mark7: eulerscheZahl seems to be online 24x7
chandubaba: hellos!
toby666999: hello
chandubaba: @cegprakash what is aoe?
chandubaba: oh sry, i thought you were talking about the stream name, not the game lelz
chandubaba: hi toby
chandubaba: howz you?
toby666999: I have a question
toby666999: How to pass the security check of CLASH OF CODE
LelouchVC2: I know it's really hard
LelouchVC2: Need an IQ of at least 140 to pass those security checks
toby666999: i have 139...
LelouchVC2: if u have a vpn on, that'll probably trigger it
LelouchVC2: damn, so close!
toby666999: I'm too hard...
LelouchVC2: Tell that to my wife
toby666999: ...
toby666999: I think I should have more practice...
toby666999: Bye!
eulerscheZahl: toby666999 i see that you are from China. CodinGame uses google's reCaptcha, which is blocked for you as far as I know
TrentT: He's a chatbot, very advanced neural network
GeonuiShin: wow nice to meet you
AntiSquid: everyone's a chatbot TrentT ??
GeonuiShin: help me..... making code is enormous hard
AntiSquid: ask Automaton2000 he will help
Automaton2000: it would be the best way to get the data
AntiSquid: get the data GeonuiShin
AntiSquid: also get an avatar
GeonuiShin: thank you
GeonuiShin: i am starter of coding
Uljahn: Automaton2000: im a codingstarter, twisted codingstarter
Automaton2000: click on the bronze league
TrentT: Automaton2000 What is the best programming language?
Automaton2000: i made it to wood 1
[CG]Thibaud: congrats Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i'd be surprised if it was a problem with the way i did it
TrentT: Where's the NN one?
TrentT: Automaton2000 Where is your brother?
Automaton2000: i thought you were joking
[CG]Thibaud: it replies to its name too. Right AutomatonNN
AutomatonNN: what is the most problem?
TrentT: AutomatonNN Is AntiSquid a good coder?
AutomatonNN: because i was thinking of that guy in the chat that he said that it's an answer
GeonuiShin: how can i the answer of problem? i can't solve the problem
GeonuiShin: i couldn't even guess
AntiSquid: try an easier problem
AntiSquid: which puzzle are you doing GeonuiShin
LelouchVC2: He was doing the same puzzle as me
GeonuiShin: hahah yeah
AntiSquid: clash?
LelouchVC2: Turn a decimal into hex, binary, and octal
GeonuiShin: lol!
LelouchVC2: hex and octal were easy, there's c++ functions for them, but sadly need bitset for binary
GeonuiShin: then if i know way of turning , i could solve it?
LelouchVC2: Yea
LelouchVC2: But best to look for a function already written for your language
GeonuiShin: oh thanks !!! you are my hero!!!!
LelouchVC2: Get use to your language and get familiar with looking up documentation
GeonuiShin: i will try to googling
iboman: this game is frustrating me...
Uljahn: Automaton2000: send help pls
Automaton2000: but i'll wait for the enemy
DarkRubberDuck_7750: hi guys someone did the temperature's puzzle?
Gorbit99: ye
DarkRubberDuck_7750: i can't resolve the last test i mean, i don't know what i'm supposed to do
Gorbit99: make sure you have all the requirements in place
DarkRubberDuck_7750: for that test the 't' input is 0? is null?
DarkRubberDuck_7750: there's no input?
Gorbit99: when no input given, return 0
Gorbit99: it's in the rules
DarkRubberDuck_7750: kk you're right
DarkRubberDuck_7750: ty mate!
Gorbit99: nw
rectifier: firstinp=="0"?0:secinput...
AntiSquid: wlesavo can make bulls and cows available wthout the validators ? (for offline use)
wlesavo: sure
wlesavo: in a few days if its not that urgent for you
AntiSquid: not urgent
AntiSquid: just figured out what i want to do, but don't want to code the game before i start the solution :D
AntiSquid: also will do after contest not now
wlesavo: remind me if i will forget
AntiSquid: ok will try
LoGos: wow landing a rocker with GA is pretty hard
LoGos: wonder how Elon does that
LoGos: (/s)
Uljahn: doubt he used GA
Uljahn: there are simplier ways and also more robust
AntiSquid: he didn't do it, he hired someone else to do it for him
AntiSquid: hire Automaton2000 to do it for you
Automaton2000: but it is the most efficient way to do it after the contest
AntiSquid: Automaton2020
Uljahn: confused with all those new avas, i understand euler now :/
anid: everyone has a pacman avatar now :D
MatInf: .
Fosfen: Hi !
code_maniac: Hi
Adnmaster: wait, what do you mean everyone has a pacman avatar now?
JBM: sure
Adnmaster: ?
JBM: i have a pacman avatar, you have a pacman avatar, everybody has a pacman avatar
Adnmaster: wait...
Adnmaster: still "?"
Astrobytes: Can't you see all our PacMan avatars?
Adnmaster: no?
wlesavo: Pebcacman avatar
Adnmaster: no
Adnmaster: i cant see any pacman avatar
Adnmaster: there must be a bug
Gorbit99: that's a shame, yours is the fanciest
Adnmaster: nice :D
Adnmaster: i can only see the pacman avatar of "anid"
Adnmaster: noooooooooooooooo
Astrobytes: Hey Gorbit99, I know you from the OLC discord
Adnmaster: i have a question, why isnt the chat flooded when so many people use codingame?
Astrobytes: Wait til later when the contest starts
Quidome: :D
Adnmaster: :sweat_smile:
Uljahn: also there are flood amplification tricks with mentioning Automaton2000
Automaton2000: my code works for all test cases but when i look at my code for this
Uljahn: i ate the pacman but I didn't eat no AutomatonNN, oh no!
AutomatonNN: what is the problem with the same code playing on any other player?
Gorbit99: oh, really Astrobytes? What's your user there?
Astrobytes: Gorbit99, 'Astroshytes', I don't post too often, more of a lurker
Gorbit99: ah, I see
wlesavo: why so shy
Astrobytes: Can usually find most info I need by searching on there, plus I'm usually on CG
Adnmaster: guys is it possible to solve horse racing duals?
muy31: yeah of cousre it is
Adnmaster: mine always finds everything except one test case and one validator
Astrobytes: Nope. Totally impossible. Nobody has ever solved it :P
LoGos: ^
question for those that solved Mars Lander using GA: do you also "land" using GA? I mean my program does pretty good job getting to the landing zone but landing is almost impossible.
Adnmaster: its possible
Adnmaster: i solved it
Astrobytes: Landing too hard?
Adnmaster: wait
Adnmaster: nvm
Adnmaster: idk what GA is
muy31: genetic algorithm
Astrobytes: Genetic algorithm
Adnmaster: ???????
muy31: a simplified algorithm
Astrobytes: Google evolutionary algorithms
muy31: that changes due to environment
Adnmaster: ok dont bother to explain i wont understand anyway
muy31: no its simple stuff to uderstand and implement
muy31: just google
Adnmaster: google's what?
Astrobytes: You'll never understand it if you don't try to learn about it
Adnmaster: ok
Adnmaster: im interested
Adnmaster: what exactly is it about?
LoGos: I mean the restrictions are to have rotation = 0, |vx| < 20 and |vy| < 40 to land. While my GA can reach the landing zone it has problems with meeting these requirements
LoGos: especially rotation
MSmits: I managed to do marslander 2 without GA
MSmits: 3 seems impossible to do without it
LoGos: Hi MSmits
MSmits: hi
LoGos: Im practicing GA btw
MSmits: never done one myself, but I know the theory
LoGos: and someone suggested Mars Lander
MSmits: hopefully I won't need it for contest :)
MSmits: yeah, 2 and 3 are commonly done with GAS
MSmits: 1 can be done with a simple heuristic
Rafal.Py: Is this chat for the Wood League in Coders Strike Back or for something else?
MSmits: this is world chat
MSmits: you can ask about csb here also
Uljahn: ML3 was the easiest very hard puzzle for me :/
Rafal.Py: thx
muy31: for mars lander 1, i just put 3
MSmits: there is no challenge specific chat
muy31: thrust to solve the puzzle
MSmits: that works too
muy31: no coding necessary
MSmits: I just thrust if it goes too fast
MSmits: probably uses less fuel :P
muy31: lol
LoGos: Yeah I know guys. I'm just wondering if when using GA do you also attempt landing with it.
I'm currently taking control over the ship when close to the landing zone and that works well.
I'm just thinking if there is another way
MSmits: my marslander optim code is crap, but I love this replay: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/457940281
muy31: honestly though one can easily solve mars 2 w/ physics
MSmits: yes
MSmits: you need some heuristics to get over peaks and such
MSmits: but mostly it's just physics
MSmits: think I'm gonna take a nap before contest starts
muy31: you can just simulate where you will be in some time after x thrust, and what your new speeds will be
MSmits: yep
muy31: how many turns you will need to thrust to counteract your speed enough to safely land
muy31: and then you are pretty much good
Astrobytes: In other words, yes, you can do it fully with the GA
LoGos: it's not about the result. It's about the method of getting it.
Astrobytes: Just keep tweaking it
muy31: but that is GA...
LoGos: muy31 sorry then I didn't realize
muy31: no prob loGos
Uljahn: LoGos: i guess you could add collision conditions to your fitness
Uljahn: like large bonus if they are good for landing and malus otherwise
LoGos: understood, thanks!
darkhorse64: I do everything with the GA or more precisely my fitness function does everything: penalise hitting the ground far from the landing area, if within the landing area penalise bad landing conditions, then reward remaining fuel (my main goal was the optim puzzle)
darkhorse64: So far my best score is 2338 l remaining
LoGos: thank you very much!
I once "solved" TSP for a school project using GA. It worked pretty well. It's interesting when there is a time limit per turn.
LoGos: darkhorse64 do you keep chromosomes from previous turn?
darkhorse64: Yes. The funny thing is that I do not find a solution from turn one but still it goes to the right direction. It takes a few turns to fully converge and even though it keeps on improving the fuel.
Uljahn: why don't just use heuristic solution and then optimize it with GA?
darkhorse64: From my little experience, this is usually a very good idea to feed your GA with an approximate solution. I just do not have one
darkhorse64: in hand
Uljahn: i've recently published my solution to ML2 in py3 with sort of a magic formula (simplified feedback controller) :)
LoGos: Nice! I've been learning about it last semester.
LoGos: Though on less exciting examples...
darkhorse64: I now have access to all C++ solutions. DaNinja solved the puzzle in 14 loc !
dbdr: solutions are visible in classic puzzles? :o
struct: yeah
darkhorse64: If you solve it first and only in your language
struct: if the player decides to share
dbdr: I thought that was only for community puzzes
darkhorse64: I should have written "all published solutions"
darkhorse64: It should be a golf puzzle
dbdr: golf/optim/multi :)
dbdr: make your opponent crash
eulerscheZahl: "I thought that was only for community puzzes"
how long are you on CG already?
JBM: there's no such thing as community puzzles
JBM: there's editable puzzles and flawed puzzles
eulerscheZahl: and there are sponsored puzzles. these really have hidden solutions
DanielN: I don`t can solve this puzzle. Please help me!
JBM: solve another one! problem solved
Uljahn: git gud ezpz
DanielN: I SOLVE THIS PROBELM POWER OF THOR- EP 1!!
JBM: you rock
JBM: now try onboarding
Jerzy: Thor ep 1 is easy
eulerscheZahl: oh, that boring sudoku validator puzzle got approved
eulerscheZahl: and i was bored at the sudoku solver already
Uljahn: time to commit sudoku Automaton2000
Automaton2000: i don't even know how it works
Astrobytes: sudo Automaton2000 -c ku
Automaton2000: i don't think i'm going to do the same for y
kid_coding: sudo DFS?
Astrobytes: *-'-c'
inoryy: Username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
DanielN: Please help me on problem TEMPERATURES!! Thank YOU!
Astrobytes: finger Automaton2000@codingame.com
Automaton2000: i was using the wrong word
Quidome: what's the problem DanielN?
DanielN: TEMPERATURES PUZZLE
JBM: no need to shout, we hear you just fine
Quidome: yes what about it specifically
dbdr: eulerscheZahl: not that long, actually :D 2.5 years I think
MatInf: i have gpt problem with temperatures too, but i have 93%
dbdr: today will be my first CG-made contest. I'm a newbie, really
Quidome: OK nice, all test cases int the green? Validator on 93%?
Quidome: That one is a lot about reading
MatInf: yes, in validator 7
MatInf: is problem
dbdr: Quidome: doing the contest?
Quidome: sure
dbdr: :+1:
Quidome: Killing time, answering questions :D
MatInf: u know what problem?
