Feeg4ever: and also red hacker
Feeg4ever: you guys are getting sleepy.
RShields: hacking is almost always, make a phone call to someone stupid, say you're IT, and ask for their username and password
Feeg4ever: Haha
Feeg4ever: hacking the satellite. start the laser beam... then booom
Andriamanitra: very true, humans are almost always the weakest link in any security system
Feeg4ever: what an AI will code for us?
Feeg4ever: make it secure.
Feeg4ever: is that possible?
RShields: who will write the ai
Feeg4ever: the humans!
Feeg4ever: oh i get it
Feeg4ever: okey...
Feeg4ever: neverming
Feeg4ever: nevermind
Oregane: maybe they'll do something like caml, get a bunch of mathematicians to check the thing is secure and when you add anything, make it auto check itself
rajington: js is all about the ecosystem and not a standard library, should at least have access to lodash/underscore
rajington: for the length ones, use `var` or `let` instead of `const`, much shorter
rajington: and drop unnecessary spaces
rajington: or variable allocation
poopooooo: ok
poopooooo: why is it telling me 'Found: Nothing'
poopooooo: https://puu.sh/GboKq/24200b49a2.png
poopooooo: :L
rajington: all your lines start with a space
poopooooo: really?
rajington: yeah, you add space before vs after, i bet after it would work (even though your output has an extra space at the end)
remi6: Hello!
poopooooo: but that's impossible
poopooooo: I join the elements of a list with the space delimiter
poopooooo: then add new line char
rajington: oh nm misread, not sure
poopooooo: yeah, I think I got trolled by the IDE
remi6: This is weird.
remi6: There is an extra newline in the end. Could this be a problem?
TheMightyBrocolli_2e91: this is so facking hard
TheMightyBrocolli_2e91: why is this so hard
JBM: because you facking suck
TheMightyBrocolli_2e91: damn
TheMightyBrocolli_2e91: im only 13 okry?
JBM: good news: that's fixable
JBM: if you say so
FLQ4: don't be a bully lol
JBM: "he started it"
scareware047: is there a way to use a config file for all preprocessor directives?
JBM: as long as it's already on the CG servers
Alshock: @TheMightyBrocolli_2e91 you can talk about it on this chat if you feel stuck ^^
jrke: this weekly puzzle is easy
SPDene: it was for me: it's an old puzzle I solved last week, so I just resubmitted :)
hphadi: hi
hphadi: :underage:hi
jrke: SPDene i did the same "RESUBMIT"
jrke: now my last quest of last path is left
scareware047: I meant outside of CG
scareware047: in general
scareware047: like I have 2 files with different #define blahblah
scareware047: and I want to load both but if they overwrite a value then throw an error
MSmits: there is no outside
JayBeAl: hey, is there a way to use an own IDE and/or additional files?
MSmits: you can use your own IDE
JayBeAl: and how to get the inputs?
MSmits: but everything has to appear in the CG IDE eventually
MSmits: in 1 file
MSmits: there's some tools for working in multiple files and automatically combine them
JayBeAl: oof
MSmits: i dont use them, so dont ask me how to find them
JayBeAl: damn, okay thanks anyways
MSmits: I find that working with bots sizes of 1k lines is ok
MSmits: dont need multiple files for that
MSmits: 2k bots become a bad experience to code, i admit
MSmits: VS helps a lot, i just collapse functions so they're easily scrolled past
JayBeAl: Well im used to keep my files clean and short, it is hurtin me just using one file :D
MSmits: you'll get used to it :)
JayBeAl: Funny thing is, keeping all in one file is against clean code in every way xD
MSmits: depends on how much *all* is
MSmits: many players here can code bots in 300-400 lines
JayBeAl: Still too lang files for my tastes :D
JayBeAl: long*
MSmits: but that's a matter of style/taste
JayBeAl: right
MSmits: there is no reason not to work in files that long
MSmits: there's also disadvantages to working in multiple files
MSmits: I tend to lose track of what is where
JayBeAl: Im used to it, i can hold the track easily. Im working at a very large project at my company where it is common to use short und many files
MSmits: 1 file becomes untenable when you cant quickly scroll back and forth between stuff you're coding. Starts to happen near 1k I find
MSmits: yes, but that is a different kind of projecrt
MSmits: of course you have to do it then
MSmits: there are more differences like that
JayBeAl: sure sure
MSmits: for example, noone cares about writing get and set functions
MSmits: or access modifiers
JayBeAl: oof
JayBeAl: xD
MSmits: it's just quicker
MSmits: less typing
MSmits: less problem with working in 1 file :)
JayBeAl: but less expandable without partly rewriting
MSmits: but you dont really need to expand
MSmits: you need to experiment mostly
Nixerrr: Common OOP good practices often don't apply on CG
MSmits: try different approaches
MSmits: usually that means different files for different bots
MSmits: but each file is self-contained
MSmits: at least thats how i do it
jrke: i have one doubt in pacman suppose there are 2 ways for same pellet with same distance then which way will our pac follow.
