferris the Crab may take issue with that
orangesnowfox: They might, they might not
davilla: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(programming_language)
davilla: I don't see any Criticisms
Astrobytes: I always just love the term 'Rustacean' and Ferris from ferrous. It tickled my biochemical feathers
davilla: so Rust uses reference counting... can't that still result in memory leaks, with circular references?
orangesnowfox: "Weird syntax" "I hate borrowck" are the common complaints
orangesnowfox: davilla: Rust *doesn't* use Reference Counting
struct: microsoft has been improving
struct: C# is good
orangesnowfox: It has Rcs, but they aren't like, required.
struct: wsl2 is great
Astrobytes: Syntax is a little different sure, but the borrow checker is cool
davilla: OK so you can manage it yourself, or you can let the RC handle it, but there's no full-feature Gc
orangesnowfox: And, also, davilla: Yes, Rc leaks *can* happen, but memory leaks aren't unsafe (neither are deadlocks)
orangesnowfox: Rust helps you with that first one
orangesnowfox: No use after free or anything
davilla: I mean, I guess that's a good compromise
Astrobytes: It literally tells you when you're f**king up, or warns you that you are on the path to doing so
davilla: heck, I've had memory leaks in python
orangesnowfox: Keeps you from having data races, so I consider that *very* nice in any threaded application
Astrobytes: Anyway, struct has still not completed his mission therefore I shall retire to watch something inane before bed
struct: sorry astro
Astrobytes: :)
struct: I will, im just a bit tired
Andriamanitra: i guess "main(a,b,c,d)" to get around having to "int a,b,c,d;" was too much for the validators even though it worked in ide
struct: Lots of coding on last days
Astrobytes: I'm just joking struct man, don't worry :)
samueI: hi
Astrobytes: Honestly, no rush man
Astrobytes: and consult darkhorse64 if you have any issues with it struct, he's a helpful guy
struct: I will
Astrobytes: cool beans, see ya tomorrow man
Astrobytes: gn all
struct: cya, gn
davilla: so this seems like an awful lot of minutia, when borrowck doesn't understand something like slices of an array
davilla: tell me Rust is worth it because it's at least as fast as C
orangesnowfox: "Borrowck doesn't understand slices of an array" ?
orangesnowfox: Well, it's on par with C
davilla: sorry I may not have gotten the lingo right yet
orangesnowfox: Well, define what you mean
davilla: https://doc.rust-lang.org/nomicon/borrow-splitting.html
orangesnowfox: Ah, right...
davilla: I mean it's usually pretty useful, I'm sure, but sometimes you have to circumvent
davilla: whereas with true GC you never have to worry about that stuff... obvious disadvantage being the speed
orangesnowfox: Well, there's `split_at_mut`, which splits it in arbitrary slices, and first / end splits, which honestly cover 99% of usecases
orangesnowfox: True, with GC you don't have to deal with it
orangesnowfox: Rust is competing with C as a "Systems Programming Language" tho
davilla: OK, so Rust is a way to get the speed of C without as many headaches
orangesnowfox: "kinda" but let's go with that, it's honestly a nice language over all
orangesnowfox: Like, I use it in my day to day job (currently backend web dev, *sighs*)
struct: just weird syntax :(
davilla: well do you know any higher level languages? like python, which is built on C?
orangesnowfox: I know quite a few in fact :p
Uljahn: cython :)
davilla: hmm syntax was claimed to be C-like, but I don't know about these keywords like impl
davilla: I guess that's a template?
davilla: and => isn't LINQ it's some sort of if/then
orangesnowfox: LINQ isn't C lol
davilla: yeah just trying to make sense of it
orangesnowfox: https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/rust/ quick overview of syntax
davilla: cool thanks
davilla: what is the general name for what => does in LINQ? would that be a lambda function, basically?
orangesnowfox: `(x) => stuff` is lambda in C# yeah
davilla: and in Rust?
davilla: lots and lots of focus on thread safety, everything I've seen goes into it
davilla: I can only hope to see that in python 4
davilla: oh => is used in match statement, which I guess is like a switch
orangesnowfox: A lambda in Rust is `|<args>*| [-> <Type>] <expr>` ie, `|| foo()` (which is a pretty useless lambda, but still) or `|a| a.bar.baz()`, or `|| -> i32 { eprintln!("what is the meaning of life"); 42 }`
orangesnowfox: Yeah, `=>` is used in pattern matching, it's somewhat more powerful than a switch (as far as I remember, maybe C# has gained true pattern matching)
orangesnowfox: Rust also doesn't have null, which is really nice
davilla: wow, yeah I see some pretty high level stuff with the pattern matching
davilla: .. like a *
orangesnowfox: Yeah... There's a lot of stuff, try not to absorb too much at once
davilla: yeah I think not, but I'll definitely look into it again
davilla: why the ! is that a function call?
orangesnowfox: It's a macro
davilla: OK there's a lot to learn here
davilla: interesting for sure
Roxxx: https://www.codingame.com/replay/543075899
Roxxx: got em to shoot
Roxxx: but they have no idea what they are shooting at rofl
Roxxx: my units killed half of neutrals and they keep shooting at obstacles hmm
Roxxx: there's something seriously wrong with the logic, since i tried to do the opposite
Tadatadatadam: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Roxxx: exactly
Tadatadatadam: "In Rust it is unsafe to dereference a raw pointer or call a non-rust function. OpenGL is non-rust, so we will have lots of unsafe fun."
davilla: Rust is like juggling knives in full body armor
davilla: and external libraries are like metal detectors
Tadatadatadam: i like this util
Tadatadatadam: https://github.com/sharkdp/fd
davilla: where is the about?
davilla: nevermind readme.md
Tadatadatadam: I used it as a search, they demanded to install it when you put Emacs
Tadatadatadam: very fast search
Tadatadatadam: in the notes it is written that it is written in Rust, I just remember that evening how long it took to grow and this utility
Tadatadatadam: сщьзшдфешщт
Tadatadatadam: compilation
LOCPPN: hello
Smelty: hello there roxxx
TheDrowningFish: sup gangstas
Roxxx: hello smelty :)
Who_Mahmud: :punch:
datvp1234: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/171323609ab751b3827d3583579bf255266fe97
MINGTRAU: fuck you
datvp1234: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1713244157d7cb6902da7628f20aa4477ff0e83
APOK: fuck !!!!