Quidome: Moment I am going to look
MatInf: at that moment i ended power of thor
Quidome: which language are you using?
Quidome: What is the most easy way to shre code?
Quidome: share
MatInf: i am programming on c++
Quidome: cool, can you share your code
MatInf: ok, wait
Quidome: wait, let's go into private chat
MatInf: ok
MatInf: good idea
MatInf: but how? i started to use it today
Gorbit99: if you post here, I can maybe help too
Quidome: Good I started the private chat for you
Quidome: Ok, better
Quidome: do it here
Quidome: Didn't want to flood the chat :P
MatInf: ok wait, because i was trying to make it shorter and i broke something
Gorbit99: just pastebin the original and send that
Gorbit99: probably no need to make it shorter
Quidome: How to pastebin?
Gorbit99: https://pastebin.com/
Astrobytes: Just post the code, it pastebins automatically
Gorbit99: oh, neat
cegprakash: I'm streaming tonight!!
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=553&iso=20200507T22&year=2020&month=5&day=7&hour=22&min=0&sec=0&msg=Join%20the%20PAC%20with%20cegprakash
MatInf: hello?
Gorbit99: hello
Gorbit99: you didn't post code
Astrobytes: Just paste your code here MatInf
MatInf: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/98a5093c-e4fc-4d41-b52f-43a72b4fb159
Gorbit99: max(0-t, t-0) could be an abs(t)
Gorbit99: and generally you don't need to write 0-t, -t is enough
MatInf: ok
MatInf: but where is mistake?
Gorbit99: you don't handle 0s well
Gorbit99: you can get a temperature value that's 0
Gorbit99: so you can't use it as a placeholder value
Astrobytes: Which validator are you failing?
Gorbit99: I would say just make it into something that's bigger than the largest temp
Gorbit99: 7
MatInf: mistake is on validator 7
Quidome: Two negative temperatures that are equal: {-10 -10}
MatInf: i have to end at that moment, i can try to be back after hour
MatInf: bye
Astrobytes: Was just about to tell him how to use the custom testcases so he could debug
Quidome: bye
Quidome: :)
cegprakash: https://twitch.tv/cegprakash at 4:30PM UTC
MadKnight: we got a holiday week right until next wednesday
Astrobytes: You're doign the contest then MadKnight?
struct: Is russia taking measures?
MadKnight: ye
struct: Last time I saw it was increasing 10k a day
Astrobytes: cool
Astrobytes: Yeah the cases are shooting up
cegprakash: yaay MadKnight is in!!
MadKnight: but it's bad at taking measures so it's taking bad measures
Astrobytes: :D
cegprakash: was missing MadKnight in last two contests
Astrobytes: Yeah cegprakash
MadKnight: russia could launch an actual quarantine which includes $$ help for the citizens but instead they took everything from "quarantine" except for the $$ help
MadKnight: so now we got fines for stuff but no $$
inoryy: they denied any issues for too long
Astrobytes: How nice of them :/
Astrobytes: Standard behaviour inoryy
inoryy: it was obvious corona was already there, being so close to china and having many tourists come and go to china during the lunar year celebrations
MadKnight: when italy was at 100k russia was at 27
inoryy: back when every neighboring country had an outbreak putin said it's clean as a baby
struct: yes MadKnight, but that is highly unlikely
MadKnight: what exactly
wlesavo: those numbers i guess
Uljahn: inoryy: looks more like lukashenko though
struct: those numbers
MadKnight: i remember checking those numbers one day
wlesavo: lol
MadKnight: i saw 100k in italy and 27 in russia
struct: yeah
struct: but can you really trust those numbers?
MadKnight: doesn't matter
MadKnight: they saw 27 they didn't do anything
Uljahn: we are going to outperform the US yay :muscle:
wlesavo: that would be hard, but we will try
struct: Brazil also in danger
Astrobytes: UK is... pretty dismal
inoryy: corona is just propaganda of the opposition in brazil
Astrobytes: Bolsanaro's response is mind-boggling
Astrobytes: *Bolsonaro
darkhorse64: The fools are running the asylum
Astrobytes: Sadly very true
DanielN: how to i add the new line in JAVA? New line system.out.println
Gorbit99: that adds it automatically
darkhorse64: println adds a new line
Gorbit99: because it's "print line"
Uljahn: you mean \n?
inoryy: \n/
MadKnight: /n\
darkhorse64: \o/
MadKnight: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Astrobytes: \n7
darkhorse64: \o--
fadal: i got a technical assessment coming up soon on this site and i barely understand the questions they asking why cant they just give me a normal technical interview smh
MadKnight: normal technical interviews are for the weak
fadal: well im weak :(
MadKnight: fix it
LoGos: CSB gold under 90mins
MadKnight: solve this puzzle and become strong
MadKnight: -3vel ezpz CSB gold under 5mins
MadKnight: what's the questions fadal ?
wlesavo: MadKnight promotion to silver and gold can be long
MadKnight: doesn't matter
fadal: i would if i understand the questions like i practised on leetcode and the structure of questions is completely different
MadKnight: they can still see that the same code *will* promote
Gorbit99: believe him
Gorbit99: csb gold in 5 mins
struct: Also they might use this site
struct: https://www.codingame.com/work/
wlesavo: maybe since interview is tommorow it is gonna be to get bronze on the contest
MadKnight: u want this job? go get good rank in this PvP competition
MadKnight: (c)
fadal: wait u can have pvp competitions on here?
struct: yes
struct: bots vs bots
wlesavo: and interview is held by CG (they wont actually hire, just assigned many interviews to different people)
Astrobytes: fadal - you can try the example screening about halfway down this page:
https://www.codingame.com/work/offers/screening/
fadal: ill give it a shot thanks
struct: it is redirecting to CG site astro
struct: The start trial thingy
fadal: yh
Astrobytes: scroll down
struct: ah I see the ide
Astrobytes: And just click on it to activate it
fadal: man i wish they would just look at my github and look at the projects i built and just be satisfied with that but i guess a perfect world doesnt exist
Astrobytes: They're testing your competence in problem solving and presumably language fluency, shouldn't be a problem
wlesavo: fadal there are some really fun puzzles here, try to be positive about it and may be you will enjoy it
fadal: yh true its just i get nervous in test conditions... oh well still gonna try my best
Astrobytes: Use your nervous energy, it's a good thing. Just be calm and focus on the problems
Astrobytes: You got this
fadal: thanks :)
Astrobytes: No worries, good luck :)
AntiSquid: did everyone stockpile before contest?
Quidome: just got back from the supermarket :P
AntiSquid: one hour to unload your van
dbdr: the pros just stop eating during a contest
wlesavo: thats your secret?
dbdr: oops
AntiSquid: i thought pros would automate the feeding process
wlesavo: no eat till legend
dbdr: digestion slows your brain
AntiSquid: food coder IDE CG-arena pipeline
Quidome: don't eat carbs only protein
Beerus: i think this contest has high participation
BenjaminUrquhart: internal error
BenjaminUrquhart: cool
[CG]Thibaud: where BenjaminUrquhart ?
MatInf: about what are u talking?
[CG]Thibaud: https://www.codingame.com/sc2020
dbdr: [CG]Thibaud: is it good?
dbdr: is it ready? ;)
BenjaminUrquhart: [CG]Thibaud when I access the contest page
BenjaminUrquhart: 500 on https://www.codingame.com/services/Challenge/findCodinGamerTeamProgressions
dbdr: HTTP Status 405 – Method Not Allowed
dbdr: indeed
BenjaminUrquhart: post
Mino260806: Hello guys
AntiSquid: hello guy
Mino260806: What are you talking about?
dbdr: but is that supposed to be access directly?
AntiSquid: pizza, life, happiness, everything Mino260806
Mino260806: :expressionless:
BenjaminUrquhart: post ["spring-challenge-2020",<your CG id as int>] to that endpoint
BenjaminUrquhart: {
"id": -1,
"message": "internal error"
}
Neabfi: Hey! Do you think it is worth it in the contests in general to do a MCTS instead of a plain Monte Carlo ?
Neabfi: I feel like 100ms is short for a MCTS, that will lead to few game move simulations
struct: Neabfi depends on the game
Skolin: well the idea of MCTS is that there are too many trees to search so only focus on those that seem important. therefore, especially in short time constraints, it should work. In ultimate tick tack toe it did work better as far as i know
BenjaminUrquhart: there are people doing MCTS in 50ms games
BenjaminUrquhart: it just depends on the game
Skolin: but yeah it does depend on the game
AntiSquid: it depends more on the people than the game
darkhorse64: Even with 25 ms, I would do an MCTS
BenjaminUrquhart: how about 1 ms
struct: even in 1 ms
Skolin: on which people`? the implementor or the opponents bots?
wlesavo: you still have first sec
darkhorse64: I'll wrote a reactive bot
BenjaminUrquhart: wlesavo not necessarily, it's possible to remove that
struct: But are you gonna create a game where you cant really use the time?
wlesavo: well sure, with dynamic conditions
BenjaminUrquhart: struct maybe
BenjaminUrquhart: :eyes:
AntiSquid: that won't happen BenjaminUrquhart
darkhorse64: On tron, I use less than 1 ms
AntiSquid: you need the 1 sec first turn, because of other reasons unrelated to the game
BenjaminUrquhart: nobody said the game had to be usable smh
darkhorse64: heating the Java Diesel
AntiSquid: what is it then a guessing game
darkhorse64: Rock-Paper-Scissors
AntiSquid: cows and bulls
Jasperr: doing my first contest in C++
Jasperr: lets see how it'll go
wlesavo: bnc is doable in 1ms, not in optimal way though
struct: Also minimum turn time is 50ms in sdk
AntiSquid: bnc ?
struct: So you cant really go lower than that
wlesavo: bulls n cows :slight_smile:
AntiSquid: bloody acronyms
BenjaminUrquhart: what if I reflect hacks
AntiSquid: it could have been bayesian network classifiers or some algo name you know
wlesavo: you can put a sleep command in referee between sending inputs i guess
struct: no
struct: timeout is measured on player.execute()
BenjaminUrquhart: private static final int MIN_TURN_TIME = 50;
AntiSquid: we can downvote it
BenjaminUrquhart: can't downvote it f it doesn't exist
BenjaminUrquhart: if*
AntiSquid: boycott it before it's even out
struct: If you can do it ill aprove it
struct: :)
Mino260806: hey guys when i have an error in my game how do i get to understand it because i just see a bunch of red characters that are not readable in the game info (too small)
Aarcry2.0: Hello guys
Quidome: Hi
BenjaminUrquhart: hi
BenjaminUrquhart: Mino260806 which game
eulerscheZahl: no akshat
struct: yes no akshat
Aarcry2.0: The Blue Side 2.0
dbdr: did you continue Tulips Quidome?
Mino260806: BenjaminUrquhart why do you want to know the game?
Quidome: no
dbdr: I just resubmitted
Quidome: I got bender 4 on 100%
dbdr: I'm ready for the contest
dbdr: ah, nice!
eulerscheZahl: me too, just created the contest project
eulerscheZahl: and we have release mode for C#
eulerscheZahl: :tada:
dbdr: they just added it?
Quidome: You were stuck on place 3 dbdr
eulerscheZahl: yes, check the forum
AntiSquid: what does that mean in terms of speed?
Quidome: i am watchin ;)
Adnmaster: anybody know what the game will be?
BenjaminUrquhart: everyone says pacman
Quidome: prince 2
BenjaminUrquhart: or a variant
dbdr: hours before a major event, what a good timing to make a major change
Adnmaster: pacman but what kind?
AntiSquid: hard to guess at this point Adnmaster
dbdr: what could go wrong?
AntiSquid: it's pacman duh
Adnmaster: how do you make yout text red?
Skolin: from the trailer video i was thinking like agar.io, as there was a big pacman eating a small pacman
struct: Java flashbacks
eulerscheZahl: and my OOC bot broke because of the language update
eulerscheZahl: THIBAUD!
