tutubalin: can somebody please help me
tutubalin: my code is not a perfect square
tutubalin: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/626b51ec-b873-4aef-9bce-29f6dc9bc3ee
jthemphill: tutubalin use a different font? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
jthemphill: tutubalin it's quite pretty though. It's JS, right?
tutubalin: yeah
tutubalin: it's 17x9 now. i can easily make it 18x9, but would be nice to find 16x8 solution
JayM9: yo can someone help me
JayM9: real quick
JayM9: its saying im not doing this right
jthemphill: JayM9 what's up?
jthemphill: tutubalin Yeah I definitely don't know as much about ES2020 as you do, certainly not enough to shave 25 more chars off this :sweat_smile:
RAWAN_REDDY: i have a feeling coc has bots
RAWAN_REDDY: is it possible
RAWAN_REDDY: ?
tutubalin: RAWAN_REDDY there are plenty of bots
tutubalin: https://www.codingame.com/leaderboards/clash/global?column=clashescount&value=DECREASING
JayM9: dang how do you compare characters in a string
JayM9: to say if it is != to a " "
RAWAN_REDDY: okay this is sad
JayM9: im new
RAWAN_REDDY: now that i know its bots
JayM9: sorry
tutubalin: RAWAN_REDDY all level 7 with 50k+ clashes are bots
tutubalin: JayM9 which language?
JayM9: okay wtf
JayM9: java
JayM9: so its saying
JayM9: 1
JayM9: 30
JayM9: = 9
JayM9: and
JayM9: 1
tutubalin: i don't understand what are you talking about
JayM9: i have a COC that wantes me to make code off the question
JayM9: But, I have no diea what it soding
Kai-Hiwatari: hii
tutubalin: is it reverse challenge?
JayM9: wait so what is in.nextInt mean
tutubalin: it means "read next chunk as integer"
JayM9: what is N
JayM9: like it says that N = in.next();
Kai-Hiwatari: in what JayM9
JayM9: then it says that for ( loop through I < n). Then it says int A = in.nextInt
JayM9: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/8c5520a1-488c-4d64-a3e5-77294a099805
JayM9: like i dont understand waht is the loop
JayM9: and how does it work here
tutubalin: N is number of lines to read
tutubalin: every line contains 2 integers
JayM9: what is it reading it for?
JayM9: I see
JayM9: but where does it say
JayM9: whats the ppint of the loop
tutubalin: the point of the loop is too read N lines of input
JayM9: so where does it say that we have N lines of 2 integer code
tutubalin: in problem statement?
Dom9543: is this game free or do i have to later pay for it
Dom9543: ?
Dom9543: hello?
tutubalin: it's free
Dom9543: tahank god
tutubalin: later, if you're good enough, you will get paid for it
Dom9543: this is a masterpeise
Dom9543: i have problems with making two separated outputs on the same script
Dom9543: can someone help me?
Dom9543: on C#
Dom9543: pls?
rubber_duckie: I have a question... in goro want chocolate, I implemented some form of a dp code. it doesnt pass the 3rd sample test, but I received 100% on submission
tokaisch: i'm pretty new here
what is the recommended bot programming game after coders strike back
Uljahn: :confused:
Uljahn: the recommender system failed due to the cold start problem
Dom9543: Coding is hard
MSmits: mmh my cpu temperature i 99 C
MSmits: and not running much
MSmits: any chance this is a faulty sensor?
MSmits: in fact it is that temperature immediately after turning on...
darkhorse64: not enough for fried eggs, start a mata mcts and have a breakfast
MSmits: it shouldnt be possible to be that hot right after turning on, just from running windows should it?
Dom9543: fry some chyky nugys
darkhorse64: I'll see if I can get this information on my PC
MSmits: i think normal idle temperatures are 50 C or something
MSmits: or lower even
ProCoder3: in Compete events like mean and other stuff is it possible to restart the progress
ProCoder3: *mean max
Uljahn: no, there is no way to lower leagues after promotion besides making new account
darkhorse64: My CPU is at 50°. Fan is dead ?
Uljahn: probably
ProCoder3: @Uljahn Thanks
the_tiger: hello
Dom9543: how do i separate the output in the same script in C# ?
Dom9543: pls help me
KiwiTae: Dom9543 separate the output?