ThinhCute: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/171325326d8d5b670d2fe4467a65cf45356a175
ThinhCute: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/171325326d8d5b670d2fe4467a65cf45356a175
ThinhCute: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/17132571fff5ba0b6458841b9bcf021d179af1d
ThinhCute: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/17132571fff5ba0b6458841b9bcf021d179af1d
ThinhCute: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/17132571fff5ba0b6458841b9bcf021d179af1d
ThinhCute: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1713269ed6bfd1b4e46aab5b73dc7759b783a8c
ThinhCute: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/171327825c4bb7cb3d0b73f71638bf34bd1e702
ThinhCute: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/171327825c4bb7cb3d0b73f71638bf34bd1e702
icecream17: you're spamming
ThinhCute: sr
ThinhCute: i'm sorry
icecream17: thks - maybe spam 1 time next time
icecream17: (i was rewriting my comment a couple times so it took a long time to reply)
ThinhCute: ok
MINGTRAU: fuck you iceream
MINGTRAU: fuck you
MINGTRAU: fuck you
MINGTRAU: fuck you
MINGTRAU: fuck you
APOK: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/17132880587a80f008b3816224a2bc7dbbf5d57
molethecoleio: can someone help me on coders strike back?
icecream17: sure
molethecoleio: how do i friend you
icecream17: idk lets see...
CamBones: is anyone available to help me out with Coders Strike Back, C++
kresteodymium: hi
xxk1ng0fh3artzxx: Still need help, CamBones?
kresteodymium: hi xxk1ng0fh3artzxx
xxk1ng0fh3artzxx: Hey kresteodymium
molethecoleio: sup guys
kresteodymium: sup guys
kresteodymium: happy coding lol
Notter: CoC anyone?
molethecoleio: i need help every game i go to i se alot of scarry code a nd i dont understand eny of it
kresteodymium: coding is a learning process
kresteodymium: theres a learning process
kresteodymium: im no expert myself
Notter: @molethecoleio What language are you using?
molethecoleio: python
Pick8chu: Any tips on Coders strike back bronze league?
molethecoleio: lol im stuck in wood 2
Pick8chu: wood 2? don't they tell you what to add on the description?
XSNRG: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/1b83baa8-3a25-492a-b053-822bc66f61ea
XSNRG: getting server error, pasted error
BigFatDecker: what is wrong with this code. obj, end = self.scan_once(s, idx) , keep getting error saying JSONDecodeError: Expecting ',' delimiter
molethecoleio: i dont know eny more ima go to bed
molethecoleio: gn
datvp1234: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/171334512dd5d92d907ceab8b13c60069ebb8e8
datvp1234: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/171336737ec595b5326efefad1b43bdb2731489
Alex-1: hii
Alex-1: what update about Covid-19
Alex-1: it to fast
easdasd: hi guys
easdasd: fortnite is free now?
Alex-1: ohh 'that nice
Alex-1: easdasd
Smelty: o.o
MINGTRAU: fuck you
MINGTRAU: ddmmmm
Alex-1: don't abuse MINGTRAU
MinhHCL: ????
MINGTRAU: nono
Alex-1: that's not fine
Alex-1: MINGTRAU
Smelty: i'm slowly making my way up clash of code leaderboard o.o
Alex-1: ohh Smelty that's good
MINGTRAU: fuck you alex
Alex-1: just stop it
Alex-1: otherwise i will report you
Alex-1: MINGTRAU
MinhHCL: địt mẹ mày
Smelty: thanks alex
Smelty: and MINGTRAU
Smelty: >:)
Smelty: If I see you doing that again, I'm definitely reporting
Alex-1: are you saying to me Smelty
Smelty: nah just warning mingtrau
Alex-1: okk
Smelty: that's the second time
Alex-1: yeah
BigFatDecker: what is wrong with this code. obj, end = self.scan_once(s, idx) , keep getting error saying JSONDecodeError: Expecting ',' delimiter
Smelty: um, lets see
Smelty: what language
Smelty: i'm not that good at most languages, but I'll try to help
BigFatDecker: its python im actually trying to set up gpt 2
BigFatDecker: but in the decoder it says expectin delimiter
BigFatDecker: and i cant find where it wants me to put it
BigFatDecker: https://pastebin.com/LNuszREA
BigFatDecker: on line 353
Smelty: okay
Smelty: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/068ee0ba-d0e2-481d-b51f-181862c9f439
Smelty: from stackoverflow
Smelty: hope it helps
MINGTRAU: fuck you alx
MINGTRAU: dmm
Littleyounes: why you invite me
Littleyounes: mingtrau
Littleyounes: x)
Littleyounes: m busy
MINGTRAU: because i like
Littleyounes: k
BigFatDecker: so would that show an error in the decoder? because it doesnt show an error in the json and that is the default file that came with gpt 2
MINGTRAU: oh
MINGTRAU: i don't understand
BigFatDecker: i would post the json but its too big
MINGTRAU: oh
BigFatDecker: this is impossible
Alex-1: Smelty it help BigFatDecker stackoverflow is nice
sh2008.lee: hi