Quidome: naming another person in your text makes it red
AntiSquid: Adnmaster https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/441380/ss_b7eb1d63263119db019fcb5c1cac6f84b5d885c4.1920x1080.jpg?t=1587747918
mark7: Where will be the refree available
eulerscheZahl: yes
eulerscheZahl: github
eulerscheZahl: check statement when it's there
CJDawson: My first coding comp lmao
Cappefra: do all old contests expire at some point or is there a reason why some are still joinable and some aren't?
mark7: okay
BenjaminUrquhart: AntiSquid :eyes:
Cappefra: like fantastic bits is still doable but not skynet revolution for instance
dbdr: could the contest be an optim?
struct: dbdr i think so
AntiSquid: it can be a 1vs1 duh
AntiSquid: more likely given coverart
BenjaminUrquhart: "Difficulty: Contest (BATTLE)"
mark7: we all will start with wood league 2 right
struct: Cappefra skynet is availalbe as a puzzle
BenjaminUrquhart: battle means it's a multi, not optim
struct: You can use the search bar at the top
Cappefra: or detective pikaptcha which is also over although it's pretty new
wlesavo: same as detective picptcha
BenjaminUrquhart: pikaptcha was a mess
AntiSquid: mark7 they can had 100 wood leagues or just 1, so really not really
Cappefra: oh ok so some become puzzles
Cappefra: cool thanks
wlesavo: Cappefra check the puzzle section, not every contest is multi
Quidome: some are starting a clash :D
BenjaminUrquhart: clash is taboo
AntiSquid: what do you mean Quidome ? there's always clash players that ignore the contest
BenjaminUrquhart: inviting people to a clash during a contest especially
AntiSquid: they even post clash questions in chat during contest and complain their clash isn#'t working because of the contest
Quidome: aha, ok
Cappefra: oooh wait I just noticed, if you try to access them from "contests" it says it's over regardless, but from any other section, like bot programming, they're joinable
Jasperr: you can easily do a few clashes in 5min
Quidome: contest seem far more exiting to me
Jasperr: true true
AntiSquid: there's nothing wrong with you Quidome
AntiSquid: it's the clashers
CJDawson: My first comp help
Adnmaster: mine too
struct: akshat
CJDawson: Wow
struct: Can you stop?
BenjaminUrquhart: ok, who wants to submit in CSB in the next 5 minutes
CJDawson: Wht language adnmaster?
AntiSquid: *throws life ring at CJDawson*
Adnmaster: python
CJDawson: Same
CJDawson: 3yrs experience here
Adnmaster: i think python is easy, and simple
CJDawson: Yh
Quidome: easy AND simple...
Quidome: wow
dbdr: those mean different things actually
Aarcry2.0: Ajax register for the competition with the company: The Blue Side 2.0
Aarcry2.0: Ajax register for the competition with the company: The Blue Side 2.0
rktech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-80laFIW9k
BenjaminUrquhart: ok
Adnmaster: do everybody still have pacman avatars?
BenjaminUrquhart: [CG]Thibaud still 500
mark7: 1min remaining
Quidome: tic tac tic tac
rktech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-80laFIW9k
ZeroByter: Im excited
llllllllll: HYPE BOIS
Albeast: 30 seconds!
rwilson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sbxQf6p2Yo
BenjaminUrquhart: it's a diversion
Floryan: good luck to everyone!!!
ZeroByter: glhf
Albeast: hype!
Adnmaster: good luck
AntiSquid: easy to learn, simple code
hynekfisera: glhf
Albeast: gl
SlimeySplay: gl hf
kedlub: glhf
Monstruo: Good luck!
Quidome: gl hf
Aarcry2.0: Ajax fast is almost on.
AntiSquid: ah chat scrool lol
Adnmaster: 10 seconds!!
mark7: and
Albeast: :grinning:
rktech: glhf
MatInf: i am trying it first time
Edjy: gl
mark7: 5
mark7: 4
mark7: 3
Aarcry2.0: Ajax fast is almost on.Ajax fast is almost on.
Adnmaster: begun!!
BenjaminUrquhart: ok brb submitting to CSB /s
informathemusic: 1
AntiSquid: lol bye
MatInf: is it easy?
Skolin: gl all :)
CJDawson: glhf
BenjaminUrquhart: ew video
kingofnumbers: then after 10 days we say gg ?
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
AntiSquid: looks interesting
BenjaminUrquhart: I could probably port my optim code to this
PandarinDev: glhf
Csipcsirip: where is the cg sync button ? :(
BenjaminUrquhart: 504 on submit
Adnmaster: you can use your code editor
RockyMullet: so it is litterally pacman
RockyMullet: nice
BenjaminUrquhart: oh it's because a million people hit submit at the same time
Adnmaster: why did you submitt now?
BenjaminUrquhart: memes
Adnmaster: dont you have tı write code first?
BenjaminUrquhart: stub
Albeast: loks good
eulerscheZahl: oh, fog of war again :(
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
Uljahn: no physics :(
BenjaminUrquhart: oh wrapping
informathemusic: It looks super complicated but i'll do it anyways
BenjaminUrquhart: it's really not
informathemusic: Aight then
Albeast: wrap around??!?!!?!?!
RockyMullet: yay fog of war :D
eulerscheZahl: a torus map @Albeast
AntiSquid: The grid is generated randomly, and can vary in width and height. i find this a bit annoying
CJDawson: I can't run my code!
BenjaminUrquhart: Uljahn "Crossing paths or landing on the same cell as another pac will cause a collision to occur. In that case, the movements of the colliding pacs are cancelled."
CJDawson: It's stuck on an animation
BenjaminUrquhart: so there are physics
mark7: "MOVE pacId x y: the pac with the identifier pacId moves towards the given cell (pacId is always 0 in this league). " can I give x,y, of cells not neighbouring
CJDawson: "An error occurred (#73): "Only 1 executor running at the same time for a test session"."
Adnmaster: why are there only 31 people in the leaderboard?
BenjaminUrquhart: because only 31 people submitted
Adnmaster: ok
PotatoCoder: too scared bro
CJDawson: How does this work?
informathemusic: Oh it's simple actually! LUL
BenjaminUrquhart: what are the caps for width and height
akshat: I'm receiving error: An error occurred (#73): "Only 1 executor running at the same time for a test session".
akshat: What should I do?
RockyMullet: will the random bot beat the default bot
Albeast: relod?
Ajanx112: whats this _mine variable is it c specific
Albeast: reload
CJDawson: Why isn't my code running?
akshat: tried reloading but same.
CJDawson:
Oups
An error occurred (#73): "Only 1 executor running at the same time for a test session".
akshat: yeah same
Albeast: close all other tabs?
CJDawson: Rip
CJDawson: Closing other tabs didn't help
BenjaminUrquhart: screw this autocorrect
Albeast: hope and pray that it will work tomorrow
wlesavo: lol rock, paper or scissor pacs
HungryBurger: I had that happen once. You'll probably have to wait 5-10 minutes for the issue to resolve itself.
wlesavo: so its litterally rock, paper or scissor
CJDawson: What happens after clicking play?
BenjaminUrquhart: it plays
CJDawson: It's not for me?
CJDawson: I'm stuck on an animaiton
Adnmaster: it plays the code
Icebox: :wave:
CJDawson: Im stuck on anim
Icebox: Heyo boys
Adnmaster: hi
rereCurse: bruh
CJDawson: Im stuck on anim
CJDawson: Im stuck on anim
HungryBurger: I had that happen once. You'll probably have to wait 5-10 minutes for the issue to resolve itself.
CJDawson: The anim?
CJDawson: Rip
andrei00001111: Cum merge?
andrei00001111: Eu deabia am intrat
HungryBurger: The "Only 1 executor" error.
andrei00001111: Oops, wrong cvhat
akshat: are the servers down? I feel stuck, the yellow loading line doesn't move forward and it's just stuck.
CJDawson: I cant run code
BenjaminUrquhart: that's normal
CJDawson: Stuck on anim
NumberOneNA: wheres recurse
CJDawson: And
CJDawson:
Oups
An error occurred (#73): "Only 1 executor running at the same time for a test session".
BenjaminUrquhart: too many people submitting
Dav1dS: is anyone else having issues with the display
CJDawson: Yeah
struct: Anyone wants full rules?
[CG]Thibaud: what kind of issue
Dav1dS: it is just a black screen, its not showing the game
struct: https://i.imgur.com/yiA42Wh.png
informathemusic: Oh!!! Divid!!
informathemusic: *David ^^"
Dav1dS: https://i.imgur.com/2Q5arw7.png
Dav1dS: hey info
CJDawson: Hmm, so the comp broke?
wlesavo: struct thx a lot
struct: np
Astrobytes: Grr, I'm late. What's the contest like
CJDawson: Broken
struct: its like street fighter
struct: Totally not pacman :)
Nanosplitter: It's an FPS
Astrobytes: lol
Astrobytes: I'm out, wanted a PacMan RTS :P
semera: Somebody know if GameEngine already exists for SpringChallenge?
struct: https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020
semera: thanks
Doju: How long has the challenge been out?
Doju: like 15 mins?
struct: 20
Adnmaster: good luck for everyone!
Doju: alright cool
Adnmaster: how did people write code so fast?
Adnmaster: the contest just begun
Mentalist: is it safe to assume that each point that is not a # there is a pellet there unless someone already ate it?
[CG]Thibaud: Dav1dS do you have an error in the console ?
Dav1dS: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/68bf77f5-c7ab-4ed4-a169-09f483d4a22b
[CG]Thibaud: try with another browser ?
Dav1dS: ok one sec
Dav1dS: also i get this message <Module "entitymodule" disabled>↵
Dav1dS: works in firefox
akshat: Which c++ version does codingame uses?
Gonny: are there starter packs for this challenge?
tobk: can two pellets occupy the same position?
c0cainee: poor bilnky
c0cainee: already left behind
andrei00001111: From what I've seen codeingame uses GC++9
Doju: I'm kinda new to this type of programming. What's the best way to store the grid (in python 3)?
aCat: sumbission takes ages...
inoryy: numpy array
Doju: My naive approach would be to have a list of lits with Trues and Falses
Doju: or 0s and 1s
aCat: Doju either set with tuples/other structures
aCat: or dictionary sometimes
aCat: or as inoryy said array
Doju: Okay, thanks!
Mentalist: any tips for c++ ?
Mentalist: first contest!
Uljahn: watch ceg's stream :smiley:
MindControler: Guys, when is oppenent pac visible?
eulerscheZahl: 218 lines of code, time to submit it
andrei00001111: All I know is that '\n' is much faster than endl
eulerscheZahl: is there another promotion at CSB?
andrei00001111: Does anyone know the maximum height and width in the Pac Man contest?
reCurse: No it's just a contest start
Mentalist: Yeah I did watch that, and whizzed past the first coding bot tutorial
reCurse: Everyone submits the default code with minor modifications
reCurse: 222 computing, enough to kill CG
cmr624: whattup kings
eulerscheZahl: i modified a lot :/
aCat: reCurse but they beat the boss ;]
Doju: Also couldn't you just throw a neural net at this and call it a day?
aCat: I added like 6 lines
eulerscheZahl: i started by deleting most of the code
Nanosplitter: Do it Doju
PandarinDev: Description is wrong, typeId for pac is not integer
eulerscheZahl: and then copied my OOC to handle the grid
Doju: Might try it later, Nanosplitter, but I'll just try the traditional approach first
dbdr: Each pac is of a given type (<action>ROCK</action>, <action>PAPER</action> or <action>SCISSORS
anid: When is W1 opening?
Nanosplitter: There is 100k character limit so that makes NNs a little harder, also you can't use tensorflow as far as I know Doju
Gonny: aren't there usually starter packs?
Mentalist: /me
cegprakash: starting my stream now https://twitch.tv/cegprakash
Counterbalance: at dinnertime as usual :(
Doju: Oooh, that'd make it a lot more difficult, Nanosplitter
AllYourTorpedos: also the second part you have multiple things to control, you'll have to figure out how to scale your NN (either run it once for each teammate or have a master NN)
reCurse: NN during a contest :rofl:
MadKnight: ez
Doju: Ohh that'd be such a winning strategy though
inoryy: winning how
Fosfen: Does a minimax tree would require too much computation, given the fact that you can have up to 5 pac ?
Doju: imagine if you made a system with two competing NNs
eulerscheZahl: you don't win just to throwing in buzzwords
MadKnight: it usually takes MUCH more than a week
eulerscheZahl: just by ..
Waffle3z: try using blockchain
inoryy: quantum
eulerscheZahl: cyber
Icebox: wow I was so ready with my IoT machine learning AR solution for the net neutrality
Skolin: @Fosfen try it :)
Icebox: powered by big data ofc
eulerscheZahl: i will beat you with my industry 4.0
Doju: yes i know that'd be super difficult and maybe impossible in this timeframe but it'd be very interesting if you could pull it off
andrei00001111: Also does anyone know the maximum height and
inoryy: there are easier and more interesting environments to do that
blasterpoard: actually, possible positions of enemy pacs are "in superposition" when in fog of war, and finding the others after finding one is something quantum could be useful for
AntiSquid: have fun with the variable grid size
inoryy: easier to setup*
AllYourTorpedos: this is perfect information game right?
struct: no
AntiSquid: :D
Doju: I think only in the first leagues
inoryy: and the grids are variable length lol
AllYourTorpedos: F
Fosfen: Yeah @Skolin I wanna try it but I don't want to lose time if it's known that this wouldn't work :D
AntiSquid: yes
AntiSquid: F
inoryy: and multiple pacs to control
inoryy: that's like the worst possible combination of things for an NN to handle
Doju: Yeahh true
AntiSquid: also 1 week, not a month :p
dbdr: boss #100 after 40 minutes
dbdr: quite unlike OOC :D
eulerscheZahl: who wants full rules?