KiwiTae: Console.WriteLine
AntiSquid: split strings ?
Dom9543: yes
AntiSquid: google c# split strings
KiwiTae: YourString.Split(' ')
Dom9543: when i try, Console.WriteLine() it comes to the same output
Dom9543: so i can only do 1 task
Dom9543: why is it so frustrating
Dom9543: i dont know what will work
BlaiseEbuth: And we don't know what you are talking about. What are you trying to do and in which context ?
tutubalin: are you trying to output debug info to stderr?
philRG: strange on hypersonic I get following input: ..2.......2. instead of 2 (for number of players)
Wontonimo: MSmits my son's pc was having heat problems just a week ago. OPened it up and it was clogged with dust. When's the last clearning your gave your pc?
Wontonimo: His went from a roaring fan and unit heater 24/7 to a whisper and cool
darkhorse64: ^
Aiger-Akabane: hii
Uljahn: saying 'hii' is a bannable offence :smirk:
Aiger-Akabane: okk UIjahn
Passifi: Приветт
Passifi: just checking whether this is true for all languages :P
Uljahn: still there is a chance if you start using it frequently to abuse the chat
struct: MSmits should not be at 99ºC after turning on
struct: My idle temperatures for cpu are under 30ºC
AntiSquid: fan issues?
struct: maybe
struct: His fans probably spin more in 1 day than mine spin in 1 week :D
Uljahn: in case of a heat-pipes cooler could be a coolant leak
AntiSquid: got to bit board that and check it quicker
Kitkat260: gm
Kitkat260: anyone awake
Kitkat260: ?
MSmits: I just ordered a new pc.. I dunno whats wrong, i think the sensor is not good, but i dont trust it and the computer was 5 yrs old so...
MSmits: intel i9 with 32 gb ram, no GPU (still have a reasonable one)
Kitkat260: haha
MSmits: i5 with 8 gb -> i9 with 32 gb. Nice upgrade :)
darkhorse64: more threads, more books
MSmits: I think it's 10 or 12 core, not sure
MSmits: i currently have 4
MSmits: 10 it seems
MSmits: more than enough
darkhorse64: I don't know if all i9 are hexacore
MSmits: my GPU is 1060 GTX. Seemed a waste to replace that if i never use it
MSmits: can always do it later
Kitkat260: i'm confused
MSmits: a budget pick right now is the 1660 super, but it's only a little better
MSmits: my wife also complained about the noise a lot, so i picked the most quiet cooler i could find
MSmits: somehow me countering with, but... the book, didnt convince her to allow me to keep it turned on
AntiSquid: if you're unable to follow a conversation you should stay out of it :/
Kitkat260: ok
Qspi: ü
struct: which cpu are you getting MSmits?
TBali: "my wife also complained about the noise a lot,"
LOL, the main reason I abandoned years ago having a desktop PC at home was the noise. I moved to laptops with SSD. But now my laptop is too noisy as well.
TBali: It is a shame that consumer products cannot solve this issue reasonably without tweaking
struct: There are some pretty good fans
struct: The noise from my pc mostly comes from the gpu
TBali: water cooling laptops?
struct: ah, mine is desktop
TBali: desktop pc at the basement and long cable for monitor/keymourd/mouse/USB slot
TBali: *keyboard
TBali: Probably others already invented this
TBali: Or maybe there would be marked for special kitchen fridges, with a special slot for PC-s
TBali: *market
Samo_AM: Help Jack Goff find a seat in classroom which is at equal distance from his friend Bob and crush Erica such that he's as near to them as possible.
It is guaranteed that a seat always exist in middle of Bob and Erica, as they are either sitting in the same row or same column or sitting diagonally to each other.
Samo_AM: Help i need somebody
Samo_AM: help
Toby75: this is a clash of code
Toby75: dont be unfair xD
Toby75: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/633233a5b3dcbc97742b7f2513337ebc92bc
Can someone who wants take a look on my Contribution and leave a comment? Would mean a lot to me :D
Wontonimo: TBali water cooled laptop ... haha
darkhorse64: in a pool with a mojito
Wontonimo: cheers to that
Wontonimo: @Toby75 - feedback #1 = good to see a lot of test cases and validators with names even
Toby75: tysm
TBali: This office yould use it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwQRXSvgm5o
TBali: :-)
TBali: *could
Wontonimo: @Toby75 you responded to codybumba with a really good example showing a longest streak. I'd suggest copying that into the description as-is. It's worth 100's of words
Toby75: Alright, I will do that - I hope it does not make the description too long...
