Imsure1200q: :) first tried a puzzle lol
SilverEagle: LoL
Imsure1200q: my code complaining about literally the same value
Imsure1200q: imagine if i did x=r() and then for i from 0 upto x
Imsure1200q: where r() yields the same result every time
Imsure1200q: and so i replace the entire thing with `for i from 0 upto r()`
Imsure1200q: and suddenly its complaining about some completely different line like ha how did it get there?
Imsure1200q: huh???
Imsure1200q: game literally didn't output a direction
Imsure1200q: *input
Imsure1200q: yo i think this stuff needs fixing
Imsure1200q: broo
Imsure1200q: guys how do you report a bug
Imsure1200q: for a puzzle
ZarthaxX: prob you have a bug
Imsure1200q: cuz it just aint inputting one of the most necessary params
ZarthaxX: lol
Imsure1200q: look ok ill send you my code
ZarthaxX: no plz
ZarthaxX: what puzzle
Imsure1200q: 'Don't Panic'
Imsure1200q: well i am panicking so
ZarthaxX: you prob have a bug then
Imsure1200q: i dont understand cuz it says for every game turn
ZarthaxX: check if you read more lines than you should
ZarthaxX: so?
Imsure1200q:
Line 1: 2 integers cloneFloor clonePos and one string direction. cloneFloor and clonePos are the coordinates of the leading unblocked clone. direction indicates the current direction of the leading clone:
ZarthaxX: so?
Imsure1200q: its literally only 1 line so i start to read that line
Imsure1200q: and
Imsure1200q: for some problems it does have all 3 params
Imsure1200q: *test cases
Imsure1200q: and for test case 4 it doesnt have all 3
ZarthaxX: you should try resetting your code and printing input
ZarthaxX: just to verify
ZarthaxX: but again, prob your bug
Imsure1200q: oh so thats how it ties with the for loop thing
Imsure1200q: i dont understand it though like its literally the same for loop as before i just rearranged the values
Imsure1200q: i've literally console.errored every value its the same
ZarthaxX: mm
ZarthaxX: i dont get what you just said lol
Imsure1200q: so lets say you have like a variable x = "24"
Imsure1200q: so thats a string
Imsure1200q: and you want to have a for loop starting from 0 and ending from that number in the string
Imsure1200q: *ending to
Imsure1200q: either you can do
y = x converted to an integer
for ( var i = 0; i < y; i++)
Imsure1200q: or you can do
for ( var i = 0; i < x converted to an integer; i++)
Imsure1200q: due to substitution
Imsure1200q: for some reason though my for loop is treating it as if it werent the same thing
Imsure1200q: i kinda dont like that lol
Imsure1200q: i've even checked the type of the variable it said 'number' not 'string'
Imsure1200q: how in the world could it possibly think 1 >= 3
Imsure1200q: no way i've even checked if i+1 < 3 in the current iteration it said true like why do i need to put a redundant 3 characters in there
Imsure1200q: welp
ZarthaxX: im confused by your massive wall of text tbh :P
Imsure1200q: yeah like half of that are my train of thought
Imsure1200q: idk i fiddled with smth and it fixed it idk oh well whatever fixed now
Imsure1200q: "i have reached a limit of plays per period of time"
Imsure1200q: what
Imsure1200q: like do i need to buy some premium membership or something to unlock 50 more plays or somthing
ZarthaxX: no lol just stop spammingh submit
Imsure1200q: wasnt even spamming :(
Imsure1200q: oh cool
Imsure1200q: apparently javascript kinda has same string comparison with c++
Imsure1200q: so 'a'>'b' -> false
Imsure1200q: and 'b'>'a' -> true
Imsure1200q: everytime i close this chat bar and i see like 1000 my profile pictures on the right >:)
shashankm: hello
Imsure1200q: hi
shashankm: how should i start c++
shashankm: i m a beginner
Imsure1200q: what i did was watch youtube and do a free course
Imsure1200q: for example w3schools.com
Imsure1200q: tho thats not exactly what i used but it works
Imsure1200q: will kinda give you the basics of c++ but it might still be confusing so youtube kinda fixes that
Imsure1200q: for example i watch javidx9, his video helped me actually understand pointers and references and stuff
Imsure1200q: however :exclamation:
Imsure1200q: i am not expert'
Imsure1200q: but thats just what worked for me personally but if you wanna try the same way thats up to you
iThinkyouk: Do any of you find that the chat text input stealing the focus during a clash is kinda annoying? How do I disable it?