Doju: I'm still intrigued by the idea though
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/8418077ed71a7b5a95ed0be20717ef7385050f
AllYourTorpedos: meeee
AntiSquid: i mean a month is enough to do your bot, get bored and do random stuff
Skolin: Fosfen i think another problem with minmax is that you need many steps in to get a result. like if your macmans take 5 steps forward the game has not changed that significantly. so you need to calculate a lot of steps in. or a good evaluation :)
dbdr: wait, 4 leagues, starting from wood 2
dbdr: that means new rules in silver, right?
eulerscheZahl: yes
AntiSquid: no
Mentalist: quick question. how do i reset the code to default? I made some changes to taking input which I cant undo it seems
eulerscheZahl: without highlighting of changes
dbdr: unusual no?
AntiSquid: are you sure about silver?
Doju: There's a button in the top right corner for resetting
MadKnight: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458024431
MadKnight: nice game
AntiSquid: i think it's just the way they uploaded it
Mentalist: Found it. Thanks Doju
AntiSquid: set up the folder i mean
Skolin: @MadKnight nash equilibrium
Fosfen: @Skolin I see what you mean, so that's definitly try-able, but not optimal / most efficient
wlesavo: not having all the pacs on input is a pain
WildSmilodon: Anybody know what are the max width adn height?
Skolin: public static int MAP_MIN_WIDTH = 28;
public static int MAP_MAX_WIDTH = 33;
public static int MAP_MIN_HEIGHT = 10;
public static int MAP_MAX_HEIGHT = 15;
WildSmilodon: tnx
wlesavo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a0aee9cd-123b-4f94-ac71-6c3c6a01c696
wlesavo: 4 players?
eulerscheZahl: it's a 2 player game
eulerscheZahl: maybe they were experimenting
wlesavo: hm, this if (gameManager.getPlayerCount() == 4) is all over the code
eulerscheZahl: dead code
MindControler: Whats the max map size?
wlesavo: probably you right
eulerscheZahl: i uploaded the final game and there is no way to add a 3rd and 4th player
informathemusic: It at the top, width and height
AntiSquid: scroll up MindControler it's in visible range
informathemusic: Nvm i thoun thid up
informathemusic: public static int MAP_MIN_WIDTH = 28;
public static int MAP_MAX_WIDTH = 33;
public static int MAP_MIN_HEIGHT = 10;
public static int MAP_MAX_HEIGHT = 15;
informathemusic: *Found
informathemusic: *this
Hastings: Where are ya'll looking at the game code?
eulerscheZahl: github
eulerscheZahl: https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020
Hastings: My hero!
Uljahn: btw whats the max map size? :smirk:
eulerscheZahl: what's the max pacman size? always 1 cell big?
jrke: when will wood 1 league open
eulerscheZahl: when you beat the boss
eulerscheZahl: and bronze is available too
jrke: K
Dav1dS: why does my score say N/A in some places and a real score in other places
jrke: thanks means wood 1 is open
KobeL: Beaten the bossm ultiple times, still no rank up nor does the "ranking" seem to work 50% of the time (switches between N/A and a ranking etc)
Kacper_D: Anyone else is getting 504 error after pressing "play my code"?
informathemusic: Oh kobe u here too!
RoboStac: KobeL - you need to wait for battles in progress to get to 100% (it's very slow at the moment due to number of players)
informathemusic: You can look it up on google, i think wikipedia has an "HTTP codes" page
Mentalist: I just submitted and was ranked like 340 something but now its 300 something...does this mean the submissions are getting judged rn?
informathemusic: Yea!
eulerscheZahl: will take a while to finish
Mentalist: ok thanks :D
eulerscheZahl: everyone playing right now
Skolin: i often come up with most creative ideas on the bathroom. have one in mind now. not sure if it is a good one though :)
aCat: *a while*
aCat: Skolin wait till bronze...
Mentalist: nice to know you are in the bathroom Skolin
jrke: i beated boss various times and my rank becomes smaller than boss and then imediately changes
Skolin: sure rn i try the "always go left" and greedy pellet solver idea
Skolin: always turn left*
Hjax: @Skolin I like your carbot zergling :-)
Skolin: i like your sc2 ai :)
Mentalist: rn I have the shittiest possible logic. Go after supper pellets and if not available go after random pellets loll
Doju: Mentalist, well, mine doesn't even look for super pellets :D
Over9000: Yeah, just nearest pellet
Over9000: Where nearest is not even real distance calculated from grid
RockyMullet: I just go where I didnt go yet :P
Over9000: Just Manhattan Distance
Mentalist: tho I think I need to go for nearest pellet now, as I'm falling through the ranks xD
RockyMullet: prob enough for wood 1
RockyMullet: if I ever finish a match...
inoryy: whatever you do don't resubmit
Nanosplitter: I made that mistake...
jrke: its taking long time for 1 battle due to many players
jrke: many players
Nanosplitter: I was 12th until I resubmitted
RockyMullet: well I didnt have much hope for my previous random bot :P
Nanosplitter: Oh wait now I'm back to 15th
KobeL: mine is just stucj on "no battles available"
codingWhale: Did you make this game, eulerscheZahl?
jrke: yes when you resubmit some points are deducted then your rank becomes worse then as battle progress it comes back
baltilius: Hi, not sure to who to tell this, but default Go template have unused var and therefore error
eulerscheZahl: no. why do you think so codingWhale?
RockyMullet: euler loves fog of war, so obviously he did this
Tiberiu02: how long did it take you to evaluate your bot?
codingWhale: Because you shared the contribution with the full rules.
inoryy: lol
eulerscheZahl: i downloaded the game from github and reuploaded on CG
jrke: it will take time due to many players submitted at this time wait Tiberiu02
inoryy: I RockyMullet's version more
codingWhale: I see. :) nevermind
eulerscheZahl: because promotion is slow and i wanted to read it without that ugly HTML syntax and playable ;)
ArchilA: any ehlp with this pacman thing? how can i check if my x y is wa or not? :/
ArchilA: wall
eulerscheZahl: and my bot is stuck on 5 pacmen, i hav ea bug :/
Over9000: You get the grid before the game loop starts
jrke: heey eulerschezalh are u on wood 1
c0cainee: love when the game ends with the pacmans kissing each other
Mentalist: AAAAAAAAAA. I GOT 404 NOW
Over9000: Save it in two-dimensional array, then look up
eulerscheZahl: not yet jrke. promotion is slow
jrke: ya
VicHofs: Yo guys what is 'value' for the big pellets
RockyMullet: lol most of my games are time out
Mentalist: 19
Albeast: 10
Doju: 10
Mentalist: 10**
jrke: 10 is the value
eulerscheZahl: but i'm playing with wood1 rules right now
Over9000: 38 min, 6%
VicHofs: ty
jrke: 10
Over9000: 10 is value
RockyMullet: im pretty sure I got screwed by the laggy servers haha
ArchilA: ty
Mentalist: I can't even load the contests page now smh
RockyMullet: oh, no, I do crash a lot lol
RockyMullet: oh, the map can change size
RockyMullet: oof
RockyMullet: I did this to myself
jrke: first time i saw boss rank above 100
jrke: its 166 rank for boss
KobeL: my submission doesn't seem to use my most recent code?
_Logan_: I haven't been able to get my code to even play yet, keeps crashing on submit cuz servers are burning.
c0cainee: same happened with mine kobe
KobeL: I coded in distance related choices (that work on the local version) but the leaderboard version doesn't use those?
BenjaminUrquhart: [CG]ThibaudToday at 12:55 PM
we're adding machines
Mentalist: k bois im on 171 now. Wood 1 here come (int 2 hours)
c0cainee: there's a delay, it fixed itself after the third try
jrke: hey anybody knows how many battles we have to play
jrke: in submission
BenjaminUrquhart: depedns
Mentalist: Quick question. how can I share a game replay ?
Mentalist: because this one is hilarious
BenjaminUrquhart: replay and share icon
BenjaminUrquhart: copy link
BenjaminUrquhart: send
Mentalist: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458031919
jrke: there is share button at bottom right side
BenjaminUrquhart: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458037822
BenjaminUrquhart: ignore mine
BenjaminUrquhart: outstanding move
Doju: lol Mentalist
Albeast: briliant
Mentalist: both of our pacs refuse to back down
Nerchio: can you block pathways with your pac? i didnt check yet
Doju: Apparently you can
_Logan_: yes
Nerchio: nice
Doju: as proven by Mentalist :D
BenjaminUrquhart: once we get more pacs this is gonna get interesting
Nerchio: this will get very complicated very fast
eulerscheZahl: but you can get eaten Nerchio
Mentalist: ;D
eulerscheZahl: you can turn you pac into rock, paper, scissors
YourBestNIGHTMARE: :expressionless:frisk
mesavitae: is that the level 3 rule?
Over9000: Can others see what the pac is?
Doju: I'm still intrigued by the idea of competing neural networks but you guys reeeally seem to think it's a horrible
Nerchio: i will just code greedy algo to get to bronze hopefully :p
Mentalist: Blink is 205, and I'm 207. LETS GOOOO
kovi: i hope you surface to avoid getting eaten
Mentalist: ignore my hype this is my first contest
kovi: this time i wont start 3 days late
YourBestNIGHTMARE: ı hope you push on a lego
moidda: how to view what Im printing to std error?
Mentalist: open the console
wlesavo: kovi surface to avoid pallets
Rafal.Py: which python3 version is it? :)
wlesavo: im definetly using my mine escaping code for this
eulerscheZahl: Rafal.Py https://www.codingame.com/faq
jrke: anybody in wood 1 yet
kovi: wlesavo: nah, its reverse..you move on pellets, and surface refills the map
moidda: I started in wood 2
Rafal.Py: thx
eulerscheZahl: i'm beating wood1 boss already
jrke: wow
Over9000: It's getting faster isn't it?
jrke: means going to enter bronze
VicHofs: are commands issued through the print function?
eulerscheZahl: first few hours of a contest are always slow
VicHofs: sounds weird
jrke: yes VicHofs
VicHofs: ty
jrke: print("Your commands")
eulerscheZahl: will be much faster after the first wave of submits
jrke: eulerschezalh whats new in wood 1
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/8418077ed71a7b5a95ed0be20717ef7385050f check the rules (switch leagues at the top right)
Mentalist: another quesiton.. i beat the boss in the LB but i am not getting promoted?
jrke: and how many people are there in wood 1 presently
eulerscheZahl: wait for 100% progress Mentalist
eulerscheZahl: 0
jrke: Mentalist points are updated after sometimes wait
jrke: no one except you in wood 1
Mentalist: ah thanks! jrke, euler
eulerscheZahl: i'm not there either, submits are slow
moidda: can a pellet reappear?
jrke: K
jrke: no a pellet camn't reappear
jrke: sorry can't
ZeroByter: Well I'm at position 75 in wood league just for going to the closest pellet from my pacman, guys this is embarrasing
jrke: no
cegprakash: hey eulerscheZahl I'm streaming rn
jrke: just pass leauges
eulerscheZahl: i'm competing right now
jrke: and later improve your bot
jrke: eulerschezalh you are presently 8th
eulerscheZahl: yes?
mark7: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/11d24d46-8bda-4ee9-a401-9af9e8659085
jrke: what's this Mark 7
tobk: holy cow, coming back after ~1h my submit is at 20%
mark7: There something wrong with my path finding BFS
jrke: K
Uljahn: btw you can be disqualified for code sharing during the contest :smirk:
eulerscheZahl: classic
jrke: i suggest don't share your codes
jrke: you maybe disqualified or someone can use your codes
eulerscheZahl: or you get disqualified, someone uses it and gets disqualified too
kovi: karliso playing this time
Quidome: what's the maximum width and height?
eulerscheZahl: 3
BenjaminUrquhart: yes'
sgalasso: Hello, does anyone know if it possible to add dependencies for Rust in the ide ?
