DJ-ALOK: WHY I HAVE TO REFRESH THE PAGE FOR PLAY THE CLASH
Miki09: I'm in public clash and it's working.
Miki09: I'm taking back. You have to reload the page to see the changes.
Papyrus_HB: can someone help me with the thor challenge, i can not find the flaw logic in my codes at all. I dont know what I missed
Miki09: episode 1 or episode 2?
Papyrus_HB: 1
Miki09: Musíš jen najít směr od jednoho bodu k druhému.
Papyrus_HB: I wrote the code. but somehow it did not work as intended
Miki09: You just have to find the direction from one point to another.
Papyrus_HB: I did
Papyrus_HB: 'but my code did not work as expected
Miki09: And the trick is you must update points by jourself
Miki09: *yourself
Papyrus_HB: it passed the first two test cases
Papyrus_HB: is there anyway i can send the code to u
Miki09: Idk
Papyrus_HB: can u check message i sent to u
Miki09: Can u pls send it again?
Papyrus_HB: ín private message
Miki09: Give me a moment please
Papyrus_HB: Okay
jacek: happy Caturday
Illedan: :cat:
Uljahn:
DJ-ALOK: BORING CATURDAY
DJ-ALOK: jacek
Korw1n: hey folks! trying to solve "Don't panic - Episode 2" right now and can't pass the last 3 cases, it always fails with a timeout. Does anyone know if it's even possible to solve this task with depth-first search? should I keep trying refactoring that code? or should I try do it with breadth-first search instead?
DJ-ALOK: sorry i don't solve it
DJ-ALOK: so i can't help
Papyrus_HB: Can you guys play clash?
jacek: there seems to be problems today
Papyrus_HB: I cant seem to start any clash
jacek: probably yet another friday deploy to production ~
Papyrus_HB: oh need to refresh the tab
davilla: Don't Panic doesn't require any complex search
davilla: depth- or breadth-first
jacek: ep 2?
davilla: Yes, the elevators always go up.
davilla: Hold on, no episode 1.
davilla: Sorry, scratch that.
Korw1n: yeah, episode one is simple, but I was talking about episode 2 :)
davilla: Now you've got me curious.
davilla: OK but the elevators still always go up, so why can't you just use any available elevator? Sorry thinking out loud here.
Korw1n: because in episode 2 sometimes there are no elevators on the floor and you need to build one to get up
Korw1n: and usually there is no enough turns to complete the task, so you need to find the best place where to build that elevator to be able to complete the round
davilla: So the first twist is pretty straightforward, just build an elevator immediately if you need one.
davilla: Why wouldn't you want to go up immediately?
Korw1n: because you do not have unlimitend number of elevators you can build
Korw1n: you have a fixed number
davilla: OK interesting, I'm going to try the naive approach right quick just to get kicked in the butt.
Korw1n: good luck! :)
Uljahn: i guess you have to use existing elevators in the right order with your elevators built in-between to make the shortest path
davilla: ah OK I get it
davilla: if there's no elevator, building one immediately is always optimal
davilla: it's not a question of using them in the right order then
Korw1n: so have you passed the last 3 test cases?
davilla: 5 cases
davilla: but not the last ones
davilla: not most actually
Korw1n: yeah, the order doesn't matter for the first 7
Korw1n: you can build an elevator first or go left/right - you will not get a timeout
Korw1n: but for the last 3 it's somehow different
davilla: so the difficulty comes when you don't have enough clones to complete, but you do have extra elevators?
Korw1n: not sure, since I get a timeout, which means it takes too much time to find the right path
davilla: ah OK
davilla: damn now I have to finish this
Korw1n: the eights test case has 12 floors and 35 columns and a lot of elevators (sometimes more than one on a floor)
davilla: what does this have to do with HHGG anyway? :-P
davilla: getting to the next level up is easy, just trip and forget to fall
jacek: jrke is i can only DEGRADE soldiers in ATTACK range?
jacek: jrke also, can i ATTACK soldier in y+2 if there is someone blocking in y+1?
jrke: jacek there is DEGRADE bug created by my mistake yesterday in animation update i am just fixing it
jacek: but, can i DEGRADE anywhere, or only withing ATTACK range?
jacek: the statement doesn't say anything about it
jrke: anywhere
jrke: i am just fixing it
jacek: ah
jacek: second question, can soldier in x+2 be attacked if there's someone in x+1
jrke: yes
jrke: no blocking is there
AntiSquid: Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i mean the amount of turns
BlaiseEbuth: AutomatonNN
BlaiseEbuth: Automaton2000 you're supposed to restart your brother.
Automaton2000: there's a lot of calculations
Illedan: Chat :tada:
jacek: meow
aCat: meow ^^'
BlaiseEbuth: Nya!
