Smelty: well...I finished back to the 80's escape room (2 people) in 1h46m.....not bad I think
ErrorRazor: How have I never heard of escape.codingame.com before
ErrorRazor: If anyone wants to test it out tonight (in 8-12 hours) hmu
derjack: and apparently not many people heard of something else than clashes in CG
JarlWolf: Hello there, I am new. How is everyone doing
Babyface-Developer: I am fine ( nearly dead LOL)
JarlWolf: hahaha why is that?
Babyface-Developer: COC everyday LOL
JarlWolf: Lol is it a challenge? or the classic Clash of Clans game
JarlWolf: btw I am new here so I am sure I have got heaps of things to catch up with.
Uljahn: just explore the site, there is a lot of fun things to do
Babyface-Developer: welcome, I find codingame is really fun
JarlWolf: Thanks a lot. Yea I just finished the Thor's challenge I enjoyed it
Babyface-Developer: Lol is it a challenge => for sure :))
Babyface-Developer: clash of code full of experts :)))
JarlWolf: haha I do not doubt it. oh wow full of experts sounds amazing.
JarlWolf: Are you ppl seniors level? I am just getting into intermediate
Uljahn: most c++ experts do not play clashes though
JarlWolf: oh really? is there any particular reason?
Uljahn: yea, there is a shortest mode where c++ gets wrecked by js, ruby and python
jrke: cause it takes bit more time than other languages to even code simple things and also its not short which causes losing for them
JarlWolf: oh I see. Yea it makes a lot of sense.
Uljahn: but for bot AI multiplayers c++ is the best choice because of performance reasons
derjack: and clashes may not be fun for them
derjack: they would use time to make multiplayer bot than do clashes
Uljahn: indeed
JarlWolf: very true. Well I will try to have a look. Perhaps I get to have some fun there too.
JarlWolf: You ppl come online everyday?
Uljahn: yep
Uljahn: JarlWolf: take a look at https://www.codingame.com/playgrounds/55547/how-to-get-started-on-codingame
Babyface-Developer: :smile:
PatrickMcGinnisII: :tophat:
JarlWolf: Fantastic! thanks a lot mate. I will have a look and I will catch you guys tomorrow then
Uljahn: :thumbsup:
nyn_[Nguyen]: :hugging:
Louis.: salut
PatrickMcGinnisII: took me like 3 days to do the christmas tree puzzle
PatrickMcGinnisII: and my solution isn't the simplest, but neither is the contributors
PatrickMcGinnisII: but mine is prettier
PatrickMcGinnisII: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/87fccd68-f3db-4156-9dd2-a00ef27f4d7b
struct: :fearful:
PatrickMcGinnisII: yea i don't feel bad for giving it away
PatrickMcGinnisII: if you can interpret that in php, have at it
PatrickMcGinnisII: nighty night
struct: night
KiwiTae: o/
Louis.: nice
Louis.: tree
codeing: hello how to send message with notification in cg ?
derjack: you cant send notifications oO
codeing: nope
codeing: can you sned me a specific message ?
JSboss: DMs are possible by clicking the username in the chat or the private message button on profile. also typing full username in a shared channel or DM the msg will appear red to the user
codeing: sometimes i get message in red color here !
codeing: how to do ?
derjack: impossible codeing
codeing: yes
codeing: what impossible ?
derjack: codeing why would you get red messages :v
codeing: the last one you send have red color .
codeing: wait
derjack: :no_mouth:
VizGhar: if you type someones name exactly right he will receive it in red color
VizGhar: derjack codeing
Aadhi_05: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/16822050a0027d1ac0c1aa77968e126526671e1
magaiti: Automaton2000, do you receive messages in red color?
Automaton2000: eulerschezahl what do you get the full rules
derjack: AutomatonNN eh?
VizGhar: he's bot and proud member of community right Automaton2000 ?
Automaton2000: can you please tell me if i did it on purpose
damsliver: hey
damsliver: i need to learn more about this can someone help in
damsliver: paying 500$ per month
VizGhar: o.O
damsliver: hi
sid12123: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/6434b2f00f9fc20732c96b7f26458e3ed2e9
MSmits: don't post clash links here
sid12123: how to delete
MSmits: dont worry
MSmits: it's just for the future
sid12123: ohk thanks
MSmits: what you can do is just ask one time if anyone wants to clash with you, thats ok
MSmits: then you can send them the link
derjack: hi MSmits
MSmits: hi pony!
derjack: have you seen my n-tuple tic tac toe?
MSmits: just had my last FP test
MSmits: no, whats up with that?
MSmits: you rank 1 now?
derjack: https://github.com/jdermont/tictactoe-ntuple
derjack: gonna make some playground about it
MSmits: is this your live bot?
MSmits: oh this is normal TTT?
derjack: no lol, this is 3x3 tic tac toe
MSmits: ahh
MSmits: it's great of you to share
MSmits: thanks
MSmits: this tells me how to train?
struct: hi MSmits
MSmits: you do realize that is exactly what I most lack in. for example othello
MSmits: I know how to already do the ntuples
MSmits: so this is awesome
MSmits: hi struct
derjack: well this train on all positions of TTT
MSmits: well that doesn't matter if it is general enough does it?
derjack: and then 1-ply minimax bot becomes perfect
derjack: well as long as you have labeled positions to teain on, sure
derjack: train
MSmits: cool, so now you've given me two things that will keep me busy for months
MSmits: the oware nn thing
MSmits: and the ntuple thintg
MSmits: dont even know which to do first
derjack: i could also make you to seat by round table on the corner
MSmits: that must be a Polish expression or a pony expression
derjack: oh
MSmits: i am guessing there is an episode, Ponies of the Round Table
MSmits: based on the Arthur mythos
derjack: it was supposed to be a joke like 'Chuck Norris can sit at the corner of a round table'
MSmits: ahhh ok
MSmits: I noticed in most games my meta mcts approach just doesn't work unless coupled with targeted booking
MSmits: exception being yavalath and C4
MSmits: it improves the gameplay a little bit
MSmits: but not a lot
derjack: :bomb:
MSmits: C4 seems to be solving to a draw btw
MSmits: but not 100% sure
MSmits: at move 1 i mean
MSmits: 2-3-4 seem to be win for p1, 0 is win for p2
MSmits: I think I mostly found the best lines of play, but to actually solve it needs to finish all the bad moves too and that takes a long time
derjack: draws are the longest as they require to fill the game completely
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: that's why
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/41464006-4230-4ffd-b41f-9a2a2d693141
MSmits: I stopped the other moves because they were clearly converging
MSmits: i may finish them later
MSmits: 800 MB on disk :)
MSmits: I can go up to 2 billion nodes before i need a new database system
MSmits: hope I make it :)
Manah3.deb: Hi guys
derjack: 2 billions? due to 32bit addresing?