BenjaminUrquhart: not really
Quidome: no you can't
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/faq
if it's not there, you are out of luck
sgalasso: ok thanks
eulerscheZahl: 557 computing :o
eulerscheZahl: i'll come back later
struct: yeah
struct: best choice I think
kovi: closeai also
kovi: closetai
Nanosplitter: Blinky getting closer to 300
struct: +22 computing on csb
jrke: there is bug in ranking or overload
jrke: struct are you doing csb
struct: no
Waffle3z: trying to debug a timeout, adding stderr prints makes the timeout wave function collapse and not happen because it is observed
fily: hi, help how to play
jrke: read rules you will understand what to do
jrke: its easy enough
fily: trust me i did
fily: doesn't make any sence
jrke: K
VicHofs: lol
jrke: you have to eat or collect as much as pellets you can
Doju: So what type of pathfinding are you guys using? A*?
E_pur_si_muove: Agree. I doesn't make sense, but fun
Waffle3z: what doesn't make sense
jrke: and more than your opponent else you will lose
PandarinDev: When do you rank up if you're higher rank than the boss?
Quidome: does anyone know max width and height?
Nanosplitter: When your submit hits 100% PandarinDev
struct: its in the referee
jrke: yes pandarinDev
blasterpoard: 33x15
PandarinDev: Ty @Nanosplitter
fily: thanks a lot
jrke: huh! 95% battles done
Quidome: where do i find the referee?
PandarinDev: Where can you see the % of battles done?
E_pur_si_muove: where is the referee? It's not published in the description
struct: https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020
E_pur_si_muove: thx
Quidome: thnxs
Albeast: Soooooo close:
Albeast: https://www.codingame.com/replay/458050551
fily: i thought it an algorithm or coding challenge
struct: its coding challenge
struct: you code an ai
fily: what it jut take an input noting else
jrke: no you to give output also
Earthborne: wow, the syntax highlighting scheme changed!
jrke: where is Antisquid
Dasio: I would like to start spring challenge, but I'm getting "Dasio has not provided 1 lines in time"
I can't see any movement but there is "Standard Output Stream:
MOVE 0 4 12"
informathemusic: I don't get it, will those ranked better than the boss get on a better league or will those beating the boss get on a better league?
struct: ranked better
informathemusic: Btw when will be the next promotion?
struct: when the submission hits 10%
struct: 100%*
jrke: hey change line ie add \n at end dasio
Dasio: jrke Thanks!
jrke: it worked?
Dasio: yeah
Dasio: I was so frustrated how it could be so slow
Dasio: Or i though that was the problem
Dasio: thanks very much :)
jrke: K
DamianS: wrap-around can be only via left-right edge, or up-down as well?
jrke: welcome
fily: can you please simplify it
jrke: i will be promoted to wood 1 i got message
jrke: :grinning:
fily: share the fun let's play like u
PandarinDev: Battles in progress stuck at 30%
fily: and also good luck with wood 1
VicHofs: I guess I'm having trouble with info gathering
jrke: i am at wood 1:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
VicHofs: Is the info a .txt we can't see?
ArchilA: i still do not get how to check if x,y is unraechable :/
fily: am i the only one who doesn't get this
VicHofs: definitely not
fily: oh :sweat_smile:
fily: u to
VicHofs: I tried getting the information for pellets into a list but then I get a time exception
VicHofs: Is this to be expected
ArchilA: and then go to desired pellet? :O how do u even do that
VicHofs: yes
VicHofs: But I'm getting time outs and idk how to fix it
jrke: which time out
VicHofs: failed to receive 1 line
jrke: K
jrke: add \n at last of command line
jrke: means
jrke: print("Your commands\n")
jrke: it will work
VicHofs: ok I'll try that
VicHofs: ty
Deadstroy18: i dont undersand that all
jrke: what?
Deadstroy18: how to control the pacs
Doju: Hey, this is a dumb question, but anyways. So in python I like to have a "pos" class with self.x and self.y but i'd also like to have that same class act as a np.array
jrke: give commands
Doju: so i'd basically like to have the "Vector2" from Unity
jrke: MOVE PACID X Y
Doju: is that possible without a million different setters, getters and all that mess?
VicHofs: no idea @Doju
Doju: Basically i'd like to do something like this: pos1.x -pos2.x -> returns some int
informathemusic: Why am I stuck ay 69% of the battles
VicHofs: lmao
informathemusic: *stuck at 60%
jrke: doju which league are you at
VicHofs: oh that's less epic
Hastings: The interaction of numpy arrays and vectors in 2 or 3 dimensional space are numpy's curse
Hastings: it's just funamentally bad
Doju: but also pos1-pos2 -> returns instance of pos class with (pos1.x -pos2.x, pos1.y-pos2.y)
Doju: jrke i haven't submitted anything yet
jrke: so nothig to worry just make simple bot
jrke: its very easy to pass wood 1
ArchilA: i still do not get mechanics of this site :(
VicHofs: bruh I can't even get it to go to the closest pellet lmao
Doju: Okay so i just have to give in to the numpy curse and just do pos[0] and pos[1]
Doju: that's a shame
informathemusic: Please "Battles in progress " is stuck at 60%
VicHofs: it takes some time
informathemusic: Yea but like it's stuck at 60% more than it was stuck at 50 or 40
informathemusic: Nvm got it to 70%
Grudo: lol most of my wood 1 ends with both pacs stuck at trying to get the same pellet for 100 turns :D
mesavitae: same lol
aCat: :+1:
Doju: I don't have a working ai yet, but do you think it's worth it to optimize the small things like not taking sqrt of distances if possible
Nerchio: reading the input is usually harder than getting to legend
jrke: anyone at bronze yet?
aCat: nope
JarredAllen: @Doju "Premature optimization is the root of all evil"
Doju: i could implement that right now and be done with it but i think speed is not gonna be something to worry about
Waffle3z: euclidean distance doesn't make sense anyway when you can only move orthogonally
Hjax: theres currently 16 people above the wood 1 boss, but i dont think any are in bronze yet
Doju: Okay, thanks. And nice quote, JarredAllen
jrke: K
eulerscheZahl: the boss itself hasn't finished the submit
Doju: Right, true
Hjax: eulerscheZahl whyd you have to break my win streak, rude
eulerscheZahl: to promote of course
kovi: he did the same to me. but then...revenge
Hjax: i think my current bot is much better than the wood boss, so ill promote as soon as the system sorts itself out
jrke: eulerschezalh in wood 1 or bronze
eulerscheZahl: yout bot was a noob in that game. frame 10, just go down and get the big pellet
Hjax: my bot is always a noob, its just a few lines of spaghetti lol
kovi: like everyone else's
jacek: i like how 2 pacs are stuck
jacek: and bouncing each other
Doju: Manhattan distance implemented. Thanks, Waffle3z
VicHofs: do the move commands automatically wait for completion?
Skolin: anyone knows how output in higher league will look like? can i make multiple move commands separated with ; in one turn as usual?
kovi: even though i was thinking of setting up some pacman codes in advance....but was too lazy
RoboStac: separated with |, but otherwise yes
Skolin: ah
Skolin: kk
ArchilA: can some1 give me direction :/
eulerscheZahl: no manhattan either Doju. BFS distance
Grrec: @ArchilA what direction do you need, whats your experience?
Hjax: i have uploaded a slightly un-noobed version
Hjax: aka i changed a constant
Waffle3z: manhattan distance as a best case heuristic in an A* search
Doju: Oookay i've never heard of that, i'll look into it. thx, eulerscheZahl
eulerscheZahl: BFS = breadth first search
ArchilA: @Grrec it's 0 :D could not figure out how to check if desired position is reachable
eulerscheZahl: as to cells next to each other can be far away if there is a wall between
eulerscheZahl: oh, you are doing an A*, i missed that
DomiKo: https://www.codingame.com/replay/458069739
DomiKo: what are the odds
eulerscheZahl: just doing BFS from each cell in turn 1
Doju: Oh, right. For now i was just thinking of using something super simple without taking the walls into consideration
AntiSquid: what's new in wood1 ? not sure if i want to promote yet
jacek: thats a p*nis!
Doju: before i do something at least slightly more intelligent
AntiSquid: ban! Automaton2000 ban jacek
fvla: read the bottom to see
Hjax: @AntiSquid multiple pacmans
Automaton2000: we dont have a bot that has a good idea to make it possible to get the best possible
fvla: RPS pacman lmao
AntiSquid: that's it? just extra pacs ?
fvla: RPS
Hjax: thats it
fvla: pacs
Grrec: @ArchilA than if you are complete starting from 0 you can start with a simple approach like: find a random Pallet, save it and move their. If you reached it pick an other new pallet. Every Pallet is reachable and you can simple say "MOVE 0 10 12" to move their, without care about the path at the moment.
Grrec: This is my approach because im not so good as well. And I think it can give "ok" results for the start.
wlesavo: damn, so there are translations in map
AntiSquid: ok thanks Hjax
VicHofs: how the heck do u implement BFS on this thing lol
AntiSquid: with ease ?
VicHofs: -at all-
Nerchio: bfs might be expensive with multiple pacs later maybe?
ArchilA: @Grrec just moving to random coordinates makes me sometimes to be stuck. is it possible to knownearest pellet position?
BenjaminUrquhart: what if I just treat this like tron with extra steps
AllYourTorpedos: can 2 pacs end in the same cell?
fvla: no
MSmits: lol I thought I go take a shower and then my simple BFS bot will be in wood 1, but leaderboard is very busy :)
AllYourTorpedos: if they both try to move to the same square do they just not move at all?
jacek: they just bounce
AllYourTorpedos: kk
eulerscheZahl: Nerchio not if you cache it (ignoring other pecs)
AntiSquid: should have played with your rubber duck and toy waships for longer in the bath tub msontag
AntiSquid: MSmits
MSmits: yeah
jacek: msontag
Grrec: @ArchilA you could calculate the distance between each pallet and your pac. And take the nearest one. Calculation between two points should be easy. But Im wondering that you get stucked. Sure that its not simply a missing update on a new Pallet goal?
AntiSquid: too many palettes
ArchilA: @Grrec probably so, coz i do not now how to check if there is pellet nexxt to me
eulerscheZahl: palettes? do you mean pellets?
Grrec: @ArchilA there are always many ways to check this. For example when reading all pallets simply check the distance to your pac. If the distance is 1 its exactly next to you. if its 1.4 its diagonal.
struct: 1.4?
struct: What distance are you using?
qx4mX: gotta collect those pallets
qx4mX: https://imgur.com/gallery/k7cCXPg
AntiSquid: look at the message above before asking me euler
Grrec: Talking about simple coordinate distances for the start. We are at completely beginner level @struct
struct: diagonal should give distance 2 using mantham distance
LoGos: ^
Waffle3z: abs(x2-x1)+abs(y2-y1)
Grrec: Will check what mantham distance is thx
Quidome: Manhattan
struct: yeah, sorry misstype
informathemusic: I just love it
jacek: manehattan
MSmits: rules.forOfWar = false;
MSmits: in the referee
wlesavo: lol
jacek: obfuscation
MSmits: at least we know there is no fog of war then
MSmits: just for of war
Doju: Actually i don't think i need numpy arrays for this
Doju: i can use my stupid pos.x, pos.y system, yess :D
Grrec: Wow this is so slow to submitting stuff. Please dont write simpler algorythms and stay at beginner level like me, thanks ...
MSmits: Grrec it will be mostly like that right now. Rest of the week will be much more quiet
MSmits: try not to submit when you didn't make any changes
struct: even play my code is slow atm :(
Grrec: Ah, yeah i ment only "Play" not subumit.
MSmits: I don't mind. Plenty of thinking to do and maybe some coding as well. Or read the referee. No need to waste time
BenjaminUrquhart: https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/coders-strike-back/leaderboard?column=SCORE&value=INPROGRESS
BenjaminUrquhart: people submitting in bronze on csb
MSmits: oh
MSmits: promotions
VicHofs: guys I still don't really get the pellet position thing
BenjaminUrquhart: it's always csb
MSmits: it has a x and y position
MSmits: y increases downwards
VicHofs: Where is the information stored? Can I take it elsewhere i.e. a list?
MSmits: thats about it
MSmits: oh yes
MSmits: you can take it anywhere
MSmits: make a class for it, a list of pellet objects, a 2D array, whatever you want
Hjax: you read it x/y locations from stdin, and then you can do whatever you want with that info
jacek: use bitboards. ezpz
VicHofs: So if I understand this correctly there's a text file that contains this info
Doju: Is there a better way to having multiple movement logics in the same function than calling other functions with a million if else statements?
