Jay3401: Hello
soutenu: hi!
ChampionCoder: Happy new year, guys!
rusty_developer: hi my friends
rusty_developer: i am trying to learn a rust
jacek: :scream:
jacek: good morning
eulerscheZahl: moin
jrke: happy new decade everyone
eulerscheZahl: didn't the decade start last year?
jrke: nope this year i think
eulerscheZahl: mine goes from 2020 to 2029. like every good programmer I always start counting at 0
pipebits: True
VizGhar: Which decade this year belongs to: 302x? When new millenia started? 2001 or 2000? :)
NguyenDinhDuong: 2000 :smiley:
eulerscheZahl: download is still working \o/
https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
jrke: euler did you got you hacktoberfest t-shirt?
eulerscheZahl: of course not. i don't participate in such events
jacek: flash? what year is it? 2020?
eulerscheZahl: i've downloaded the player and some old flash games just to be sure they are still working
jacek: i think i got this 2048 learning working \o/
eulerscheZahl: nice
eulerscheZahl: what's the highest tile you can reach?
jacek: dunno yet, right now im looking at total score
jacek: but with bruteforce and snake i can get around 600k
jacek: is there 131k there?
eulerscheZahl: yes, but not reachable for all testcases
jacek: so 18 states per tile :/
saikoaizen: 77889977445555662233115547885544552266855
saikoaizen: find the number that occurs odd number of times
jacek: odd question
saikoaizen: (*dumb question)
saikoaizen: lmao, don't count. write a program
eulerscheZahl: find the "number"
do you mean digit? or any substring?
Angecide: hi how does others output their text on their profile when watching replays?
eulerscheZahl: while game?
eulerscheZahl: usually: command message
eulerscheZahl: just with a space between
jacek: what game? some games dont support that
Angecide: some have funny emojis depending on if they are winning or losing
Angecide: I guess depending on what their mcts is evalutating
jacek: UTTT?
Angecide: ye
Angecide: but i have seen this on other games as well
eulerscheZahl: you can even see how they print it: just fight them in the IDE and you see their output
jacek: you can print the emoji, its just unicode char
Angecide: are they doing std::cerr?
eulerscheZahl: stdout
y x message
eulerscheZahl: 7 3 i'm winning
Angecide: ohhh
Angecide: I thought std::cout was reserved for legal moves only
eulerscheZahl: was about to say something like "reading is overrated" but the game doesn't even tell about that feature in the statement :D
Angecide: oh yep, it's definitely working
Angecide: ye, I searched everywhere
eulerscheZahl: at some point it's just experience as most games on CG work like that
Angecide: I see
jacek: see? nobody reads statements
eulerscheZahl: it takes some time to write those :(
eulerscheZahl: except for the CG sponsored game
Illedan: Good morning. Happy new year :)
[Tony-Stark]: happy new year
MSmits: happy newyear
jacek: newy ear?
ZarthaxX: happy new year :D
ChampionCoder: Happy new year, guys!
MSmits: doubt many people gained a new ear, maybe some lost one last night though
MSmits: we had a ban on fireworks this year because of covid, but not many people gave a :poop:
MSmits: still seemed like a warzone
MSmits: there were 30% less incidents this year. That's all the ban did. Emergency workers still had to sew on fingers and whatnot
MSmits: one of the few things i hate about my country... fireworks
MSmits: /end rant
tutubalin: fireworks spread viruses
MSmits: doubt that, but they put more pressure on hospitals that are already at the breaking point
MSmits: 1 million delayed surgeries and such
MSmits: because people are idiots
MSmits: not many people talk about that. It's fine and all to keep showing the deathcount of covid, but they dont talk much about people needing surgery and not being able to get it
karliso: MSmits Do you have hangover?
MSmits: lol
MSmits: no i don't drink karliso
MSmits: happy newyear :)
karliso: Thank you! :)
ChampionCoder: Lol no crackers in my country
ChampionCoder: Nobody burst them since Diwali
eulerscheZahl: one of the few things i hate about my country... fireworks
i share that hate
Astrobytes: +1 from me
Astrobytes: and happy new year everyone
zhoubou: Happy new year :)
eulerscheZahl: always some who want to cause noise during the night. even during lockdown when you have to be at home at 9pm. but much more quiet than the years before
eulerscheZahl: my cat loved it
MSmits: my dog was a bit better this year also
zhoubou: ^ Same
zhoubou: He usually barks quite a lot. This time he didn't bark at all.
Astrobytes: Yeah, at least our pets had a good time this year :D
eulerscheZahl: also me working from home is great from her point of view
Astrobytes: Indeed. I spend most days with one on my shoulder and one in my lap.
jacek: 24/7 can opener
eulerscheZahl: and living pillow
Astrobytes: Yeah! In winter it's like having 2 live teddy bears. Vicious teddy bears.
Astrobytes: Always wanting to sleep on or right next to you
eulerscheZahl: or on my chair
eulerscheZahl: so i sit on the trash can
Astrobytes: Yes, when you want to sit on it. Hahaha
Astrobytes: The sacrifices we make
Kitkat260: gm
jacek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3YT7ksgGJk
TBali: HNY!
So ,Astrobytes, you have 2 cats and only one of it is your profile pic? Doesn't that make the other one envy?
TBali: :)
sHlOk: Any hacker out here?
Stilgart: ask AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: what do you mean by the contest ?
TBali: Who asks? FBI?
eulerscheZahl: no hackers. deleted one from the forum 1h ago
Astrobytes: TBali: Yes, that's the case. For years I used the other cat as a profile pic, switched it around a while ago. Hopefully she doesn't mind too much ;)
eulerscheZahl: "how to hack latest game", links to a website for buying a dish washer
sHlOk: I am an Ethical Hacker. So wanted to know if there are som here
jacek: oO
Stilgart: not sure if AutomatonNN is ethical
eulerscheZahl: there's a guitar as well: https://static.codingame.com/servlet/fileservlet?id=23052489191875
AutomatonNN: hey guys hey guys, could you be honest, and that makes sense to me in a linux and contests and the b
Stilgart: and a cormen
eulerscheZahl: and something with "alco" on the folder. studying for the barkeeper exam?