Imsure1200q: if its your first programming language you should also probably get used to some stuff
Imsure1200q: there is settings button
Imsure1200q: under chat box
Imsure1200q: click that
Imsure1200q: is the home page being blank because of my duckduckgo addon or its actually just blank
Imsure1200q: ok thats interesting lol
creeperZnation4: Personally, I don't mind the chat... If I find it disturbing, I just collapse it and forget about it
GoldenEra: i think u should learn c before cpp
baguettes: opposite works fine too
jade_emperror: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/163640252d733cc2de38b1957d6679a7b373584
jacek: yhm
hooshemadhoosh: hey. I got error on running my cpp code. but CG doesn't show the input of test case that I stuck on it. it just says "expected sth and found sth else" is there any way to solve this problem?
hooshemadhoosh: is there anyone can help me?
jacek: so you printed wrong answer
hooshemadhoosh: :weary:
hooshemadhoosh: are you talking with me jacek?
jacek: yes
jacek: what puzzle
hooshemadhoosh: any
hooshemadhoosh: any puzzle
hooshemadhoosh: how can I check the input of TESTCASES?
jacek: click on the rectangles right to test cases
jacek: here https://i.imgur.com/OZYrord.png
hooshemadhoosh: thank you so much jacek:smiley:
jacek: :+1:
Dan4Life: hi
Dan4Life: just wanted to say it for no reason whatsoever
heloche: hi
heloche: we're two then
Rypakka: HEy
Rypakka: makes us three
AntiSquid: hi Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i think there was a bug in your code
heloche: say what
heloche: omg !
heloche: lack of challengers today
heloche: :rage:
AntiSquid: wdym? thousands are there waiting in the multiplayer section
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming heloche
heloche: I mean still waiting too long
heloche: do we earn xp point when "winning" the challenge?
jacek: oh, where are my manners
jacek: happy Caturday
Rypakka: How do I return to the clash?
Rypakka: I suddenly got kicked back to the lobby and cant reconnect
Rypakka: After I submitted
Rypakka: I can't even see the results
jacek: dunno. the best i know is to wait for clash over and youll get notification
Rypakka: Ohh :/
jacek: no browser history?
Rypakka: I keep getting error 505
Rypakka: which prevents me from seeing each results of my previous clashes
jacek: oO
ez9: how can I make a gui with c++?
codybumba: You can use MFC or Qt.
MadKnight: ez9 use any GUI library
Norxen: SDL2 its good too
baguettes: Sad gtk noises
Selim2004: im new
Ordonnateur: isn't the tutorial boss of the week puzzle too good for a tutorial area ? it don't do a lot of mistake xd.
heloche: howdie
ROBO_17: howdie howdie how
ROBO_17: haha
jacek: tutorial boos for puzzle of the week?
eulerscheZahl: tryangle catch
jacek: its tutorial?
eulerscheZahl: it's hard to nerf your bot when you have one ready :(
eulerscheZahl: the introduction league
eulerscheZahl: wood4
jacek: oh
Ordonnateur: wooden 4 ligue are supposed as tutorial no ,
eulerscheZahl: yeah, I take the blame for the strong boss on me
Disembleergon: Timeout: the program did not provide 1 input lines in due time...
jacek: use less time for boss [solved]
Ordonnateur: (he even manage next zone to capture dist ç_ç, so many thing to implement just to go out of the tutorial xd)
jacek: Disembleergon it could also mean your program crashed
Disembleergon: yeah Im new to pthon and write if(...) return ...
eulerscheZahl: the boss is weak in a way that it finds a close triangle
but starts with 3 random units
Disembleergon: I fixed it ^^
jacek: also, where are those original tags?