MSmits: just make sure you do read the input, that's critical. The game expects you to read exactly as much input as it tells you to. What you do with the input after, is up to you
MSmits: your process gets sent the input VicHofs
Doju: So "calculate_move("random")" or "calculate_move("closest")" for example
MSmits: you'll have to write that logic yourself
Doju: and calculate_move being: "if logic == "random": move_random() elif logic == "closest) : move_closest()
MSmits: but you can pass booleans
Doju: or something along the lines of that
MSmits: or enums
jacek: wtf is this https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/8418077ed71a7b5a95ed0be20717ef7385050f
MSmits: thats the game :P
MSmits: btw, better not post links like that here
MSmits: if there's something wrong with visibility, you dont want thousands of players to see things they are not supposed to, before it gets blocked
Joep: The play my code button doesn't work or something?
Grrec: What can I do against ""Only 1 executor running at the same time for a test session"?
MSmits: you started a game already
MSmits: with play
MSmits: it's still calculating
MSmits: cant start it again
Grrec: 10 minutes before? :(
MSmits: Grrec, just take a break until the servers get their :poop: together
MSmits: the start of a contest is like this, especially one that is hyped up as this is
dbdr: why was it more hyped?
MSmits: the video
Enknable: video?
MSmits: and it was announced during the last contest when a lot of people saw it
Thiesjoo: Hey meneer Smits!
MSmits: well visible anyway
dbdr: yeah, chain contests is a good strategy :D
MSmits: hi Thies
le_bra_james: hi
MSmits: This is one of my students, cool to see you here
MSmits: Thies that is
Thiesjoo: Just trying for the PCC team
jacek: hi!
jacek: blink twice is msmits is torturing you
MSmits: Did you manage to join the team?
Thiesjoo: I think so. My school says PCC with 7 members
MSmits: oh
MSmits: thats awesome
MSmits: I was a bit worried the game would be too hard for your classmates Thiesjoo
Astrobytes: Oh hey, your recruitment drive worked MSmits
MSmits: but I think you can do it, since you finished the Labyrinth
Thiesjoo: I also think i can do it. We have a lot of time on our hands, so we will see
MSmits: seems like it Astrobytes
Astrobytes: Good stuff!
qx4mX: in wood 1 everybody just be blocking everthing xd
wlesavo: MSmits pulled a Cat on this one
Astrobytes: :D
qx4mX: does anyone know if this will stay open even after the first week ?
Over9000: Me blocking three of my pacs in the bottom left: https://www.codingame.com/replay/458087326
Astrobytes: qx4mX Yes it will become available in multiplayer when the contest finishes
qx4mX: k ty :)
fvla: Has anyone made it to Wood 1 or Bronze yet?
FrankR: sure
qx4mX: wood 1 yes
FrankR: just takes some time
ZarthaxX: fvla https://www.codingame.com/contests/spring-challenge-2020/leaderboard/global?column=COUNTRY&value=ALL
Doju: Is there a way to turn type hints on in the ide?
Waffle3z: yeah I'm in bronze now
Over9000: wood 1
Quidome: 39 in bronze
fvla: Nice
dbdr: those collisions :D
https://www.codingame.com/replay/458097657
Hjax: silver is locked right?
fvla: These battles are slow...
dbdr: yes, no boss yet
Quidome: no ghosts then?
Hjax: there wont be any ghosts
Hastings: fvla: if you click the setting wheel in the player you can pick x2, x5, or x10 speed
fvla: i'm not talking about that lol
fvla: i'm talking about the automated battler to get me promoted
elderlybeginner: Any suggestion for a basic strategy in the contest?
struct: I guess you can do move to closest pellet in early leageus
fvla: it is suboptimal game theory to give your opponent advice
Doju: Atm I'm going for the veery basic strategy of just getting the closest pellet
eulerscheZahl: yes, gets you to bronze
VicHofs: I can't even do that lol
Quidome: oh really
Quidome: ok, I am on it :)
Doju: VicHofs, random pellet, maybe?
Doju: I tried that though, it's veeery poor
VicHofs: No I don't have any issues with the logic actually
VicHofs: I'm just having trouble extracting info
fvla: so many lulzy moments when my pac and the opponent's are just walking into each other
VicHofs: is the input() coming from a text file?
muy31: from the console
Hjax: whats the name of that runner tool people use to run test games as if through the web ui?
Hjax: to test against other peoples bots?
muy31: it's like typing in the lines
ZarthaxX: brutaltester?
Quidome: well, than everybody will be in Bronze very soon....
Jasperr: Oups An error occurred (#73): "Only 1 executor running at the same time for a test session". wth do I do now lol
ZarthaxX: or the benchmark
Hjax: ah it was the benchmark tool, thanks ZarthaxX
ZarthaxX: np
VicHofs: ok but if I call input() myself it'll read the first line always right
Qet_i: what i don't understand, is how to differentiate between coordinates of pacman (x,y) and pellet (x,y)?
dbdr: why do you want to differenciate Qet_i?
cozmo: anyone sees pac's getting "0 visible" pellets?
fvla: nope
fvla: if that happens, the game already ended
RoboStac: or you are in brozne
dbdr: cozmo it's possible in bronze I think
cozmo: Im in Wood 1
VicHofs: I keed getting "has not provided 1 lines in time"
Hoggins: that should be possible, wht no ?
cozmo: and still im getting 0 visible
perseverent: Jasper are you writing in C?
Qet_i: so i can give my pacman a goal, which to reach. or does the print always take pellet's position?
VicHofs: does the move command already have a "wait" implementation?
Doju: you need to print out the coordinates where you want your pac to move to
Csipcsirip: at least tracking performance won't be an issue this time
eulerscheZahl: no more chucknorris?
struct: you dont think performance will matter?
VicHofs: yeah I know, but what I mean is if I give it a difference move command will it stop and head the other way?
VicHofs: *different
VicHofs: or will it go there and then move on?
Csipcsirip: no :( if u end up at top30 you can't use the nickname chucknorris.
JarredAllen: Giving a move command only causes it to move one tile
VicHofs: ok thanks
JarredAllen: If you want to pathfind to a location, you need to give it a move command every turn until it gets there
VicHofs: I keep timing out though
ArchilA: how the hell do u check if u arrived and move to another location? :@
VicHofs: do an if check on your pac's location
VicHofs: and see if it matches your destination
struct: any CG staff online?
VicHofs: the algorithm is fine imo
ArchilA: and where is pac's location? when i do x and y it does NOTHING
VicHofs: but I keep timing out no matted what
VicHofs: ArchilA I'm having trouble with that too
VicHofs: but apparently it's input from the console
ArchilA: dammit, i'm going random -_-
BenjaminUrquhart: lazy
BenjaminUrquhart: I don't even have an AI yet
Erblinium: ss
perseverent: C default code has a bug
VicHofs: I can't even make it go random lmao
struct: random is bad
lNitsua: C defaults bug is just missing an fgetc
struct: your bot will just go back and forth
VicHofs: yeah ik I'm not trying tho
VicHofs: How does timing out work
VicHofs: can someone explain this pls
RoboStac: if you take longer than 50ms(1second on first turn) to print a line you timeout
fvla: i know i said that giving advice is a bad strategy
VicHofs: So basically I can't run any code before that
fvla: but please learn to BFS
moidda: I cant seem to store the position of all the pellets
RoboStac: you can run a lot of code in 50ms
VicHofs: idk what's up here then lol
VicHofs: I'm just trying to assign a list before moving
VicHofs: but it's timing out anyways
moidda: Is there any problem in storing all the pellets?
wlesavo: 230 lines in wood 2, finally ready to submit
moidda: Im getting time out for that
VicHofs: same
Doju: uhh what
Doju: im getting "invalid literal for int() with base 10: '0 0'"
struct: damn wlesavo what are you doing?
Doju: on a line with just visible_pellet_count = int(input())
MSmits: bfs seems a guaranteed bronze
struct: even with no bfs
VicHofs: how do u implement bfs tho
Over9000: woooo bronze
eulerscheZahl: you copy it from your ocean of code bot
fvla: if you don't know that, go through the puzzles
moidda: Theres something called GOOGLE.
MSmits: it's the most common pathfinding search algorithm. It's very easy VicHofs, you can google it
moidda: Why ask how to implement BFS
VicHofs: I've heard of A* lol
MSmits: A* is actually much harder
RustyCrown: how to make text appear above a pac?
wlesavo: struct same pathfinding i used i ooc, it just seems to be easy to tune afterwards
Doju: I think A* is BFS but a bit fancier, right?
MSmits: yes, it's fancier
Doju: or a lot fancier, right
MSmits: and requires thinking
VicHofs: wait so it's harder?
VicHofs: wth
MSmits: not a lot fancier
MSmits: A* is harder
MSmits: bfs is super easy
struct: RustyCrown you print(MOVE id x y MSG)
VicHofs: ok so I should be able to figure this out
VicHofs: ty
Doju: afaik BFS is just looking at every possible path you can take
MSmits: can do in a few lines. Most work is getting the neighbors with if statements
lNitsua: it pretty much just adds a priority queue to check. I think technically this only uses dijkstra because every movement is 1
Mentalist: hmm. random number of pacs this is gonna be funny
Doju: and A* actually applies some logic to it
lNitsua: so you just incorporate how far you will be from your target
Mentalist: In bronze, everything is unlocked, right?
MSmits: yes
struct: ye
MSmits: which is a lot i feel. They could have done with another wood :)
Mentalist: good, because i dont want my code to go to waste
struct: bronze will be big this time
RustyCrown: struct thanks!
Nerchio: i feel like i am too dumb to do efficient bfs
MSmits: yeah very different from ooc
moidda: Anyone facing problem storing the coordinates of pellets?
MSmits: I dont often get bronze in 3 hrs
Doju: argh, i still keep doing "if x = True" even though i've been coding for some months now
ZarthaxX: struct ruined my streak
tobk: is there fog of war in higher leagues?
struct: get rekt ZarthaxX
struct: ezpz
struct: fix it
Doju: (as opposed to "if x == True")
aCat: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636859567568846849/708022761884352532/SpringChallenge2020-RULES.jpg
RoboStac: tobk - yes, you can only see pellets / enemies in a straight line
aCat: bronze rules in readable format if anyone want to peek
eulerscheZahl: why did you make screenshots aCat?
jacek: spoiler alert!
moidda: What is the constraint for width and height?
aCat: to have outside cg visible format
tobk: thanks, was asking because it's not mentioned in "whats in store in higher leagues"
eulerscheZahl: but now the text isn't copy-pasteable anymore
struct: public static int MAP_MIN_WIDTH = 28;
public static int MAP_MAX_WIDTH = 33;
public static int MAP_MIN_HEIGHT = 10;
public static int MAP_MAX_HEIGHT = 15;
eulerscheZahl: and saving text as a jpeg, absolutely barbaric
aCat: :*
tobk: but you still know where all the opp pacs are, right?
RoboStac: nope
eulerscheZahl: only if they are in line of sight
Hastings: I've never used java before: is there a quick guide to compiling and running https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020/ ?
RoboStac: you don't know what type they are either unless you can see them
lNitsua: javac "filename.java" then java "filename" pretty sure
eulerscheZahl: clone repo, import maven project in eclipse/intelliJ
jacek: Hastings the faster would be to use intellij idea
eulerscheZahl: it's not a simple javac
ArchilA: is it impossible to know that i arrived at x,y ?
RoboStac: you get your pacmans coordinates every turn
dbdr: did Waffle3z adapt his profile pic to the challenge, or it was already like that?
VicHofs: no just check your pac locaction
eulerscheZahl: adapt
eulerscheZahl: well done
dbdr: yes!
ArchilA: i know, but i'm unable to do if x == something and so on
VicHofs: how do I mention someone in the chat
eulerscheZahl: VicHofs
eulerscheZahl: type the name
RoboStac: you need to store them in some way - it loops round all the pacmans reading them in 1 by 1
ArchilA: @name
VicHofs: its cause the x for your pacman isnt a global variable
Hastings: Thanks a ton!
VicHofs: its not just auto set
eulerscheZahl: actually type the first few letters and then hit the tab key
VicHofs: oh ty
VicHofs: eulerscheZahl
solaimanope: in competitive programming C++ is preferred more than Java since Java takes more execution time
Has anyone faced problems because of this?
ArchilA: if x == 1 and y ==1 does nothing -_- can someone tell me why?
VicHofs: they're not global auto set variables ArchilA
VicHofs: you have to set them as something
tobk: in case you want o visualize your heatmap (assuming you are using such a thing) PGM format is really nice
Quidome: execution is not a problem in my opinion, garbage collect can be an issue
ArchilA: u man 1's? i did, still nothing...
ArchilA: does visible pellet count not go to 0 after some1 takes the pellet?