AntiSquid: now we can discuss clashes
BlaiseEbuth: Oo
geppoz: hi was the chat down all day or it was just my problem?
jrke: yes the chat was down
jacek: oO
MSmits: hey guys
MSmits: I finished my elm implementation. Oware abapa in a FP language
MSmits: anyone want to try?
MSmits: this was for my FP class
BlaiseEbuth: elm? fp?
MSmits: functional programming
MSmits: elm is a language
MSmits: try here if you want:
MSmits: https://ellie-app.com/cNJY3ZVgCSXa1
BlaiseEbuth: oh.
MSmits: I used a negamax for the AI
MSmits: goes up to depth 6, but it beats me at depth 0 :P
MSmits: either i suck or the eval function is just good
MSmits: maybe both
AntiSquid: i get some terms of service bs
AntiSquid: no way to adblock that entire crap @_@
MSmits: oh
BlaiseEbuth: It's amazon, don't worry, you can click eyes closed.
MSmits: weird, maybe i accepted it a long time ago
AntiSquid: then i am more worried BlaiseEbuth
AntiSquid: amazon / facebook and those types of shady businesses
MSmits: it's just an elm IDE instance with a compiled html app
AntiSquid: why elm? smaller size ?
MSmits: this is the product of a FP class
MSmits: I will be graded for this
MSmits: we had to write an app in elm
MSmits: elm is easy because it compiles to JS
AntiSquid: i know the benefits
MSmits: so you can make web apps fast
AntiSquid: but i didn't know why you use it
MSmits: i guess thats useful for a class
MSmits: I think i could write a program in haskell now too, it's very similar
AntiSquid: do you teach web dev courses now too ?
MSmits: no you still misunderstand :)
MSmits: I am the student here
AntiSquid: so you learn web dev ?
MSmits: I am doing this to get my CS teaching degree
MSmits: it's just one of 4 classes like this
MSmits: i also did an AI class, internet securty and game design
AntiSquid: how long are you studying in total for cs teaching degree ?
BlaiseEbuth: I really don't see what you mean... These little "human sized" business are totally worth of confiance...
jacek: oware in elm? :scream:
MSmits: i could waive part of it, so only a little over a year
MSmits: almost done
MSmits: will be done before summer
MSmits: jacek yeah, they suggested tic tac toe, but meh
MSmits: too obvious
MSmits: also it was supposed to be a 2p game
BlaiseEbuth: counter strike teaching degree ?
MSmits: but it's a point of pride for me to write AI instead
MSmits: BlaiseEbuth lol
jacek: and eval is from that site?
MSmits: yeah that site we all used when first writing oware bot
MSmits: it's not particularly strong for a bot, but compared to a clueless human it's fine
BlaiseEbuth: Do it in clojure now.
MSmits: no thanks :) I did get an appreciation for FP languages but I still prefer imperative
MSmits: the elm coding style is horrible btw, you can click a button to auto style my code in ellie
MSmits: it doubles the number of lines
MSmits: so i just used my own coding style
MSmits: it's amazing how you can code an entire program without using variables and loops
jacek: oh my
MSmits: so just constants, functions and recursion
jacek: :tada:
AntiSquid: "jacek yeah, they suggested tic tac toe, but meh" - should have done oware abapa with tic tacs instead of numbers
jacek: ultimate oware?
AntiSquid: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vdDiSCJLSVE/maxresdefault.jpg
**BlaiseEbuth call the DEA...
MSmits: lol AntiSquid yeah tictacs
jacek: or trictacs
AntiSquid: idk wtf i'm watching: https://izismile.com/2021/04/03/interstellar_video.html
Zenoscave: hi all. PEWPEW
BlaiseEbuth: pewpew !
Zenoscave: long time!
Zenoscave: How goes it in these parts?
AntiSquid: it's like the wild west, but without any cowboys
Zenoscave: I've been stocking up on PTO for the contest
AntiSquid: i have time off too, but have lots of other more urgent things to take care of T_T
AntiSquid: will see how much overlaps
Zenoscave: Have we learned anything about it? Multi? Single-player?
BlaiseEbuth: Rototo
AntiSquid: it's inspired from Made in Abyss if you check cover art you'll see
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/contests/spring-challenge-2021 zeno
Zenoscave: I definitely see BlaiseEbuth 's version
jacek: its obviously MLP
BlaiseEbuth: Marine LePen ?
Zenoscave: jacek, I feel like you would/do run ponyOS
BlaiseEbuth: :thinking:
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 initiate votekick for MLP suggestion @_@
Automaton2000: anyway got to go now
KiwiTae: Zenoscave pewpew
jacek: for new episode?