AntiSquid: wood league is trial by fire
AntiSquid: the worst is yet to come
eulerscheZahl: i completely lost motivation when I got the news that it won't be a contest
Turtho: hello, i can't figure out how to keep a variable after a loop occurs, whenever it does 1 turn of loop my variables are wiped,
Turtho: any help ?
jacek: Turtho what language
AntiSquid: euler do they give a reason when they reject it?
Turtho: java
jacek: declare the variables before the loop
eulerscheZahl: declare the variable outside of the loop
eulerscheZahl: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Turtho: ok thanks
jacek: slowzahl
AntiSquid: declare the variable outside the loop Turtho
eulerscheZahl: would have been fast enough to beat Astrobytes
jacek: e.g. after the loop
Turtho: makes sense now ty
AntiSquid: no problem
AntiSquid: glad to help
QueenRi: :nerd:
jacek: hmm kovi is leading in tryangle catch by much
eulerscheZahl: and jacek has a C# bot that does the same useless drawings as the boss :smug:
eulerscheZahl: :smirk:
baguettes: smirk smirk
QueenRi: :rolling_eyes:
jacek: i copy pasted it from contribution
jacek: or maybe i taught NN to approximate your boss. who knows
Scarfield: a wild frog has appeared :) you have been missed by many
eulerscheZahl: but not forgotten. Automaton prevented that
Scarfield: xD
jacek: AutomatonNN really?
AutomatonNN: but it's not hard to tell if they make it better
QueenRi: :astonished:
Scarfield: its a little sad that Astrobytes havent seen your burn, im sure he would appreciate it
jacek: also, happy Caturday
eulerscheZahl: i can show him my die instead
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/10kiz5x
these rotations are hurting my head
eulerscheZahl: not actually "my" die, i just downloaded it
QueenRi: :rage:
Scarfield: nice, wondered what you meant by "my die"
eulerscheZahl: not bad grammar for "my death" :P
eulerscheZahl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaXigSu72A4&ab_channel=MostlySimpsons
Scarfield: "no one that speaks german can be an evil man" xD
eulerscheZahl: as a kid i didn't understand that joke
QueenRi: 4:thumbsup:
eulerscheZahl: will you stop spamming emojis QueenRi?
QueenRi: Fine
jacek: https://9gag.com/gag/aDdx5VB
AntiSquid: woah not evenly spread cover even
jacek: and what do you need dies for
AntiSquid: aesthetics for casino game ?
eulerscheZahl: for a card game of course, strange question
AntiSquid: monopoly has cards
QueenRi: Yeah
AntiSquid: why Ri and not Reeeee ?
QueenRi: Seriously
QueenRi: :rolling_eyes:
AntiSquid: ikr, how come you didn't think of it first is what i am asking myself too
QueenRi: HUH!?!?!
AntiSquid: what
QueenRi: Anyway it is tooo long
AntiSquid: cut few ees
QueenRi: Nah
QueenRi: Too much work
AntiSquid: the length is for dramatic effect
QueenRi: :rolling_eyes:
AntiSquid: :rolling_stones:
AntiSquid: what are you up to anyway QueenRi ?
QueenRi: Oh i am coding
AntiSquid: what exactly
QueenRi: A GAME
QueenRi: DUH
AntiSquid: could be anything else
AntiSquid: what game
QueenRi: Like car race
AntiSquid: ah on codingame ?
AntiSquid: or you mean you write your bot for it ?
QueenRi: Nah
QueenRi: On something else
QueenRi: Uh...
QueenRi: Phython
AntiSquid: and what brings you here traveller ?
QueenRi: Uh...
QueenRi: Just saw
QueenRi: it
AntiSquid: much wow
QueenRi: :rolling_eyes:
jacek: oh my
kovi: ouch, cg runs on 2 type of (aws) instances nowadays?
eulerscheZahl: they took down the 3rd instance?
kovi: oh there are more?
i just noticed 20% speed difference
(and unfortunately I'm still that 20% slower than top in clobber)
eulerscheZahl: CG has different machine types. others did more investigation, I never really cared
AntiSquid: is 3rd instance related to this? https://channeldailynews.com/news/fire-burns-down-ovhclouds-data-centre-in-strasbourg/73440
struct: kovi I think there are 5 machines
eulerscheZahl: i've been told there's only 1 type in use for optims
eulerscheZahl: they even rejudged all submits when they switched hardware
AntiSquid: all the submit spam for nothing :'(
kovi: for which game?