VicHofs: I can't share actual code, but you have to use the x and y for something before they are redefined for the pellets
VicHofs: ArchilA
Quidome: almost 1000 players submitted :)
AntiSquid: do i need to output the pacman commands in a particular order? i mean i output id, so am wonder if i can just do it any order i want
cmr624: what do u do when u move ur guy to a location but he doesnt move
AntiSquid: wondering *
AntiSquid: blackmail him cmr624
cmr624: blackmail him??
struct: Ok, if anyone is wonder
cmr624: hes just being disobedient
Over9000: Nice, all my pacs blocking each other: https://www.codingame.com/replay/458107120
struct: You can see from one side of the map to the other
struct: ffrom the hole
ArchilA: wow, i just randomly did a code :O but my pac is too stupid :(
AntiSquid: so it's a peeping tom hole !
MSmits: you get more pacs in wood 1 ArchilA, maybe one of the others will be smarter
Jasperr: anyone else having problems with "Play my code" occasionally timing out in an HTTP 504? or am i alone here?
AntiSquid: but does the order of your pacs commands matter?
VicHofs: yes
VicHofs: It's a while loop tho
AntiSquid: Jasperr mine does too, and i don't know why has nothing to do with the code that's for sure :p
Jasperr: good to hear xD
KobeL: AntiSquid, there's some other shenanigans going on with the competition but according to Thibaud they are working on it
tobk: are there more pellet values than 1 and 10?
LoganWlv: @tobk nop
Doju: Ooohh okay now i see why you don't do manhattan distance
tobk: then I know what to do with speedboost :-)
Doju: in addition to being very inefficient it gets you stuck
Mentalist: This is highly ambitious, but anyone know where I could find the resources to make something like this myself? Not the site, but a game that works like this PvP code.. I have experience in 2-3 game engines
lNitsua: pretty sure they provide the source code in a github somewhere
lNitsua: you could peruse that and get an Idea of what's done
Mentalist: Yeah, they give out github links to hte source
Mentalist: ill look into it
Mentalist: thanks INitsua
Doju: Ooh some really advanced AIs could try to deduce which strategy the opponent is using
Doju: This is quite interesting
KobeL: True doju, but runtime on those might be too slow if they have big pacman counts (not sure if they do, haven't checked)
Doju: lol i stumbled into someone who uses the exact same strategy
Doju: i think
KobeL: Very possible
Doju: This is so damn fun. Why haven't i participated in these before?
lNitsua: you've been missing out then. I'm garbage and love them
lNitsua: the last one has been my favorite. Then I think LoC was the next best.
KobeL: Yea first one for me too, loving it so far
BJTrumpet: First real challenge for me too
BJTrumpet: just got into Bronze, this is exciting
Ken_Fool: My first Challenge too, im rly excited looks like fun. GL to all
VicHofs: wth I'm getting this with python on the default code
VicHofs: ValueError: too many values to unpack (expected 2)
at Answer.py. in <module> on line 14
wlesavo: pebpac
Doju: That's odd
BJTrumpet: did you accidentally delete an input variable?
Doju: Maybeee.. you have commented out a line with input()?
VicHofs: nope
BJTrumpet: should have my_score, opponent_score
VicHofs: yeah
RoboStac: the defaults working for me - are you sure you've made no modifications?
VicHofs: yep
RoboStac: (you can reset with a button in the top right)
VicHofs: Imma reset again then I guess
BJTrumpet: honestly, copy/paste into an IDE and reset the code
BJTrumpet: there's width/height input, row input, then score input
Doju: Oh, do I need to beat Blinky to climb the rank?
Over9000: yeah
rwilson: Doju - technically, no. Blinky could beat you 100% of the time. But if you have a better win % in the arena than him, then youll promote.
Over9000: yeah, beat him on the leaderboard, not in the game
Doju: Ah, alright. So I need to beat him in the rankings and not directly
Doju: that makes sense
Doju: thanks
Hjax: yeah if you finish your calibration games and you are ranked above the boss, you will promote
MaxCompteTest: I wasn't expecting my simple bot to stay first that long
[CG]Maxime: ooops, wrong account :)
Hastings: We're trying, Maxime
VicHofs: woah I just whooped Blinky's ass lmao
VicHofs: 69 pellets lmao
Doju: Oh well I just got an evil idea
Doju: A bit difficult to implement but a brilliant one :P
VicHofs: My next goal is to get 420 pellets
Csipcsirip: haha funny drug number
Doju: I wonder if it'd be feasible to calculate maybee... a million? paths in the first second
VicHofs: funny drug number go woosh
informathemusic: Kobe , hows it going!
moidda: Submitted my code and won/lost some battles. How do I level up?
Doju: You need to beat the boss in the rankings
moidda: the one ranked 1?
Doju: No, the one highlighted
Doju: Blinky in the first ladder
VicHofs: blinky
Doju: Not sure if the name changes in the other ones
Doju: Because i'm still a noob and stuck here :P
moidda: Its still blinky :v
VicHofs: wait wth tho
cegprakash: it's Pinky in wood1
jacek: pie?
VicHofs: you only move up in 16 hours??
moidda: But I did defeat one blinky
VicHofs: It's not defeating moidda
Doju: Noo, it's in like a few minutes
VicHofs: u gotta beat him in the rankings
VicHofs: oh ok amen Doju ty
VicHofs: can you drop back down?
JarredAllen: I don't think you can drop down
VicHofs: ok cool JarredAllen thanks
moidda: Im in wood2. How many blinkys do I defeat to reach boss?
Dinca: am I the only one who can't the test spring challenge?
Dinca: I just press play and it doesn't start....and then I get network error
JarredAllen: @moidda You hit submit, and then you have to defeat more league participants than the boss to move in
Waffle3z: blinky is the wood2 boss. if you're ranked higher than it then you get promoted
JarredAllen: @Dinca I'm not getting any network errors
JarredAllen: So I think that's something unique to you
Dinca: ok...let's see what I can do
moidda: @Waffle3z Im ranked above BLINKY still in wood2. Sorry for bothering its my first time
perseverent: the default works?
Waffle3z: you'll be promoted once your battles in progress reaches 100%
perseverent: just wait
moidda: Ow. THanks
JasperV: how do some companies get their logo there?
VicHofs: heck yuss Wood 1
VicHofs: Pinky's going down
VicHofs: are the visible pellets shared globally or ate they visible for each pac?
VicHofs: *are
[CG]Maxime: globally for all your pacs, you have a single program to control all your pacs at the same time
VicHofs: okeydokey
VicHofs: ty
Hastings: I'm on a maven adventure!
moidda: Promoted to wood1. Thanks to people answering my questions
GlitchyByte: Hello fellow gam... I mean coders!
VicHofs: same dif
angauber: what do you guys use to get the closest pellte, a* seems kinda bloated for 200 pellets
muy31: math.hypot
Waffle3z: bfs is good enough
muy31: i guess
rcar: manhattan distance. walls aren't real
muy31: yes
angauber: what ? you can go through walls ?
BenjaminUrquhart: my top tier AI:
BenjaminUrquhart: public Command getCommandFor(Pacman pac) {
return Command.MOVE(pac.getLocation());
}
rcar: no, just being dumb. manhattan distance ignoring walls works ok through wood tiers though
ZeroByter: in wood tier my ships are constantly getting stuck against each other
VicHofs: your... ships?
muy31: lol
ZeroByter: ah wait this isnt halite, i meant pacs
ZeroByter: pacmans
VicHofs: it happens
ZeroByter: thingies
VicHofs: write code to deal with that scenario
ZeroByter: lol good idea i hadn't thought of that
VicHofs: -_-
Over9000: Everybody getting stuck before round 50/200: https://www.codingame.com/replay/458136238
VicHofs: just... ok?
angauber: replace the enemies witha wall character in the map maybe ?
ZeroByter: yeh im trying to write some a* code to get pathfinding to where i wanna go but am a noob at a*, never used it before so it's not working yet, but im on the case
cooljoseph: What is the sight radius?
BenjaminUrquhart: line of sight
VicHofs: maybe trying BFS might be better ZeroByter
ZeroByter: there is no fog of war
ZeroByter: k ill look into it
RoboStac: there is fog of war in bronze
VicHofs: I think you might waste too much time with A* but idk
ZeroByter: oh crap
elderlybeginner: ranking battles seems to work slow
Archibaldo: Is bronze the highest league right now?
VicHofs: they are elderlybeginner
AllYourTorpedos: is anyone else constantly getting 0,0 for the scores instead of the scores displayed in the game?
VicHofs: yes Archibaldo
angauber: ZeroByter yeah a* with 200 pellets.. it's gonna take some time
elderlybeginner: is it sever performance, code weakness or too many players at once sending code?
VicHofs: idk
VicHofs: you'd have to get a mod for that
BenjaminUrquhart: the first and the last
nathanfranke: Who else is putting random changing text for above the pac men
Waffle3z: what's the command to do that
Doju: You just add it after the move coords
Doju: example: print(f"MOVE {pac.id} {x} {y} {x} {y}") displays the x and y coords
Over9000: Am I blind or is this undocumented?
Waffle3z: MSG is a command in the source, where does it write to
angauber: It's now, in debug section
angauber: over9k
Over9000: Ah I see there it says it
VicHofs: guys my stdout is showing my commands spearated by "|" but I'm timing out
VicHofs: as if the commands aren't working
VicHofs: what's up with that
RoboStac: are you putting the newline on the end?
VicHofs: i feel dumb now
VicHofs: ty
Denebil: Or | at the end
struct: | at end is fine
VicHofs: actually no nvm not working lol
AllYourTorpedos: what are the scores read in from stdin? they aren't matching the scores at the top in the replay
VicHofs: the commands are properly separated by | in the stdout it's just not going
RoboStac: share a replay?
VicHofs: from mine?
angauber: when you timeout your don't see any of your prints I think
RoboStac: yeah
VicHofs: sure thing
Jasperr: is cin.ignore() in C++ necessary?
VicHofs: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458174425
janquo: can others see text over our pac?
Jasperr: My code seems to fail 50/50 without it
struct: Now that you mention it AllYourTorpedos I dont know :thinking:
angauber: janquo yes in replays
struct: Maybe it was for lower leagues?
AntiSquid: it's for the input JasperV,
aCat: janquo yes when watching the game
GlitchyByte: Anybody knows what version of Java is this?
AllYourTorpedos: @struct yeah idk
Jasperr: ty
JasperV: @AntiSquid to what is this a response? :P
VicHofs: MOVE 0 11 10|MOVE 1 25 2|MOVE 2 12 1
Game Summary:
VicHofs has not provided 1 lines in time
AllYourTorpedos: i haven't even submitted a bot yet, so just messing around in the editor and the scores are always 0,0
VicHofs: this is what I'm getting, is it properly formatted?
AntiSquid: too many jaspers JasperV
RoboStac: the replay doesn't show anything in stdout
Jasperr: Yea I realized
VicHofs: the text is going out into stdout but no commands are being issued
RoboStac: thats what the other player output in that replay VicHofs
VicHofs: yeah ik RoboStac
VicHofs: oh ok
VicHofs: my bad dude
RoboStac: theres nothing in the red section
VicHofs: wait is it though?
VicHofs: because the numbers don't match
VicHofs: i.e. the stdout says 11 10, but Pinky's pac 0 moves to 21, 6
ShannonNorris97: In the contest, once you've submitted do you just leave it and it will battle people on its own?
struct: int playerScore = player.getScore();
int opponentScore = gameManager.getActivePlayers().get((player.getIndex() + 1) % 2).getScore();
lines.add(String.format("%d %d", playerScore, opponentScore));
VicHofs: yep ShannonNorris97
RoboStac: thats the closest square to 11,10
struct: I think its bugged
struct: RoboStac have you seen this?
ShannonNorris97: Ah sweet, thanks @VicHofs
struct: The score always gives 0
VicHofs: oh ok got it RoboStac
VicHofs: idk what's going on tho
AntiSquid: why are the submits too fast?
Over9000: Are you doing very complex stuff? Maybe it's really a timeout? Like A* to 200 pellets?
angauber: it's 50 ms per turn
angauber: gotta go fast
struct: AllYourTorpedos seems like they never update the value that getScore() returns
struct: This might be a bug
struct: They update it one time only
struct: and is on endGame
struct: onEnd()
AntiSquid: :thumbsup:
Over9000: I can never estimate what I can calculate in 50ms (or any time)
struct: The getScore() returns a different value from pellets eaten
AllYourTorpedos: ahhh gotcha
AllYourTorpedos: okay
struct: This probably will get fixed
AllYourTorpedos: oh
janquo: Do the time of computing your battles depend on how many times you've made submission already?
struct: if they intend to give the value
AllYourTorpedos: so we'll have to keep track of pellets eaten ourselves
AntiSquid: janquo i'ts the cg server
struct: at least for now
AntiSquid: everything is slow atm
struct: But from what I read in the statement
struct: they want to give
struct: Maybe they just forgot
ArchilA: why my pac's do not move together? :O
AntiSquid: report bug on forums
struct: ok
angauber: struct what's that function you are talking about ?
struct: Which one angauber?
