jacek: he can fit entire universe in bitboard
REAL_TYPHOON: halo
REAL_TYPHOON: I am real typhoon yo
REAL_TYPHOON: and you are
REAL_TYPHOON: :rage:
REAL_TYPHOON: :rage:
REAL_TYPHOON: :point_right_tone3:
eulerscheZahl: stop spamming emojis
REAL_TYPHOON: y6ou sayin' to real typhoon
eulerscheZahl: you risk a kick right now
REAL_TYPHOON: do you have any idea who are saying to
REAL_TYPHOON: i am an 11 year old kid
REAL_TYPHOON: hi
REAL_TYPHOON: bye
jacek: oO
Zorg1: yet another genious that will write high quality CoC puzzles ?
Or64bit: Hey guys
Or64bit: Can I ask a quick c++ question?
geppoz: no harm in try ;)
Or64bit: So this is only theory for now, but I'd like to make a class that collects other classes which can be uninitialized if the user needs them to be
Or64bit: Basically I'd make a scene class that would collect other objects of classes that need to be in a gamescene at once
Piokemon: hello
BucurEva87: Where was the question in there, @Or64bit ?
eulerscheZahl: 404 not found
Skynse: I wonder what language CodinGame's backend was written in
Skynse: anyone know?
Megha.Akash: Just use What runs chrome extension and buitwith extension and check it out @Skynse
BucurEva87: I never tried that, but I highly doubt it works :))
aboqasem: HELLO
aboqasem: MY NAME IS SNIKE
i33mr: HEY PALLLLLLLLLL
aboqasem: WASSSSSSSSSSSSSUP
aboqasem: :poultry_leg:
i33mr: 7YOOOOOOOOOO ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Astrobytes: bye
MartinEduardo: Hello guys how are you?
artmyros: good
artmyros: im good
aamsii: merry christmas
TyLuu: me ri chịt mợt nha mấy ba mấy má
GamingWarrior: hi, I would like to join! (Also nice Chrismas eve)
MSmits: hi guys
struct: hi
MSmits: finished solver in the middle of the night, looking for other options now
MSmits: shared 2nd place basically, with jrke
7amasa: hello guys
7amasa: I am here to learn to be a software developer, what should I do now?
MSmits: mmh not sure if thats exactly what we do here
MSmits: we use algorithms to solve puzzles and play games
MSmits: not the same as writing an app, designing a database or maintaining a website
MSmits: you'll get faster at problem solving using code though
7amasa: Then what do you suggest I do if I want to find a job as a software developer :D?
ZarthaxX: pick a project, and you will learn while doing it
ZarthaxX: later you have that it show off in interviews
ZarthaxX: to*
7amasa: thats cool thanks for the suggestion, where should I pick a project?
ZarthaxX: that's smth you have to come up with
ZarthaxX: think of smth you would like to make
7amasa: aw makes sense :D
7amasa: Alright will start with that right away, thanks again
ZarthaxX: like a web app, or a desktop app
ZarthaxX: etc
ZarthaxX: you will start googling how to make your project and you will learn lots of stuff
ZarthaxX: better than just learning X thing without a purpose
7amasa: That makes perfect sense, thank you for your help bro
ZarthaxX: np :)
zhoubou: I'm doing the puzzle of the week (2048). I'm starting by evaluating how the board looks after a move (Up, down, left or right). How do I ensure I don't merge the same tile twice?
MSmits: maybe check the referee?
MSmits: see how it's coded
MSmits: obviously the referee needs to check this as well
MSmits: (I mean the github link)
MSmits: usually i dont need to, the description is clear enough in most cases
zhoubou: Where can I find this link?
MSmits: in the description I guess? Thats where it is usually add
MSmits: at
MSmits: scroll through it
zhoubou: Ahh, I see it. It's hidden in the text for "Expert rules". Thanks!
MSmits: np
Gorter: Dumb question maybe, but why is there no factor for shortest in clash of code. Code size really depends on the programming language used...
Jasperr: Why would there be
Jasperr: Imagine winning shortest with 200 lines of Java vs 50 lines of Ruby
Jasperr: Kinda weird right?
Gorter: Yes and no
Gorter: I think that data type definition should not be counted as characters at least.
zhoubou: I think it's unsolvable that way. Where do you stop with rules like that? Unless it was made so only people with the same programming language can join...
zhoubou: Or if it was mandatory to choose a certain language
Jasperr: I disagree (with the arbitrary ignore-rules), shortest is as much a challenge of solving the problem as it is of picking the right language and figuring out nifty language-specific tricks
Gorter: Yea you are probably right. Wouldn't mind something like a ranked mode, where there are only 1 or few options. Which varies..