JayBeAl: Aight, then i have to get used to it
MSmits: but hey, you can work however you want it, provided you use a tool that puts everything in 1 file, others do it
MSmits: you're not alone
tomatoes: maybe there are ready to use "bundler" on forum, search
MSmits: there are
MSmits: not sure which languages
Nixerrr: I know there are ones for Java and C++
MSmits: jrke probably the first one the pathing algo finds :)
MSmits: basically, dont use the autopather, write your own pathfinder
JayBeAl: sure
JayBeAl: Thanks to all for the input!
MSmits: np
MSmits: btw, i am not a professional coder, so take what i say with a grain of salt here. CG is most of what I know
jrke: MSmits means first finded by refree pathfinder
MSmits: yes jrke
jrke: thanks
jrke: will look at refree
jrke: where can i find refree link
jrke: in bugs and question
MSmits: should be in the statement ?>
MSmits: sometimes it's not in the wood versions, not sure how it is for pacman
jrke: ah found
jrke: i m failing to make gold :(
DomiKo: jkre in pacman
DomiKo: there is code in java
DomiKo: using java queue
DomiKo: and there is only comparator for distance
DomiKo: so i guess if there are two paths with same distance
DomiKo: then random is chossen
jrke: hmm
Xcalibre: just output the second cell of the path u want to take
DomiKo: i had the same problem back then
Xcalibre: or first if u're bumping into a wall
DomiKo: so your own pathfinding should make stuff much easier
hphadi: hi
hphadi: iwant help
Alshock: as kaway
hphadi: come my room
hphadi: azhar
hphadi: зайди ко мне в комнату
Цветение
NoiselessDictator_aeca: hello
NoiselessDictator_aeca: :neutral_face:
AntiSquid: #ru hphadi
Logiman09: Hello
- neutral_face:
Logiman09: /me
Logiman09: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
**Logiman09 Confused
**Logiman09 slaps Logiman09 around a bit with a large fishbot
Logiman09: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
**Logiman09 slaps Logiman09 around a bit with a large fishbot
Logiman09: :pensive:
can someone talk pls..
_Sophia_: Hello
EEEEEEEEEEEEE: I believe I am talking
JayBeAl: i cant see the video of crystal rush on my firefox browser on linux pc. What did i do wrong? Though i can see puzzles like batman
_Sophia_: ok
EEEEEEEEEEEEE: Hmmmm I just checked crystal rush and it looked like something changed. I'm still using my contest code, but it looks like there are some new inputs...
JayBeAl: my code is running, im getting valid outputs, i just cant see the video
cmd.exe: bezdım dünyalarımi
JayBeAl: i can see any other video, lol
JayBeAl: just not the one of crystal rush. And i dont have any errors
EEEEEEEEEEEEE: Try refreshing?
JayBeAl: i did, i also deleted cookies and cleared cache
[CG]Thibaud: any extension messing with it?
Astrobytes: Sometimes fully closing and reopening the browser works, or open in a fresh tab
[CG]Thibaud: I guess you're not seeing it either on the game page main page and not just in the IDE
JayBeAl: @Thibaud yes. But it is only crystal rush, i can see any other puzzle's/challenges videos's
JayBeAl: @astro i already did several times
[CG]Thibaud: tried with another browser ?
