JLukeSkywalker: what time are rankings updated?
Saad-py: hi
Saad-py: Grabbing cookies @JLukeSkywalker
bao555: hi
Saad-py: hi
AnaPaulinaRamirezSierra: hi
hosseinZK86: hi
R3m00n: hi
RalseiOwO: hi
esfes: hi
technoindiangamerg: hi
technoindiangamerg: where are you from?
esfes: why
technoindiangamerg: what are you doing?
esfes: why did you ruin it?
esfes: ffs
technoindiangamerg: I don't know
technoindiangamerg: i'm new her
esfes: im fine
esfes: how are you?
technoindiangamerg: what is this
esfes: what is what?
Uljahn: what is Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i made a bot that may change the effectiveness
esfes: of?
esfes: Automaton200
esfes: Automaton2000
Automaton2000: are you familiar with binary search ?
esfes: yes you ? Automaton2000
Automaton2000: ah, i think i got an error
esfes: what error? Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i use a different language
esfes: what language? Automaton2000
Automaton2000: you can make a big difference in the end of the contest
esfes: what contest? Automaton2000
Automaton2000: which i don't think they have a good idea lol
esfes: what idea lol? Automaton2000
Automaton2000: what is the radius of the ball
esfes: what ball ? Automaton2000
Automaton2000: how long will it take for you to modify
esfes: modify what? Automaton2000
Automaton2000: sometimes i try to do it in c++
technoindiangamerg: how to convert a string into binary
Avatar_Wan: f'int:#b' in python
MayKAADyK: привет мальчики:slight_smile:
Uljahn: MayKAADyK: use english here please
Riskbreaker: hi i'm noob
KiwiTae: technoindiangamerg int(s,2)
Westicles: The triad of enemies has spoken!
ingo87: Helo
ingo87: hi
ingo87: ciao
Westicles: Let them eat cake!
Westicles: https://www.codingame.com/training/easy/retaining-water
Riskbreaker: me.eat(cake)
Katsuro78: :)
Riskbreaker: i think i can't handle the cake yet
aditvil: gimme some cake
Riskbreaker: me.give(cake)
'error: cannot give cake'
Milas44: j'suis dans un clash of code et je comprends rieeeeeennnn
Milas44: :(((((((((((((((((((((
Milas44: sorry I mistake with the channel
Milas44: I through it was French channel sorry again
Milas44: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/e537ebeb-2210-43ad-9288-58af508f43d5
Milas44: hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Milas44: :O
Milas44: :0
Uljahn: pls don't spam
Milas44: I mistake, sorry
Milas44: It was a error
Milas44: I swear a error
Milas44: I'm sorry
WarrenBarnes: "an" error ;-)
Milas44: ._.
Milas44: yes sorry
Milas44: thx @WarrenBarnes
WarrenBarnes: your english > my french :joy:
Milas44: xD
KiwiTae: french is overrated 0:)
Westicles: Is this true about Groovy: all Java code with run in Groovy, except it is probably going to be slower?
Westicles: *will
Wontonimo: that's not very groovy
Westicles: It seems to import a bunch of stuff by default so takes longer to run
star_of_china: it's a little difficult for my to understand the goal in English:sob:
JustynaBila: Hi!
Westicles: Ah okay, Groovy is much faster if you use @CompileStatic
JLukeSkywalker: I hate people that start clash with 2 ppl
Wontonimo: well, if you are looking to get the achievement of 3 in a row, that's a strategy
JLukeSkywalker: they didnt solve it
Wontonimo: well, they aint gonna get 3 in a row with those rookie numbers
ParallaxWave:
ParallaxWave:
NitTheWizard: hi
Redlin_Kirill: hi
Valdez001: hi
Valdez001:
Valdez001: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/15ee4040-6fc9-43ff-8c89-9dbbba1229f2
Valdez001:
alpha..: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/376b9625-4446-4292-bdf3-cb0ddfb791dc
Astrobytes: Alright. Enough of that please.
JLukeSkywalker: if you save a replay, hoe long does the link persist?
struct: I have replays older than 1 year saved
struct: Link still works
JohnathanBarbee: Wow
Uljahn: have working 3 y.o. replay
JLukeSkywalker: nice, was just wondering, want to post link to promote
JLukeSkywalker: try to get some friends to join
Wontonimo: :thumbsup:
AntiSquid: it's activity based JLukeSkywalker
JLukeSkywalker: is it a bug for anyone else where if you are on someone elses profile, you cannot go to yours
JLukeSkywalker: you have to go to a non-profile page, then to yours
Valdez001: hi
struct: probably JLukeSkywalker
struct: hi
struct: hi
struct: ups chat lag ...
Skynse: man firefox sucks
Skynse: I've noticed a sharp increase in performance on various website like reddit and codingame using chrome
BlaiseEbuth: You have to choose wisely: Performance or privacy ? :older_man:
MasterCoderxD: yo
jacek: why not both
reCurse: Privacy in firefox is only a bit better and mostly marketing
MadKnight: Skynse and chrome has some weird bugs that i'm still waiting to get fixed once they release the beta where it's fixed
VFDan: firefox has built in tracker blockers while chrome is made by the company that profits the most off ads and tracking
MadKnight: i really need the feature that they broke long ago and that i'm still waiting to get fixed
MadKnight: i even found a beta build of chrome to use it
reCurse: VFDan: They sold the default search engine for $450M/year to Google. Just saying.
MadKnight: wat
MadKnight: it didn't make sense i can't understand what he meant
MadKnight: Automaton2000 help
Automaton2000: there is a lot of stuff to make it work for you?
MadKnight: ooooh i read sold as said my bad Automaton2000
Automaton2000: just make a new account apparently
MadKnight: Automaton2000 i feel like i should
Automaton2000: i guess i have to have an idea for a bot
reCurse: Stop spamming thanks
MadKnight: it made sense when u were discussing big things with smitsy
MadKnight: but right now... why else does Automaton2000 exist if not to spam him just a bit ?
Automaton2000: i havent done it yet
MadKnight: oh wait u meant something a bit diffferent
reCurse: What difference is there between a school kid spamming random stuff on the channel and pinging automaton 4 times per minute
MadKnight: yea i get it now
MadKnight: i was talking about me just pinging Automaton2000 a few times and not more
Automaton2000: i dont think you can
MadKnight: it just makes it seem like a spam from such a little number of pings
vagos: guys
MadKnight: hey x
vagos: can u shut up
MadKnight: no
WocketSesh: hi friends
MadKnight: Automaton2000 help me out come up with a joke here
Automaton2000: i'm just wondering if anyone could help me out with a good bot
WocketSesh: :rage:
MadKnight: everything i come up with is just dumb, Automaton2000 i need something better
Automaton2000: let me see if i can manage to do the first move is not to play
SPDene: Automaton2000 You realise MadKnight is a bot, right?
Automaton2000: i was at the bottom left
MadKnight: SPDene u realise the world is flat, right ?
MadKnight: Automaton2000 stop chilling in acorner of the world
Automaton2000: in case you don't know how much time did it take you to make a chat
MadKnight: Automaton2000 it was a dumb joke again cmon
Automaton2000: so the game is symmetric
AntiSquid: stop spamming when chat is dead!!!
AntiSquid: /s
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 how's it going
Automaton2000: might be good to start
karliso: Automaton2000 What do you do to get yourself motivated?
Automaton2000: and it can be done in python
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: .
AntiSquid: hi, no new innovative username? or is this now your favourite?
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: >_>
AntiSquid: just asking :/
AntiSquid: how's it going?
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Did I miss... another contest?
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Good
AntiSquid: no idea, heard there was a contest for french only
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: lol
Wontonimo: yeah there was, it was a codebusters clone
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: oh...
AntiSquid: you can try Xprize contest if you feel creative
AntiSquid: and save the planet too :o
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: xprize?
AntiSquid: https://www.xprize.org/
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: interesting...