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: I use a very simple system that has this limitation
MSmits: but i am at 8 million, so there's a ways to go
Manah3.deb: I have a problem on the Coders Strike Back, I setting the thurst thanks to the next_checkpoint_dist
MSmits: it speeds up a lot though because most nodes are near end of game, so i sometimes do 10 games in a second
MSmits: i should say near solve of game (around turn 30)
MSmits: Manah3.deb what language?
Manah3.deb: however the thrust always is to 100 on the output
Manah3.deb: pyhton
Manah3.deb: if ((next_checkpoint_dist <= 400) & (next_checkpoint_dist > 200)): http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d648d3fb-75a4-4841-a8bd-6d0a80e92d06
dbdr: MSmits why 2 billion, you use 31 bits?
MSmits: I use persistent dictionary, a C# library
MSmits: so i dont need any database stuff
MSmits: it's as easy as using a normal dictionary
MSmits: except it stores on HD
dbdr: ah, C# is always signed like Java?
MSmits: no idea, it just says so on the description. I didn't think beyond that. But if I try to have a c++ array that uses more than this amount of memory, it also causes issues
MSmits: cant use more than 2 GB
MSmits: so i've seen similar things where you would expect to have 4B, but could only have 2B
struct: Manah3.deb next check point distance will never be lower than 600
struct: since it is the radius of the checkpoint
MSmits: https://github.com/microsoft/ManagedEsent/blob/master/Documentation/PersistentDictionaryDocumentation.md
MSmits: if you're interested dbdr, if you're ever using C# and lookign for a really simple persistent storage, it's great
MSmits: I have 13 GB of my HD stuck in various instances of this, for my meta mcts's
dbdr: do you have bcckups? ;)
MSmits: i make them sometimes, not enough probably
MSmits: just copy the stuff to a different HD
MSmits: oh and google drive
dbdr: reminds me of the guys who solved othello and the like, over a decade or so :)
MSmits: not othello i think
MSmits: but i know what you mean
MSmits: the C4 guy does that
MSmits: othello isn't solved but it might as well be
derjack: oh my prince philip is dead
Coder_prabhat: :slight_smile:
MSmits: for a second i thought you were saying this in pony character
MSmits: "your prince phillip"
derjack: forgot , after oh my
dbdr: probably I was thinking of checkers
derjack: checkers is solved, othello not
MSmits: checkers was solved by scientists
derjack: though roughly the same complexity
MSmits: mmh i think othello is a bit more complex because it has more branching and there are no endgame tables
MSmits: checkers has 10 piece tables
Djolesd02: ide gas
derjack: on the other hoof othello has 8 symmetries
MSmits: yeah, but that's pretty much negligible when it comes to solving. I know a factor of 8 seems a lot, but that's basically the same as 1 extra level of depth in a game with a branching of 8
MSmits: and most have more branching than that
MSmits: basically, you have a total of 8x less nodes needed
MSmits: btw, i had this discussion with re curse not so long ago :)
MSmits: i should say, it matters a lot when just looking at a single game, solving it 8x faster or so. But when comparing games you're mostly looking at orders of magnitude, and 8 is less than 1 order of magnitude
Louis.: salut
TechnocraticLenny: does anyone know what the easiest one is?
Louis.: puzzles
TechnocraticLenny: no i mean what is the easiest one in puzzles
struct: the descent
TechnocraticLenny: ...
TechnocraticLenny: i just did that one and had a hard time
TechnocraticLenny: ...
TechnocraticLenny: i must really suck
struct: It takes a while to get the bases on programming
VizGhar: describe your trouble. maybe there are some immediate steps
Martialcart: one tip for decent could be that you report index, not mountain height
Martialcart: idk, that's was the thing i found counter intuitive
MSmits: I had problems with the descent too, when I first got to cg
MSmits: I found it confusing that you had a "game loop" and a maximum height loop
MSmits: I didn't know how the game loop worked
Uljahn: you didn't notice hints tab either
MSmits: indeed
jacek: who reads statements and hints nowadays
yeayeadavid: welp
Baguettespagett: how do you code
jacek: with keyboard
KiwiTae: fingers can help too
struct: I use my phone to code
Baguettespagett: code=spegetti
Baguettespagett: to me
ZarthaxX: hey guys
ZetaQ: :wave:
KiwiTae: ZarthaxX o/
ZarthaxX: howdy
eulerscheZahl: KiwiBleu \o
KiwiTae: eulerscheZahl o/
ZetaQ: \o/
struct: hi
jacek: Automaton2000 oo
Automaton2000: as long as you don't know if they are in a different direction
ZetaQ: Automaton2000 o/
Automaton2000: i want to get to gold?
ZetaQ: :grimacing:
Underchaos: anime?
jacek: mlp!
darkhorse64: jacek: recovering on the chat, what about nn oware ? Have you any link for me ?
dbdr: Astrobytes: https://www.codingame.com/replay/539133168
No passaran! ;)
Marchete: how many languages do you speak dbdr_?
dbdr: I don't speak spanish
Marchete: I'm aware of that :D
Marchete: Hungarian, English, French?
dbdr: french, english, hungarian, basic german
Marchete: nice
ZarthaxX: damnn
ZarthaxX: international as f
Marchete: and I barely speak Spanish
Marchete: with luck
ZarthaxX: same
Astrobytes: dbdr: :D
KiwiTae: hola
ZarthaxX: just know offensive words here
Marchete: basic german, fortran french
ZarthaxX: chau KiwiTae
ZarthaxX: fortran ? what :P
dbdr: german was the first language I learned. but did not need it for too long so forgot a lot
dbdr: and english was much easier to learn for me
ZarthaxX: german has really long words
Marchete: eulerscheZah_l for example
Marchete: no Spanish guy can spell it correctly
MrSanchezzz: naturwissenschaften as example?
Marchete: Schadenfreude
MrSanchezzz: Eichhornchen
VizGhar: now try something that sounds sweet in german
darkhorse64: liebchen
MrSanchezzz: lecker
Astrobytes: schmetterling
MoKi: yoooooooo
VizGhar: Automaton2000 ?