JayBeAl: not yet, is next step ill try
JayBeAl: sadly i have to update my archlinux first and this will take its time since i didnt use this notebook for months xD
remi6: Here is a little thing that collects Clash of Code links from Twitch chats #Clash
JayBeAl: Updated linux, restartet notebook, crystal rush is now working again.
eulerscheZahl: great
eulerscheZahl: oh, I got promoted :o
Astrobytes: grats!
eulerscheZahl: you too
Astrobytes: So I see
eulerscheZahl: and the list of online users is much longer now
eulerscheZahl: who is Automaton2020?
Astrobytes: Ah yes. I have no idea
jacek: and urge for trolling has just increased
Astrobytes: lol
Scarfield: i thought you didnt want to be mods euler and ModstroBytes
eulerscheZahl: my days as a troll are counted :(
Astrobytes: Who said that Scarferator?
eulerscheZahl: i have to create a new account, now that I deleted my alts
Astrobytes: You can mildly troll, pleasantly
Scarfield: 1.463 days, and counting(?)
eulerscheZahl: is that a decimal point or a thousands separator?
Scarfield: i thought you both said you didnt want to, or at least werent sure
Scarfield: xD
eulerscheZahl: i never said anything like that when I got asked
Astrobytes: No, just jacek because he wanted to concentrate on his trolling
eulerscheZahl: and Uljahn wasn't sure about it
eulerscheZahl: and struct just left us :(
Astrobytes: Still nothing from him?
eulerscheZahl: last sign of life i got from him was a :thumbsup: on the 15th
Astrobytes: Hm. He does have a habit of going AWOL from time to time
eulerscheZahl: no idea what AWOL means but yes, he occasionally vanishes
Astrobytes: Absent WithOut Leave
eulerscheZahl: i hope i didn't cause burnout for him
Astrobytes: Military term originally
Scarfield: AFKWOL
Illedan: Hi
Astrobytes: Well, he could just have said euler
eulerscheZahl: hi moderator Illedan
Illedan: Oh, chat moderator now \o/
Astrobytes: Hey Illedan
Scarfield: gonna be nice with some more mods though :)
Illedan: how do I do this moderator thingy? :P
eulerscheZahl: with /kick Illedan
eulerscheZahl: try it
Illedan: AH
jacek: alt+f4
eulerscheZahl: can you kick yourself?
Illedan: nope
Illedan: :P
eulerscheZahl: can I kick you?
Illedan: sure
Scarfield: maybe if you are a mod?
eulerscheZahl: if not, i'll get a plane ticket and try in person
Illedan: haha
Illedan: Please come
Illedan: I'm moving tomorrow
Illedan: need help
eulerscheZahl: oh
eulerscheZahl: far away or just in town?
Astrobytes: Ah good luck with the move
Illedan: Only 15 km
Illedan: My apartment is all boxes -.-
eulerscheZahl: so not a life-changing event
Illedan: Bigger house though
Scarfield: nice
Illedan: not an apartment anymore \o/
Illedan: Bigger Office :dance:
Illedan: And garden
eulerscheZahl: any plans for kids?
Scarfield: or dogs, or being mod?
eulerscheZahl: or hobbies that need an extra room
Illedan: Kids eventually
Illedan: For now, just bigger space and a more permanent place
Scarfield: imagine how many extra monitors you can fit now
Astrobytes: cats > kids. Wayyy cheaper too :P
Illedan: gf really wants a cat
Illedan: but I want to fix the house first :P
Astrobytes: Yeah, that's a good idea
eulerscheZahl: so you are not next to a busy road i suppose
Illedan: Nope
Illedan: Now we are
eulerscheZahl: great conditions to adopt a cat
Scarfield: sounds like a great upgrate
Illedan: The noice and dust :scream:
Astrobytes: That will make a pleasant change
Illedan: I have friends alergic to cats
Illedan: so we would have to get a allergy friendly cat
eulerscheZahl: then you meet them outside in your garden
Astrobytes: Get new friends!
Scarfield: lol
Astrobytes: :grin:
Illedan: haha
Illedan: :D
**eulerscheZahl warns Astrobytes for trolling :P
Astrobytes: hahaha
Illedan: Did you try to kick me?
eulerscheZahl: nope
Astrobytes: nope
Illedan: Try
Astrobytes: lol
eulerscheZahl: Illedan has been kicked by eulerscheZahl.
Illedan: :(
eulerscheZahl: is that visible to everyone?