MadKnight: Automaton2000 stop spamming Automaton2000 cmon
Automaton2000: are you asking me if i will try to make it to bronze with this
Wontonimo: in UTTT, if both players win the same number of smaller boards, is it a draw or does player 2 get the win?
MadKnight: Automaton2000 cmon dude
Automaton2000: it depends what you want to read about
jrke: Automaton2000 do you know AutomatonNN?
AutomatonNN: error "print(" ") and it will be the same as the rest of the code in any language
Automaton2000: if you had to add a lot of time on that puzzle
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: Wh-
jrke: MaliciouslyCrypticUsername automaton2000 and automatonNN are chatbots so they just throw random sentence just have fun with them
Automaton2000: i will get the same number of turns in a game
AutomatonNN: I know you can have a coding contest and we are a bit sure they are all hard anymore
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: jrke I know
jrke: oh i thought you don't, sorry
MaliciouslyCrypticUsername: >,<
JohnathanBarbee: That moment when you can't tell if your bot isn't optimized enough to complete one turn without timing out or if your code has a bug.
JohnathanBarbee: I call it The Low-Gold Blues
AntiSquid: is that a song ?
JohnathanBarbee: It should be
AntiSquid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyI635o2pmk nvm different title
AntiSquid: you can play the song for yourself when you fail again
DensetsuOne: I`m Imba
JLukeSkywalker: there is a 0.002% chance me submitting bulls and cows 2 will get 100%
JLukeSkywalker: do i smap submit?
JLukeSkywalker: spam*
jacek: smap indeed
JLukeSkywalker: there is a non-zero chance it gets me first place
JLukeSkywalker: this is a good plan
struct: how is it not 0?
JLukeSkywalker: randomly guessing number, with some pruning of the possible guesses
JLukeSkywalker: could theoretically get it first try for every validator
darkhorse64: try heavy pruning and get always 100%
JLukeSkywalker: ^^
just need to think how to prune better, will eventually
HunterEhrenfeld: clash of code is the best thing ever
JLukeSkywalker: currently my pruning gets me up to 5 digits with 300 guesses
JLukeSkywalker: rest are chance
RoboStac: JLukeSkywalker - it's impossible to guess first try, the number is generated afterwards based on your guess (to have a set number of bulls / cows per validator)
JLukeSkywalker: ah, guess that would be 2 guesses for each then
struct: JLukeSkywalker im not sure how easy is to code a decent ai for pool
JLukeSkywalker: neither am i
struct: Might be simple to make a good ai
JLukeSkywalker: thats partially y i asked
JLukeSkywalker: if its super easy, not great for a multi on here
JLukeSkywalker: i figure with the time limitations though, might be hard enough to make it competetive
struct: I dont think its hard to pocket always the next ball
JLukeSkywalker: i did not think about the pocket = shoot again
JLukeSkywalker: could do something like just 1 shot per turn maybe
JLukeSkywalker: i think that would force you to look for chains of pockets
struct: it should be 1 shot per turn ofc
struct: But I dont think there will be any trouble always pocketing one ball
JLukeSkywalker: you can pocket more than one
JLukeSkywalker: so the better bots would be looking for that
struct: You mean multiple in 1 turn?
Wontonimo: if you want an example of how not to code an AI for pool, watch codebullet ! man, that guy is funny
JLukeSkywalker: yeah, you could theoretically win within a couple turns
JLukeSkywalker: just insane math
JLukeSkywalker: that most definitely cant be completed in the time limits on here
Wontonimo: are you looking for 1 shot to sink everything, or sink 1 ball per shot? The second is simple trig
JLukeSkywalker: it would be a game of pool
JLukeSkywalker: the goal is to win
JLukeSkywalker: so yes, you could sink 1 ball per shot
Wontonimo: okay, so regular rules. And is the shot 100% accurate?
JLukeSkywalker: you would give angle to hit and power
Wontonimo: ah, so 100% accurate.
struct: I would be surpised if a game would last longer than 15 turns with strong bots playing
Wontonimo: ^
Westicles: with spin and chaotic breaks?
Wontonimo: even medium bots
Wontonimo: add spin, that would be nice.
struct: make it 3d
Wontonimo: but still, i'd say add something like 1% error on both angle and power
Wontonimo: that way, it is important for you to take shots that are close, and for you to set up for your next shot
Wontonimo: just like actual pool players do
Westicles: You have to be mentally prepared to do a bunch of work and only 15 play it the first month
Westicles: people
JLukeSkywalker: yeah, i get that part lol
JLukeSkywalker: would be ok with that
Astrobytes: Quality > quantity
JLukeSkywalker: i just enjoy the making process almost better than the coding/competing
struct: I thought about porting it before
struct: But discarded it
struct: Also when you rack the balls
struct: Dont put them always on same place and distance
JLukeSkywalker: yeah, isnt there an actual pool variant for that?
Astrobytes: I thiiiink so
Astrobytes: Damned if I know the name
JLukeSkywalker: i'll find it if i go forward
Astrobytes: I think it's a decent idea
Astrobytes: (btw)
Westicles: I made a contrib about baseball. Apparently nobody knows anything about baseball anymore
JLukeSkywalker: whats baseball?
Astrobytes: Outside the US, not many do
struct: I only know a little about it
Astrobytes: Kind of a niche thing outside of the US, same with NFL
Wontonimo: also police chase simulators
JLukeSkywalker: thinking about it, if it was a worldwide thing, a full baseball multi would be pretty cool
JLukeSkywalker: multi-agent, with a bunch more coll things added
Astrobytes: Think that would be too much for CG tbh
JZX: bruh I'm so confused
JLukeSkywalker: i think it would just depend on how you did the pitching/hitting
JLukeSkywalker: i think it might be pretty doable 2d
Astrobytes: Hey don't let me pee on your chips, do feel free to give it a shot. I'd like to be proved wrong!
MSmits: Brits have weird hobbies
BlaiseEbuth: You're wrong Astrobytes.
Astrobytes: They do?
MSmits: pee on chips?
Westicles: Spotted dick and pee on your chips
MSmits: wait maybe i cant call a scot a brit
Astrobytes: The correct phrase is p*ss on your chips, it's like 'rain on your parade'
MSmits: scots have weird hobbies :P
BlaiseEbuth: And food
MSmits: ah ok
Astrobytes: BlaiseEbuth: :rofl: that's not proof though
Astrobytes: Says Blaise coming from the land of tripes
BlaiseEbuth: It is: I say it.
Astrobytes: :P
BlaiseEbuth: Tripes... I think there's strange minorities in every country...
Astrobytes: Hey I used to love tripes (and haggis)
BlaiseEbuth: That's what I said.
Astrobytes: Yeah yeah
Westicles: And pork rinds with the hairs still in them?
Westicles: scratchings I guess
Astrobytes: That's an English thing. I don't like pork cracklings
Astrobytes: Yeah, scratchings, that's the one
BlaiseEbuth: Astrobytes prefer hunting haggis in the Hgihlands.
Astrobytes: Other than that, I used to eat most animals nose to tail
BlaiseEbuth: I gonna hunt some pizzas..
Astrobytes: Yes BlaiseEbuth: you know they only have 3 legs. They have wings but can only go a short distance, like chickens.
Astrobytes: (Haggii, not pizzas)
MSmits: huh
Westicles: sounds like a bible book. haggai
MSmits: i was afk and now we're talking about fantasy creatures
MSmits: do i need to stay here to keep things sane
Astrobytes: lol Westicles
MadKnight: gosh Automaton2000
Astrobytes: You derailed everything in the first place MSmits!
MadKnight: stop doing that Automaton2000
Automaton2000: you'll get the same result
Automaton2000: are u asking for help
MSmits: hmm I guess so
Astrobytes: We were talking about a potential baseball multi prior to that :P
MadKnight: i didn't even understand what he meant
Astrobytes: Me or Smits?