Wontonimo: :( yeah, there is that
darkhorse64: Make a puzzle from it
Toby75: I will create a puzzle for it rn! Thanks for your suggestions
darkhorse64: You can even design a second part: ipv6 expander
darkhorse64: :sunglasses:
Toby75: Haha yeah
Toby75: what tags can I use?
Toby75: do you have suggestions?
darkhorse64: parsing, regex, string manipulation if they exist
jacek: 5%, disappointment
darkhorse64: valid only for multis
Toby75: I added it as a classic puzzle, would be amazing if you comment again https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/633760db7852e7904b0bd35b0f28a0eedc2e
Wontonimo: Please .... please please , can me agree that the default output be hardcoded to pass the first unit test so that testing all languages works really easily
Wontonimo: seeing a green pass is way faster and easier to verify than looking at the failure message
MSmits: struct I9 10700
struct: 10900?
MSmits: wait no
MSmits: 10900 yes
MSmits: the 10700 was an ì7
MSmits: i'm skipping 7
MSmits: I still think it's weird my cpu is at near 100 C on boot. That seems physically impossible
struct: you are buying prebuilt pc?
MSmits: I think it's the sensor
MSmits: not exactly
MSmits: i selected stuff
struct: 100º is very strange
MSmits: it's built in, i only add 2 HD's from my old computer and my old GPU
struct: I probably could stop my fans at idle and it would not reach close to 100ç
MSmits: so not much work for me
MSmits: no, i think it's the cpu
MSmits: err sensor
MSmits: there may be nothing wrong with the thing
MSmits: probably thermal paste needs replacing so the cooler would have to work less hard, but i doubt it ever reaches 100 C
AntiSquid: need at least 90 C to kill bacteria, might be a covid upgrade for BIOS
MSmits: 100 C to be safe, might be the British variant
AntiSquid: heard we might get 3rd strain lol
MSmits: there's thousands of strains
AntiSquid: everyone else is lagging behind still at version 1.0.0
MSmits: most are just not significantly different
AntiSquid: have you considered merely replacing motherboard ?#
MSmits: I kinda want a new cpu, 4 cores i5 is limiting
Jstn123: hello
MSmits: i hardly ever use gpu for anything besides normal use. No gamign and stuff, so my use of the PC is very cpu centric
AntiSquid: you might need new motherboard anyway for it ?! what do you use cpu for ?
MSmits: i get a new mb, i get everything new except pherpipherals (sp), gpu and HD
Kitkat260: hello
Jstn123: hi antisquid
MSmits: i use CPU to run meta mcts
MSmits: and other kidns of benchmarking
struct: is it the normal 10900?
struct: or k or kf?
MSmits: the one without onboard graphics
Kitkat260: ?
MSmits: onchip
MSmits: the cheaper one
MSmits: because I have the gpu
AntiSquid: why the intel cpu ?
struct: I think they all have onboard graphics
reCurse: No
struct: ah the kf doesnt
MSmits: AntiSquid mostly right now because I've had intel for a few years and saw no major reason to change. Amd uses more cores no?
MSmits: thats the one I got
MSmits: yeah seems intel has slightly more clock speed and amd more cores... in general
MSmits: I really dont need more than the 10 cores I get with i9. Not looking to run many parallel threads within a single program or run too many at once
AntiSquid: and were you able to find the parts you were looking for or did you just pick what's available?
reCurse: I would have waited for 11th gen if I were you
Wontonimo: _sigh_ I'd love to have 12 cores or more with a decent nvidia card, but just can't justify it
reCurse: It's coming out next month
MSmits: too expensive
MSmits: i generally dont get top of the line stuff that costs twice as much
reCurse: Official pricing is not available yet though?