TBali: and the CLRS book... how approriate profile pic :-)
sHlOk: Any OSCP here?
eulerscheZahl: oh, it says "algorithms", a bit hard to read with that low resolution :D
zhoubou: Lol
Astrobytes: It seldom leaves my desk. Along with Stroustrup and a few others
TBali: I have the same edition. The leaf end reveals it
TBali: Started to read it last March, still 140 pages to go... :-)
Astrobytes: It's not a quick read :D
eulerscheZahl: and then you have to start again and see how much you've forgotton
Astrobytes: I'm fairly certain I look something up in the introduction everytime I look up an algo lol
TBali: Well for few 100 pages I was slow because I coded all pseudoalgorithms encountered. Then I gave that up, but was still slow following the proofs.
TBali: In the end I sometimes see myself just skim-reading the proof
TBali: Would not be enough to pass an exam with A if I were on a CS class
Astrobytes: Following the proof isn't 100% necessary if you just want to know about the algo, but it can be useful
TBali: The important is not the proof but to understand how and why it works
TBali: For that I found the Princeton video courses on Coursera exteremely good
TBali: Less mathematically rigurous but still going deep
TBali: Had to do the 10 assignments in Java made me learn it a bit more as well
Astrobytes: I did a few courses irl some time ago, I admit I could probably do with a refresher
TBali: Princeton topics highly overlapping with the CLRS book, of course
eulerscheZahl: Java? now you are ready for the codingame SDK
Astrobytes: some time ago: 2007
Astrobytes: I also did a java course. Hated every minute of it.
proogrmr: :no_mouth:
TBali: SDK: LOL - I would need a great game idea first
eulerscheZahl: surprise us :)
Astrobytes: The exam involved handwriting a fair bit of Java. My hand was aching after.
TBali: You can practice with cOc GOLF :-)
struct: just port amazons
TBali: Possibly the longest codes ever
TBali: But maybe C# is even longer
Stilgart: eulerscheZahl: are you telling that the SDK is in Java ? :p
TBali: Is it?
Stilgart: wasn't it bad written C++ ?
eulerscheZahl: C# has more syntactic sugar to write short code than Java does
eulerscheZahl: working on "Focus" yet struct?
struct: no, im still doing stc
Astrobytes: Amazons will be ready in 2022
eulerscheZahl: when someone else, completely new to the CG community and not knowing about struct's plans, decides to just do it
Astrobytes: :D
TBali: Okay I admit being noob. What is Amazons?
eulerscheZahl: board game
eulerscheZahl: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/789/focus
i put this one up for discussion
eulerscheZahl: you have towers of stones. and go as many fields as the tower is high. building new, higher towers in that process
eulerscheZahl: first unable to move loses
eulerscheZahl: if the tower exceeds a height of 5, stones from the bottom are removed.
eulerscheZahl: moving player gets the stones back for later spawns
eulerscheZahl: opponent tiles are out of game
TBali: looks interesting.... and suitable for a multi
eulerscheZahl: and 3D :P
TBali: 1981 Spiel des Jahres Winner
Astrobytes: Yes, that looks interesting
Astrobytes: Have you played it?
eulerscheZahl: no. but my dad has it in the basement
Astrobytes: Well, you know what to do
eulerscheZahl: a stream? :D
Astrobytes: lol
Westicles: somebody do a Nuggets Numbers stream
MSmits: wondev woman is also 3D
eulerscheZahl: and i'm surprised you aren't addicted to it yet
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: i guess i will be
MSmits: at some point
MSmits: it has crazy branching though
jacek: and fow :unamused:
MSmits: that is supposedly not much of a problem
MSmits: as you can just calculate the most likely position of the opponent and do the search based on that assumption
MSmits: thats what the pm's tell me anyway
Kitkat260: hi guys
MSmits: hi
Kitkat260: is there any teens here
Kitkat260: nvm
MSmits: I am a Fteen next month
MSmits: it's like a tween, but with forty
Kitkat260: are u a teacher
MSmits: yea
jacek: what gave it away?
Kitkat260: your proflie
jacek: :spy:
Westicles: Haha... and we rule the world
MSmits: jacek, you use simd sometimes right?
MSmits: does this function annoy the hell out of you too: https://software.intel.com/sites/landingpage/IntrinsicsGuide/#expand=2431,4963,2431,4963,4912,4912&cats=Set&text=_mm256_set_epi64x
MSmits: it's just... wrong
MSmits: I get bugs because of this and I say the bug is on intel's side
struct: what bug do you get?
MSmits: the e indices are reversed
MSmits: why would anyone do the largest index first
MSmits: makes no sense
jacek: i dont use simd or avx directly
struct: __m256i _mm256_setr_epi64x
jacek: never used _mm stuff
struct: setr
struct: should do the job right?=
MSmits: so the reversed version is actually the normal version?
struct: yes
struct: and no
MSmits: thats still lame :P
struct: reversed shows the correct order
MSmits: but thanks
MSmits: i will use that now
MSmits: jacek do you rely on autovectorization?
MSmits: not sure how well it works
jacek: i just hope it works
MSmits: well i guess it doesnt matter that much as it is not your bottleneck anyway
jacek: if not, then there's probably some 2x-3x speedup left for my bots
MSmits: it's evaluating the networks
MSmits: doubt it
jacek: the eval takes most time for me
MSmits: yeah so its not going to be 2x 3x
MSmits: unless you could use the avx stuff in eval
MSmits: and you arent
MSmits: i was more talking about the sim part
jacek: oh
MSmits: thats where i use it, when i can
jacek: if autovectorization doesnt work in my eval, then it would huge speedup
MSmits: might be good to test it, you can do that with godbolt and such cant you?
jacek: ever since i have my eval quite heavy, i dont care much about sim speed, aside its bitboarded
MSmits: makes sense
jacek: perhaps. i never really heavily analyzed the code and instructions
MSmits: i dont usually either, but thats because i dont rely on the compiler that much
MSmits: i micromanage too much :P
MSmits: I think i have a bot somewhere that uses goto
MSmits: so i improved since then
jacek: goto oO
MSmits: i think it was a fast way to get out of a nested loop
ZarthaxX: MSmits why did you say that instruction saved in reverse order?
ZarthaxX: pseudo code seems fine
struct: setr(0,1,2,3) = [0,1,2,3]
struct: set(0,1,2,3) = [3,2,1,0]
struct: but pseudo code is fine you are right
ZarthaxX: pseudo says e0 would be at lowest part
ZarthaxX: that thing u put there would be array in memory or what
struct: you can load an array
struct: load or loadu for unaligned
MSmits: ZarthaxX the code runs fine
MSmits: the fact is, you put the e3 part in the leftmost part of the function call
MSmits: so you're thinking you do set(0,1,2,3)
MSmits: but you actually do set (3,2,1,0)
struct: also msmits cant you load it as an array?