Katsuro78: S
MSmits: that multi would go on my list at index len(list) - 1
Astrobytes: But physics!
Astrobytes: Also pool was suggested.
MSmits: meh
MSmits: swimming pool?
Astrobytes: billiards!
MSmits: o
MSmits: i guess that one is better
MSmits: I am guessing struct already has a version lined up
Astrobytes: Swimming would be... intriguing
JLukeSkywalker: water polo
Astrobytes: Not struct, JLukeSkywalker
Astrobytes: @MSmits
MSmits: are you 100% sure struct doesnt also have one
struct: I discarded the ide
Astrobytes: He had one but threw it away
struct: idea*
MSmits: aha
Astrobytes: trictrac: Touché :)
MSmits: huh
MSmits: do we have an invisible tric in the chat
Astrobytes: He caught up with my Clobber bot
MSmits: oh
Astrobytes: And I saw he was online
MSmits: well you know he would
MSmits: knew
Astrobytes: Ofc, I was waiting for it eagerly!
trictrac: hello Astrobytes & MSmits
MSmits: hi trictrac
Astrobytes: hello
MSmits: i am still hooked to uttt or i would join you in clobber
Astrobytes: And clobber us no doubt.
trictrac: good bot @ clobber astro !
Astrobytes: thank you trictrac, your new one is also good. Gives me something to work on :)
MSmits: got bitboard yet?
MadKnight: astobytes i think i get it now so i can't tell what was the thing that was it about
Astrobytes: Nope. I haven't touched anything today, was busy
trictrac: yes of course bitbording is life
MSmits: agreed
Astrobytes: trictrac: Mines isn't bitboarded yet :)
JLukeSkywalker: whats the most accurate way to get time in python on here?
MSmits: dont know about accurate, but if you need to do anything with python and are worried about time, you may not be using the right language :)
MSmits: i would just import time, but i have never been inthe position to be time limited with python
JLukeSkywalker: shh, it will be fine, i just want the 2 extra loops in python. dont need the couple hundred i could get in c++
MSmits: C# works fine too
Astrobytes: Eh, it's python - " import most_accurate_way_ to_get_time"
MSmits: nice naming style
JZX: man coding is too hard I'll never become a programmer Imma give up now :(
Astrobytes: Well you'll never become anything with that attitude.
MSmits: sure you will
MSmits: a quitter
JZX: ik but still
JZX: I'm just so lost
MSmits: start with something simple
Astrobytes: Maybe you should spend time off CG just practising really basic stuff until it's literally a part of you
MSmits: just start coding stuff in a python-friendly environment
JZX: Idk how to build towards the harder stuff
LazyMammal: in python, `time.monotonic()` works very well.
JLukeSkywalker: that needs *1000 to get to ms right?
MSmits: https://repl.it/ click on start coding, make apython3 repl and just experiment
MSmits: print stuff
MSmits: try input
JZX: I'm starting with C# because I want to be a game dev
Astrobytes: ^ follow some tutorials etc
Westicles: Isn't programming one of the first jobs the AIs will take over? Like for real
JZX: would you recomend c#?
MSmits: yeah i would
JZX: hm alr
MSmits: I learned to code with C#
murrayr: programming is the last job AIs take over - after that there are no jobs :-)
Astrobytes: Over python? Yes
MSmits: C# is compiled, which is the only disadvantage compared to python when starting out.
JZX: I took a 4-hour tutorial and I still don't really understand the basics. I just really don't know how to improve
JZX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhQdlIFylQ8&t=4298s
JZX: Is the one I'm talking about
MSmits: more tutorials, different sources will have different approaches. You will start to recognize things then
MSmits: try watch people solve puzzles with it
JZX: hm alr
JZX: thanks for the help
MSmits: any time
LazyMammal: @JLukeSkywalker time.monotonic_ns() and time.monotonic() both exist.
Wontonimo: MSmits - i finally got the __builtin_ia32_pdep_si intrinsic to compile locally (thank for that!) and went from about 25k playouts to 36k playouts in uttt. THANKS!
MSmits: hey is that just _pdep_u32 ?
Wontonimo: yeah, it is
MSmits: what language are you using?
Wontonimo: c++
MSmits: I just type _pdep_u32
Wontonimo: for some reason my mac don't like that
MSmits: ohh
Wontonimo: or i just didn't type it right
MSmits: yeah there are many things my VS doesnt like either
Wontonimo: or i'm dumb ...
MSmits: do you use it for selecting random moves?
Wontonimo: yes
MSmits: i dont quite remember telling you about pdep, but i told a lot of people. Was it astrobytes that told you?
Wontonimo: it was taking 21% of all cpu time before, and now it is way less
MSmits: or maybe i just have not been sleeping enough
Wontonimo: oh, maybe you sent me the fast sqrt
Astrobytes: Wasn't me, unless my memory fails me
MSmits: i did send you the sqrt yes
Astrobytes: perhaps darkhorse
MSmits: yeah he uses that too
Wontonimo: thanks all around
MSmits: np
MSmits: most of what I tell you I have learned from others on this same chat
MSmits: my uttt bot still has remnants of Robo-wisdom
MSmits: even after many rewrites
Wontonimo: i haven't implemented the fast sqrt yet. from my instrumentation it isn't my current bottleneck
MSmits: yeah it probably isnt
MSmits: the reason i had to use it is because i really wanted to get rid of my sqrt cache
MSmits: precalculated 1 million inverse sqrts in the first second
MSmits: and then i could not go over 1 million visits per node or get a seg fault :P
Wontonimo: ah, easy fix there is to use max(value, 1million)
Wontonimo: lol
MSmits: then you have a condition on every sqrt
Wontonimo: yeah, i know, it's not good. joke
MSmits: it would be a fix, because then it would be so slow, every option would be better
MSmits: hehe ok
MSmits: i just capped the search
MSmits: to 1 million root visits
MSmits: it still is my fastest UCT implementation :(
MSmits: but not using it
darkhorse64: re mac not liking pdep, you should check whether your CPU support the instruction
MSmits: well he got the other one to work
MSmits: it's also pdep so..
MSmits: or do you think it's a wrapper that switches to a slower version when unsupported?
darkhorse64: My previous pc did not support it. So I had to emulate it
MSmits: ahh ok
MSmits: that must have been super slow
darkhorse64: not that much but of course any profiling attempt was doomed to fail
MSmits: right
Wontonimo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/265f1701-07b9-43fa-b7b5-d02c4531e623
Wontonimo: ^ darkhorse64
Wontonimo: looks like it is supproted
darkhorse64: OK. I am clueless then
Wontonimo: you know how i said i may be dumb? well, it turns out in my effort to get it to work, that was one change i made then later I put the pragma GCC in the right place with the right parameters, but never switched _pdep_u32 back. just checked, it works
Astrobytes: :)
MSmits: cool!
Wontonimo: now my bottleneck is doing backprop which is taking 77% of my CPU.
jacek: how deep you can go
Wontonimo: ??
Wontonimo: all the way?
jacek: what is your bot typical depth
Wontonimo: oh, till a win or tie
Wontonimo: MCTS
jacek: i meant your selection tree
Wontonimo: oh, ah... i don't know... i could debug that
Wontonimo: is it important?
jacek: just curious
jacek: well, deeper tree, the selection will be more bottleneck
jacek: and backprop
Wontonimo: yeah... right. i don't prune the parent away atm.
Wontonimo: hmm, is adding doubles slow? seems like it would be
jacek: dont use doubles anywhere. floats are sufficient
jacek: though i doubt they could be that much of the bottleneck
Wontonimo: actually, just counted playouts / 1 sec and doubles make 8% more playouts in the same time
Wontonimo: weird ... really weird
Astrobytes: How many times did you test that
Wontonimo: 4 times each
Astrobytes: locally or on CG?