Automaton2000: my code works fine on my pc
-[._.]-: for coders strike back, how is score calculated?
eulerscheZahl: with TrueSkill
eulerscheZahl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueSkill
dbdr: self.vx += THRUST as F * dx * norm;
just realized my code is rated R :D
jacek: :?
eulerscheZahl: i'm disappointed that our full-time troll doesn't get it
jacek: :(
jacek: fix onitama, is too easy
ZetaQ: how points for clash is determined, time we take to solve ? or the rank
struct: rank
ZetaQ: ok
-[._.]-: hmm. https://www.codingame.com/replay/539149956
jacek: secret meeting
cegprakash: A wild ceg appears
Scarfield: hi ceg
cegprakash: coz spring challenge is near
cegprakash: RIP my country ranking kids taking over me
cegprakash: jrke and WINWINWIN surprising performance
ZarthaxX: kids?
cegprakash: Jrke is in preschool I think
Scarfield: o/
cegprakash: :P
cegprakash: WINWINWIN is also a college kid I think
ZarthaxX: ah yes haha
cegprakash: I don't care about anid much coz 4 ppl used that account to submit and boost rank
ZarthaxX: india is competitive
-[._.]-: hmm yes
cegprakash: Is it possible to see country rankings other than mine?
cegprakash: it redirects to my country ranking when I try other country codes in url
Scarfield: in general leaderboard sort by country i guess(?)
cegprakash: got it
jacek: :+1:
cegprakash: Too much France in top 100
cegprakash: 6 in top 10 :P
cegprakash: what's the secret of France
jacek: they host CG
cegprakash: haha
cegprakash: but still
cegprakash: I don't see any host favour here
dbdr: quantity
cegprakash: if quantity means something see India
cegprakash: only 1 in top 100
cegprakash: and 4 in top 200
cegprakash: out off 4053 ppl
jacek: what leaderboard
cegprakash: bot programming
cegprakash: https://www.codingame.com/leaderboards/bot_programming/global?column=country&value=FR
dbdr: 33,459 results found for «Country - France»
dbdr: as I said: quantity
cegprakash: omg
jacek: and 4053 for india
BlaiseEbuth: Active members of the 5% of course
Scarfield: again with the 5%, what am i missing here?
cegprakash: 0.05% of French population are in codingame that's crazy!
Scarfield: with 33k "frog eaters" euler should be scared of this place
ZarthaxX: :rofl:
BlaiseEbuth: Here ? You're probably missing your life scarfou
BlaiseEbuth: Euler is a toad
BlaiseEbuth: Bad taste
cegprakash: 1 in every 2000 person in france is in Codingame
cegprakash: that's so amazing
dbdr: toads just need slightly longer cooking
BlaiseEbuth: We are legion
cegprakash: I'm probably the only one in my city
Scarfield: xD
cegprakash: with several lakhs
cegprakash: of population
cegprakash: BlaiseEbuth wow
linjoehan: I need a name for my tetris AI 6 letters max
cegprakash: France should probably have great schools for programming
BlaiseEbuth: 'tetris'
orangesnowfox: joeTAI
cegprakash: encouraging stuffs like codingame and giving marks for it
eulerscheZahl: Blockout
BlaiseEbuth: And very bad ones
jacek: toads are hallucynogenic
BlaiseEbuth: some frigs too
linjoehan: no eulerscheZahl thats 8
BlaiseEbuth: *frogs
jacek: sirtet
BlaiseEbuth: 'tetris'
linjoehan: jacek is winning at the mment
BlaiseEbuth: Why ? tetris is fine
jacek: but copyrigthed (?)
Smelty: perhaps
linjoehan: not the name of the game the name of the bot when hes filling in the high score leader board
BlaiseEbuth: icare
eulerscheZahl: call your AI Jonas
eulerscheZahl: in memory of Jonas Neubauer
linjoehan: mmm...
Scarfield: "GreenT"
Scarfield: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNZsCJkrt8U
eulerscheZahl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdfRQjb5o9k&ab_channel=ClassicTetris
linjoehan: ok eulerscheZahl wins
Scarfield: Jonas Neubauer passed away, didnt know that :/
linjoehan: I didn't know that either
eulerscheZahl: 2021 started horribly :(
Smelty: oh :(
ZetaQ: i think there is a bug , when i click others profile and then click my profile it shows nothing :o
Smelty: for me when i do that it won't let me click on my profile
Smelty: :0
eulerscheZahl: how do you reach the profiles? tooltip from chat?
ZetaQ: yeah
eulerscheZahl: works fine for me
Smelty: the profile button won't work when i am viewing someone else's profile
eulerscheZahl: aah, you are right
jacek: time to fix it at friday evening
eulerscheZahl: i'll report it on discord
jacek: oO
Smelty: Thanks! :D
BlaiseEbuth: Something like that already been reported https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/little-bug-in-profile-link-url/189931
jacek: so euler is just slowpoke
Smelty: i see
eulerscheZahl: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
eulerscheZahl: i want 1 single bug tracker
BlaiseEbuth: ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
jacek: create a ticket then
eulerscheZahl: no forum+chat+discord+CG internal tracker
BlaiseEbuth: +1
-[._.]-: +1
Smelty: +1
jacek: c-c-c...
Scarfield: (╯°□°）╯┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
Smelty: ┬─┬ ︵ /(.□. \）
jacek: australia?
BlaiseEbuth: pןǝıɟ ︵ \(°□°)/ ︵ ɹɐɔS
Scarfield: :o
BlaiseEbuth: pןǝıɟ Scarノ( º _ ºノ)
Smelty: (/ .□.)\ ︵╰(゜Д゜)╯︵ /(.□. \)
BlaiseEbuth: ╰(⇀︿⇀)つ-]═───╰(゜Д゜)╯
jacek: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/42ad459e-aa88-44d2-99cf-6e6341a6c578
jacek: :s
jacek: i thought there was going to be copy paste into chat protection
shakibm83: hi
IJustKilledYouV2: hey, so im back with some question to those who code in c++
IJustKilledYouV2: do you guys think its really worth to learn in 2021?