MSmits: thats just the way it always seems to be with new stuff
reCurse: They can't afford to, they need to compete with amd
AntiSquid: remember what happened to ryzen 3k series after release?
struct: leaked prices where not bad
MSmits: also i'm afraid my computer wont last another month
Passifi: Has the market on computer stuff started too cool down again ? I thought right now no one should buy unless they have too
MSmits: dont want to run into the situation where it breaks down
reCurse: If you don't look for the hottest and greatest there's plenty
MSmits: as i said, i dont know if the 100 degrees cpu temperature is a sensor glitch or not :P
struct: is it always running at 100º=
MSmits: yes
reCurse: Sounds like a glitch
MSmits: no matter what i do
MSmits: I think so too reCurse
reCurse: Do you hear fan spinning like crazy
MSmits: they always make qutie a lot of noise yes
MSmits: but even that can mean its a glitch
MSmits: if the sensor tells the fan to work
reCurse: Well if it uses sensor for fan speed yeah I guess not reliable
MSmits: i used to replace my computer every 3-4 yrs and graphics card every 2 years
MSmits: i've had the current stuff for much longer than that
reCurse: Computer shouldn't fail that early
MSmits: no, i wanted faster stuff
MSmits: i was a gamer then
reCurse: "also i'm afraid my computer wont last another month"
MSmits: that too
MSmits: i am just not sure what is wrong with it :)
MSmits: I'm hitting the reset button and getting i9 :0
MSmits: easier than worrying about it
MSmits: it's not that expensive, 1100 Euros total. Not bad if it lasts another 5 years
struct: 1100€ without graphics card?
MSmits: yes, but with 32 gb ram as well, fastest type
MSmits: and a good mb
MSmits: and casing
struct: What is the cpu price there?
AntiSquid: 32gb isn't that much anymore#
reCurse: Chances are you're not even running memory at the speed it advertises
MSmits: i had 8b :P
MSmits: have
reCurse: Unless you tweaked OC settings in bios?
MSmits: probably not
reCurse: Didn't think so
reCurse: So it's probably running at 2133
MSmits: dont remember what i did in bios 3 yrs ago
MSmits: or 5 yrs, i dunno, i dont look in the bios too often
MSmits: its ugly
jacek: no more books for you then
jacek: or from you
MSmits: how so
MSmits: i'll have the new computer in 3-6 days apparently
jacek: :scream:
MSmits: dont worry, i dont counterbook anymore. I
reCurse: They got him
MSmits: Its unsatisfying
MSmits: I just run general books and investigate games with meta mcts
jacek: thats the spirit
MSmits: that's not to say it wont make my bots better than they are without it. But i won't suddenly beat your bot 100% out of the blue
reCurse: I've been wondering if including games played against live bots in training would count as counterbooking
MSmits: hmm, it's not that dissimilar. but it has the same problems
MSmits: low variety
Westicles: But the caterwauling about the counterbooking was so fun to read...
MSmits: and people change 1 param
MSmits: and it fails
MSmits: lol Westicles
reCurse: Well it's not hardcoding moves, just biasing the training a bit towards those moves
reCurse: A bit like transfer learning
MSmits: it is similar to the paralllel between generating an opening book and training a nn to play from a fixed opening
MSmits: an opening book is useless when you change the start of the game
MSmits: a NN that trained on fixed start may lose effectiveness if you change the start also
MSmits: though that may not be true, hard to say
reCurse: I'm not saying fixed start though
MSmits: no i know, but training on opponent games is a sort of fixed thing
reCurse: Let's say I take my current generic model
MSmits: considering most opponents are pretty deterministic
reCurse: And I use it as the base for including moves it has not seen or lost games
reCurse: So transfer learning
reCurse: Is that in the same vein as counterbooking or not
MSmits: that depends on how general the knowledge becomes
reCurse: It is not the same as training only on that data at all
MSmits: if it only becomes strong against those particular versions of opponents, then its similar to counterbooking
jacek: its not counterbooking imo
reCurse: So overfitting a bot's param is counterbooking too?
MSmits: yeah it is, in a way
MSmits: it's just fewer parameters
MSmits: i did it in oware
MSmits: seemed a lot like counterbooking to me
reCurse: I'm starting to think your definition is way too broad
MSmits: well maybe it shouldnt be a definition, but a degree of overfitting
MSmits: counterbooking being an extreme form of that
jacek: you train ONLY on those positions, then maybe. but if you artificially add those positions to your general training, its alright
MSmits: jacek well.... when i counterbook it's also just addition
MSmits: i dont replace anything
MSmits: it only gets more knowledge
MSmits: I generally grow an opening book and i just fix some deep branches too it that belong to players
MSmits: i stopped doing that last bit
Scarfield: reCurse who is the boss in wood 2 for your chess multi, and do you know how it works? (minmax depth 2)
MSmits: why would he not know how his own boss works?