Jasperr: A language-specific clash mode would be fun, but would also be pretty much impossible to fill with non-bots as everyone has their own preferred language
Gorter: Depends on the language I think :P
Jasperr: Haha true
Gorter: Python would be popular
Jasperr: Most people seem to use Python or JS in non-shortest and Ruby in shortest
MSmits: people also use python in shortest because they just dont know ruby
zhoubou: Anyone did 2048 puzzle recently? I'm having problems with it not "listening" to my output.
jrke: i last saw you when you were going to sleep MS now i am going to sleep lol gn
Astrobytes: gn jrke
MSmits: hey
MSmits: gn jrke
jrke: b-bye
jrke: btw before sleeping i wanna say that yes MS you play first 50-55 moves good to win in D&B
struct: MSmits SupSon asked if you used bitboards on D&B
jrke: have to play *
k4ng0u: zhoubou what's your problem exactly? I basically copy pasted (with small translation from java to c++) the referee and didn't not encounter major issues
MSmits: oh
MSmits: yeah i do use bitboards on D&B
MSmits: but i convert them into a graph for the solver, so its only temporary
struct: oh well, I told him you used them
zhoubou: k4ng0u I'm sorry. My mistake. "Right" in my language starts with "D". That's where the confusion comes from.
struct: and linked him chat log
MSmits: well i do
MSmits: two uint64_t, one for hor and one for vertical
MSmits: then convert to a different system with boxes instead of lines
MSmits: a single uint64_t for that. Thats for the graph
Astrobytes: makes sense
k4ng0u: zhoubou by language you mean your code right? not sure how the language can influence on what "starts" by what => it seems to be very implementation related
zhoubou: My native natural language. English is not my native language.
k4ng0u: oh ok ok I see
zhoubou: Thanks for chiming in :)
Astrobytes: desni/desno
Astrobytes: ?
zhoubou: Yes ^
Astrobytes: just googled it :)
Salted: Hello World!
Astrobytes: hello
MSmits: hi
zhoubou: Astrobytes nice googling skills there
Astrobytes: thanks, I was hoping I'd chosen the correct ones :)
zhoubou: Haha :P
TobiasA: in this defibrijksjdfjsjftor thing i done everything correctly but it keeps choosing the wrong one
Mohamed_Kharrat: guys where do we find puzzle of the week ?
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/optimization/2048
eulerscheZahl: while the default code is enough to get 100%, that's not what you are supposed to do here
eulerscheZahl: improve the algo to get a higher score, as this puzzle has a leaderboard
Mohamed_Kharrat: thank you :D
jacek: or maybe this puzzle should reject invalid moves
eulerscheZahl: i allow them to avoid being too mean (users predicting the next spawn wrong)
eulerscheZahl: if not for the possibility to print multiple actions in a single frame, it would be different
eulerscheZahl: sneaking around CG limitations and trying to minimize the unwanted side effects
icecream17: I love this hack: ["2", "3"].map(Number)
BrunoFelthes: just dont do it
icecream17: generally it would be ["2", "3"].map(a=>+a)
BrunoFelthes: it is just a bad practice, because the map will pass more arguments.. try ["2", "3", "4"].map(parseInt)
BrunoFelthes: ["2", "3", "4"].map(n => parseInt(n)) works and ["2", "3", "4"].map(parseInt) dont works
icecream17: I used Number instead but your point about bad practice is valid
jacek: is code gold ever good practice? :thinking:
icecream17: no i'm using it in regular code b/c it looks better than nested for loop for input
NeoXX: hi
NeoXX: anyone have good resources to learn c++ ??
Wings501: http://cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
VizGhar: yup cplusplus rules
VizGhar: any recommendations for scoring function fo 2048 puzzle?
icecream17: 2048 strategy is to put the biggest one in the corner i think
VizGhar: this is insufficient :) In puzzle on this site we have much more knowledge to base our evaluation on
icecream17: https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/a/2753/51442 can help maybe?
VizGhar: Hmm might help...
icecream17: you can play an action that doesn't move anything (invalid but doesn't make you lose), to try to manipulate the rng, but that's only possible if there's an invalid action in the first place
struct: These were linked here before, I never read them though
struct: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/311555004_Systematic_Selection_of_N-Tuple_Networks_for_2048
struct: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327912401_Comparison_of_Expectimax_and_Monte_Carlo_algorithms_in_Solving_the_online_2048_game
VizGhar: :thumbsup:
Astrobytes: with a common them of a 'snake' of increasing numbers culminating in the largest in a corner
Astrobytes: *theme
VizGhar: Seems like best evaluation from all articles I read so far as well...
Astrobytes: Also, you can get to ~77th with sheer laziness and a hardcoded repeating sequence of moves :P
Astrobytes: (I haven't written a proper bot yet)
Astrobytes: I think the n-tuples approach shows a lot of promise.
VizGhar: i'm 119 with ulululul / dlululul :D
VizGhar: a lot of reading tho
Astrobytes: do you print those separately (by letter) or just as is?