MSmits: these are constants basically
struct: set is a sequence as it says on intel site
struct: ah ok
MSmits: always the same, so i load them once
struct: ok then its fine
MSmits: just 256 bit masks
struct: this is for what?
MSmits: connect4 :)
MSmits: I'm avxing the sim
MSmits: horizontal, verical and diagonals all at once
struct: this library is good
jacek: :scream:
struct: https://github.com/vectorclass/version2
MSmits: seems i already had that favorited
jacek: plot twist: smits made it
MSmits: lol no
Kitkat260: what happened
MSmits: 2021
Kitkat260: ik
Kitkat260: where is jacek
ZarthaxX: MSmits still dont get your confusion
ZarthaxX: e3 in leftmost part for you would mean it should be highest number or lowest
ZarthaxX: maybe you dont know how a simd register looks like
MSmits: well it's like this
MSmits: in my mind the 256 divided into 64 bit parts works like this
Kitkat260: ummmm
MSmits: if i load it like this Set(0,1,2,3)
MSmits: the 0 comes in the low part, the 1 comes in the 2nd 64 bit part etc.
MSmits: but thats not what happens
ZarthaxX: ah
Kitkat260: how many girls r here
ZarthaxX: well register it just bits so the order is 3 2 1 0
ZarthaxX: that's why thee convention
MSmits: yeah, it's confusing
ZarthaxX: of the call
ZarthaxX: doesnt seem wrong
MSmits: i'm sure there is a good reason for it, but when i am using it, in the context of the rest of my code, it seems wrong
Astrobytes: fix it
MSmits: i did
MSmits: i added an R
MSmits: setr
Astrobytes: ezpz
MSmits: then used a #define
MSmits: so i dont see the r :P
Astrobytes: lmao
ZarthaxX: aight :P
ZarthaxX: connect4 eval withbitboard had shift in different ways
ZarthaxX: idk if you can do smth with avx
MSmits: already did, works fine
ZarthaxX: okey
ZarthaxX: why are you doing this btw
MSmits: why wouldnt it work?
MSmits: there's a connect4 contribution that will soon be approved i think
MSmits: 9x7
ZarthaxX: i dont remember if u had to do shift in different dirs
ZarthaxX: ah okey
MSmits: you do
MSmits: left right
MSmits: up down
MSmits: and diagonals
ZarthaxX: well that'sa what i meanty
ZarthaxX: cant do it all at once
MSmits: there's 2 sets
MSmits: you combine left with up, down with rigth etc.
ZarthaxX: aight
ZarthaxX: gud
MSmits: earlier I thought the creator was messing around with the contribution because i kept getting errors with input
MSmits: after a while I figured out i was pasting my bot into the Dots and boxes IDE
Astrobytes: ffs :rofl:
struct: lol
MSmits: not the first time this happened
struct: What happens if he increases the board size?
Astrobytes: it gets bigger
MSmits: if he increases it further, my avx thingy is screwed
Astrobytes: :P
MSmits: it's neatly 63 bit now
struct: I dont know how its possible, but Im atm reading some code
MSmits: 9x7 apparently isnt solved so shouldbe ok
struct: for AVX on puyo puyo
struct: and its 12*6
struct: so 72 bits
MSmits: i'm sure it's possible, it just would be very inefficient
MSmits: might still be faster than without it
MSmits: you would have to split the process in two halves
struct: First I need to understand the bitboard part
MSmits: there's many ways to do it
MSmits: mmh is there a faster way to get the highest set bit than this:
MSmits: int index = __builtin_clzl(col);
index = 63 - index;
MSmits: i'm counting leading zeroes
struct: https://github.com/puyoai/puyoai/tree/master/src/core
MSmits: dont remember if you could get the highest set bit with a single instruction
struct: its so much code
MSmits: yeah]
jacek: ctzl?
MSmits: thats liwest set bit
MSmits: lowest
MSmits: for some reason i made my connect4 bitboard to have the lowest part of the bitboard at the high bits
MSmits: because it's input in that order i guess
MSmits: maybe i should change that
MSmits: wow i literally just reversed an iterator in the input reading part and the bot still works, now i can use ctz instead
struct: I thought there wasnt modulo operator for m256i but there is
struct: but its a sequence
struct: so should not matter much
struct: https://software.intel.com/sites/landingpage/IntrinsicsGuide/#text=_mm256_irem_epi32&expand=3205
struct: its for 32bits though
MSmits: yay i am on the leaderboard. Just random moves and it takes the win when it can
jacek: i will suggest bigger board :imp:
MSmits: meanie
jacek: bigger than 256
darkhorse64: I have a mcts for C4 with solver. I even wrote an AVX2 win detection but it does not go faster than the x64 code. On my PC, it's nearly a 2x, 3M -> 5.5M rollouts/s
MSmits: nice one
MSmits: thats odd, why wouldnt avx2 be faster?
MSmits: also did you detect wins, or winning moves?
MSmits: it's different
MSmits: my function returns all moves that are winning
darkhorse64: I suggested an octagon based C4 to make sure it is not solved. It would have taken more than 64 bits. 9x7 is solved as a win for White but good luck to find it in 100 ms. A book will probably help. I am curious how trictrac MM will perform. I detect wins. Next step is detecting winning positions for smarter rollouts
MSmits: 9x7 is solved?
darkhorse64: sec
MSmits: i thought 6x7 was
darkhorse64: https://tromp.github.io/c4/c4.html
Kitkat260: hey
jacek: 9x7 its not far from 7x6
Kitkat260: yep
Kitkat260: it is
darkhorse64: 42 moves against 63, the search space is much larger
MSmits: it's like D&B, 1 size large is like a factor of 30 or something in computation time
Kitkat260: :sunglasses:
MSmits: so that site says 7x9 is just barely out of range?
jai_m: hey guys i have made project on face recognition, i would like you to check it out once it will help me to make it more better! please wait at the face-part as it will take time to load link: http://smile-pay.herokuapp.com/
Kitkat260: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
MSmits: he will steal your face!!!
MSmits: :P
darkhorse64: re avx2 I have no explanation. I checked my code under windows, this is where my performance figures go from. On CG servers, I see no difference at all. I don't know why. I am doing the four in a row in all directions at the same time and I have no ifs. It should get better
MSmits: hmm might be it autovectorizes
MSmits: that would mean it does help, but you dont have to code it yourself
Kitkat260: umm what r talking about
MSmits: parallel calculation for bitboards in simulating boardgames
darkhorse64: my bad: I misread the table. It is not solved. If it autovectorizes, it's a very smart compiler
jacek: well MSmits has just got new title for his thesis
jai_m: no MSmits im a college student, its okay if you dont want to put your face lol. but yeah it just a project
struct: __attribute__((optimize("no-tree-vectorize"))) to disable auto vectorization
Kitkat260: is there teens here
jai_m: if you want i can send the link on github soo you can show that as your project in your college lol
jacek: it wants my bank id o.O
jacek: darn, where was my credit card...
darkhorse64: If I want to enable it again (to limit the scope on one function) ?