kovi: oh i c
eulerscheZahl: my code vs zombies was downgraded significantly, i might have spammed there :innocent:
eulerscheZahl: but that's years ago now
kovi: well, only for mcts i look for pure speed. and even with that i havent noticed that much different with uttt/bt
struct: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/fb195ea6-b3e1-4a84-9e3d-4e526d2efcdb
AntiSquid: ?
struct: Is what I used to check how many machines there are
struct: Also some cpus have different flags
kovi: very nice struct, thx
struct: np
lets_think: i
jacek: hmm
NoctalIvan: Hi guys, I got a free extra key for peterquest
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1144030/Pesterquest/
NoctalIvan: Please only take if you gonna play
NoctalIvan: 87J9A-5YLDZ-ELTPK
NoctalIvan: Enjoy ;)
jacek: :thinking:
BlaiseEbuth: oo
jacek: so cheesy, field
jacek: and finally a replay with en passant!
Scarfield: im happy to be of service :p
vic19: hello
vic19: world
JohnMaclaine: hahah
CodingBroke: Trying to game on a low spec PC is mad :rage:
BlaiseEbuth: Right. Buy a better PC.
jacek: those miners
**MasterCoderxD hi lol
AntiSquid: NoctaulIvan ya doesn't look good, you get much better games for free, with key too
AntiSquid: metro2033 still free to claim for ever for the rest of the weekend so i am guessing that game was self-advertising
yoyokid: Hi
eulerscheZahl: who would ever use this chat for self-advertising?
also check out my current project https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/875803b885205380cd623ba3bc4504553a26fa
MSmits: are you combining your two favorite addicitons ?
MSmits: addictions that is
eulerscheZahl: coding and gambling?
MSmits: was thinking alcohol and gamblng but sure :P
MSmits: make it 3
eulerscheZahl: btw saw your remarks about bender. you are totally overthinking it
MSmits: how so
eulerscheZahl: it was never supposed to be hard to get 100% :(
MSmits: i like that it's hard
eulerscheZahl: shall i spoiler it?
MSmits: fine with me, but do it in pm then
MSmits: just in case
jrke: my first codingame anniversary is on 18th march :heart_eyes: just discovered
eulerscheZahl: i always missed mine
eulerscheZahl: wait, really?
you aren't around for longer than a year?
darkhorse64: Still not guru after one year ? Lazy guy ...
jrke: not lazy also have to study
jrke: nope not longer than year
jrke: check my profile first rank update is on 19th march in graph
darkhorse64: Just kidding
yoyobro123: hi
yoyobro123: ok
ZarthaxX: i never got guru either hehe :rofl:
yoyokid: Hi
Ok
jrke: i am like 6-7k CPs behind the guru tag at the moment
ZarthaxX: you are 13yo wtf
AntiSquid: huh ? what's the secret spoiler sauce for bender 4 ?
jrke: oh mistake now 14 yo lemme update
MSmits: it's not secret, euler just told me his approach to solving it, nothing crazy. Kind of how we talked about it the other day
eulerscheZahl: read darkhorse's post on the forum, gives a good summary
AntiSquid: so what do you expect ZarthaxX ? that he plays with barbies?
AntiSquid: no dirty shortcut ?
AntiSquid: to solving ?
MSmits: not really
MSmits: I am just overthinking my initial solution by looking too far ahead as usual
MSmits: but I like it that way
AntiSquid: which darkhorse post ? https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/community-puzzle-bender-episode-4/84756
eulerscheZahl: the one that was writting by k4ng0u :D
AntiSquid: oh he went into great detail
**darkhorse64 makes posts on puzzles he has not solved
UnnamedCodinGamer: where is that?
eulerscheZahl: 3rd from bottom
eulerscheZahl: https://forum.codingame.com/t/community-puzzle-bender-episode-4/84756/26?u=eulerschezahl
eulerscheZahl: afk, cat needs attention
AntiSquid: he's saying k4ng0u is your alt DarkCeltic
AntiSquid: darkhorse64
UnnamedCodinGamer: thanks
darkhorse64: I have no alt. It's forbidden
AntiSquid: so derjack is an illegitimate child?
darkhorse64: Not from me
MSmits: if derjack had an evil twin it might be called darkhorse
darkhorse64: I solved aCat Cooperative Mate with Rook chess puzzle. If only all puzzles were of this quality
MSmits: it is rook mate algorithm?