Astrobytes: And yes.
VizGhar: when {
board == currentBoard -> println("DULULU")
else -> println("LULULU")
}
VizGhar: Reading the article, and I don't like this part:
Each of them requires a dedicated LEARN EVALUATION algorithm, which adjusts the evaluation function on the basis of the observed experience represented by a tuple (s, a, r, s0, s00).
VizGhar: I'll go simpler most probably
Astrobytes: jacek's your source for n-tuples stuff, he has some recent experience with them on here
Astrobytes: *go-to source
VizGhar: I'm missing too much theory as well. not even sure what n-tupes means :P
Astrobytes: just a tuple of n-size
VizGhar: 10 years writing android apps. I didn't need this stuff
icecream17: i think a tuple is like a list or array
Astrobytes: representing positions (patterns) on the board
icecream17: oh
Astrobytes: but with weights assigned to them
icecream17: so an n-dimensional board where each cell has a value?
Astrobytes: hey, don't worry, I have trouble with some theory at times too. I'm not even a developer
Astrobytes: not quite icecream17, just patterns from the board
icecream17: ah. i see that i've never seen this before. hmm
icecream17: i'll search it up
VizGhar: We have a lot of work to do icecream17 :P
Astrobytes: It's tricky to get your head around, especially from the papers
VizGhar: And what you do Astrobytes if I can ask?
Astrobytes: It's worth asking jacek when you see him online
icecream17: https://www.google.com/search?q=pattern+programming https://www.google.com/search?q=board+pattern+programming
Is this close
Astrobytes: Currently I do pharmaceutical regulatory affairs, previously (pre COVID and a back problem) I was also assistant manager at my local wildlife conservation centre (I'm a biologist)
JBM: cool story bro
Astrobytes: oioi JBM
JBM: ahoy there
VizGhar: Wow, quite impressive :) I can't imagine how you "end up" here
VizGhar: I know some biologists, pharmacists myself... none of them ever touched code
Astrobytes: I've been into it as a hobby for a long time, I've done a few courses here and there, and I was once a junior webdev (2000/2001)
JBM: leave the code alone you perv
Astrobytes: heh heh
Astrobytes: how's it going JBM
JBM: more and more alcohol as the evening goes
JBM: you?
Astrobytes: Working towards the same goal
JBM: yeah xmas w/o family is weird
VizGhar: :D :D man of culture JBM?
VizGhar: ah I see
JBM: culture... cool word, so many interpretations
icecream17: I think maybe I found an error in the second reasearchgate source?
JBM: whew
Astrobytes: Family or not, most festive times I try to maximise my alcohol consumption as evenings progress even if simply to deal with family members
JBM: for a sec i thought you found a bug in temperatures
Astrobytes: :D
Astrobytes: Everyone knows it's bugged already. No news there.
JBM: hey, old classics
JBM: yeah right
Astrobytes: The latest bug is that 2048 just accepts random admissible letters and you get 100% :o
Astrobytes: *latest 'bug'
VizGhar: Yup... Original 2048 is solved after you get 2048... This should have been minimal requirement. But it's optimization puzzle, so who cares
Astrobytes: ah, no, I was just being facetious to be honest, sorry :)
icecream17: interesting, the paper says that there's an 80% chance to get a 2, but in here there's a 50% chance
icecream17: wait no
Astrobytes: Also remember that in this version (CG version) you're given the RNG and the seed, so you know the location of the next spawn
VizGhar: Hmm it is 50% isn't it? just checking second bit of seed
icecream17: oooohh i was acutally correct. i got confused about the bitwise & operator
VizGhar: But i'm not sure whether that <seed * seed%something> isn't favoring some values more
VizGhar: not important
Astrobytes: ask euler when you see him next about it, it's a conversation
VizGhar: have you seen his 3d puzzle? I fear we will see mars lander 3D in a year :D
Astrobytes: Yes, Blockout, looking forward to trying it out! Hahaha, now that would be something
VizGhar: I'll most probably transfer to contributor rather than problem solver. I loved my first experience with SDK. Hope I can finish the game successfuly
Astrobytes: I look forward to trying it out soon!
struct: too many games
struct: so* many
Astrobytes: Hey, you still have to have a crack at some games once in a while too
VizGhar: You can try it right away :P https://www.codingame.com/contribute/view/59519a876ee17f2efd6a5e0813e7a8fdd0c9
Astrobytes: I know, I know. I mean I don't have the time right now :D
VizGhar: Know that feel bro
Astrobytes: Anyway, time for some brandy and maybe a few pálinkas
Astrobytes: goodnight all
VizGhar: :wave:
struct: gn
Ortieez: I finally finished my first clash of code :D I am so happy I finished it and I also got score of 100%
Mirras: nj man
shilezhi: :grinning:
CRH17: i want to learn code but dont even know where to start
REAL_TYPHOON: halo