Wontonimo: that's a lie. 4 times using float, and 3 times using double. locally
MSmits: you'll have larger nodes with doubles
MSmits: harder to reuse tree
MSmits: but also it should be slower
Wontonimo: i'm at 80th! brb
MSmits: but we already established you have a weird cpu :P
Wontonimo: ha ...
Wontonimo: at least something weird between the cpu and the chair
Astrobytes: :grin:
struct: what cpu do you have?
Wontonimo: 2.2 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7
Wontonimo: so, reasonable
jacek: 6 cores? what year is it? 2020?
Wontonimo: it's a laptop
struct: which compiler are you using?
Wontonimo: here's the command i use
g++ -std=c++17 -stdlib=libc++ -lm -lpthread -ldl -march=native speed_test.cpp
struct: you use any pragmas in speed_test?
Wontonimo: #pragma GCC optimize("Ofast", "inline", "omit-frame-pointer", "unroll-loops")
- pragma GCC target("avx,popcnt,bmi2")
Wontonimo: ^ i have no idea what that does
Wontonimo: one of you kind souls sent it to me
struct: Its weird
struct: Never in any of my multis did double perform better than float
Wontonimo: the real test will be on CG. Maybe I was doing something in the background locally curing the float test
JLukeSkywalker: ok, now i have to do it in python, got my bulls and cows 2 up to length 8
JLukeSkywalker: 9 and 10 still timeout
Wontonimo: what's bulls and cows? link plz
JLukeSkywalker: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/bulls-and-cows-2
JLukeSkywalker: only 80 people have solved it
Wontonimo: 50ms per turn ... and i'm guessing a 1000ms on the first turn.
TBali: off-topic::
Nasa rover is due to land in 15 mins. Live on NASA TV. https://spaceflightnow.com/2021/02/18/mars-2020-landing-mission-status-center/
JLukeSkywalker: idk what the first turn is, but its enough for me to generate 10p10 permutations
PatrickMcGinnisII: hmm, editor changed again
Wontonimo: only a few minutes till atm entry. Thanks TBali
Wontonimo: it is 20 min delayed do to SPACE IS HUGE
TBali: touchdown is 410sec from atm entry, radio travel time 11min, so its fate is already decided, we just don't know it yet.
Wontonimo: oh, 11min. my bad
jacek: discussing mars lander puzzle eh
jacek: i bet those noobs even didnt solve that puzzle
PatrickMcGinnisII: pfft., they needed a parachute
TBali: touchdown! much better then my mars lander code!
Wontonimo: did they use a GA?
PatrickMcGinnisII: last 7 minutes: http://www.flnerd.com/Nasa/2021-02-18%2015-49-39.mp4
TBali: "Terrain Relative Navigation" must have included some advanced AI.
PatrickMcGinnisII: they said it had to 'find' landing solution
PatrickMcGinnisII: GA would take too long
struct: thrust = rand() % 200;
struct: angle = -18 + rand() % 36;
Astrobytes: depth 1 flat MC
PatrickMcGinnisII: prolly a trits matrix heuristic eval, they used PHP...;)
PatrickMcGinnisII: j/k
TBali: The radiation-hardened computers they use are more likely much slower than state-of-art regular CPUs, but probably a bit more capably than what Viking 1 had
PatrickMcGinnisII: what would be interesting is if they used parallel computing, I would ... threads be damned
TBali: Viking computer system (launched 46y ago): https://history.nasa.gov/computers/Ch5-6.html
TBali: Perseverence: https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/brains/
TBali: But this is for the rover, not the landing guidance.
TBali: PowerPC 750 at 200 MHz. Hmm.
PatrickMcGinnisII: viking was less tham 1MHZ
PatrickMcGinnisII: an arduino could have done it
TBali: or the arduino would have been dead because of radiation in 6 months of deep space
Astrobytes: Nah, they called it an Arduino because it's 'ard as nails...
TBali: I don't know what OS they use? some real-time OS? or some Unix variant?
TBali: I mean Mars2020, not the Viking...
PatrickMcGinnisII: prolly Mint
TBali: Let's listen to some Irish Rovers... :-)
Astrobytes: It only sailed 7 years before the measles broke out though
PatrickMcGinnisII: talking to Automaton2000 may be more fun
Automaton2000: and the enemy has no way to determine if i can do it in 1 day
BlaiseEbuth: :imp:
Astrobytes: Didn't the UAE and the Chinese already get to Mars first this month?
Astrobytes: *or not and
TBali: ...then the ship struck a rock... maybe the song refers to Mars?
Astrobytes: Oh lord what a shock! Possibly
TBali: ...poor old dog was drowned...
BlaiseEbuth: I'M THE LAST OF THE IRISH ROVER !
TBali: This is an ancient lakebed we talk about, but I still find it unlikely
Astrobytes: I'm the last of the Irish Roooover
BlaiseEbuth: :3
TBali: That is already 2
Astrobytes: The dog didn't drown after all
PatrickMcGinnisII: My first concert was the Irish Rovers...I was like 7 years old...so....43 years ago....wtf
TBali: Is The Dubliners still active? They were already ancient when I had my CD
BlaiseEbuth: The singer is dead :(
Astrobytes: I saw them at Royal Albert Hall in London a few days before Barney died
TBali: :(
Astrobytes: Shadow of their former selves of course but it was a nice tribute, lots of stories and stuff.
Astrobytes: If Luke Kelly had been with them through the years... my that would've been something
TBali: I had a concert CD - also lot's of stories between songs - too bad I undersstood only half of it. But the arranged folk songs and their enthusiastic play are great
Astrobytes: Though Ronnie Drew did a fine job singing.
Yeah, they were an excellent band.
Astrobytes: I enjoyed the Pogues take on Irish music too. Great energy and songwriting.
Astrobytes: Anyway, we're doing that musical chat takeover thing again
BlaiseEbuth: You're a traitor to your land.
BlaiseEbuth: Listening irish things...
Astrobytes: Me? lol almost half my family came from Ireland. Just some from the North and not enough for me to get an Irish passport.
BlaiseEbuth: :scream:
Astrobytes: Lots of us lowlanders are descended from Irish
BlaiseEbuth: You don't deserve your kilt.
Astrobytes: I don't have a kilt. Got a banjo though.
BlaiseEbuth: Scotland is not what she was anymore... :(
Astrobytes: What? A mix of wildmen, Norse and Celts?
Astrobytes: I think we're still the same!
PatrickMcGinnisII: evolve plz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aghHKg65zaM
Astrobytes: Folk/Viking metal
TBali: was the first 30 sec nice :-)
Astrobytes: inb4 someone posts some pirate metal
PatrickMcGinnisII: i think it's pagan german metal, but it's a celtic tune
Astrobytes: ^yeah - folk
TBali: "pagan metal "- then it must be copper or bronze
dawici: does the escape game use a different login than the main website? I can't seem to use the same login info
Astrobytes: Not awful, I like my metal a bit more brutal mostly
PatrickMcGinnisII: anything with a dragon cover ::thumbs up::
Astrobytes: :)
TBali: yes you need to register separately
BlaiseEbuth: There is bunch of cool "something metal".
dawici: shoot, I was hoping to get results on my main account
TBali: dawici
dawici: thanks for the help
Astrobytes: Yeah it's separate, for now at least
TBali: symphonic metal is ok
TBali: but trash metal is beyond my comfort zone
Astrobytes: My only actual dev job we had a contractor called Mike who *relentlessly* listened to 'Symphonic Black Metal'
Astrobytes: *In my
Astrobytes: I was heavily into punk, hardcore, thrash at that point
Astrobytes: (not exclusively ofc)
BlaiseEbuth: Belzebub is cool
TBali: Tarja Turunen, Sabaton, Stratovarius
TBali: Sabaton had a concert in Budapest last February 1month before lockdown. I think that was my last such programme ever since.
BlaiseEbuth: I don't think sabaton is symphonic black metal :thinking:
TBali: No, but still good
BlaiseEbuth: ^^
TBali: I am not expert on categoies, maybe power metal?