Kitkat260: hi..
struct: __attribute__((optimize("no-tree-vectorize")))
void function() {
}
struct: should only affect that function
darkhorse64: OK
MSmits: I hope 7x9 is a draw
MSmits: makes games more balanced
MSmits: or it could anyway, no guarantee
MSmits: some games are solved as a draw and still heavily advantaged for one side
jai_m: all the details are fake enter every fake details
MSmits: for example TTT
jai_m: its just a dummy project
darkhorse64: fierce battle ahead
Kitkat260: sup guys
MSmits: btw darkhorse64, if I continue to work on yavalath book i might push you to 2. I keep running into losses vs you when i submit
MSmits: you have the best late game bot I think
MSmits: and i can't book the lategame. I win most games, but when you navigate all the traps like my bot does, it's a tossup
jacek: in other words it has no problems with premature finishing
MSmits: :P
darkhorse64: you're welcome. Not sure why: heavy rollouts maybe
MSmits: it's a feature of mcts i think
MSmits: you playout the game till the end
MSmits: which means you also detect when there's unfavorable placement that leads you without enough safe spots in the lategame
MSmits: it's not that easy to do this in a minimax
jacek: ad you pushed pony again
MSmits: i did ?
jacek: hes above me
MSmits: probably i just didnt fight it in my last submits
MSmits: so i didnt push it, i dragged others down
MSmits: I submit every once in a while, get 3 or 4 losses out of the submit and then check my meta mcts to see if there's anything interesting
MSmits: usually the losses are trictrac, dafish or darkhorse
Kitkat260: /me
jacek: you dont automate those submits?
jacek: go more meta
MSmits: nah, i do this stuff by hand :)
MSmits: i mean the meta also runs automatically, but it has a manual component
MSmits: i just enter in the moves manually, see where it takes me
MSmits: i guess euler would have already written a python script that downloaded all the moves and then reads them in from the meta mcts
MSmits: i did not go quite that far
MSmits: that heroku app of his does this sort of thing
Kitkat260: how do you code so well
MSmits: practice
Kitkat260: ok...
MSmits: not kidding, that's literally how
MSmits: just do a lot
Kitkat260: oh ok
Kitkat260: has any body seen proogmr
Kitkat260: nmv
darkhorse64: Great, 5th again at Y but definitely losing too many short games
MSmits: thats how it is for mcts bots
MSmits: traps are hard
Kitkat260: don't worry your not alone
Kitkat260: i am having trouble too
MSmits: darkhorse64 look at my recent battles
MSmits: and you'll see what I'm talking about
Kitkat260: gtg
darkhorse64: You mean losing in the endgame ? I could predict the on
MSmits: i mean the only losses i have are vs you :P
darkhorse64: result 11 moves before
darkhorse64: You one loss in 18 moves. Hole in the book ?
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: fixed that
MSmits: well
MSmits: maybe :)
MSmits: the 2 2 start is a bit difficult somehow
MSmits: maybe because my meta mcts simulated over 2 million games with 3 2 start and only 500k with 2 2
MSmits: because everyone else seems to use 3 2
MSmits: well except dafish and tric trac
darkhorse64: Games with supson are very short too
MSmits: yeah i didnt really target him with any book
darkhorse64: Looking at my book ...
MSmits: i guess he just uses the same moves as others
MSmits: there's a lot of overlap between bots
darkhorse64: I mean my games
MSmits: oh ok
MSmits: hm yeah it's so hard to get a bot to never lose in first 14 plies or so if you're not using a book
MSmits: branching is insane
MSmits: 60 X 59 x 58 etc.
darkhorse64: My book is start with any hex within the second ring and steal the inner hexes
MSmits: steal the inner hexes is pretty much the only steal that's certain to be good
MSmits: being first has a huge disadvantage in that you need 1 more safespot for your hexes
MSmits: or you lose to 3 in a row for lategame
MSmits: so I have no idea if it's worth stealing the others
MSmits: I steal 1 0, 2 1, 2 2 and the center ones
MSmits: dont steal 0 0, 2 0, 1 1 and 3 2
MSmits: these just have a < 50% winrate for me, but that does not necessarily prove anything
jai_m: http://smile-pay.herokuapp.com/ give a look to this project i have made it enter all details dummy.
darkhorse64: With EPT, I could bias my search towards triangles. My bot avoids these too much. Steal 1 0 ? Are you using the game coordinates ?
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: game coord
MSmits: so the one next to the corner on the edge
MSmits: dafish and trictrac open with it
MSmits: sometimes
MSmits: seen jacek's pony do it too, lately I think
jacek: i have the same opening as main
MSmits: oh ok
jacek: 1st move*, not book
MSmits: so it's 1 0 and 3 2?
MSmits: or maybe just random and i am seeing only losses with those as starting moves
MSmits: biased on my end
darkhorse64: Intuitively, starting on the border looks odd
MSmits: yeah i know
MSmits: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/64413398-0622-46ee-abd4-8bc080eab5f0
derjack: 1, 3, 59, 57, 13, 14, 15, 46, 14, 46, 45, 47, 46, 14 those are my starts
darkhorse64: because you have less offensive moves at your disposal
Astrobytes: jai_m: stop posting your link please
MSmits: 1 and 3 are 1 0 start
MSmits: 59 and 57 also
MSmits: so yeah, good deal, it seems a balanced start
MSmits: my meta is probably lopsided from counterbooking other players that start with it and i steal it
jacek: actually i stole that from you
jacek: good to have someone do the dirty job
MSmits: haha yes
MSmits: this is why i dont say "BOOK" when i play a book move, otherwise you could just steal the entire book
MSmits: there arent that many moves to steal really
Jrabovsky: array.pop() in python removes the first element right?
zhoubou: The last element
zhoubou: If you want to pop the first one, use array.pop(0)
zhoubou: That is array.pop(index)
Jrabovsky: I did that
Jrabovsky: but it still returned the last element
Jrabovsky: Ive been having issues with the IDE recently
zhoubou: There has to be a problem with your code somewhere then
zhoubou: What specific issues are you having?