KiwiTae: o/
KiwiTae: hi guys
BlaiseEbuth: \o
AntiSquid: KiwiTae what does look like to you ? https://www.codingame.com/contests/spring-challenge-2021
AntiSquid: made in abyss anime/manga right?
AntiSquid: this *
Zenoscave: Anti, I didn't say jacek should... just seems up the right alley...
Zenoscave: KiwiTae pewpew
KiwiTae: princess mononoke
KiwiTae: dunno makes me think of the gremlins too
MSmits: wait isn't that the anime figure jacek reads papers about?
Zenoscave: Did you mean:
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
MSmits: I think i'll be able to join this next contest with some seriousness. Been a while
BlaiseEbuth: :scream:
MSmits: most of my study stuff will be done
jacek: MSmits shes called Quetzalcoatl
MSmits: oh ok
jacek: youd knew if you paid for the paper
MSmits: sure
BlaiseEbuth: Who pay for paper
MSmits: oh noes, not again
AntiSquid: it does look liek totoro
but it must be the episode when the descend into the hole and reach level 6 of the abyss !!!
MSmits: one time, it was one time
Zenoscave: MSmits are you gunning for top 3?
MSmits: nah
MSmits: maybe if there were 1k participants
MSmits: but these days it's 5k
MSmits: will be happy with t-shirt
Zenoscave: I'm still holding the t-shirt goal
Zenoscave: Might need to practice more these next few weeks
MSmits: i actually havent won a t-shirt in almost 2 yeara i think
Zenoscave: get my C# chops back
BlaiseEbuth: That's why I directly buy my T-shirts???
MSmits: think last one was code a la mode?
Zenoscave: I never have T.T
Zenoscave: Closest was
Zenoscave: Ocean and the last one
AntiSquid: lucky to have 1 i guess
MSmits: ahh no, my last one was ice and fire
MSmits: got 17th there in my weekend sprint
AntiSquid: it was 7k last time and during pacman there were also some very strong contestants compared to other times MSmits
Zenoscave: nice MSmits
MSmits: Zenoscave whats the main obstacle to getting top 20?
MSmits: time or ideas?
Zenoscave: ideas
BlaiseEbuth: Being naked.
MSmits: lol
Zenoscave: I always plateau in top Gold
MSmits: I see
MSmits: with me it's mostly time/energy even when I invest 80 hrs or so
BlaiseEbuth: Come in France, the plateau can go up...
MSmits: i keep getting new ideas
Zenoscave: Maybe send any extra ideas you don't have energy for to me???
MSmits: this is also why i get hooked to multis for months
MSmits: well i usually do that with multis
Zenoscave: Just figured I'd try that shot...
MSmits: and i would not mind sharing some in contests but i dont even chat due to lack of time
Zenoscave: maybe i'll do GAImax
MSmits: usually i chat a little bit 6 days in or so
Zenoscave: I have to plan work deployments around the contest this time. Let's hope I don't have any production pushes that week
BlaiseEbuth: Sell your extra ideas MSmits, you can buy a lot of t-shirts.
MSmits: sounds like labor
AntiSquid: sabotage the proj so it gets delayed Zenoscave
MSmits: i dont even wear t-shirts much
MSmits: and my wife hates the CG ones
Zenoscave: Anti... ssshhh
BlaiseEbuth: :flushed:
AntiSquid: did you wear the shirts in front of her MSmits ?
KiwiTae: quit your job before the contest
Zenoscave: I need the income to live sadly. It's expensive near me
AntiSquid: say you tested positive for covid
Zenoscave: I work 100% remote. So I don't think that'd do much Anti :D
KiwiTae: get a sugar mamma
Zenoscave: I think KiwiTae has the right idea
AntiSquid: ugh
KiwiTae: :joy:
Zenoscave: Seeing how my rent is ~1200 GBP/ mo. she better be a really good sugar availability
AntiSquid: i have the feeling it will be something similar to agar.io so in a way probably somewhat like PCR ?
Zenoscave: It's just a bot agar.io clone
Zenoscave: with fog of war
Zenoscave: WAIT NOT PHYSICS BASED I SUCK AT THOSE
MSmits: I think they are annoying, but why would you suck at those
MSmits: once you coded the sim, it's like other games
MSmits: it's the sim that's annoying
Zenoscave: I have yet to finish the sim...
AntiSquid: i have mildly improved after doing a bit of search race
MSmits: ahh ok
Zenoscave: for any of them
MSmits: but thats not an idea problem
MSmits: it's just coding speed
MSmits: it's not fun but it's not hard either
Zenoscave: I get the +/- on the vector to UI coords messed up every time
MSmits: well me too
MSmits: but try it both ways, one will stick
AntiSquid: you have to copy the referee for those and then translate or use the sims you have for other phys games @_@
MSmits: thats what i do
Zenoscave: Do they use the same engine each time?