AntiSquid: what quality?
describe taste
MSmits: rook + king vs king?
darkhorse64: cooperative root mate. Quality = nice graphics, known algorithm with a twist
MSmits: ah nice
darkhorse64: Both cooperate for the shortest mate
darkhorse64: I think he intend to have a non cooperative version to be solved with a minimax
darkhorse64: intends
MSmits: yay, i reunited bender and fry in the first testcase :P
MSmits: it's funny that the solution is in the name of the testcase. I meant I have a working bfs though :P Just for movement
darkhorse64: Your weekend project ?
MSmits: it's gonna be a bit longer probably
MSmits: have to start writing my thesis tomorrow
MSmits: i mean for studies, not writing a thesis on bender
darkhorse64: Time to try to steal your C4 lead now you are defenceless
ZarthaxX: thesis for comp sci ?
MSmits: kind of ZarthaxX. It's basically about improving my teaching material for 3 classes about optimization
MSmits: to teach my students greedy solutions and hill climbing
ZarthaxX: what?
ZarthaxX: thesis for a teaching career?
MSmits: well not sure if thesis is the right word?
MSmits: the class is educational design & research
ZarthaxX: you gotta design a "programme" for ypur class?
MSmits: i have to use literature and all that
MSmits: teaching material
MSmits: and lesson plans
ZarthaxX: that's what u call thesis?
MSmits: i dont know what its called
ZarthaxX: not thesis
MSmits: I am translating from my own language
ZarthaxX: i see
ZarthaxX: really cool tho
MSmits: yeah i just dont like writing stuff to tie literature together
MSmits: it's boring
ZarthaxX: hate literature
MSmits: well i like it when i am finding new algorithms in it to win at boardgames :p
ZarthaxX: did you? lol
MSmits: for D&B it worked ok
ZarthaxX: ah u meant papers
ZarthaxX: reading papers
MSmits: yeah thats called literature here
ZarthaxX: yeah sure
MSmits: I have to read papers for this thing
ZarthaxX: oh noes
MSmits: and reference them
ZarthaxX: looks like a thesis now lol
MSmits: thats what i meant, it kinda is
MSmits: but it's centered on designing classes and teaching material
MSmits: thats also a science
MSmits: didactic science?
MSmits: not sure what its called in English
eulerscheZahl: we got the idea
MSmits: this is stuff i learned on CG btw
MSmits: greedy solutions and hill climbing
AntiSquid: essay probably
MSmits: maybe thats a better word yea
ZarthaxX: smito is the CG student
MSmits: its 6000 words max
MSmits: I use the TSP as a context, but my improvement is to add more contexts and a clearer step-by-step plan to applying greedy solutions and hill climbing
eulerscheZahl: smits climbing the hill to bring back the 10 golden rules for his students
MSmits: yea :)
MSmits: as empirical evidence i did a short test with my students where i also tried to get them to figure out the backpack problem and such
MSmits: without ever having explained it
MSmits: to see if they could find a greedy solution
AntiSquid: oh my sounds like an actual paper though :P
MSmits: most couldn't, which is why i think i need more contexts
eulerscheZahl: backpack? you mean knapsack?
MSmits: right yeah, sorry its rugzak here = backpack
MSmits: i meant knapsack
eulerscheZahl: Rucksack here
MSmits: similar
AntiSquid: bindle algorithm /s
MSmits: i figured that if they see greedy solutions applied in more than 1 context (besides the TSP), it would make sense to them in a completely new context also
AntiSquid: no? Automaton2000 i failed again :(
Automaton2000: you can have a look
MSmits: also darkhorse64 dont you think you will be too busy defending your clobber to do c4 :)
eulerscheZahl: so many new games
MSmits: these are games you can write a bot for in less than a day
eulerscheZahl: but i don't want to :(
MSmits: i mean i did both of them in a few hours only, which means you can do it in less than an hour
eulerscheZahl: i'd rather like to add more content to your TODO list
MSmits: you're good at that :P
eulerscheZahl: but the dice rotation animation is still buggy
AntiSquid: idk kingdomino port isn't as fun on cg as in real life
eulerscheZahl: have you ever tried animating such a thing? it's a nightmare
MSmits: 3D rotations ? Yeah
MSmits: using quaternions?