Jrabovsky: Recently ive been trying to perform operations that worked a week ago without the same result
Jrabovsky: Just then would be an example of one where a.pop(0) gave me the wrong value
zhoubou: Maybe a[0] is not what you expect it to be
Jrabovsky: I printed the array before to check
Jrabovsky: the order was 3,1,2 and a.pop(0) returned 2
Westicles: thibaud is streaming
zhoubou: How does one use CodinGame's pastebin?
jrke: just paste your text it will automatically convert to pastebin if the content is big
zhoubou: Oh, thanks.
zhoubou: Jrabovsky check your code thoroughly, there has to be something you're missing. Perhaps you can share a snippet where it occurs, and surrounding code, so I can have a look?
Jrabovsky: Alright. I wont be able to get the same test conditions as last time but Ill send something over next time it happens. Thanks so much
jrke: is there any way to compress a string to a letter?
zhoubou: Compress in what way? What is your goal?
jrke: like encoding a string into a single letter
jacek: ?
Astrobytes: that makes no sense whatsoever
Westicles: I once fit the entire Holy Bible into the letter A
Astrobytes: :smirk:
jacek: char x = "x"[0]?
jrke: i think i need rest my mind is exhausted atm due to complexity of D&B
MSmits: there are for sure easier games on cg
MSmits: enjoying connect4 atm
MSmits: join us
eulerscheZahl: Thibaud is live again
jrke: i will join tommorow MS
MSmits: cool
Astrobytes: hm, not in a stream-y mood today
Astrobytes: puzzles again?
eulerscheZahl: yes
Astrobytes: tell him he should do multis instead :P
Westicles: he seems like a really nice guy
jrke: so Transpotiton tables are also usefull in connect4 i think
eulerscheZahl: tell him yourself astro
Astrobytes: I lack the motivation right now
Zenoscave: I see recrse added chess
struct: jacek http://blog.gamesolver.org/solving-connect-four/07-transposition-table/
Astrobytes: not just any old chess either
Astrobytes: also pew pew
jacek: struct?
struct: oh sorry jrke
struct: wrong ping
jrke: :smiley:
jrke: btw thats cool
Zenoscave: pewpew astro
MSmits: I;m going mcts, but thats a nice link indeed
jrke: gn
karimk123: hello everyone
jacek: good evening
karimk123: its night time for me but ill take it'
karimk123: i got a new wpm today
MSmits: weaponized personal message?
Astrobytes: wombat petting machine?
MSmits: ah ofc
Zenoscave: word per microsecond
Westicles: wife praise m...d
karimk123: ah yes funally 100 words per microseconds
Astrobytes: whoopass production method
zhoubou: Why am I not getting notifications for achievements anymore?
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/we91hf
eulerscheZahl: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
MSmits: which contribution eulerscheZahl?
eulerscheZahl: 3D one
MSmits: oh
eulerscheZahl: my only pending atm
MSmits: whats the reason?
eulerscheZahl: Hey CodinGamer! Your contribution has unfortunately not been moderated on time and will temporarily be removed from the system... But no worries! You can republish it anytime to give it another chance! :)
Westicles: i tried to get a mob together to approve last year, but they lacked vision
eulerscheZahl: i want a proper review anyways
eulerscheZahl: and now i'm pulling a JBM: camping on the contrib page
MSmits: ye, dont use blind people Westicles
Westicles: MSmits channeling jacek today?
AnonymousUser: 0.00000133333 words per Microsecond : v
MSmits: yes :)
MSmits: eeeyup
jacek: oO
Astrobytes: :rofl:
jacek: its ee, fix your ponyism
MSmits: eeyup
eulerscheZahl: ohai
eulerscheZahl: happy Caturday's eve
Astrobytes: oO
zhoubou: AutomatonNN what is love
AutomatonNN: wow, that's what i was solving anymore :(
zhoubou: Did I remember correctly? :P
Astrobytes: AutomatonNN baby don't hurt me
AutomatonNN: ZarthaxX you work in a contest to see the code in between
eulerscheZahl: finally
eulerscheZahl: it's happening!
Astrobytes: He pings a few others too
eulerscheZahl: take that offline ZarthaxX
jacek: AutomatonNN where is your database
AutomatonNN: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/11745302-5e74-4cc1-98db-22adbbb7969d
eulerscheZahl: was to be expected
Astrobytes: hahaha
jacek: AutomatonNN invalid paste id
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see the code in the chat ?
Astrobytes: it did that in fr the other day
jacek: :tada:
zhoubou: Omg
Astrobytes: :D
eulerscheZahl: can i kick again?
eulerscheZahl: was a nice day without automaton
Astrobytes: I won't tell
Astrobytes: Feel free
eulerscheZahl: meh, I won't stay for long anyways
Astrobytes: don't tell me your shaving another hour off your bedtime this year
eulerscheZahl: no, you'll have to deal with me for 1 more hour or 1.5 maybe
Astrobytes: :)
Westicles: what's the etiquette on changing the difficulty of an existing puzzle?
Astrobytes: Can you do it?
Astrobytes: As in, is it possible I mean
Westicles: Seems like you can
Astrobytes: This is for the nuggets thing right
Westicles: yeah. I wouldn't do it myself due to... people disliking everything I do... but someone else could
eulerscheZahl: nugget numbers?
Astrobytes: yeah
eulerscheZahl: could be interesting with larger limits, would require some maths. with given constraints it's easy to bruteforce
eulerscheZahl: (didn't try, just my feeling)
Astrobytes: I only had a quick look after Westicles comment on the forum
Astrobytes: It doesn't seem to fit the 'hard' category as it is
Westicles: that would be a fun stream. fixing the difficulty on a bunch of puzzles
eulerscheZahl: as a creator of hard puzzles I feel insulted by this categorization
Astrobytes: Hah! A fair few of them got a bit mixed up when they mixed the official puzzles with the community
eulerscheZahl: the auto assignment of difficulties
Astrobytes: what was it based on? Number of solvers?
JBM: there wouldn't be so much camping if you just solved freecell eulerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: there's an "impossible" testcase
eulerscheZahl: did you disable autoplay yet?
Astrobytes: damn, I forgot about that one as well. So many bloody contributions
eulerscheZahl: the binary tree is gone already :(
eulerscheZahl: hope it will return
Astrobytes: The solo game?