Scarfield: could be someone elses bot thought
MSmits: did someone else write it?
MSmits: ah
reCurse: minimax depth 2, strict material evaluation
reCurse: random on moves of equal score
Scarfield: okay ty :)
MSmits: it's very noticable when players forget to do that 2nd part :)
reCurse: I think biasing exploration with distribution of games seen on arena has nothing to do with counterbooking since the hardcoding part is what breaks the most to me.
reCurse: Same with fitting params since you have no indication it's
really overfitting or not
reCurse: So there are two concepts at play
MSmits: i do have indication
MSmits: I always fit to 5 players or so with cg bench
MSmits: if i see the winrate drop from 70% to 20% when i change a param from 2,0 to 2,05
MSmits: thats what it was like in oware
MSmits: wr vs you would drop like that and robo would go up the same amount
MSmits: trick was juggling the 8 params in such away they all stayed high
MSmits: i doubt it objectively became stronger or weaker as a bot because of those param chamges
reCurse: Still feels pretty wrong to bunch that with hardcoding moves
reCurse: That only a specific opponent plays
reCurse: They don't seem to be in the same ballpark at all
MSmits: yeah its not the same
MSmits: it has similarities though
MSmits: I mean you can get nr 1 this way, or at least rank much higher, but it's an illusionary rank in that the bot is maybe not really that strong
MSmits: because you fit to the current opponent
MSmits: it doesnt last when they submit new versions
MSmits: neither does counterbooking
Wontonimo: this is reminding me of the time the school board thought it was a great idea to "talk" to the 8th graders about not doing whippets, only to find that noone knew before but the next week nearly the whole grade was doing it. Talk of overfitting book attacks ... oh, the temptation...
MSmits: your idea to use opponent games in training may also share this, or maybe to a weak degree. As I said, i don't know how well the method generalizes
MSmits: doing whippets?
MSmits: what kind of school was this? a whippet is a dog
Wontonimo: breathing the gas from whip cream cans to get high
MSmits: oh ok
MSmits: so you mean because we talk about it, it gives you ideas?
Wontonimo: an i human?
MSmits: there are some caveats though. To properly generate books offline, your bot needs to be pretty good
Wontonimo: yeah, but that's just not my style. I'd rather lose
MSmits: doesnt have to be the best
MSmits: but good
Scarfield: does the pope make jobby in the woods.. wait thats not how it goes
MSmits: :poop:
Wontonimo: :sweat_smile:
MSmits: Wontonimo I never got into this book thing because I wanted to strictly counter players. I just liked exploring games with meta mcts. But I quickly learned it was a very small addition to select which nodes to explore
MSmits: (the nodes picked by opponents)
Wontonimo: i believe you, and i never thought otherwise MSmits
jacek: :thinking:
MSmits: I think i started using meta mcts with yavalath didnt i
MSmits: when you did jacek
MSmits: and i started counterbooking when i made one for uttt, and also started doing it in yavalath then
reCurse: At the risk of repeating myself it's a very roundabout way to do counterbooking
MSmits: I know, but thats because I dont just want to counter the opponent
MSmits: i want the replies to be generally good
MSmits: i also dont run a mcts just with more calc time
MSmits: a rollout is a whole game
MSmits: 1 visit takes 2-3 seconds
MSmits: so it may not be the fastest way to do a counterbook, but its more future-proof, incase the opponent does submit new versions
MSmits: at least i didnt give my bot crap moves
MSmits: it's probably more of a mix between general opening and counter. I just nudge it in the right direction :0
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/f7053a49-0609-425d-bc7c-72bdfe568429
MSmits: I agree Wontonimo
Wontonimo: oh crap ... i monologued and got pastebinned !
MSmits: i read it, its fine
MSmits: it's just hard when you find a tool that is reasonably fun to use and easily gets you rank 1 or near enough and then to stop using it
reCurse: Counterbooking kills competition in a way nothing else does though
MSmits: yes
MSmits: thats the main reason i stopped
Wontonimo: an "easy" solution (that would kill a lot of the visual fun) would be to not show the games but only the results.