eulerscheZahl: yes, but that part is outsourced to the library
MSmits: ah ok
eulerscheZahl: the problem: i want to know the absolute rotation values at each time
MSmits: one time i had a student working on a drone (this was as a physics teacher) and he came to me to ask me some questions. I figured it'd be easy to help him
eulerscheZahl: the library wants deltas
MSmits: and then his first question was about quaternions :P
MSmits: ah i see
kovi: tryandcatch is on fire. msmits you should try somehing which is not mcts
kovi: (and fireworks is on catch)
MSmits: looks like a great game kovi, tryangle catch i think yo mean
MSmits: but i am working on a different euler masterpiece atm
eulerscheZahl: i like bad puns
kovi: i failed with that combo
MSmits: nah it was fine, i am just bad at recognizing these puns
kovi: fireworks is catching up - would have been better
MSmits: I'm not that great at graph stuff also. Unless it's the simple tree kind we use in mcts and bfs and such
MSmits: tryangle catch is really an advanced graph game
MSmits: with adding and removing branches
struct: euler do you know if I add text input on https://i.imgur.com/H4Ere6s.png if it will be saved?
MSmits: more importantly, does it become illegal when you turn legal off?
eulerscheZahl: hm, no idea
struct: ok, I was thinking on adding text input so you could choose board color
eulerscheZahl: my player colors (list of multiple options) gets saved
eulerscheZahl: not sure if part of the toggle module or stored somewhere else
struct: https://github.com/CodinGame/codingame-game-engine/blob/master/engine/modules/toggle/src/main/resources/view/toggle-module/ToggleModule.js
struct: From what I read I cant really find where they add it
jacek: cargo cult programming eh
eulerscheZahl: must be stored somewhere. feed it into a toggle state without using that specific toggle?
Scarfield: nice die euler, but its not a true die, opposites must sim to 7
PatrickMcGinnisII: sim sum dim sum or I die
jacek: diefield 7
jacek: stupid stockfish doesnt support gensfen for chess960
MSmits: 'whats a gensfen?
jacek: plays semirandom games and generates positions and labels them for certain depth
MSmits: mmh ok
MSmits: why do you want that
jacek: i train my nn. but instead of using my crappy chess engine, why not use the best engine's evaluations?
MSmits: i gues that would help
jacek: quick & dirty tests from learning on such 10m positions gives ~55% winrate on standard position
jacek: against my best model
MSmits: I see
jacek: and ~30% on chess960 overall
MSmits: i am just trying not to get my bender magnetocuted
Scarfield: how many inputs for your chess nn jaNNek?
jacek: 2432
MSmits: whoa
Scarfield: 38 inputs per cell? why that many?
jacek: 64x38
jacek: empty, 12 pieces, and wether pawn is attacked and/or protected by other pawn
jacek: x2 for side to move
darkhorse64: A sort of simplified NNUE
Scarfield: ah makes sense
jacek: only few squares are changed
jacek: was thinking about adding passed pawn, bad bishop etc. though there would be slow down due to more squares being changed each move
darkhorse64: updating is only partial and therefore faster
Scarfield: ƎUИИ
jacek: dleifracs
jacek: and sf folks tell me they dont care about training chess960
MSmits: sf?
jacek: stockfish
MSmits: oh right
MSmits: you know sf folks?
jacek: asked on their discord
MSmits: ah ok
MSmits: they should care about chess960
MSmits: why not broaden your horizons
MSmits: chess960 is kind of a better game than chess :P
jacek: welp https://i.imgur.com/54qY4B1.png
darkhorse64: You have no problems playing chess960 if you know how to play chess but you really have to think from move 1 instead of bashing 10 moves in 5 minutes
MSmits: he liked your avatar though, thats something
jacek: actually i wonder if training on chess960 would make the net more aware of chess than fixed opening
jacek: and quick learning on 30m positions gives 60% winrate on standard opening :tada:
darkhorse64: 30m positions ?