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/43687cd854d10e38c3716e6d08efe735b42f
JBM: pretty sure it will
eulerscheZahl: mouton is here for some years, so chances are good
Stilgart: eulerscheZahl: I am not a big fan of this one
Stilgart: he has better puzzles to publish
eulerscheZahl: i had fun solving it. i also remember the crossing lines one
eulerscheZahl: which is still on my TODO :(
eulerscheZahl: wrote some code but something is still wrong there
Stilgart: Astrobytes: dwarfie and I are sceptical about nuggets in hard
Stilgart: we spoke about it on #fr this afternoon
eulerscheZahl: we can argue about medium because of the -1 at best
Stilgart: is it that obvious that a naive while loop will be fast enough ?
Stilgart: proving it is not that easy imho (but it is not required to solve the puzzle)
eulerscheZahl: simple while loop gets you somewhere around 1e9
eulerscheZahl: an obvious upper limit for the array size is package size squared
eulerscheZahl: multiply by number of packages
Stilgart: 1e7 (not everyone uses C++)
eulerscheZahl: which makes it a bad selection on constraints even
eulerscheZahl: i think it could be interesting with higher constraints
Stilgart: not so obvious
eulerscheZahl: something with pairwise LCM i think
eulerscheZahl: didn't completely think it through
Westicles: Go ahead and change it to medium at least
eulerscheZahl: i see it as the task of creator/approvers to do so and only take action if they obviously don't care anymore
Westicles: well, it was djoums...
eulerscheZahl: another topic: where did the autoplay disable button on youtube go?
Stilgart: well, it was Westicles complaining in the forum...
eulerscheZahl: i hate that autoplay and now i can't figure out how to turn it off
Stilgart: wait wait wait...
Stilgart: please no
Stilgart: I still have one in the upper right
Stilgart: (you almost killed me there)
eulerscheZahl: player on the left, autoplay top right?
eulerscheZahl: not for me. maybe ctrl+F5?
eulerscheZahl: still missing :/
Stilgart: autoplay button on the right, still there after a ctrl+shift+R (firefow 84)
Stilgart: s/w/x/
Astrobytes: seems fine if you're logged in
Stilgart: seems that autoplay is enabled by default, though
Astrobytes: but disappears for me if I'm not
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/wea1p7
where should it be?
Stilgart: Astrobytes: no way I am logged in
eulerscheZahl: oh, i never log in on youtube :(
eulerscheZahl: they are collecting enough data without me helping them
Westicles: are you talking about autoplaying the next video? They moved it into the video itself.
Stilgart: juste below the sign in button
Stilgart: -e
Astrobytes: yeah I have a single gmail for youtube purposes
Westicles: over by full screen
Stilgart: I do not have a gmail account
eulerscheZahl: aaah, found it
eulerscheZahl: thanks Westicles
Astrobytes: Ah got it
eulerscheZahl: https://prnt.sc/wea2su
Astrobytes: Sorry, I was on a playlist
Stilgart: wow, what trickery is this ?!
Astrobytes: they are really messing with us
eulerscheZahl: we haven't redesigned the site for a while, let's confuse the users again
jacek: ux, apparently
eulerscheZahl: i still miss the star reviews
eulerscheZahl: (i admit it's easier to affect with stars than thumbs)
Astrobytes: ux these days tends more and more towards mobile with scant regard for users on computer
eulerscheZahl: as in: a 1 star on a highly rating video has more power. still I want the stars back
Stilgart: stars only last a few second, not worth it
Stilgart: </mario>
Astrobytes: :)
Westicles: i made the mistake of clicking on lithuanian girls pole vaulting. now that's all I get
Astrobytes: :no_mouth:
jai_m: im a college student i have made a project on face-recognition please have a look on it (note: enter all dummy details while signup) http://smile-pay.herokuapp.com/
MSmits: I thought of several things I could say to that Westicles, but then I remembered I am a teacher and this chat is public
MSmits: :P
eulerscheZahl: just do it, none of your students is here
Astrobytes: jai_m: if you continue posting that I will kick you from chat. That's the 3rd time in a couple of hours.
MSmits: I'll just wait for jacek to reply
eulerscheZahl: thanks Astrobytes, was considering such a reply too
Astrobytes: Rather annoying.
jacek: hmm? what reply
MSmits: to westicles
jai_m: okay im sorry
jai_m: i wont do that again :)
Astrobytes: jacek would be more interested in Lithuanian pony vaulting :P
Astrobytes: Thank you jai_m
jacek: yes, most my youtube related stuff are mlp, anime and neural nets
MSmits: lol Astrobytes
jacek: would you think google by now won't see the difference between ponies and multi-layer perceptrons?
Astrobytes: :D
reCurse: Ponies in 2021?
jacek: mods are asleep, postponies
Illedan: ETA on moving chess out of WIP reCurse?
Astrobytes: best new years wishes for you Illedan, reCurse
Illedan: You2
Illedan: Got any new years resolutions?
jacek: 1920x1200 as the last one
Astrobytes: lol
eulerscheZahl: not even 16:9
Illedan: :joy:
Astrobytes: Nah, I don't make them tbh
Astrobytes: When I want to make a change I go for it
reCurse: All the best to you as well Astrobytes
reCurse: And happy new year
eulerscheZahl: mine is not to wake up when neighbors go nuts
Illedan: Go nuts? As in fighting?
eulerscheZahl: fireworks
Astrobytes: Let me introduce the concept of: earplugs
struct: mine is to finish stc
reCurse: I think I'll publish chess soon enough and scrap crazyhouse
eulerscheZahl: you need 2 more accounts for that struct
Illedan: Define finish?
struct: finish my bot
reCurse: Don't think I'll do any more modifications though
Illedan: Why scrap crazyhouse?
Astrobytes: ^
reCurse: Definitely not popular
Illedan: But yeah, I kinda agree. Crazyhouse is hella confusing :P
eulerscheZahl: that's the whole point of it
Astrobytes: the clue is kinda in the name tbh
eulerscheZahl: so you have less research done already
struct: Release one and keep other in WIP
jacek: will there be a boss in chess?
reCurse: No
reCurse: I've moved on to another project and lost interest in chess for the time being
eulerscheZahl: you need one for puzzle of the week
jacek: ^
reCurse: ffs
eulerscheZahl: it will tripple your player count
Illedan: I can make you a boss for chess if you want?
reCurse: Why does it need a boss
Illedan: To have a funnier top league
eulerscheZahl: promotion = quest completion
eulerscheZahl: solve the puzzle
jacek: also it would filter out random and crashing bots
reCurse: I can't think of anything nice to say as a response, so I'll leave it at that
Westicles: I'm still looking for my second bronze
eulerscheZahl: and filter crashing player for higher league
jacek: boss could be just 2-ply material
reCurse: Can't even blob all the referee code because of the stupid 1 class java restriction, unless copy/pasting everything as inner class works somehow?