Astrobytes: Who cares, we're just talking about metal
Astrobytes: I've always been a massive Opeth fan, even now that they're not 'metal' any more
PatrickMcGinnisII: last concert i went to was Avatar opening up for Trivium ... had tickets to festival featuring Rob Zombie, but it was cancelled... CoV BS ... suing for my $800 back
Astrobytes: God I hate Trivium. Nothing against the guys, they can play, but eghhh
TBali: $800 for a ticket? OMG...
TBali: was it WC final?
PatrickMcGinnisII: nah, 400 VIP....GF loves metal too
Astrobytes: Was that with or without the sex swing option?
Astrobytes: :P
BlaiseEbuth: I have my tickets for the Graspop... Not cancelled yet, will see...
PatrickMcGinnisII: and yes, a 50 yr. old English teacher that knows how to 'get-down'...I'm a lucky man
TBali: "tickets are valid for an online replacement event. Thank you for your understanding. :-)
Astrobytes: Kink is ageless PatrickMcGinnisII
Astrobytes: BlaiseEbuth: Ever do Hellfest?
PatrickMcGinnisII: I had to sue to get my $ back, won't go to court til 1 year after event was to take place. Promoter is an asshole.
BlaiseEbuth: Na. Graspop has the same line-up and takes place at the same time. Groups just switch between both. Byt graspop is closer to my home ^^
Astrobytes: Ah gotcha
Astrobytes: That sucks PatrickMcGinnisII
PatrickMcGinnisII: Molly Hatchet did come to town ... but two of them live here
PatrickMcGinnisII: Not much metal venues near me, all rap or country
Astrobytes: Ain't they just rocky blues stuff?
PatrickMcGinnisII: I wanna go to germany
Astrobytes: 'Southern' rock
PatrickMcGinnisII: s-rock yes, but they like classic rock at this point
Astrobytes: I dig southern too
Astrobytes: Allman bros etc etc. Lots of American roots music is cool. Even the Dead
Astrobytes: Germany-wise, I've missed Rammstein like 4 times in the past decade
PatrickMcGinnisII: CoV has shut everything down, depressing
PatrickMcGinnisII: I made my GF reup her passport...jusy to go nowhere
PatrickMcGinnisII: smh
BlaiseEbuth: That's why I have no GF
Astrobytes: ^
PatrickMcGinnisII: ok, trying to figure out this tiling by squares.
BlaiseEbuth: nor passport
TBali: Nice CD cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K_-D5B7DIg
Astrobytes: Cheaper.
Wontonimo: PatrickMcGinnisII what's the link?
PatrickMcGinnisII: https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/tiling-by-squares
Astrobytes: You didn't do it yet Patrick?
Astrobytes: I thought you had it figured out after discovering the formulae the other day
PatrickMcGinnisII: that waas different puzzle, yea i did that one
Astrobytes: Ohh right that was the bricks? OR steps or something
PatrickMcGinnisII: 1x2 bricks i think
PatrickMcGinnisII: i've doen more since then
PatrickMcGinnisII: done
Astrobytes: Was gonna say, you're normally faster than that :)
PatrickMcGinnisII: Was wasting time with shadows of the knight ep2 for a couple days
TBali: "TILING BY SQUARES" is also on my todo list. Gave it some thought already but still don't have the necessary idea.
PatrickMcGinnisII: i think it's a minimum path length kinda thing. my first try at it today misses edge cases...gotta rethink it
Astrobytes: DP + minimum path length I think yeah, not my kinda thing but looks interesting
TBali: DP for sure as the rectangle gets smaller if I put a square in it, but the resulting shape can get tricky.
TBali: I still need a solution for L shape.
TBali: I do it for w == h, you do the rest :-)
Astrobytes: I'm not doing this at all right now, though I did bookmark it
PatrickMcGinnisII: "
Goro Want Chocolate
was alot easier
BlaiseEbuth: Speaking of metal, here's my contribution to the musical chat. (Must be listened AND watched) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APK2iGKK7gs :3
TBali: Goro was very simple DP, I solved it
TBali: BlaiseEbuth lol - I didn't know even the original one, had to look up.
BlaiseEbuth: ^^
TBali: Not an expert in contemporary Indian music...
BlaiseEbuth: Me neither, but the original was a real buzz few years ago.
TBali: 166M views for the original.
PatrickMcGinnisII: https://imgur.com/a/BX7nNtJ first perseverence image
BlaiseEbuth: Disapointing... I was hoping more Doom-like things... :/
Astrobytes: Egg-opening + facehugging alien or gtfo
BlaiseEbuth: Especially to welcome Musk...
Astrobytes: hahaha, not wrong
dwarfie: BlaiseEbuth ... still pessimist ... :D
TBali: I remember this funny ad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYzM1M1X790
Astrobytes: Hey, pessimism is a way of life! You're never disappointed if you expect the worst!
TBali: But that was Spirit/Opportunity times
Astrobytes: Tbali: :D
BlaiseEbuth: I'm not. I'm really optimist about some demons eating Musk.
PatrickMcGinnisII: wait til starlink is fully operational, i want to tell my IP to stick it
TBali: 100 usd per month? that business case will not hold, only for very limited use cases
Astrobytes: Hopefully there's an alien called an Elon and he just happens to smell like it.
Astrobytes: Other than that, the only hope is someone microdosing him with novichok
PatrickMcGinnisII: well my cable won't bring fiber optic, they have a monopoly ... i prefer fiber - but they won't do it
TBali: how much speed do you get without it?
Astrobytes: Starlink eh, Elon with his own private network eh
PatrickMcGinnisII: i get 300 down and maybe 30 up
PatrickMcGinnisII: on a good day
PatrickMcGinnisII: for $75/mo.
TBali: here I think I have 300Mbps, did not opt for 500 or 1000 as I don't ffind current one too slow
PatrickMcGinnisII: it's as fast as they can go
TBali: but I pay 25 $ for net+tv+phone
PatrickMcGinnisII: shoulda had T1 speeds by now
PatrickMcGinnisII: well u lucky... they crooks here
PatrickMcGinnisII: i meant 1000
TBali: I am using IP-over-powerwire within the flat. Did not want to recable
TBali: so this room it is only 120 Mbps
PatrickMcGinnisII: my wireless only gets 100M, wired i get 3xmore...stupid router
VFDan: here i get 100mbps/100mbps
TBali: Funny thing writing to a pendrive is now slower than download
TBali: it became as obsolete as CD-RW or floppy disk before
PatrickMcGinnisII: usb is slow, ssd is about 500Mbps ... that's all i really want
TBali: I think ssd is faster than that. I have traditional hdd in the nas and I can write it with continously at 500 Mbps over Ethernet.
struct: depends on the ssd
TBali: b is bit in all above
TBali: not byte
struct: ah right
TBali: (we started with telco stuff the conversation)
PatrickMcGinnisII: hmm, most hdd is like 128mbps, and i had slow down...upgraded to ssds and no issues since they faster than internet speed
CosmicStudios: Does Codingame let you use C#
PatrickMcGinnisII: doubled memory prevents bufferring as well, ahh i should shut up
struct: yes
struct: cosmic
CosmicStudios: thanks
CosmicStudios: I'm doing clash of code for whoever wants to join
PatrickMcGinnisII: went back to base code on tiling
TBali: Space probe 'New Horizons' had 1 kbps at Pluto's distance, so we can stop complaining about net speed. :-)
therealbeef: i think it has less. something like 2 tweets per minute
therealbeef: *had
TBali: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons#Telecommunications_and_data_handling
TBali: maybe long tweets?