MSmits: that would suck
MSmits: we need to see what our bots do
struct: also it stops your progress
jacek: blind chess?
reCurse: Not just visual fun but might as well optimize a black box
MSmits: even in blind chess, you see
MSmits: it's just in your head
MSmits: well not when i do it, i just do a lot of illegal moves
Wontonimo: okay, it would suck ... but let's go with this a bit, what if you are throttled with how many opponent plays you get to see a day? See all the league bot playouts you want, but only a few of other players per day
MSmits: Wontonimo i needed very few games to counterbook some players
MSmits: I literally just ran maybe 10 games to find the first loss, then watch that game and mark the nodes to explore in my meta mcts
Wontonimo: i'm not acutally suggesting suggesting this, it's just a thought experiment
MSmits: most bots are so deterministic, this approach is enough
Wontonimo: * note: must add random to counter MSmits *
Wontonimo: jk
MSmits: well you would have needed that before :P
MSmits: but its a good idea in general
MSmits: it makes your bots easier to test
MSmits: as overfitting occurs less
MSmits: just dont make it too random
MSmits: or it gets weaker
jacek: eeyup
Wontonimo: random()*9001
MSmits: well say you're using mcts in uttt
MSmits: and you have scores between 0 and 1
MSmits: then adding a random 0,01 should be ok
Wontonimo: yeah man, i get the idea dude
MSmits: kk :)
jacek: well if you do random rollouts, you dont need additional random
MSmits: you'd think so
Wontonimo: the over 9000 i see was too much eh
MSmits: but people use FastRandom(seed)
MSmits: so it's entirely deterministic, except for calc time
jacek: then just use different seed
MSmits: you should indeed
struct: Now you will be able to run 10 metas at once
Wontonimo: the meta of messing with book attacks ... make your random seed from the date (no time) so during one day it looks deterministic, fooling people into spending a lot of time into countering your fake determinism ....
Kitkat260: hi
Wontonimo: hello Kitkat260 , how goes?
Kitkat260: not bad
Kitkat260: hbu
Wontonimo: still lonely?
Kitkat260: yea
Wontonimo: ain't we all
Wontonimo: we are all *here*
Kitkat260: yep
Wontonimo: did you every stretch your wings out of CoC ?
Kitkat260: sort of
Wontonimo: did you do any challenges?
Kitkat260: yes
Wontonimo: which?
Kitkat260: i don't remember
Wontonimo: at https://www.codingame.com/training it lists what you've complete at the bottom, if you are curious or want to go back to it. I don't need to know
Kitkat260: ok
Kitkat260: i did on boarding one
Wontonimo: everyone and their mom plays this competition https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/coders-strike-back
Kitkat260: ok
Wontonimo: its got fun graphics
Kitkat260: ok
Wontonimo: ok
jacek: and physics...
Andrew-H: ok
HunterEhrenfeld: it confuses me lol
-oa-: so much trigonometry
Wontonimo: really? a little cosine never hurt anyone
Wontonimo: i haven't been in the wood league for so long i forget what data you get. What's the data and output?
HunterEhrenfeld: its pretty easy lol the only real input is nextCheckpoint and the angle
darkhorse64: In all leagues, you have got enough information to apply the -3vel heuristic
Wontonimo: have you looked in the discussion, there are hints there
HunterEhrenfeld: i have not! didnt even know it was a thing lol
Wontonimo: in the replay where you can watch your bot, there is a gear for settings. Turn on the debug. It's gold
jacek: not legend?
Wontonimo: who me?
jacek: nevermind
Wontonimo: oh ... the feature ... no, it didn't beat the boss
struct: With smitsimax with 2 runners vs 2 runners you can get close to 100% win rate on submit
Wontonimo: the boss didn't let it get promoted because it doesn't offer game replay data download
Wontonimo: struct that *almost* got me to re-read the article just now ... but work calls
struct: I think I got 100% but Im not sure
Wontonimo: i haven't given CSB anywhere near the attention of uttt. No simulation even.
jacek: buck this chess. lets train it without castling
Wontonimo: wow, the score spread at the top of chess is huge
jacek: 7 ppl in league
jacek: and i wasnt serious yet
HunterEhrenfeld: im losing battles rn.... i should retire
Wontonimo: if 4pts == 70% win rate ... the 8pt lead is what, 98% win rate
Saad-py: hi
Stark-program: what game is this
Wontonimo: chess
Saad-py: lol
Wontonimo: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/chess/leaderboard
HunterEhrenfeld: am i the only one who hates code golf? lol
Wontonimo: oh, i didn't know that the chess game was random
jacek: yeah, making castling is quite complicated
Astrobytes: it was initially 960 + CrazyHouse
Wontonimo: what's crazyhouse?