jacek: you can have multiple classes in java
eulerscheZahl: you can't create objects from a static context
eulerscheZahl: at least that's something I struggled with
jacek: you meant referee or bot?
eulerscheZahl: somehow it worked to create an object of the class containing the main function. and then objects of other types in the constructor
eulerscheZahl: just Java
reCurse: Well I would have blobbed the referee code into a bot file
reCurse: Then just do a 1-ply search with material evel
reCurse: *eval
eulerscheZahl: i don't remember the exact details. only that it totally confused me why it isn't working the way I want
reCurse: Yeah I feel the same way about java
reCurse: Intuitions are all wrong because arbitrary reasons
Astrobytes: I find the language fairly horrifying to be perfectly honest.
eulerscheZahl: too bad that android decided to build on java and not C#
reCurse: If only we could somehow fix the timeline and have microsoft start with .net core
eulerscheZahl: i guess they were a few years too early to see the benefits of C#
reCurse: Java would have died and the world be a better place
Illedan: ^
Astrobytes: But... then millions of devices wouldn't be running Java!!!!
Astrobytes: ...
eulerscheZahl: billions*
Astrobytes: eugh
Westicles: I have a grudge against Oracle. They retracted an internship offer when they figured out I wasn't a CS major
eulerscheZahl: i'm only mad at booking.com
Astrobytes: But you'd presumably demonstrated your capabilities otherwise Westicles?
Westicles: Yeah, the interview went fine
eulerscheZahl: what is your major in?
Westicles: EE
eulerscheZahl: and did you say it is in CS first?
Westicles: no
Astrobytes: Or did you have EE + CS
Astrobytes: But they only wanted CS major
eulerscheZahl: so, they invited you, interview and then: btw what are your qualifications?
reCurse: I'm more surprised they actually said a reason
eulerscheZahl: i had a (new retired) colleague who accidentally got the job
Westicles: Yeah, it was all kind of weird. They were just down the street so no big deal
eulerscheZahl: applied at another company in a foreign city. asked someone "how can I get to company CYZ"?
eulerscheZahl: "just follow those people, they all go there"
eulerscheZahl: walked into the wrong building, no interview scheduled. got the job :D
Illedan: lol
Astrobytes: lol really?
eulerscheZahl: yes, long ago when everyone desperately searched for qualified employees
Astrobytes: Epic.
eulerscheZahl: good old Walter. almost broke your hand every morning while greeting you :D
Astrobytes: Oh. I'm one of those people. I can't help it.
reCurse: Controlling competition, can't code as fast if the hand hurts
Astrobytes: I was brought up to always have a firm handshake as a mark of sincerity.
Astrobytes: lol reCurse
MSmits: hey, with player messages, the message is supposed to stay up during the opponents turn right?
MSmits: in connect 4, it turns off
jacek: make a comment in the contribution
MSmits: yeah doing that
eulerscheZahl: no one will get pinged as the creator doesn't exist anymore
MSmits: huh?
Astrobytes: not that connect4
eulerscheZahl: huh?
eulerscheZahl: and i was just wondering that connect4 has messages but no avatars
eulerscheZahl: which other connect4?
MSmits: https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/59458ca85b08f914f150d1ccf0350fe7b233
MSmits: it's 7x9
eulerscheZahl: i totally missed that
eulerscheZahl: too many clashes and some other things slip through
MSmits: definitely hard to spot things in that list
MSmits: it needs a multiplayer filter
eulerscheZahl: Astrobytes check discord, #general
eulerscheZahl: oh, gone already :D
eulerscheZahl: did you delete it?
Astrobytes: nope, what?
eulerscheZahl: the herokuapp student advertised there as well
Astrobytes: Oh I told him to put a link there to stop him posting here
Astrobytes: Is it a malicious project?
Astrobytes: I didn't actually click it
eulerscheZahl: i didn't check either
Astrobytes: He put it in #talk about anything
eulerscheZahl: oh, i muted that channel
reCurse: It's funny for the wrong reasons
reCurse: He spammed it in 3 channels, deleted it everywhere except taah
reCurse: Should have been in memes though
struct: lol
eulerscheZahl: he deleted or you deleted?
reCurse: I did
jai_m: it is not malicious guys come on
jai_m: you guys just dont value things
struct: Well advertising it everywhere
struct: is sketchy
Astrobytes: OK, just don't spam it in 3 channels at one time then
reCurse: I value things accordingly
jai_m: i just want reviews on it there are no ads on it just dont call it meme or anything like that
reCurse: Oh so it's actually serious
reCurse: I'll leave that to kinder souls then
jai_m: if you guys feel you only know the things and you all are advance in all these things then you will not give chances to other peoples
Astrobytes: Just one more thing: why is it called smile-pay, has a signup and login and is also about image recognition?
**Astrobytes removes Columbo coat
reCurse: Actually had to check if it was a flash app
jai_m: it is a face-recognition project where i have used face-api library and used node for backend and monogdb for database and html-css for front-end
jai_m: https://github.com/jai38/Smile-Pay see the github link and find any malicious thing on it
Astrobytes: OK, calm down. For testing purposes in the manner you require I would strongly suggest disabling the signup/login features.
jai_m: it has nothing to do with your actual details i already told enter dummy details if you are trying though
Astrobytes: I mean, which part do you want feedback on?
Astrobytes: If it's just the facial-recognition part then just test that part, not sure why you need external testing for that
jai_m: i have done many things not only the face part, like for login signup passwords are hashed and this is my first project where i connected to database
jai_m: coz it is complete module of an payment app
eulerscheZahl: yes, you told us to enter dummy data. but we are lazy and you have to motivate us. sign up? I have to make something up just to see if I care. *closes tab*
reCurse: You have a login form for a payment app served in https with stretched out images using Comic Sans
reCurse: How is that not a meme
Astrobytes: Well, if you want feedback on that part it looks terrible for starters.
reCurse: *http
eulerscheZahl: that's how my mind works when I have some other tabs open
jai_m: it is just a dummy project guys if you feel it as meme its okay let it be
Westicles: turn it into a carefully crafted contribution and we'll get right on it in 60-180 days
reCurse: That's as nice as it gets
Astrobytes: Having road-tested that thing a little bit up to some point in the neverending signup process, I would recommend throwing it in the trash. Quickly.
reCurse: Convert it to flash for meme points though, I'd give it 10/10
Astrobytes: hahaha
jai_m: alright, thanks for your views on it :)
eulerscheZahl: i gave up again on the mobile number. not even sure how it should be formed. is that different in other countries?