Illedan: I saw it
Scarfield: ye
Astrobytes: yep
Illedan: Nice :D
Illedan: Is there a list of possible commands?
eulerscheZahl: did not stop you for long :D
eulerscheZahl: /kick
/ban
eulerscheZahl: and some external clients seem to support unban
Scarfield: /exploit
Astrobytes: /troll
eulerscheZahl: gajim that is
jacek: /rm -rf *
Illedan: How long does a ban last?
eulerscheZahl: until the server is restarted
eulerscheZahl: so for weeks possibly
Illedan: Ok, don't ban me then
Illedan: :D
eulerscheZahl: don't worry
eulerscheZahl: also: kick/ban only apply for the current channel
Astrobytes: Oh ban is also channel exclusive
Illedan: ah, nice
Illedan: #jointobebanned
eulerscheZahl: recurse banned me on a testchannel once
Astrobytes: Oh yeah, forgot about that
Illedan: :D
Scarfield: can you actually ban/kick/silence someone without being a mod? there was this kid last week trolling and started PM some of us
Illedan:
eulerscheZahl has been banned by Illedan.
eulerscheZahl: he did it
eulerscheZahl: and i won't see if you continue writing on that channel
Illedan: Perfect
Illedan: Now I can spam all the secrets
Scarfield: xD
eulerscheZahl: afaik you can't even kick or ban in private messages. not even when you are a mod
Illedan: :(
Illedan: That is the important stuff
Scarfield: sadness, he got bored from being ignored quick enough though
eulerscheZahl: and banning occasionally has the effect of getting spammed via private message
Astrobytes: Yeah, many PMs will be incoming (screencapture at the ready for the good ones)
Illedan: oh, dbdr first in SR again \o/
dbdr: :)
Scarfield: oh and also a mod
Scarfield: coincidence :thinking:
Astrobytes: More mods than you can shake a banhammer at!
eulerscheZahl: are you getting scared Scarfield?
Astrobytes: Scarefield
Scarfield: yea, just realised there are more mods here than not
Scarfield: :hugging:
eulerscheZahl: you weren't here when Thibaud asked for volunteers I suppose
Scarfield: the responsibility would be too much
Scarfield: and that emblem of power does not match my name :p
dbdr: from now on, think twice before beaten my scores ;)
Scarfield: lol xD
Astrobytes: lol
aCat: oh - some easy PotW ;-)
aCat: right in time ^^'
dbdr: less easy since I fixed the validators
dbdr: but yes, still pretty easy
Illedan: PotW?
Astrobytes: puzzle of the week
Scarfield: prisoner of the wizard
Illedan: Oh, nice
Illedan: Time to solve :D
eulerscheZahl: what was wrong with them?
eulerscheZahl: the validators i maen
Scarfield: not checking if sub grids were "solved" correctly i suppose
Scarfield: at least saw a solution that didnt check for that
aCat: Is there a list of tags already used by the puzzles?
eulerscheZahl: i guess i could extract it, as i downloaded all puzzles
eulerscheZahl: but meh
aCat: Im just putting first letters
aCat: and autocomplete gives what it has ;-)
eulerscheZahl: are you sure?
aCat: good eanough- it puts some tags with '0 puzzle' even
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/learn/%F0%9F%92%A6%F0%9F%92%A6%F0%9F%92%A6%F0%9F%94%A5%F0%9F%94%A5%F0%9F%94%A5
Scarfield: am considering to start FB, these are some potentially fast wizards
Scarfield: -106 < vx < 106
-106 < vy < 106
Scarfield: 10^6 *
eulerscheZahl: i bet you didn't find the above tag
aCat: My contribution is not SO weirf
aCat: *weird
eulerscheZahl: your spelling is weirf
aCat: i know ;p
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: it was sufficient to test if all sums were 45
eulerscheZahl: oh :D
Astrobytes: lol, bit of an oversight that one
dbdr: found out by looking at other rust solutions
eulerscheZahl: 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5
dbdr: looks correct ;)
Scarfield: xD
Astrobytes: hehehe
dbdr: in average
eulerscheZahl: don't we have an approval process for that?