Wontonimo: lmgtfo ... i know i know
Astrobytes: You can reintroduce captured pieces
Astrobytes: In a Shogi-way
Wontonimo: that's crazy
jacek: crazyhouse has low draw rate, but about 80% 1p win
Astrobytes: wonder what the rates are like combined with 960
AntiSquid: should have done 2v2 crazy house :D
Astrobytes: Isn't that bughouse or something?
Wontonimo: Learning Opportunities : [Chess]
lol
AntiSquid: idk, too many variants ...
Wontonimo: you will learn nothing-else ! bwah hah ha
jacek: :cheese:
AntiSquid: ya there are better ways to spend your time
Wontonimo: oh, "random" as a command in chess is a nice one to get the game up and going quickly
Wontonimo: reCurse +1 for random in chess
AntiSquid: i am sure it's there to get a bot ready quicker
Wontonimo: for sure
jacek: well its random chess. random option is a nice bonus
Wontonimo: oh, 2 games in each arena battle. nice. i'll give that another +1
abolfazlghalandary: hello
Wontonimo: hi stranger
Notgoodatcoding5: Hi
bricefriha: Hi folks
Notgoodatcoding5: How are you?
bricefriha: Good, you? 😀
Notgoodatcoding5: I'm good.
jacek: good evening
Notgoodatcoding5: What's your favorite movie?
Wontonimo: arena battle tv
Notgoodatcoding5: cool
Wontonimo: i'm especially addicted to reruns
jacek: huh
Notgoodatcoding5: I've never heard of that movie.
Wontonimo: it's more like a episode thing
Wilster: bill and ted excellent adventure
jacek: mlp: the movie
Notgoodatcoding5: Mine is the Hunger games.
Astrobytes: World Chat: The Cleansing
Notgoodatcoding5: Does anyone like sports?
Wontonimo: no
jacek: Oo
Wontonimo: tbh i used to play discgolf
Notgoodatcoding5: Me and my dad play discgolf all the time.
Astrobytes: Glorified frisbee?
Astrobytes: Or is the disc more like a discus?
Astrobytes: Either way I'm not keen on sports. I competed in discus, javelin and shot put as a young man and left it there.
jacek: what about :soccer:
Astrobytes: A little bit but just casually.
Astrobytes: I still enjoy watching rugby.
Notgoodatcoding5: I like basketball ,soccer, football and some others.
Wontonimo: discgolf isn't about frisbee, it's about walking around, enjoying nature, and otherthings ... then stumbling around ... it's a degenerate sport
Astrobytes: inb4 jacek and :notepad_spiral: :soccer:
Astrobytes: I can get on board with that Wontonimo but that sounds like every time I've played frisbee :D
Wontonimo: :smirk:
Wontonimo: we'd get along well then
AntiSquid: that can only be true if you're jacek's alt, who else likes that game?
PatrickMcGinnisII: jello, there are a couple of discgolf courses in FL complete with tree obstacles, etc. its not bad ... mostly a bunch of stoners who can't afford regular golf :P
Wontonimo: ^
Wontonimo: zrdon I see you in uttt, you can't hide from me!
AntiSquid: if you see MSmits show him this, he might still be interested in new fans:
https://youtu.be/8UrSbqBOtMg?t=443
Harold2020: anyone here?
lamo43278: helli
lamo43278: hello
lamo43278: yes im here \
lamo43278: bye
abrman: Hey
Brads3290: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1611809732dd8498db90ca0b76e5e39915e3058
rumpleduff: hi
CoraZhang: hello
Notgoodatcoding5: Hi
Cafien: whats up
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Wontonimo: can you self reference ? Wontonimo
Wontonimo: nope
JayM9: yo can someone help me