IJustKilledYouV2: i want honest opinion tho, don't say things just bcs its your fav language
BlaiseEbuth: No. The end of the world is close, so programming is a waste of time. Go dig a bunker.
jacek: i only use c++ for competition here. i dont use c++ professionally
jacek: for low level stuff probably rust will take over :unamused:
IJustKilledYouV2: oh im sorry BlaiseEbuth, i will just quit, i wanted to go to programming school but now i see the truth, thanks
BlaiseEbuth: :thumbsup:
jacek: nyoro~n
SourceOfBugs: Java is still one of the most used languages and it's around since '96 with lots of (imo) better alternatives that do the same thing. I don't think C++ is going anywhere soon – although for new projects Rust is probably going to take over more and more
so it really depends no where you want to work, I guess
SebastianVelandiaGiraldo: Java si crap
SlimeMaster44: Hey for the chuck norris code do i have to hard code the binary value of every ASCII character into the code. I assume I dont have to but how do I do this
ZarthaxX: SlimeMaster44 you can get the binary value programatically
SlimeMaster44: so i have to code a thing to take the character and make it into its binary value?
ZarthaxX: yup
ZarthaxX: binary string with 7 bits
ZarthaxX: that's a way
struct: some languages have in built methods that do this
struct: they dont pad to 7
SlimeMaster44: does java?
struct: but they convert to binary
struct: yes
jrke: time to reveal lost child episode -2
jacek: did i miss episode 1?
jrke: the bfs one
jacek: oh i completed it
jrke: here is episode 2 - https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/6489fc78a4262830cd958184a6b089009aaa
jacek: this is unlike episode 1
jrke: truely 100% different from ep-1
jacek: The game has crashed. Please contact the author and enclose the following error: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/85082630-4931-4f37-af5e-489e4ff977ca
jacek: in Lost! case
jacek: and later too
jacek: probably struct or eulerscheZahl will tell more about it
struct: replay has a max size, he exceededd it
struct: :p
jacek: *gasp*
struct: Colors are a bit too bright
struct: imo
jrke: damp replay size execeeded for first time
jrke: jacek for which test this happened?
snoyes: I'd appreciate your votes, and feedback if you vote negative: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/6412391b5ba85cb866c82420cbf58f9b6353
jacek: Lost! and Trauma at least
linjoehan: Man the highscore screen in tetris is just a giant bug
vagos: wargle mcdarnled my slimeys!!
vagos: wats goodie!!
struct: At first glance it looks nice snoyes
jacek: what tetris
WannaBeHum1n: does the website have a dark mode xD ?
jacek: well in ide there is dark theme but thats by default i think
UnnamedCodinGamer: I just opened Dice Duel and my browser is lagging
UnnamedCodinGamer: Does anyone else experience this
UnnamedCodinGamer: ?
ota-alt: hi
Wontonimo: Just placed 45th in slcc with a GA. Not too bad...
Wontonimo: not great
ota-alt: this is almost like discord right?
UnnamedCodinGamer: What is slcc?
jacek: UnnamedCodinGamer it works normally for me
jacek: ota-alt almost. its not tied to discord
Wontonimo: UnnamedCodinGamer https://www.codingame.com/ide/challenge/sofia-labs-coding-challenge
struct: I dont have anything to submit yet :/
UnnamedCodinGamer: Wontonimo thanks
Wontonimo: There are no points or global rank awarded for it
Wontonimo: just 4 fun
UnnamedCodinGamer: jacek it is so laggy that I can not scroll down to read
UnnamedCodinGamer: strange
struct: UnnamedCodinGamer probably because replays are huge
struct: Its probably 1MB+
UnnamedCodinGamer: I am not replaying anything ...
ota-alt: dose anyone undetsand the thor thingy
Wontonimo: yes
jacek: how may we help you
VizGhar: o.O
ota-alt: do u know what the rules mean because I don't understand them :/ Im an begginer
VizGhar: jacek changed personality?
jacek: hm?
Wontonimo: ota-alt i can see from your profile that it looks like your first puzzle
jacek: you have hints in the left
ota-alt: but isnt hints just cheating
Wontonimo: no
Wontonimo: it's called research
ota-alt:
Wontonimo: kidding aside, if you are stuck and don't have any other recourse then hints are the way to go
Wontonimo: Here is another puzzle that you may find easier to start with https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/the-descent
ota-alt: hmm ok
Wontonimo: and this is one is visually nice and not too hard for starting out (especially if you know a little physics) https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/mars-lander-episode-1
ota-alt: whats physics
Wontonimo: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
ota-alt: ?
WannaBeHum1n: hey
VizGhar: :D
ZarthaxX: ota-alt he got frustrated coz you dont know physics
ZarthaxX: :(
WannaBeHum1n: how can i 1cs1 my friend in coders strike again
ota-alt: how do u make the tetx red
jacek: WannaBeHum1n in the ide?
ZarthaxX: if you get tagged by your name you see it red ota-alt
Wontonimo: WannaBeHum1n - at the bottom in the IDE click 'delete' on the boss/ai then you'll get an option to add your friend
UnnamedCodinGamer: Was this mars lander episode 1 puzzle where you needed to watch your ears?
WannaBeHum1n: yes in the ide
Wontonimo: ota-alt btw, i wasn't frustrated about the physics thing ... just being funny. if you don't know physics you are still welcome here.
Wontonimo: UnnamedCodinGamer ears?
WannaBeHum1n: thnx
WannaBeHum1n: idk how to tag u
WannaBeHum1n: but u know who ua re
jacek: :thinking:
Wontonimo: just type the other persons name. use tab to autocomplete
Wontonimo: i tag you by typing Wann[tab]
Wontonimo: and it becomes "i tag you by typing WannaBeHum1n"
UnnamedCodinGamer: Wontonimo, there was a huge audible bang in one of those, possibly in all of them
UnnamedCodinGamer: when your ship crashes
Wontonimo: oh ... right. yeah, turn off sound. I don't know why it doesn't do that for me but I've heard that is a problem UnnamedCodinGamer
jacek: maybe youre deaf
Wontonimo: yeah, there is that
Wontonimo: well, wouldn't you know it, actually coding in the win condition to your bot will improve it's ranking. fancy that. Just moved up 10 ranks in slcc
linjoehan: man finally got the high score thing to work now I can try working on training the AI
Wontonimo: i haven't been following, what are you working on linjoehan ?
struct: that small change made you increase 10 ranks?
Wontonimo: yeah struct. previously I only had a gradient proxy of score, but not the actual win condition
linjoehan: I'm making an agent to play Tetris in a Jnes emulator
linjoehan: classic tetris that is
struct: Im still thinking on how I should prune moves
linjoehan: https://github.com/linjoehan/TetrisAI if you want to have a look see.