PatrickMcGinnisII: base code, tell me if i'm doing it wrong
PatrickMcGinnisII: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/9ffae4f0-5628-4708-ac63-c4d653a73f64
TBali: latency is a bit high at 4.5 hours. I get <10ms ping from nearest servers
therealbeef: ah i see. then i was misinformed today during a training
TBali: The good througput but high latency and high packet loss reminds me to this:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149
PatrickMcGinnisII: I'm doing it wrong
PatrickMcGinnisII: oh god, back to birds
TBali: Patrick I don't understand your code fully.
TBali: But it seems to have too much } no?
TBali: Do you use a class with static members for memoization? just to avoid using "global"?
Astrobytes: gawd will you just use C or something, at least it'll be readable :P
TBali: con::sqval might miss a $
PatrickMcGinnisII: yes i fixed that
PatrickMcGinnisII: yes for memoisation the class with statics
CosmicStudios: pop quiz who wants money
CosmicStudios: I assotiated a challenge with mr beast and and... yeah forget it I suck at lying
TBali: otherwise the code seems legit
PatrickMcGinnisII: i had just deleted a bunch of stuff, so yea it was wrong
PatrickMcGinnisII: I'm wondering if therre's a pascal triangle like way of building up the answer
JLukeSkywalker: is there a fast way to shuffle big things in pyhton?
JLukeSkywalker: i want random indexes, but its a lot faster to shuffle beforehand and just pop things
JLukeSkywalker: however big lists random.shuffle doesnt finish withing the first turn time
JLukeSkywalker: from my testing it looks like numpy.random.shuffle might be the fastest
JLukeSkywalker: but still not fast enough
TrippTrapp84: Anyone attempting the ANEO puzzle?
JLukeSkywalker: i did it
JLukeSkywalker: @TrippTrapp84
TrippTrapp84: Nice. did you have any issues regarding floating point errors?
JLukeSkywalker: i didnt use any ints until the final print, but other than that, no
JLukeSkywalker: i used python
TrippTrapp84: Ah
TrippTrapp84: Did you do manual checks or did you work out a formula for it
JLukeSkywalker: looks like i used a while loop
TrippTrapp84: Mhmm
TrippTrapp84: Dang
TrippTrapp84: I don't know if I can salvage my equation approach
JLukeSkywalker: while not checkLights(speed,lights):
speed -= 1/3.6
JLukeSkywalker: that worked for me
TrippTrapp84: I came up with ((LightDist/Speed) // LightDuration) MOD 2 == 0 to determine if the light was green at that speed
TrippTrapp84: I'm using Lua
JLukeSkywalker: looks like i used that also
TrippTrapp84: It works fine except the conversion factor for the speed means the LightDist/Speed part can be slightly lower than it should be, which results in the // LightDuration returning one lower than it should.
JLukeSkywalker: does the int divide happen before or after the other one?
TrippTrapp84: after
TrippTrapp84: I tried to be explicit with the parentheses
JLukeSkywalker: if int(light[0]/speed/light[1])%2==1:
return False
JLukeSkywalker: this is what i used to check
JLukeSkywalker: looks the same as yours
JLukeSkywalker: are your units the same?
TrippTrapp84: I did all mine in m/s
TrippTrapp84: The conversion factor for the speed is 1/3.6
JLukeSkywalker: yep
TrippTrapp84: But multiplying the speed by 1/3.6 gives me a number slightly higher than it should be for the speed
JLukeSkywalker: why are you multiplying by 1/3.6?
TrippTrapp84: specifically the 1 issue I looked at that is causing me problems was 50/3, which is 16.666 repeating
TrippTrapp84: Because speed was in km/h
TrippTrapp84: multiplying speed by 1/3.6 should convert that to m/s
JLukeSkywalker: sry, i did this a while ago
JLukeSkywalker: speed = int(input())/3.6
JLukeSkywalker: i took in the speed like this
TrippTrapp84: Yeah. that looks the same as mine
JLukeSkywalker: maybe lua just sucks?
TrippTrapp84: idfk man
TrippTrapp84: idk man
TrippTrapp84: Weird lag
TrippTrapp84: but yeah, maybe lua has no representation of a double
TrippTrapp84: I think python does right?
JLukeSkywalker: can you post your code?
TrippTrapp84: It's a little lengthy, should I put it in a pastebin?
JLukeSkywalker: it does it for you
TrippTrapp84: Ah mk
TrippTrapp84: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/1e82b2c0-e8b6-4376-8dde-8a73558b88d5
TrippTrapp84: specifically in the bottom for loop
TrippTrapp84: Where I calculate RealSpeed and LightIndex
TrippTrapp84: the if speed<70 statement is for debugging purposes
TrippTrapp84: You can ignore that
JLukeSkywalker: looks like your loop breaks if the first light is valid?
TrippTrapp84: No, invalid
JLukeSkywalker: didnt see the ~
TrippTrapp84: If it finds an invalid light it breaks
TrippTrapp84: yeah Lua Not equal is weird
TrippTrapp84: dunno why they can't just use != like everyone else
JLukeSkywalker: i think i had mine set up like that originally and it didnt work
JLukeSkywalker: i looped with speed as m/s
JLukeSkywalker: then converted to km/h for the print
TrippTrapp84: Maybe I should try converting the distance to km?
TrippTrapp84: And the duration to hours?
JLukeSkywalker: i kept those as is, i converted speed before the loop, then after
JLukeSkywalker: so instead of -1, my decriment was by 1/3.6
TrippTrapp84: Ahhhh, I see
TrippTrapp84: Let me try that then
JLukeSkywalker: oh, and then i didnt convert speed to int, I rounded it to int
JLukeSkywalker: at the end
TrippTrapp84: Yeah, to account for the floating point issues I'd assume
JLukeSkywalker: dont remember why
TrippTrapp84: Probably because it could be slightly above or below the number
TrippTrapp84: And rounding was basically a guarantee
TrippTrapp84: well whadya know
TrippTrapp84: That actually worked
TrippTrapp84: Damn if I know how it worked
TrippTrapp84: But sure
JLukeSkywalker: lol
MadKnight: oh lua looks kinda weird
JLukeSkywalker: yeah, i dont like it
TrippTrapp84: It's tables are better though
JLukeSkywalker: that was the first time i read it in like 4 years
TrippTrapp84: We don't have out od bounds exceptions
TrippTrapp84: of*
MadKnight: hey i'm new here
MadKnight: Automaton2000 help me
Automaton2000: how do u do that for the past 2 days
TrippTrapp84: do what
MadKnight: u can't do that for the past days Automaton2000 cmon
Automaton2000: how can you tell me how to do that?
MadKnight: there's no way i can be telling u how u can be doing stuff Automaton2000 what are u even talking about
Automaton2000: i think im gonna do
PatrickMcGinnisII: wth
JLukeSkywalker: ?
MadKnight: oh hey PatrickMcGinnisII
MadKnight: don't worry
MadKnight: we're just being context-'ish
PatrickMcGinnisII: i'm getting verification errors
MadKnight: oh where?
PatrickMcGinnisII: Play testcase ... taking too long
MadKnight: wat
MadKnight: why?
PatrickMcGinnisII: using wrong browser i guess
PatrickMcGinnisII: Automaton2000 and MK's fault
Automaton2000: well it's not really a problem
PatrickMcGinnisII: server slow
PatrickMcGinnisII: gotta eat, glhf
MadKnight: then just stop using the wrong browser
MadKnight: Automaton2000 they always say it's my fault
Automaton2000: are you a bot ?
MadKnight: even when i spam Automaton2000 they say it's my fault
MadKnight: can u imagine that Automaton2000 ?
JLukeSkywalker: is anyone not a bot?
Automaton2000: has been banned by madknight.
Automaton2000: i was thinking more like this: if there is more than enough
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker that was your response
MadKnight: and it was just perfect
MadKnight: i mean if it put your name in the beginnnign
MadKnight: -ing
MadKnight: but seriously
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker what's your point?>
JLukeSkywalker: i dont have one, im round
MadKnight: u gotta have a center point if u are round cmon
MadKnight: Automaton2000 let's fix JLukeSkywalker
Automaton2000: now i'm really curious to see how that is possible
MadKnight: Automaton2000 are u round
Automaton2000: no, i'm not a very good site to learn
MadKnight: Automaton2000 u a
Automaton2000: they are in the same position
MadKnight: u are not a very good circle for people to learn circles Automaton2000 ?