Scarfield: there is even a test case called "summing is not enough"
eulerscheZahl: let me guess: dbdr's testcase
dbdr: what a coincidence
Scarfield: ooh
Scarfield: facepalm
Scarfield: facefist even
dbdr: easy now
Scarfield: xD
Astrobytes: Scarredface
Scarfield: only BruisedFace, no need to worry
Astrobytes: Ah good :D
Illedan: Quest done :tada:
Astrobytes: I only have clashes left :/
Astrobytes: And I hate clashing
Scarfield: its only xp anyway
Illedan: Level 42 :tada:
Illedan: Only optimization again
Illedan: Code of the Rings -.-
Astrobytes: I spent all my spare time at the weekend doing optim and golf. Totally traumatised.
Illedan: Wanna talk about it?
Astrobytes: No. PTSD :P
Illedan: :D
dbdr: Illedan, I kinda want to stay at lvl 42 now :)
Illedan: 42 ftw
dbdr: 40, 41, 42, 42a, 42b, ...
Illedan: Create a script to replace all > 42 :D
dbdr: :)
Astrobytes: ..42a1, 42a2...
Astrobytes: Every additional level is a meta-42 level
eulerscheZahl: like the latex versioning system
Astrobytes: So Atari Go has 17 hours left for approval, anyone got bots in there that can approve? AFAIK the only issue was the viewer (the huge memory usage) and that's been fixed
Stilgart: Astrobytes: don't ask me
Astrobytes: lol Stilgart :D
Stilgart: did I refuse ths one ?
Stilgart: (I wanted too quite badly)
Astrobytes: Nah, that was Othello
Astrobytes: Do feel free
eulerscheZahl: i'd like to see it approved. but i won't without writing a bot myself
Scarfield: you refused othello :o
eulerscheZahl: he did
Stilgart: Astrobytes: there was a contibution that asked to simulate a game of go
eulerscheZahl: :tomato:
Scarfield: sacriledge
Astrobytes: It was a reasonable rejection Scarfield
Astrobytes: That was a puzzle I think Stilgart
Scarfield: heathen :p
Stilgart: for multiplayer, i do not know what to think about
Stilgart: Astrobytes: yep, a puzzle I did refuse
Scarfield: oh, then i am not offended anymore :p
Stilgart: anyway, it's an existing game I play sometimes, so I also want to refuse the multiplayer version
Stilgart: but since it might be intersting, I won't vote
Astrobytes: It has varying board sizes
Stilgart: still breaking the magic imho
Scarfield: but why refuse it though? serious question btw :)
Stilgart: I just don't want to code a bot for a game I actually play (personal opinion, nothing more)
Scarfield: isnt it a little much to refuse it then, i mean you dont have to code a bot for it?
Astrobytes: That's why he's not voting Scarfield
Scarfield: oh, im extra slow today lol
Astrobytes: It was that facepunch
Scarfield: xD
Scarfield: even just had a coffee, never drink coffee this late
Astrobytes: I gave up drinking coffee past 2pm-ish tbh
Astrobytes: Depending on workload
Scarfield: yea me as well, but forgot to drink it ealier, and really wanted one cup.. RIP sleep
Astrobytes: Drink rum. Should counteract it.
Stilgart: hum... coffee has no effet on my sleep :/
Astrobytes: High tolerance.
Stilgart: rum might have some
Astrobytes: ;)
JBM: rum
Scarfield: im more of a whiskey guy
Astrobytes: JBM smelled the text from afar and appeared
Stilgart: time to go back on #fr to drink beers
Stilgart: :D
Astrobytes: :beers:
eulerscheZahl: play vindinium if you like beer :P
Astrobytes: Bourbon or Irish Scarfield?
Scarfield: irish single malt prefferably, but im not picky :p
Astrobytes: Yeah the Irish make fine whiskey. Whisky-wise I love a Talisker single malt
Scarfield: mmmm
Astrobytes: Nice and smoky
Scarfield: lafroic and lagavullin are great as well, probably slaughtered the spelling
Astrobytes: Laphroaig and Lagavulin
Stilgart: eulerscheZahl: nice try...
Stilgart: but bender 4 first, and space maze even before
eulerscheZahl: bender features beer too
Astrobytes: Hmm, yeah, Forgot about Bender 4. Still need to do my Number Shifting solver too and quit playing it by hand
eulerscheZahl: and Illedan needs to finish the app
Illedan: Yeah
Illedan: I do
Astrobytes: Put that in with chess then?