Wontonimo: what's your algo struct? Mine is simulator+GA (all taken from my CSB GA)
struct: im going to try smitsimax
linjoehan: AI is basic but gets to kill screen at least.
linjoehan: *sometimes
Wontonimo: linjoehan - put a few screen shots on your github page if you want more likes/views/forks
Wontonimo: That's really cool linjoehan, what got you interested in that?
linjoehan: I saw the CTWC on youtube and thought mm I wonder if... so here I am
linjoehan: CTWC = classic tetris world championship
Wontonimo: i should re-read smitsimax. I just did a mulit-agent MCTS for SC2020 and it did well, but I don't know if there are some gold-nuggets in the smitsimax that i missed
struct: With GA you need to do each pod at once right?
jacek: and youre gonna do reinforcement learning for tetris?
Wontonimo: struct - yeah for GA I budget 15% of the time for my pod, then 15% for the next (15% for the 3rd if it exists) then the remainder is spend on improving mine
Wontonimo: unlike CSB, the angle isn't relative but instead absolute. That made a huge improvement
struct: yeah but with smitsi since it is mcts like
struct: I dont want many moves
Wontonimo: right, i was thinking about that earlier today
struct: Currently I have 25
struct: which is just 360 / 15
struct: + dont move
Wontonimo: and all the thrust levels
struct: no
struct: only 100
Wontonimo: all power all the time. i like it
struct: I havent implemented boost yet
linjoehan: jacek I don't know how to do that yet so maybe. I was thinking to do it with a variable eval and Genetics to find where it should be varied to
Wontonimo: okay, so here is another idea to reduce that search space
ota-alt: I cant figure out any of the problems without looking at the solution :(
struct: ota-alt try solving it with pen and paper first
Wontonimo: instead of ALL angles, include the angle towards the next checkpoint, +- 10 degrees of that, the angle towards the each opponent +- 10 degrees. see where that gets you
Wontonimo: and for the next checkpoint, use the p-3*v for thrust
ota-alt: struct what do u mean?
struct: I will try it, thanks
struct: ota-alt sometimes solving the problem with pen and paper will help
struct: Then you will know what to code
ota-alt: but how would I do do that I don't understand
Wontonimo: sounds like you are fairly new to programming ota-alt. Although I hope you get into this site, it may be a bit hard at this time. Does anyone have a recommendation of something a bit more approachable for beginners?
Wontonimo: codingame is hard(er)
struct: Yeah, its not suited to beginners
Wontonimo: i've heard that https://www.codewars.com/ is good
Wontonimo: but i've never actually tried it
ota-alt: I used scatch before but uh not very good to learn pproggraming with
Westicles: Intelligence is more important than experience. Either you are capable of doing it or you are not
Wontonimo: oh, i was going to suggest scratch. good for you!
Wontonimo: Westicles lol
ota-alt: I got into python like 2 moths ago just slow at learning oof
Wontonimo: I can see that code wars supports python https://www.codewars.com/?language=python
ota-alt: hmm ok
Wontonimo: struct - I don't know if what I suggested would actually work. Why I think it would work is that your MCTS will become a search of micro heuristics instead of moves. This did really well for me in Mars Lander optimization
Wontonimo: the micro heuristics are : go to next checkpoint , hit an opponent
Wontonimo: and that's a much smaller search space than all moves
Wontonimo: Scarfield - what are you using for slcc?
Astrobytes: smitsi
Wontonimo: Astrobytes, are you using smitsi?
Astrobytes: Nope
Wontonimo: you were around 30 something and now you shot ahead of me! what are you using?
Astrobytes: Modified version of my CSB, just a GA, nothing fancy
Astrobytes: (RHEA GA)
Wontonimo: sigh ... my GA isn't as good then
Astrobytes: Keep tweaking it
therealbeef: GA doesn't seem so suitable for this kind of game
Astrobytes: It was actually the top at one point (for CSB) , before the minimax variant, then NNs, then Smitsi, then NNs from Hell
therealbeef: that's the problem with GAs
Wontonimo: what's the problem?
therealbeef: quick gains, but not really optimal
Astrobytes: They have their applications, on CG all GAs are just RHEA, nothing interesting. So limited, yes.
Wontonimo: on CSB my GA got 85th, so no shabby.
therealbeef: it's randomized, which means it helps when you don't know how to find the optimal solution, but once people start to understand the game better, they can typically come up with a better solution
Wontonimo: no, i disagree. there is no need to make it a random start. you can have it start from a place of reason
Astrobytes: Ah, well, they're usually pretty well tuned. Not just full random.
Wontonimo: i started slcc with the p-3*v , and then when switching to GA, it starts with p-3*v as the baseline
therealbeef: not fully random, but randomized. it's different from making small steps where you know every step improves the solution for example
Astrobytes: I mean you sort the best and mutate/crossover among those
Wontonimo: yeah, use a mutate functions that is small and an eval function that discounts the future
Wontonimo: and then your gradient becomes smoother
Wontonimo: now your GA is searching a nice gradient
Astrobytes: Yeah, you have to discount. Or you're gonna get stuck in a local maxima at some point
therealbeef: but if you have a nice gradient you dont need randomized search
therealbeef: i wonder if CSB has many local maxima
therealbeef: it feels convex
Astrobytes: There's not much wrong with jumping around the solution space a little
Wontonimo: i see what you are saying. if you can calculate the derivative of the gradient, then of course, just do it empirically.
ZarthaxX: RHEA astro?
ZarthaxX: explain
Wontonimo: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2003.12331.pdf
Wontonimo: Rolling Horizon Evolutionary Algorithms
Astrobytes: ^ thanks Wontonimo
jacek: trolling algorithms, i might like that
therealbeef: i think GAs have a use, but it depends on the search space
Astrobytes: ZarthaxXolutionaryAlgorithm: just to distinguish from other evolutionary algos which can get really kinda deep
Astrobytes: (subject-wise, not search depth)
Zenoscave: PEW PEW
Zenoscave: Seems I've dropped bit in sofia
Wontonimo: so, care to share what your last change was Astrobytes ? (at a high level of course)
Astrobytes: Wontonimo: I think I just fixed a typo from an earlier version :D
Astrobytes: Zenoscave: heyyy dude, yes, competition is... fierce!
Wontonimo: oh thanks, i'll try that too :/
Zenoscave: I've only 42 lines of ruby, so... Probably about time time to sim
Astrobytes: I'll get back to you on what it was Wontonimo (doing about 4 things at once here)
Wontonimo: lol
Astrobytes: Zenoscave: Ah the math approach
jacek: :x
Zenoscave: Normalization of vectors is funnnn
ZarthaxX: Astrobytes since when ppl use this type of ga? damn
ZarthaxX: PEW PEW
Smelty: `~'
Zenoscave: PEW PEW zarthie
Westicles: Is Dapo really expected to win, or is that just a running joke?