jacek: 30 millions
Enknable: if the moves are within chess's solution space then it wouldn't be any different? But you'd be training some moves that could never happen.
jacek: well exactly. human can generalize more and deal with impossible what if scenarios
jacek: i think this was somewhat an idea behind double q-learning
jacek: deal with environment but sometimes use randomly reward from stored experience
jacek: either i really change sf code or train on standard opening then later retrain on all openings
AntiSquid: John Connor always wins
MSmits: are you doing a terminator marathon or what?
AntiSquid: no
AntiSquid: didn't really like the movies, except maybe part 4, was ok at best
MSmits: ah ok
AntiSquid: my favourite part in all terminator movies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8RMUSmIGCI
MSmits: thats evil
MSmits: :P
ANONYMOUS42: what a time to be alive
MSmits: yeah 22:26
UnnamedCodinGamer: what is a good opening move in connect 4? My mcts seems to like 3.
jacek: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/59458ca85b08f914f150d1ccf0350fe7b233
jacek: someone's meta would agree with you
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/e30500fd-fdd7-412e-8ed0-9e3efd4b32d2
MSmits: this makes it a very bad opening move, because your opponent can steal it UnnamedCodinGamer
UnnamedCodinGamer: thanks
UnnamedCodinGamer: yes
UnnamedCodinGamer: I am testing locally
jacek: lets make connect960 with random openings
MSmits: sounds like you're on the right track
MSmits: fine with me :)
UnnamedCodinGamer: from time to time it likes also 5
UnnamedCodinGamer: but they are symmetrical I guess
MSmits: yes
MSmits: identical
MSmits: thats why my meta mcts doesn't even search that
UnnamedCodinGamer: I see
MSmits: on every expansion my meta mcts applies every transformation in a game (rotation mirror etc.) and if anyone of the results have been encountered before, it skips that child
UnnamedCodinGamer: nice
MSmits: connect4 only has the one vertical axis
MSmits: but yavalath has 12
MSmits: 12 transformations that is
MSmits: nine mens morris has way more even
jacek: huh
MSmits: I think it's 48
jacek: its just square
MSmits: nope
MSmits: it has 3 concentric squares
MSmits: you can put them in any order
MSmits: and the game is the same
MSmits: which adds another 6 times as many transformations
MSmits: 6*8 = 48
jacek: i dont believe you
MSmits: thats a healthy attitude, go check it out :P
MadKnight: u guys all did bulls & cows ?
MadKnight: #2
darkhorse64: I did it
creeperZnation4: What's bulls & cows?
AntiSquid: an animal farm
creeperZnation4: ...
creeperZnation4: How do you "do" an animal farm XD
MSmits: not sure i want to know
creeperZnation4: :laughing:
darkhorse64: Clobber lb is completely random, same code #4, #5, #1
MSmits: well it's random because bots are nearly the same strength
darkhorse64: ^
darkhorse64: I got very lucky on this one 73% winrate
MSmits: ncie
MSmits: got very unlucky on my typing
darkhorse64: I have the same skills
MSmits: yea
MSmits: i think i may finally have solved bender 4
MSmits: testcases still running... so many
MSmits: euler really went all out on this one
MSmits: 30 testcases i think
MSmits: all succeeded, lets hope my submit does as well
MSmits: yay :)
darkhorse64: 50 more XP ?
MSmits: does it give xp? It's an optim
MSmits: rank 37 now, just from basic 100%
darkhorse64: no XP then, CP
MSmits: out of 878 on the leaderboard
MSmits: so few get 100%
MSmits: I gather multiple solutions per try, so i should do a check to find the shortest
MSmits: meh 5270 -> 5202 not very helpful :)
MSmits: tied with 36th now :)
MSmits: well thats it for now. I finished my weekend project, gn :)
darkhorse64: gn
UnnamedCodinGamer: gn
NeumanAlkhalil: GN
lexicons: oh nice a chat
SilverEagle: LoL