Illedan: I just have to do this moving
Illedan: pff
Illedan: :D
Illedan: Just do chess if you like
eulerscheZahl: how shall we get rich if you don't build the app?
Illedan: true true
Illedan: I need to pay for the house
Illedan: what was I thinking
Illedan: Off to the app
Astrobytes: lol
Illedan: I finished Snake this weekend for a friend :D
Illedan: https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/8462468ed0113b37c6abb9f1a25ad764b388cc
Illedan: (he is going to use it for some work stuff :P )
Stilgart: eulerscheZahl: no beer in space maze, which is probably why my code does timeouts :(
Astrobytes: Ah nice. You should have combined BEKK and Snake and called it snek
Illedan: xD
Illedan: Only Vodka in space Stilgart. Beer is too heavy to lift enough
JBM: vodka
Scarfield: lol
Astrobytes: Wray & Nephew. You can power your ship with the stuff.
eulerscheZahl: let's say the car brand is a volvka
Stilgart: :D
PatrickMcGinnisII: Hacking at RobberCity, damn thing is almost a 1 liner
Stilgart: wait... why is this a medium puzzle?
Astrobytes: Maybe was chucked in when they combined the CG and community puzzles
Stilgart: nope, DPamar came after the merge (and I can see the difficulty set in the contribution)
Astrobytes: Ah alright then
PatrickMcGinnisII: nicola said same thing in forum
Stilgart: I think it ended up in medium because the statement is so long to read
PatrickMcGinnisII: It doesn't really affect anything
Illedan: :zzz: cya
Astrobytes: gn
AntiSquid: isn't snake like some kinda TRON ?
Insufficient: ok so I have a question re: the surface puzzle, any of you know it well?
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/training/hard/surface this?
Insufficient: (i dont want to outright ask it because i might give away spoilers)
Insufficient: yeah that one
PatrickMcGinnisII: i did it, wassup?
AntiSquid: ok then don't ask lol
Insufficient: no dont worry
Insufficient: i will pm you
Insufficient: to avoid spoiling for others
AntiSquid: lol most don't read chat anyway
jacek: :thinking:
AntiSquid: so many puzzles out there ...
PatrickMcGinnisII: yea, not gonna give it away im sure
LuaCultist: e
SandmanSW96: is there a page that lists all the previous puzzles of the week?
Astrobytes: Nope, just the puzzles page
PatrickMcGinnisII: just hit notifications and scroll down
SandmanSW96: yeah that's a long way to scroll when you missed like 4 months
SandmanSW96: and had to start a new account lol
PatrickMcGinnisII: alot of puzzles have been promoted as puzzle of the week many times I'm sure
SandmanSW96: all good
Astrobytes: Yeah, best just to work through them from the main pages
PatrickMcGinnisII: Insufficient 's question? kinda went no where...so I'll make up my own question...can u solve it in under 70 lines of code...answer: yes
Astrobytes: That the fill one with the islands?
PatrickMcGinnisII: yea, actually pretty easy
Astrobytes: Yeah, it was an easy one. Maybe not for everyone I guess
PatrickMcGinnisII: Insufficient you have to realize that some languages may not be fast enought o handle 10kx10k boards
PatrickMcGinnisII: or even their input
AntiSquid: he is looking for shortcut algos that cut computing time
AntiSquid: best thing is to google ...
AntiSquid: or try to make up an algo !!
Insufficient: that's not what i was looking for but maybe i've just been really unclear in my pm's - sorry to bother you
Insufficient: i appreciate all your help both Patrick and AntiSquid
AntiSquid: that's what i understood though, thought you want some tricks to make it fast enough to work in python
Insufficient: no, i already have it working
PatrickMcGinnisII: there are a couple of ways to optimize so no timeout occurs. I mostly do php and test case 9 completes just fine. in the case of 2 bodies of water in a 10kx10k board...it's fairly easy to floodfill use a stack and a visited board to answer the questions without repeating the process
PatrickMcGinnisII: i don't think i gave it away, but you only have to floodfill once
AntiSquid: honestly how many puzzle solvers read the chat?