Astrobytes: No, if there's a prize he most probably will.
darkhorse64: in the last semi private contest, he first submitted 15mn before the end
Astrobytes: normally it's 15 ms :D
ZarthaxX: :rofl:
darkhorse64: he found a bug, break the submit, and restarted
Astrobytes: I mean, he's good. I can't knock him for what he does. It's allowed on here to hide, if you can win like that then go ahead, I ain't bothered.
ZarthaxX: by good do you mean god?
Astrobytes: heh no, he's good.
ZarthaxX: i would say he is a beast lol
ZarthaxX: it's sad that he doesnt share his knowledge tho
ZarthaxX: never saw a postmortem from him
vagos: ppl never use javascript on this ?
Astrobytes: Hehe yeah, fair! I never understood why people have any issue with him on here tbh, he's always been really nice to me.
ZarthaxX: he has been rude
Astrobytes: Apparently this is true. I can only speak from my experience
ZarthaxX: you werent born in cg yet tho, so you didnt get to see it
ZarthaxX: those were the dark years, the reign of terror of dapo (?
Astrobytes: I was CG born in 2015, I just failed to do anything. I had no clue about contests. Just thought there were puzzles
ZarthaxX: damn before me
ZarthaxX: :C
ZarthaxX: i got 40 first take that !
Astrobytes: haha oh nice! shit, I never noticed that
Illedan: Nice
Astrobytes: Or maybe I did and forgot :thinking:
Illedan: My first contest was 500
Astrobytes: Gratz anyway tho!
Illedan: and I had no clue how to do anything better
ZarthaxX: got 40 yesterday haha
ZarthaxX: clash big achievement
ZarthaxX: 500 rank?
Astrobytes: ffs, clashing, ZarthaxX you knob
Illedan: Oh, thought you talked about contest ranks :P
ZarthaxX: thanks guys <3
Illedan: pff
Illedan: ^^
Illedan: gg zarth
ZarthaxX: Astrobytes i didnt really play
ZarthaxX: made a tool that entered games
ZarthaxX: lmao
Astrobytes: A big boy played for you then ran away?
ZarthaxX: if i had a kid i would have done that
jacek: ban
ZarthaxX: (?
Astrobytes: Illedan: my first was Code Royale, I still have no idea how I got into silver with the shit I wrote :D
Illedan: lol
Smelty: ^^
ZarthaxX: how is that gaming equipment going illo
Illedan: shhh
Astrobytes: It didn't get into silver on submit when the multi opened,
ZarthaxX: :rofl:
ZarthaxX: Astrobytes happens, i didnt get legend in many games when multi opened
ZarthaxX: so sad
Wontonimo: i still haven't got into a contest ... my first is coming up in a few weeks
Wontonimo: so noob
ZarthaxX: -> wins
Illedan: https://www.codingame.com/replay/539222887
I code a lot of stuff. And this is now my greatness. NO idea where it failed :sob:
ZarthaxX: wanna play a clash Astrobytes :D
Astrobytes: ZarthaxX: Bite my dull, non-metal ass
ZarthaxX: damn so sad Illedan
ZarthaxX: Astrobytes aight but AFTER that wanna play
ZarthaxX: lol
ZarthaxX: i need to get to top 1k
ZarthaxX: :c
Wontonimo: Illedan - are you using relative angles or absolute angles in your search. it kinda looks like relative is searching for the next target
Wontonimo: wait ... you are #3 ...
Illedan: :P
Wontonimo: way beyond my bot
ZarthaxX: he is gud
Wontonimo: really, i thought there were hundreds of people in 13th place
Astrobytes: :rofl:
ZarthaxX: what
Astrobytes: Sarcasm ZarthaxsM
Illedan: AHHH
ZarthaxX: :(
Illedan: My boost search only allowed it to use 0-120 angle -.-
ZarthaxX: so chat found a bug
Illedan: Sure, I'll just share my code and you find the bug?
Wontonimo: therealbeef - what are you suing in slcc? not GA, that we've established
Wontonimo: *using
Astrobytes: Sounds great Illedan, put it on Discord though :P
ZarthaxX: i said chat found a bug, not that we will find more Illedan
ZarthaxX: but send me an email
ZarthaxX: i will fix your code
ZarthaxX: :)
therealbeef: wontonimo just gradient descent
Illedan: Wontonimo, I'm using GA
Wontonimo: WHA !?! okay, now my GA is looking sad and underperforming Illedan
therealbeef: i used the algo i had made for search race; it works well there, but can't deal so well with opponents
ota-alt: it may have took me an hour but I finally fished the Decnet :) :) :)
Wontonimo: okay, i have to admit my GA is dumb. it has a population of ... drum roll ... 2! And no cross over or diversity metric
ZarthaxX: 2????????
Illedan: That is not a GA
Wontonimo: your telling me
Illedan: Basic MC
Illedan: :)
therealbeef: adam and eve?
Wontonimo: okay ... time to make a population. should only be 5-10 lines of code
Kitkat260: hi
Westicles: There's our favorite FBI agent
Wontonimo: ^^
ZarthaxX: who lol
Wontonimo: hey Kit kat FBI, while you are here may as well learn how to program
ZarthaxX: what is happening lol
Astrobytes: ZarthaxX: Things! And Stuff!
octopuscabbage: use cross entropy method don't use genetic algorithms, CEM is simpler and works better it just doesn't have a "cool name"
ZarthaxX: Astrobytes thanks i guess :P
The_10x_Engineer: For Ghost in the Cell what is the time delay
The_10x_Engineer: I mean like what is the maximum time
The_10x_Engineer: woops
ZarthaxX: The_10x_Engineer you can find it in the puzzle
Astrobytes: should say at the bottom of the statement?
Wontonimo: it's in the description
ZarthaxX: statement
ZarthaxX: i won whatever
ZarthaxX: you both owe me a cookie
The_10x_Engineer: ZarthaxX alright
Astrobytes: shut up ZarthaxX :P
ZarthaxX: that's abuse of power right there
ZarthaxX: :c
Astrobytes: Bite me
ZarthaxX: i would but you are too far
Astrobytes: :rofl:
The_10x_Engineer: I dont see it :pensive:
The_10x_Engineer: It doesn't look like it's there
The_10x_Engineer: :thinking:
Wontonimo: very bottom
The_10x_Engineer: "E.g. Capture a close factory which produces only 1 cyborg OR capture a distant factory which produces 3 cyborgs."