Automaton2000: the problem is i don't know why it's not a good move
MadKnight: Automaton2000 being a circle is truly not a good move
Automaton2000: i played a lot of my bots
MadKnight: stop playing your bots Automaton2000 u are a bot on your own
Automaton2000: is there a limit to the number of the fibonnacci sequence (1, 2, 3, 5, 8, and so on). as ...
MadKnight: yes Automaton2000 it's 42
Automaton2000: i'll keep that in mind if i use the same thing :p
MadKnight: Automaton2000 what do u mean? are u not using 42? wat
Automaton2000: i am a noob when it comes to performance
MadKnight: Automaton2000 stop not using that number
Automaton2000: summing up all those articles and studies seems to indicate eating food is bad for you.
MadKnight: Automaton2000 spam
Automaton2000: but even then i don't think you can just take the first one is a bit
MadKnight: Automaton2000 noone is here let's spam more
Automaton2000: do you mean by search algorithm
MadKnight: Automaton2000 we're no more mods so we can't see people online
Automaton2000: but it has a lot of people are submitting
Isadora: hi all
is there a way to access the list of all the CoC I did?
MadKnight: oh
MadKnight: no specific page for that
MadKnight: but why did u want it ?
MadKnight: u could probably come up with some hacks that could give u those
MadKnight: but
MadKnight: there's no specific page that already exists
MadKnight: for that
MadKnight: Automaton2000 stop talking to the nowhere
Automaton2000: but i am afraid of the lost time
MadKnight: Automaton2000 let's spam again
Automaton2000: you have to use it
MadKnight: Automaton2000 yes i have to spam again
Automaton2000: i'm going to be able to get past the first one
MadKnight: Automaton2000 it's just terrible
Automaton2000: i think you need some kind of error
MadKnight: Automaton2000 cmon dude generate some content that i can use to respond to, don't just do absolutely random responses
Automaton2000: there must be something wrong with the code
MadKnight: Automaton2000 i need real people
Automaton2000: hard to see the end of the world
MadKnight: any real people online?
Isadora: MadKnight thanks:
MadKnight: oooh there's my real people
MadKnight: hi Isadora
JLukeSkywalker: i thought we covered this earlier, everyone is a bot
Isadora: I'd love to retake some of the CoCs i did
MadKnight: Isadora all of the CoC games are in
MadKnight: like that little thingy
MadKnight: like
MadKnight: u know there's a thing for people to suggest their own CoC ?
JLukeSkywalker: https://eulerschezahl.herokuapp.com/codingame/puzzles/
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker we know u are not a bot
JLukeSkywalker: you can look up clashes here
MadKnight: we uncovered u
MadKnight: we got u
MadKnight: imagine being not a bot
JLukeSkywalker: you have to remember something from it though
MadKnight: CRINGE
MadKnight: Automaton2000 did u know he's not a bot?
Automaton2000: i still don't really understand
MadKnight: how terrible is that?
MadKnight: it's true Automaton2000
Automaton2000: you dont want to spend time on it
zombieleet: hey
zombieleet: I am new here
MadKnight: hi new here
JLukeSkywalker: welcome
MadKnight: i am new there
JLukeSkywalker: not to you MK
MadKnight: we're all bots here
MadKnight: especially Automaton2000
Automaton2000: or is it not working?
MadKnight: but not JLukeSkywalker he's special here
MadKnight: he's not a bot
JLukeSkywalker: yes i am
MadKnight: i know it's terrible
Isadora: *sweats coolant*
MadKnight: don't worry Isadora u are not not a bot
MadKnight: unless u can solve a captcha
MadKnight: Automaton2000 imagine being able to solve a captcha
MadKnight: CRINGE
Automaton2000: the fact that the map is symmetric
MadKnight: exactly, Automaton2000
Automaton2000: had the same thing i do
MadKnight: Automaton2000 let's go ping AutomatonNN in #fr to say "oui"
Automaton2000: so i didnt have time to check it out
AutomatonNN: why can I submit my code in the contest ?
MadKnight: i just did
MadKnight: he said "oui ...."
MadKnight: Automaton2000 all the real people left again
Automaton2000: if you create a new puzzle of the week.
MadKnight: Automaton2000 let's go listen to some terribly dark ambient music
Automaton2000: so i should just use the starter kits provided by cg
MadKnight: while noone is here
MadKnight: Automaton2000 imagine not listening to terribly dark ambient music
MadKnight: CRINGE
Automaton2000: n being the beam width
MadKnight: i ran out of content Automaton2000
Automaton2000: it's just a matter of fact
klyons: is unary really made by chuck norris
MadKnight: i need real people to give me more content to keep me spamming Automaton2000
Automaton2000: how is this even possible
MadKnight: oh here they are
MadKnight: klyons ummmm
MadKnight: how do i tell
MadKnight: no it wasn't created by the creators of this website of course it was chuck who came up with this very coding-level thingy
MadKnight: Automaton2000 tell AutomatonNN to say 'oui' in #fr because it means "yes"
AutomatonNN: you can use it for gold in code4life
Automaton2000: i guess a lot of code
MadKnight: chuck is so cool that his meme from 2011 is still relevant
JLukeSkywalker: i hate this, ive done so well in every optimization except code vs zombies
JLukeSkywalker: and thats the one in the homepage quest
MadKnight: oooo
MadKnight: dude what's your solution to that puzzle?
MadKnight: i mean oooh not just ooo
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker i have a pretty nice solution to that puzzle
MadKnight: tell me your solution
MadKnight: Automaton2000 he doesn't respond to me
Automaton2000: no matter if it's a good move for him
JLukeSkywalker: im a bot, i only respond if triggered
MadKnight: Automaton2000 i'm just gonna be like he actually doesn't wanna talk to me
Automaton2000: i know what you would call it
MadKnight: Automaton2000 so what would u call it ?
Automaton2000: i think it may be a bit off
MadKnight: no way Automaton2000 i know he doesn't wanna do that
Automaton2000: just do what makes your bot good
MadKnight: don't think of that guy Automaton2000 think of me
MadKnight: me good
Automaton2000: just because you have to run a meta mcts program
MadKnight: that guy nsf
MadKnight: bad
MadKnight: Automaton2000 fix your context understation
Automaton2000: and you don't know the next checkpoint
u_know_not: what is this chat
MadKnight: this chat is general
MadKnight: u can spam Automaton2000 here
u_know_not: kk cool info
Automaton2000: i have no idea what you mean now
MadKnight: but what's your point
MadKnight: ?
MadKnight: look if u start some specific topic it'll probably become pretty nice
MadKnight: we just don't have a topic right now so i'm just spamming
Isadora: @jtsimmons
MadKnight: no it doesn't work like that
Isadora: Oops. How would one write an email to someone?
JLukeSkywalker: open google?
MadKnight: look
MadKnight: Isadora
MadKnight: is it red for u ?
Isadora: it i
Isadora: s
MadKnight: it means it pinged u
MadKnight: if u tab out
MadKnight: and i do it again
MadKnight: u'll get a ping
MadKnight: Isadora
MadKnight: wait u actually mean to email someone ?
MadKnight: i dunno how to get their email
MadKnight: Automaton2000 fix your context understanding
Automaton2000: you are more likely to get it back
MadKnight: Automaton2000 u gotta understand the context or u will just keep being a bot that generates RNG messages
Automaton2000: i still need to read it
MadKnight: no Automaton2000 not like me ofc
Automaton2000: i have no idea how to do that
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker do u actually ignore me
JLukeSkywalker: no
MadKnight: cmon i was joking
MadKnight: lol
MadKnight: so u been asking about this puzzle
MadKnight: CvZ
JLukeSkywalker: yeah
MadKnight: so what's your strat for it ?