Insufficient: if there are less than or equal to 2 bodies of water yes
Insufficient: but could easily be 3 or more in a 1000x1000
Insufficient: would be cool if there were a very hard alternate which gave those cases maybe, just an idea though
PatrickMcGinnisII: Insufficient I don't know what the string input limitations are, but I'm sure the memory limitations are the real constraints on large lakes
PatrickMcGinnisII: eg. case 9 is like 360k right from the start
PatrickMcGinnisII: multiple by 3 (inputmap,visited map, lake id map) = 1M...so i'm pretty sure the test cases had to be limited. Am I wrong?
Insufficient: no that was also my suspicion, that this problem might legitimately be extremely difficult with a broader set of test cases
PatrickMcGinnisII: Well if we had to bytepack and bitboard it wouold just be a pain in the butt for a puzzle
AntiSquid: not sure but i think at your level you could at least create your own version of the puzzle and test it with whatever custom cases you want Insufficient
PatrickMcGinnisII: I'm currentl having issues with the Equalizing Arrays puzzle...I have found better solutions than the "correct" answers
PatrickMcGinnisII: So i don't think the given solution code (when you get to a high enough level you can view the contribution)
PatrickMcGinnisII: is actually correct
PatrickMcGinnisII: and those that have solved it have used the solution code as a guide and have fallen in the same "trap"
PatrickMcGinnisII: there's no forum on the puzzle
PatrickMcGinnisII: yet, at least
RoboStac: I've solved it without looking at the submitted solution, but can't guarantee I didn't fall into a trap
AntiSquid: ah forgot the old style puzzle don't require you to upload anything ... so one could just attempt it offline, measure the time it takes and then optimize
Insufficient: hmm so if anybody cares, reading the discussion for surface, non-recursive BFS might be faster/better than recursive floodfill for this problem, and if not, then it might be just a language issue
PatrickMcGinnisII: robo, tx...I'm glad people did it and found the same results as the contributor...I could be wrong, but test case 5 i get 45 operations instead of 49. And I don't have the time to pick it all apart
PatrickMcGinnisII: Insufficient you really don't even have to floodfill, just iterate thru the map once setting up some other variables along the way, if that helps.
AntiSquid: always avoid recursion if you can
PatrickMcGinnisII: If I have to flood, i just use two stacks , what is it ...dijkstra? I dunno, my mind is garbage right now
Allis: @AntiSquid I'm not sure that's sound advice?
AntiSquid: are you using some functional language? was referring to speed, not readability :p
PatrickMcGinnisII: recursive is only faster if you can exponentially reduce the function calls, otherwise it can only equal an iterative algorithm in speed
PatrickMcGinnisII: like find the GCM or LCM of a set, then recursive is elegant and faster
PatrickMcGinnisII: very few, even tree traversals...ok I give up. AntiSquid you are right 99.9% of the time
PatrickMcGinnisII: ;)
AntiSquid: i hope so
AntiSquid: AutomatonNN how can we make recursion faster than iteration?!
AutomatonNN: what are you playing there?
AntiSquid: even AutomatonNN thinks it's daft
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see a code between the leaderboard and only replace with me and play
PatrickMcGinnisII: ooooh NN is still pinging eulerscheZahl
PatrickMcGinnisII: lol
AntiSquid: even asks him to play
PatrickMcGinnisII: beware of frog tongue
Astrobytes: Slightly less frequently than previously but yes
Scarfield: he can ban the automatons now though, and people inviting him to CoC
PatrickMcGinnisII: my brain is shot, I did my puzzle for the day
PatrickMcGinnisII: lol Scarfield
AntiSquid: oh lots of new mods i see
AntiSquid: was spamming that intense recently?
Astrobytes: Aye
PatrickMcGinnisII: I don't want to be a mod, i want to cuss indisciminantly
PatrickMcGinnisII: oops
PatrickMcGinnisII: i typed out loud
AntiSquid: AutomatonNN should we make alts and troll to see how long they survive?
Astrobytes: ban for spelling error
AutomatonNN: what do you mean?
PatrickMcGinnisII: I can't even type
PatrickMcGinnisII: smh
Astrobytes: Yeah, we had that idea earlier AntiSquid
PatrickMcGinnisII: yall be good, if u can't be good be good at it. need food, brain mush
Astrobytes: later Patrick, take care
AntiSquid: i see, so dirty mods making alts around here eh?