The_10x_Engineer: tjat
The_10x_Engineer: that's what I see
The_10x_Engineer: at the bottom
Astrobytes: check Constraints?
The_10x_Engineer: Where
ZarthaxX: in the very deep of the ocean
Astrobytes: There is a trench
Wontonimo: and in that trench
Astrobytes: there is a ....
ZarthaxX: The_10x_Engineer scroll super down
ZarthaxX: there is a part that says
ZarthaxX: Output for one game turn
ZarthaxX: do you see that
ZarthaxX: he is ded
ZarthaxX: :coffin:
Smelty: there is a...
ZarthaxX: he is trolling us
Astrobytes: road
Wontonimo: a road to madness
Wontonimo: or spongebob
ZarthaxX: patrick?
Astrobytes: Definitely no simple highway
Smelty: nary, there shalt be onion
Smelty: on the road
Topazz: rip me
Astrobytes: But you'll be torn aparty
Astrobytes: *apart
Wontonimo: apart at aparty ... like a pinata
The_10x_Engineer: ZarthaxX I'm looking now
The_10x_Engineer: Oh
The_10x_Engineer: wait so does that mean I can just use C++ and speed it up
Astrobytes: Sensing a new hellraiser movie "We'll tear your soul aparty-ayyyy YOUR PINATA WILL BE LEGENDARY! IN MEXICO AND HELL!"
ZarthaxX: The_10x_Engineer i mean c++ is the fastest
Scarfield: its getting late i can tell xD
ZarthaxX: Scarfield they are hallucinating
Wontonimo: more like work finished 2 hours ago for me and i've been drinking since
Astrobytes: The_10x_Engineer: Yes, just use C**C
ZarthaxX: it's a pity, toad left some strange cloud here and they got infected or smth
Scarfield: xD
The_10x_Engineer: ZarthaxX thanks man, I'll just use that, cause I guess when you do too much adding python slows down
Westicles: Astrobyte or Cenobite
Astrobytes: I'm drinking beer, listening to a Grateful Dead show from 1976 on youtube with a bunch of hippies, talking here, talking on discord and tweaking things in my bot
ZarthaxX: The_10x_Engineer np, anyway look at the n1 on gitc, he is in python
Astrobytes: Westicles: heh heh heh
ZarthaxX: so in this particular case speed isnt a limitation
ZarthaxX: Astrobytes talking on discord with OTHER friendos??!
Astrobytes: CG friendos! Well 1 is! Out of 3!
ZarthaxX: ah ah okey
ZarthaxX: gotta jump on voice chat some day
ZarthaxX: never talked with struct lol
Westicles: friendos... No CG for Old Men
Astrobytes: ehhh, we should get Scarfield and TBali and struct and do one of those weird CG Escape Rooms ZarthaxX
Astrobytes: Westicles: :D
Scarfield: checked the other day, there is no new rooms yet
Astrobytes: Apparently 'coming soon' according to discord
ZarthaxX: i never complete one damn
Smelty: sad
Smelty: i finished the 80s one
ZarthaxX: i will try to be for next one :)
Scarfield: yea, you could click "help" but didnt do anything
Jeff06: jfaixo il serait temps ;) petit replay pour le fun: https://www.codingame.com/replay/539007864
Scarfield: help as in help with the puzzle
Astrobytes: We can arrange one with you ZarthaxX: you do all the work and we give you hints and troll you
Scarfield: lol jeff
ZarthaxX: HEY THAT SOUNDS SO COOL!
Scarfield: i want to be a part of that xD
ZarthaxX: i love to be the experiment bunny
ZarthaxX: you guys are so savage with me
ZarthaxX: :C
Scarfield: "it puts the lotion on its skin"
Astrobytes: Jeff06: haha it's like a little dance
ZarthaxX: the f LOL
Astrobytes: HAH
Jeff06: woops wrong chat ;)
Astrobytes: It's OK, we saw the amusement :)
Wontonimo: what's your plan there Jeff06 ? trying to timeout your opponents?
The_10x_Engineer: ZarthaxX this is an exercise in my mathematical ability, I'll do actual computer science ability later, python sucks he's probably using machine learning :joy:
Scarfield: trying? he succeded quite well
The_10x_Engineer: Unless he's not
The_10x_Engineer: :eyes:
The_10x_Engineer: which he very well might me
The_10x_Engineer: be
The_10x_Engineer: :eyes:
ZarthaxX: aight you do you haha
ZarthaxX: i think you can manage with heuristics, if else spaghetti
Astrobytes: Hm, not submitting anything til tomorrow methinks
ZarthaxX: gl then :)
The_10x_Engineer: :)
Smelty: :o
Astrobytes: Ehhh DMX died
Astrobytes: Oh and the Queen of England's husband too lol
Scarfield: was just about to say that
Astrobytes: DMX far more important
ZarthaxX: ;(
Scarfield: the possible omnipotent queen will dislike that
Smelty: :sleepy:
Smelty: *:cry:
Astrobytes: Scarfield: she has no authority in Scotland! :P
Mrs.GloriaZindlebocker: Oh dear
luana-uriarte: console.log('sum');
BlaiseEbuth: https://pics.me.me/you-have-no-power-here-memeful-com-13873543.png
Astrobytes: exactement BlaiseEbuth
Smelty: yes
Smelty: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/3f4035ab-a4a2-4372-95a8-7848945766e7
Scarfield: im sure she has some scheme to colonise
Smelty: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/7c771fc3-a6db-4c95-ae65-cd6eaf275e77
Smelty: hmm
BlaiseEbuth: Everybody puts on his kilt ! We gonna fight some english, drink some beers, and eat haggis !
BlaiseEbuth: #nessie #victoryforwilliamwallace
Astrobytes: (And celebrate with our Breton kin with kouign-amann and lambig)
BlaiseEbuth: Yeah!
**BlaiseEbuth is not Breton but will act as if.
Astrobytes: Hey the French and Scots are known as the Auld Alliance
Astrobytes: We cared for each other
BlaiseEbuth: Right
Astrobytes: It was in the 13th century but who cares
BlaiseEbuth: The master of puppies can't win against us
Astrobytes: Depends if they watch Kittens on the Web
Scarfield: im off for tonight, gn :)
BlaiseEbuth: :wave:
Astrobytes: Anyway, I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. CSB pods banging into the shoulders of my pod. I watched CSB games more often than I've been near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
ZarthaxX: cya scarfo
ZarthaxX: :*
Astrobytes: *sleep, not die :P
BlaiseEbuth: :thinking:
Astrobytes: BladeRunner quote
BlaiseEbuth: Google agree
Astrobytes: I've been up since 0430ish so I kinda empathize with ol' Roy there currently :P
BlaiseEbuth: To many ref kill the ref
Astrobytes: Anyway, sleepage time
Astrobytes: gn all
Smelty: gN
ZarthaxX: gn astro :*
ZarthaxX: see you tomorrow
Astrobytes: tomorrow Zartho :*
andichin: hello?
andichin: anyone here?
andichin: hiiii?