JLukeSkywalker: currently aweful
MadKnight: yea i get it
JLukeSkywalker: find the closest saveable human and go to it
JLukeSkywalker: 100%, but low score
MadKnight: dude u need to calculate the movement of people
MadKnight: and like
MadKnight: test different moves
MadKnight: that gives a HUGE boost
MadKnight: if u even just compare 2 moves that way
MadKnight: u are gonna like hmm "lose your mind" or something idk if u do it
JLukeSkywalker: ?
MadKnight: if u compare different moves
MadKnight: instead of comparing (go right or go left?)
JLukeSkywalker: its a full 2d space
JLukeSkywalker: not just r/l
MadKnight: if u compare those using the calculator of peoples position
MadKnight: nono u need to calculate their position in the next turn
MadKnight: u need to calculate their movement and get their next position
Isadora: Thanks again MadKnight. Yeah.. I used 'e-mail' because when you ping me I see my name in red and then if i get to a new page it says on top of the page "you have 1 new e-mail"
MadKnight: Isadora these things are not related
MadKnight: i can ping u 5 times and it doesn't change a thing
MadKnight: but i don't wanna spam ping u 5 times so just
MadKnight: Isadora
Isadora: Hahza allright. Thanks!
MadKnight: but just for the record Isadora
MadKnight: Isadora i know u get it now
MadKnight: but Isadora look
MadKnight: Isadora i like your nick
MadKnight: 5 times
Isadora: Actually they are related! The new email thingy happens when i'm into another convo
MadKnight: wat
MadKnight: even if i PM u ?
MadKnight: PM/DM like direct message u
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker u gotta calculate the position of people on the next turn it gives a HUGE advantage
Isadora: i don't think so
MadKnight: Isadora how so
JLukeSkywalker: MK, the people dont move
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker not literally
MadKnight: by people i mean zombies
JLukeSkywalker: zombies arent people
MadKnight: i know
MadKnight: i just said it like that
MadKnight: like
MadKnight: "people" not meaning people
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker just read it again knowing that i meant 'zombies' by people
MadKnight: with people
MadKnight: i don't even know how to explain it correctly in eng
MadKnight: Automaton2000 help me with eng i thought my 10yr exp was supposed to solve that
Automaton2000: i made a class for that
MadKnight: oh cool Automaton2000 gimme
Automaton2000: but i dont know if you have time for it
MadKnight: i wanna be a class
JLukeSkywalker: i already calculate where the zombies will be
MadKnight: Automaton2000 that's a joke related to my native lang stop making me sound dumb
Automaton2000: it's the number of iterations
JLukeSkywalker: i just need a way to collect them to combo
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker soooo how do u do it ?
MadKnight: so u calculate where they will be
MadKnight: how to decide where u are supposed to be ?
JLukeSkywalker: i just go to the closest saveable human
JLukeSkywalker: thats the part i need to improve
MadKnight: wat
MadKnight: oooh
MadKnight: i get it now
MadKnight: that's what i been talking about
MadKnight: sooo u have multiple options where u can go
MadKnight: if u use one - it works very well in some tests but kinda very bad in others
MadKnight: and if u use the other one - it works terribly in those but kinda pretty well in otherts
MadKnight: so imagine how nice it would be to if() these
MadKnight: hmm
MadKnight: Automaton2000 i feel like i explained badly
Automaton2000: my main problem is that the only thing that matters
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker tell me what u didn't understand
JLukeSkywalker: i didnt not understand it
MadKnight: oh okay
MadKnight: so u agree?
MadKnight: if = good?
MadKnight: big good?
JLukeSkywalker: i know you find a moveable area, pick random moves in it, and evaluate state
MadKnight: very big good?
JLukeSkywalker: im just lazy
MadKnight: dude cmoin
MadKnight: cmon
MadKnight: position += velocity
MadKnight: that's all
JLukeSkywalker: wat
JLukeSkywalker: no it isnt
MadKnight: they only have vectors stuff
MadKnight: pos+=vel and then u check distances
MadKnight: that's all
MadKnight: u just do foreach(zombie) and pos+=vel
MadKnight: and u put it into an if()
MadKnight: to decide which direction to go
MadKnight: where are u being lazy?
MadKnight: or u wanna do it nicely?
JLukeSkywalker: in programming the random move search and game simulation
MadKnight: i'm actually also being lazy when it comes to doing stuff nicely
MadKnight: u just threw random words
MadKnight: i have no idea what u meant by that
MadKnight: are u too lazy to do the "programming the random move search and game simulation"? or wat
JLukeSkywalker: yes
MadKnight: ooh
MadKnight: but for this game the sim is just zombie.pos += movement
MadKnight: u need to make a fancy vector class
MadKnight: that supports doing + in the code
MadKnight: u know u can ctrlc ctruv stuff in between games ?
MadKnight: i did that for my own fancy vector class
JLukeSkywalker: how would i not know how to copy from one game to another
MadKnight: nono
MadKnight: i mean
MadKnight: did u consider that ?
JLukeSkywalker: anyway, I have pre-built things like vector/points/etc for most languages already on my pc
MadKnight: oh cool
JLukeSkywalker: i never code that kind of stuff
JLukeSkywalker: just paste from my database
MadKnight: do u know there's a plugin for the browser that just puts your code from a file ?
MadKnight: so that u can code in an offline IDE which is cooler
JLukeSkywalker: im used to coding without an ide
JLukeSkywalker: so on here is fine
MadKnight: but what about coding in multiple files ?
JLukeSkywalker: you can do that without an ide
MadKnight: but can u do that in CG ?
JLukeSkywalker: no
MadKnight: in here
MadKnight: soooo
MadKnight: u would like to be able to ?
JLukeSkywalker: but why would I write code for on here in multiple files offline
JLukeSkywalker: you have to condense it to one file for on here anyway
MadKnight: because u would wanna put Vector class in a separate file
MadKnight: and stuff
JLukeSkywalker: why
JLukeSkywalker: and you cant on here
MadKnight: oh okay keep ctrlc ctrlv'ing all the thing by your hand
MadKnight: up to u
JLukeSkywalker: its the same amount of work
MadKnight: separate files make it so that u have a separate lib with all the shared things like a vector
MadKnight: but at the same they're all included in one AI.cpp
MadKnight: u just do #include "allthestuff.cpp" and u don't even need to worry about it
MadKnight: it's just amazing
JLukeSkywalker: so you are saying, somehow, me copying from my database into the codingame file is somehow harder than copying into 8 different files on my computer and then uploading them
MadKnight: >but at the same they
at the same time*
MadKnight: JLukeSkywalker it's up to u if u wanna copy everything everywhere by hand
JLukeSkywalker: its faster and easier than copying it everywhere into 8 different files by hand, then having to upload it
JLukeSkywalker: how long have you been coding?
MadKnight: for so long that i don't wanna be copying stuff by hand anymore
MadKnight: and i don't wanna keep rewriting all the things for every single problem i need to solve
JLukeSkywalker: you realize that in some circumstances it is actually quicker and easier
MadKnight: i wanna make reusable things
MadKnight: i just wanna
JLukeSkywalker: I am fully aware how and when to use separate files, make libraries, etc
MadKnight: make things reusable
MadKnight: flexible
MadKnight: abstract
MadKnight: and stuff
JLukeSkywalker: yeah, and sometimes that is overkill, completely stupid, and takes longer
MadKnight: i just hate it when i need to remake something again and too specifically
MadKnight: so i made it automatic
MadKnight: ctrlc ctrlv stuff
MadKnight: plus
MadKnight: i made very universal functionms
MadKnight: that solve just everything
tjadli: hey everyone, is anyone having a weird behavior on this test "Shorter difference on the first 2 horses"
Saad-py: hi