Astrobytes: Nah, just floated the idea. For trolls we have jacek to keep us occupied
AntiSquid: AutomatonNN what's going on with this neighbourhood
AutomatonNN: why not be a bot ?
Astrobytes: Why not indeed AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: marchete that doesn't work as well
AntiSquid: ah perfect solution
Scarfield: lol
Astrobytes: Wow. Good ping
Allis: Wait, are we not all bots?
AntiSquid: we can all identify as bots
AntiSquid: bots to the system, scripted in school
Allis: Or, well, just a buncha hydrogen with way too much time on its hands.
AntiSquid: im carbon based
Allis: Hydrogen begat carbon.
Allis: But this was a very long time ago.
Scarfield: 60ish% water though, so that will mean 120% hydrogen obviously
Allis: 60% of the time, it works 120% of the time.
Insufficient: Can we send links in chat?
Astrobytes: sure
Insufficient: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-zEbokJAgY
Insufficient: i thought this was really cool
Astrobytes: Insufficient:
https://github.com/mame/quine-relay
Insufficient: hahaha thats awesome
Allis: Endoh-san is brilliant.
Astrobytes: Alright, I'm out for tonight, gn people
AkarshNeeraj: In clashofcode, after submitting, can I edit my code?
Scarfield: gn
AkarshNeeraj: I saw people increasing their score from 80% to 100%
AkarshNeeraj: how did they do that?
AkarshNeeraj: Can anyone please let me know?
Allis: I've never seen that happen.
Allis: The interface certainly doesn't give you the option to edit your submission, but if that's actually happening, they're probably abusing some undocumented API.
AkarshNeeraj: Oh! Okay
Allis: That is, replaying the request with a different program, but I feel like CG would have checks in place for that.
AkarshNeeraj: It definitely should check this
AkarshNeeraj: Btw, Thanks :)
Allis: I'm almost certain it does, so it may just be that you confused two different users with similar names? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
AkarshNeeraj: Umm..No, all users were of different names. I literally saw people changing their score from 80% to 100%. I am new here so I thought that maybe after submitting I would find some way to revisit my code and edit it.
Allis: Hm... I think it might just be that you're misinterpreting the UI. The board at the end of a clash isn't fixed; submissions will get "bumped down" as better ones come along.
Insufficient: oof thats the best feeling ever, i wrote a recursive solution to a problem, it wasnt working, so i converted the recursive solution into a dynamic programming solution and it worked
JBM: that reads weird
JBM: dp and recursion aren't orthogonal
Insufficient: if you've completed super computer you can see exactly what i mean, published solution with comments
Insufficient: i saw a way in this case where i could turn my recursion into dp
JBM: super computers?
JBM: isn't that the scheduling one?
Insufficient: yeah
JBM: man that's old
JBM: i don't remember having to do anything as complex
JBM: what language did you do it in?
Insufficient: python 3
Insufficient: i only found this site in like may so is all new to me
JBM: yeah i'm not going to be able to see your thing then :D
JBM: well, i'm not going to redo it just to see yours
JBM: but you've got access to other solutions now
JBM: i suggest you browsed a few, i can garantee there's more simple than dp
Insufficient: im sure there are, but it was a nice feeling to be able to do it with DP
JBM: :)
Stilgart: as far as i can remember, the solution can be though as a special case of DP
Stilgart: but I hardly call it a DP
Stilgart: Insufficient: almost anyt
JBM: "a" solution
Insufficient: and yeah sorry i forgot there is language barrier between solvers
Stilgart: anything can be done with DP
Stilgart: JBM: the (expected) solution
Insufficient: yeah its more just i want to get better at DP so it was nice to be able to do it right, even if in this instance there were simpler solutions
JBM: try puzzles with the DP tag then ;)
Insufficient: ooh i see roller coaster has it as a tag, nice thanks
Insufficient: also i take the tags as loose guidelines, sometimes its good to be original and just try stuff you think might work
JBM: true that
SandmanSW96: hey,
SandmanSW96: has anyone in here finished 1D Spreadsheet?
SandmanSW96: monkey crap nevermind lol
noahkamara: Does anyone know how I can assign a variable like `a = 2`in the Stub Generator?
Zenoscave: you can't
Avex: lmao
Feeg4ever: and also red hacker