AntiSquid: no
AntiSquid: not really
MSmits: they have different versions with small changes
AntiSquid: i mean mean max is different from the rest
MSmits: collision engine changed at some point
MSmits: it's simpler now
Zenoscave: What game would be the most up to date engine?
MSmits: csb, pcr and FB are the same i think?
Zenoscave: Speed or br2048 perhaps?
MSmits: br2048 is not by the cg devs
Zenoscave: Ah right.
MSmits: csb is probably still the newest?
MSmits: or did meanmax come later?
Zenoscave: mean max came later I believe
MSmits: ah ok
KiwiTae: yes meanmax was my first contest
MSmits: i have no actually done any physics contest
KiwiTae: csb waqs already a thing
AntiSquid: but we had search race and br2048 so i imagine they took some inspiration from there IF it is a physics game
MSmits: they are fairly close to csb though, just more friendly to codes
MSmits: coders
KiwiTae: it always takes me 4days to read wood rules
Zenoscave: gotcha
AntiSquid: could be grid based too, but not sure what the game would be like then, i mean there's a lot of grid games
Zenoscave: At least you read em. *cough cough* ceg.
Zenoscave: I have pretty good handle on grid games
MSmits: I always have 1 horrible misread that caused me to have to recode like 200 lines
MSmits: usually a line with a dubious meaning of which i pick the most unlikely interpretation
Zenoscave: I usually forget to read past wood and end up in gold with a bot compatible with wood
darkhorse64: MSmits: not tempted to try smitsimax on the sofia labs challenge ?
AntiSquid: or since there are tree in the background maybe you'll need some heavy use of trees - bfs like in fall2020 ?
Zenoscave: sofia labs darkhorse64?
MSmits: darkhorse64 when is that? I wont have time in the near future, maybe in 2 weeks or so
AntiSquid: OMG !! what if it's auto-chess !? with fury beasts ?
darkhorse64: https://www.codingame.com/ide/challenge/sofia-labs-coding-challenge
MSmits: fury or furry?
AntiSquid: 3 merge into a 2 star puff balls and 3*2 stars merge into a 3 star ! :o
MSmits: as to that, does beasts also lack an r?
AntiSquid: maybe just the later
MSmits: ahh contest already started
MSmits: no time unfortunately
Zenoscave: And you can't register from USA
darkhorse64: it's a semi private contest organized rn.
Zenoscave: Ah gotcha
darkhorse64: csb like: one pod, several boosts, instant rotation
AntiSquid: long week ahead
AntiSquid: i'll save my energy#
MSmits: ow yeah, i am guessing pb 4 already has a NN
AntiSquid: csb NN ? i don't think even transfer learning could help much ... gotta retrain from ground up and if it's 1 week ? no time
MSmits: from what i know of nns on cg, some of them train overnight
MSmits: i mainly meant the framework
AntiSquid: oh that's a hypersonic version, didn't look
darkhorse64: It has not been heavily promoted. Just in case some people here are interested
AntiSquid: wrong again it's some csb version ... why the funny picture ? https://www.codingame.com/servlet/fileservlet?id=52762724916027
MSmits: it's just a standard picture to explain the CG botting system
ErrorRazor: So the contest is not an april fools prank?
AntiSquid: this looks like search race multiplayer
MSmits: yeah it does
darkhorse64: not it's not. With collisions
MSmits: well in search race you also collide with all opponents
MSmits: there just aren't any
AntiSquid: ya that's some good manoeuvring on pb pod
jacek:
lukkaku12: Can someone help me with Dungeons and Maps? in JavaScript
Kellthazar: Ugh... this last test case of nuggets numbers.
Pepis: how to debug in here.. ?
Ordonnateur: depend on the language (try the error message of yours)
struct: hi
jacek: oO
Pepis: can i view clash, after its finished?
jacek: only the result, in notifications
Pepis: thanks
Wontonimo: finally got an adequate bot for SC2020 submitted
Wontonimo: yeah me
jacek: protoss?
Wontonimo: haha , no the CG pacman game
davilla: hi folks, question about contributions:
how do you add an image to a description?
davilla: I guess I could turn a classic puzzle into a solo puzzle, but that seems like overkill
CodeChamp101: I am 11 years old
CodeChamp101: and im doing coding
CodeChamp101: i know some codes
BAWSMAN: good stuff codechamp, consider javascript to become a codebaws
DJ-ALOK: WHY I HAVE TO REFRESH THE PAGE FOR PLAY THE CLASH