BlaiseEbuth: Nope
ZarthaxX: hey
BlaiseEbuth: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
andichin: hi!
andichin: does anyone want to do some clash of code
andichin: with me
ZarthaxX: sorry BlaiseEbuth lol
BlaiseEbuth: That's Ok... Bad coordination
andichin: haha
Wontonimo: okay, I can't get my population 10 GA to do better than pop 2 :( very :(
BlaiseEbuth: :thinking:
ZarthaxX: Wontonimo leave this place
ZarthaxX: you failed your initiation
Wontonimo: i did
ZarthaxX: you rpbo have a bug
ZarthaxX: i used to put like pop 50
ZarthaxX: check your elite thingy
ZarthaxX: preserving best X
Wontonimo: i must eat my engineering degree as punishment for my disgrace
ZarthaxX: oh you are an engineer :O
ZarthaxX: nice
ZarthaxX: electronics?
ZarthaxX: or soft
Wontonimo: Computer and Electrical
ZarthaxX: gah almost hehe
ZarthaxX: anyway, check those things i said
ZarthaxX: maybe helps
Wontonimo: they couldn't make up their mind when they were making the department
ZarthaxX: lmao :rofl:
Wontonimo: yeah, i think you are onto something ZarthaxX
andichin: how old are u guys
Wontonimo: 12
ZarthaxX: 4
Wontonimo: times something
andichin: lol
ZarthaxX: same
BlaiseEbuth: 666
BlaiseEbuth: And a month
ZarthaxX: OFC
Wontonimo: that's 666 1/12 ... better make it 2 months
therealbeef: not a millennial
BlaiseEbuth: I don't choose my age...
The_10x_Engineer: are you sure?
The_10x_Engineer: just be your ideal age
BlaiseEbuth: That's a trick, when I get 666y 11m 30d, I celebrate my 666th birthday, and nobody notice. :smiling_imp:
The_10x_Engineer: :brain:
BlaiseEbuth: Problem is I have no idea how old I really am... :thinking:
The_10x_Engineer: How do I print an error in python
BlaiseEbuth: Just run your code
The_10x_Engineer: not funny
The_10x_Engineer: I want to print out an error
The_10x_Engineer: an error message
The_10x_Engineer: so I can see an actual output
BlaiseEbuth: For debugging ?
The_10x_Engineer: while not making the entire game crash
The_10x_Engineer: Yes for debugging
BlaiseEbuth: You have an example of how to do in the default code.
Wontonimo: print("hello",file=sys.err,flush=True)
Wontonimo: something like that
The_10x_Engineer: :thinking:
The_10x_Engineer: um... alright
The_10x_Engineer: sys has no attribute err :eyes:
Wontonimo: stderr
The_10x_Engineer: Finally
Westicles: 10yo engineer, stop being so needy
Westicles: Making us yanks look bad
The_10x_Engineer: Well it's fine python was too slow for my way anyway
Wontonimo: 12 yr
BlaiseEbuth: :rofl:
The_10x_Engineer: I'll just use C++ so I can actually know what's going on
The_10x_Engineer: My god it works
BlaiseEbuth: You can call me Blaise.
Wontonimo: oh great Blaise in the sky
BlaiseEbuth: :thumbsup:
Smelty: o' great god Blaise, enlighten me with your wisdom
BlaiseEbuth: Beer is the answer.
Wontonimo: and it isn't just a morning drink anymore
BlaiseEbuth: Never been ! :scream:
Smelty: :0
Wontonimo: i have surpassed the Blaise
Wontonimo: Beer was the answer, oh, and but fixes
BlaiseEbuth: :thinking:
ZarthaxX: bug*
Wontonimo: HAHA. yes, bug fixes
Wontonimo: so, turns out beer doesn't help with spelling
ZarthaxX: haha
ZarthaxX: so tru
BlaiseEbuth: Fix your Balmer pick
Wontonimo: ??
BlaiseEbuth: Was an internal Microsoft studies, about the correlation between quantity of alcohol drunk by a person and his productivity.
BlaiseEbuth: The ideal value is called 'The Balmer pick'
BlaiseEbuth: my bad
BlaiseEbuth: "peak" in english
Wontonimo: i like it! I think this requires more experimentation on my part to find my ideal Balmer peak
BlaiseEbuth: :3
Wontonimo: well, the main change I made that has got me a bit higher in the leaderboard is to assume only my bot has boosts.
Wontonimo: Weird, I know, but it seems liked my bot was being overly defensive thinking the others have lots of boosts
BlaiseEbuth: Oh. You're a few places above.
Wontonimo: i supposed it could be reverse computed from the derivative of the velocity of the other bots (taking into account collisions)
BlaiseEbuth: "derivative of the velocity"... :thinking:
Wontonimo: aka acceleration
BlaiseEbuth: One of us is far above his Balmer peak.
Wontonimo: being fancy ... "change in velocity" hows that?
BlaiseEbuth: Hmmm...
Wontonimo: on a straight path, your velocity will be v0 * 0.85 + v1, which if you are not boosting will be a maximum of v0*.85+100
Wontonimo: if you notice another bot exceed that, they either boosted or were bumped
Wontonimo: right?
BlaiseEbuth: Yeah I get the idea.
Wontonimo: i'm not going to implement it.
Wontonimo: *if* I was going to do something else it would be to write a subroutine to detect when there is no hope in catching up, and so switch tactics to try and make the opponent time out
Wontonimo: maybe
BlaiseEbuth: Difficult to know exactly what happened when there is collision...
Wontonimo: do you track or handle other bots boost?
Wontonimo: i'm grasping at straws here
BlaiseEbuth: Nope... I'm not at this stage. ^^'
Wontonimo: i'm out. Good luck!
BlaiseEbuth: :wave:
quyen0w0: hi
BlaiseEbuth: o/
solution.cpp: that was the most frustrating clash of code ive played
ErrorRazor: How have I never heard of escape.codingame.com before