Astrobytes: Also, it seems to be India-specific, which makes it kind of hard for non-Indian users
Astrobytes: Remove the 0 or the +CC eulerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: meh, rage quit
eulerscheZahl: 123456 didn't work (probably too short)
Astrobytes: it tells you the required length
reCurse: Then definitely don't try this eulerscheZahl https://userinyerface.com/
eulerscheZahl: inyerface?
reCurse: It's actually genius
reCurse: I love it
Astrobytes: hahaha
Astrobytes: that's HCI/UX hell right there
Astrobytes: "in your face" eulerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: had to look at the source code to get to the next level
eulerscheZahl: yes, got that Astrobytes :D
reCurse: That's cheating
Astrobytes: It's unbelievably realistic.
eulerscheZahl: that slow scrolling of the help box when you send it :D
Astrobytes: and the unstoppable timer
eulerscheZahl: with a popup every minute
eulerscheZahl: i like parodies
Astrobytes: I have genuinely come across sites like this
eulerscheZahl: like https://geektyper.com/
jacek: https://theuselessweb.com/
jacek: it redirected to CG
jai_m: thanks astrobytes and eulerschezahl for your time and sorry to make you wait soo long i will work on it in future
eulerscheZahl: https://hooooooooo.com/
what a nonsense jacek
eulerscheZahl: and the mandatory epilepsy warning for this link :rofl:
http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/
Astrobytes: http://www.sometimesredsometimesblue.com/
eulerscheZahl: now i'm on a website with a horse in ascii art. and the legs just keep going when i scroll down. funny link collection
Astrobytes: Oh, and:
http://cachemonet.com/
eulerscheZahl: https://d33wubrfki0l68.cloudfront.net/js/3682f7d78160ea8552ff7d63a3ed629f48fc1576/js/uselessweb.js
the list isn't even that long :(
Astrobytes: there are many more than that
jacek: https://www.codingame.com/
eulerscheZahl: it moved me to another page with more links now
https://weirdorconfusing.com/
Astrobytes: Well. It gave me this:
https://www.ebay.com/i/193213712423
reCurse: That's enough internet for today
Astrobytes: Seriously.
eulerscheZahl: yes, why are you posting that when i want to go to bed?
eulerscheZahl: but i'm stuck under the cat anyways
Astrobytes: I'm killing both of mine mentally as they're causing mayhem and destruction.
MSmits: beat your bot darkhorse64. I get around 2M sims in first turn (9 sims for each rollout)
darkhorse64: 3.2 M for me
MSmits: lower than yours, but might be the sim is heavier, or i should just optimize more
MSmits: takes multiple submits to pull you down now lol
MSmits: so few games
darkhorse64: heavy rollouts (play wins, avoid losses) ?
MSmits: i dont even play wins
MSmits: my sims only draw or lose
MSmits: if you cant play a move that is not losing, you lose
MSmits: basically, i calculate winning moves for the opponent. If there are more than 1, you lose
MSmits: if you cant block it without giving him a winning move, you also lose
MSmits: it's similar to the way beginners play connect4. Just avoid giving the opponent a win
Astrobytes: connect4?
MSmits: yeah
Astrobytes: Oh I see your last statement
MSmits: it solves really early, this game
MSmits: 20 plies before the end with a mcts solver
MSmits: makes sense, with so many columns becoming disallowed
Astrobytes: board size increase needed? Or octagonal as darkhorse64 suggested?
MSmits: not needed imho.
MSmits: othello solves around 18 before the end
Astrobytes: cool beans
MSmits: well ofc opening books will wreck this game, but that was a given
darkhorse64: Now that I have a serious bot to play with, I see this early solve too
MSmits: cool
MSmits: the message turning off is annoying, hope he fixs it
darkhorse64: post a request, the author is responsive and very pleased to get feedback
MSmits: I did
MSmits: like you, i wonder how minimax bots will do against ours
MSmits: not that easy to eval this i think?
MSmits: I'm guessing you count possible 4 ina rows or something
darkhorse64: The C4 solver does something like that to order the moves
MSmits: ah ok
darkhorse64: It takes several seconds to find the win with 6x7. Hope it will be enough to confuse MM bots
darkhorse64: You wrecked me. I have been #1 just one day
MSmits: plenty of time to think of improvements
MSmits: the key is heavier rollouts as you said
MSmits: no reason to give away wins during a sim
MSmits: it's like yavalath
darkhorse64: One third of my Y bot is for the rollouts
MSmits: you mean the lines of code?
darkhorse64: yes
MSmits: that makes sense
MSmits: I have a lot of lines for generating all the lookup tables
MSmits: but the sim has a lot too
darkhorse64: lot of ugly lines
MSmits: yep
MSmits: found a bug in connect 4
MSmits: if you win with the last move, it says it's a draw
MSmits: he obviously placed the draw-check before the win-check
MSmits: I am also a little worried about the amount of times my p1 bot beats my p2 bot. As in... almost always
MSmits: I guess i might just be deterministic
MSmits: This game might need a steal option
MSmits: maybe not, not sure
struct: MSmits tell me if this makes any sense
struct: this is google translated from japanese
struct: Speeding up field implementation by bitboard The field is 6 rows wide, 14 rows vertically including the invisible part. If you put the wall up, down, http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/31ccf947-1e5f-480e-9559-6e600f4031b0
MSmits: not to me no
struct: yeah
MSmits: probably would need to study this hard to know what it's about
MSmits: also translated out of Japanese = a bad start
struct: Well from the code I read they do store all the colors and skulls on 3 128 bits xmm
struct: so 5 in 3
MSmits: hm ok
MSmits: looks painfully complicated
MSmits: connect4 was a breeze to avx
struct: MSmits still there?
MSmits: yea
MSmits: was about to go to bed, why?
MSmits: struct
struct: i think i found another good article on it
struct: I share it tomorrow
MSmits: ahh ok
MSmits: gn then :)
struct: gn
LPTFabio: How i report a bug about "coders Strike back" in some game my bot finishes in first but it counts as a lost (against the boss)
LPTFabio: nvm
ZzzTRAPzzZ: how do I raise/drop my clash of code score?
Wontonimo: play more clash of code
Wontonimo: your score is pretty much as high as it can get. There are a few more points for you to get, but it doesn't go above 5000 XP. If you want more XP you'll need to play other competitions, like the Bot Programming.
Jay3401: Hello