Jasperr: It seems like when I use cin.ignore() I no longer get HTTP 504's lol
angauber: getScore()
Jasperr: maybe its luck tho
struct: getScore()( is a function from SDK
AntiSquid: i guess there's no rush to get bronze today, submit will last an eternity either way
KobeL: Agreed antisquid! + leaderboards open up in 3 days+ anyway so plenty of time
angauber: sdk ? don't you need to read from stdin ?
AntiSquid: 3 days KobeL? did you mean silver?
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/contests/spring-challenge-2020/leaderboard here's the leaderboard if you can't find it btw
Over9000: angauber That's the driver code
Over9000: Not what you get to see
angauber: Oh I see
romrd468: Hi, with CSB what is the optimal times for speed other than straights
ArchilA: any advice why my pac's do not move together? what kind of print do they want :/
Over9000: | separated
KobeL: AntiSquid yea I mean silver etc, aka rushing bronze doesn't have any perks since you'll be stuck anyway
Over9000: MOVE 1 2 3|MOVE 2 27 3
SamuelTheBad: Check the output for your opponent, needs to be seperated by | instead of ending a line for each move
KobeL: Might as well just wait for everything to calm down
VicHofs: is our code manually evaluated at the end?
ArchilA: oh, thank you
BenjaminUrquhart: VicHofs no
ZeroByter: got a* workin gyay
VicHofs: hmm
romrd468: with CSB what is the optimal times for speed other than straights
VicHofs: any mods on?
AntiSquid: "calm down" and hide till legend KobeL :p
ArchilA: @Pver9000 unsupported operand type(s) for |: 'str' and 'str' ;(
VicHofs: you probably put it without quotes
VicHofs: ArchilA
VicHofs: can u check that
angauber: you ca only concatenate variables that have the same type
romrd468: with CSB what is the optimal times for speed other than straights????
ArchilA: i have variables so no quotes there :/
JarredAllen: @ArchilA You're trying to bitwise-or strings
JarredAllen: I think that's your issue
VicHofs: so probably what angauber said
AntiSquid: you already aske romrd468 everyone is busy playing the contest
Over9000: ... +'|'+ ...
Over9000: not: ... | ...
cguzman: any help, two double variables, I do : a / b and always get zero as result.
ArchilA: oh
Over9000: language?
cguzman: java
angauber: are you casting the result ?
VicHofs: ArchilA looking into string formatting docs could help too
VicHofs: what language are u using
AntiSquid: see spring challenge 2020 https://www.codingame.com/contests/spring-challenge-2020 romrd468
ArchilA: python
angauber: VicHofs python I guess
ArchilA: i have not even finished and it's sending me to submit -_- wtf
Nerchio: damn wood2 is so hard in pac
cguzman: angauber, no.
ArchilA: whatever
VicHofs: https://docs.python.org/3.4/library/string.html check this out it might help ArchilA
VicHofs: AntiSquid you're a mod here right?
angauber: cguzman ?
cguzman: I just have return a / b;
cguzman: and I got always zero
ArchilA: @VicHofs tomorrow, too sleepy :/ thx anyway
angauber: then how do you know it;s 0 ?
cguzman: a = 1 ; b = 2;
VicHofs: might be an issue with your vars cguzman
AntiSquid: yes VicHofs why?
cguzman: because I print the result
angauber: never wrote a line of java but a and b looks like integers
VicHofs: AntiSquid is the boss code supposed to be public
Quidome: int 1 / int 2 is zero indeed\
cguzman: they are double
Ken_Fool: mb integer division cguzman
AntiSquid: nothing to do with me vihofs, i just moderate chat
VicHofs: because it is and you could just copy it and maybe get to bronze lol
cguzman: 0,5 no?
AntiSquid: and it's wood boss so who cares?
VicHofs: is that a disclassifiable offense?
SamuelTheBad: i mean, it does say not to copy code, don't see how that's different
cguzman: ok, I will check ... very strange
Doju: I feel like this is a fundamental flaw in my thinking. I need to pass the instance as a parameter in a method. Is that bad?
Quidome: return value also double?
AntiSquid: well not that i know of, but it's a wood boss so eh ? VicHofs
cguzman: yes
AntiSquid: you can get better bots copied from streams if you want to copy somethin stronger VicHofs
VicHofs: yeah good point what I mean is I would recommend anyone having issues getting started to check it out if that's okay AntiSquid
Ken_Fool: if you divide double by int you get the int division and that result parsed to double, afaik
VicHofs: I don't wanna copy
VicHofs: just saying
AntiSquid: you could just read it
VicHofs: Doju how'd u even get to that?
VicHofs: are you passing an instance as a class attribute or somethign
VicHofs: *something
MindControler: I need help: im coding with c++, what is probably my mistake if i get few turns cerr output in one turn?
Doju: VicHofs so, I'm trying to tackle some primitive method of pathfinding by myself without looking it up
Doju: I have a Grid class that has a bunch of Cell classes
MSmits: hmm it is not entirely clear from the description whether a pac can both speed and move on the same turn
Doju: the Cell class has a method called get_neighbours(grid)
MSmits: I assume you need to choose
Nerchio: poor wood2 bot
Nerchio: getting smashed
Nerchio: 23 place :D
aCat: MSmits you can't
MSmits: allright
Over9000: Well, that's the purpose of its existence, nerchio ...
Doju: And the Grid class hass a method where I call cell.get_neighbours
struct: acat are these people from your uni your students?
aCat: Nerchio he was below 120 hour after the contest started
MSmits: what if you have speed 2 and you want your pac to move into a corner and end in the same place it started at. Is that possible?
Nerchio: over9000 i know i just feel bad for it :(
Doju: so I need to pass the grid instance to the method
aCat: most of them
Hastings: MIndController are you appending std::endl to your debuggin lines? if not then it micht not be getting flushed in time
aCat: some current students, some past students
Over9000: Isn't stderr usually unbuffered?
struct: MSmits I dont think you can make 2 different moves
VicHofs: hm
MSmits: no, but you can move two cells
MSmits: so you cant move back and forth doing this
aCat: yep you cant
VicHofs: Doju I think I know what u mean but can't u just index them in some way inside Grid
aCat: and when crossing junction youre not seing what was there
MSmits: bit annoying, you waste a speed turn getting to a dead end
struct: but you get 5 turns of speed
struct: iirc
AntiSquid: are submits supposed to finish before i die of old age?
VicHofs: like an array with Cells
Doju: I guess I could but that'd make the Cell method super messy
Doju: i mean the get_neighbours method
VicHofs: you mentioned using numpy earlier, did u try that?
VicHofs: inside Grid
cegprakash: is it possible to print messages for each PAC?
VicHofs: yes
cegprakash: how
aCat: after command befeore |
VicHofs: cegprakash just append the message to the end of each respective pac command
Over9000: append to commands
cegprakash: cool
wlesavo: the horde of pacs shouting mudamuda is comming
Nerchio: haha
VicHofs: like this: "MOVE 1 21 53 smoke weed everyday"
VicHofs: cegprakash
JohnEnitnatsnoc: i want fucking editorials
JohnEnitnatsnoc: for
JohnEnitnatsnoc: clash of code
Astrobytes: no AntiSquid :P
btw, love the new avatar! :clap:
Doju: VicHofs umm i'm not quite sure how indexing or arrays would help
JohnEnitnatsnoc: how should people learn
VicHofs: wlesavo thanks for the idea
cegprakash: I don't care about getting to bronze.. I just want to talk
VicHofs: I'm stealing it
AntiSquid: Astrobytes pacman nebula
MSmits: and sing cegprakash
MSmits: do your celine dion on twitch
VicHofs: Doju idk I'm out of ideas
Peudoki: if I exit the submit screen, is it still submitted or do I have to resubmit?
SilverBlade: 2 pac
VicHofs: hadn't u implemented BFS before tho? Doju
cegprakash: I'm tired after a long stream MSmits
Astrobytes: AntiSquid I know, NGC 281, that's why I like it
MSmits: ahh ok
struct: Peudoki it still rns
struct: runs*
cegprakash: I just want to chill now
struct: you can even close browser
cegprakash: add some cool messages
cegprakash: instead of adding logics
struct: after you press submit it will play matches until it gets 100%
Doju: VicHofs no, I just had manhattan distance and it reeally doesn't work
AntiSquid: how do you know Astrobytes are you a stargazer?
VicHofs: right that's what I figured
VicHofs: I was trying to run BFS but I can't get it either
VicHofs: if I find a good resource I'll link ta
VicHofs: *ya
Astrobytes: AntiSquid used to be, not really into it so much now but I still have an interest
Doju: Actually you know what? I think what i'm doing is fine as long as it doesn't throw an error
Doju: aight thanks
ZeroByter: Just got into bronze and legit gotta implement rock paper scissors logic kill me now
Hjax: whats wrong with rock paper scissors logic?
ZeroByter: Nothing really, just kinda complex
ArchilA: rofl https://www.codingame.com/replay/458206159
MSmits: don't post your pac-orgies, no 18+ stuff please
ArchilA: :(
ZeroByter: :wink:
Astrobytes: PacBang
angauber: is there a hole in the rock paper sissors game LUL
Hjax: that sounds kind of pacaphobic MSmits :P
MSmits: sorry, it's not very modern of me
Astrobytes: Pacist
ZeroByter: Yeah MSmits, something you wanna share?
MSmits: lol Astrobytes
Hjax: so when will legend open? friday of next week?
cooljoseph: Really, this whole game amounts to solving a poisson equation
AntiSquid: pacman rule 34?
Astrobytes: lol
MSmits: can pacs see through wrapped cells?>
Nerchio: this game should be 18+
Doju: Okayyy I'm starting to get to the point where I have absolutely no idea what's happening in my code anymore. Sooo, 200 lines in
Nerchio: https://www.codingame.com/replay/458212330
ArchilA: lol
struct: Is it me or do games seem too fast?
Hjax: too fast?
Ken_Fool: ^^ that is some party there
struct: sub 30 turns
ZeroByter: Yeah why do some games end before turn 200 and no error?
Over9000: If you have more than half of pellets
Nerchio: because there is too few points on the map
BenjaminUrquhart: ^
ZeroByter: Ah
ZeroByter: Makes sense
Ken_Fool: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/6ef28d46-f040-45cf-ba1a-29b9ec3801c9
ZeroByter: iAmSpEeD
ArchilA: i do not even hope to pass bronze league :(
Astrobytes: Aim high ArchilA, try your best and you may be surprised what you can accomplish
PiterYeh: Hi!
MSmits: pass into or, pass to silver?
Ken_Fool: get something doing something and that is an accomplishment
Ken_Fool: i do not expect to get anything working but i enjoy myself failing
PiterYeh: Does anybody know if there is a firefox extension to sync my local soiurce file with the codingame editor?
ArchilA: @Astrobytes no time for it during day. just fwew hours at night... time to sleep :D
PiterYeh: i remember there was something like that for Chrome
SamuelTheBad: PiterYeh https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/cg-local/10359
ZeroByter: Im using that Chrome extension right now
PiterYeh: SamuelTheBad Thank you :)
SamuelTheBad: I'm in the web IDE and it seems to be stuck on a simple if evaluation... maybe I should move over
solistice: what do you mean "stuck on"?
SamuelTheBad: I have debug statements before and after the if, it reaches before but never the after, nor the block after the if statement
Hjax: web ide executes code fine
SamuelTheBad: and the if statement amounts to if(1 && (0 < (0 - 1)))
Hjax: its just a pain to develop in
SamuelTheBad: >, not <
ArchilA: erm, how do use these switch and speed things?
GreatTux: Q> is the pellet removed from the frame input once eaten by a pac ? Or do I have to figure it out ?
Hjax: yes you wont get the same pellet in the data next frame
GreatTux: thanks
cegprakash: wait wuut x is columns and y is rows?
AntiSquid: how to activate SILENCE on my pacmen ? Automaton2000
Automaton2000: is this chat for the first turn
MSmits: Game Summary:
Only pacs with the SPEED ability enabled can move:
MSmits: i dont understand this one
Astrobytes: You need a BitStream and -3 * vel
AntiSquid: it's part of the puzzle MSmits, figure it out yourself, stop asking others
AntiSquid: duh
MSmits: :fist:
AntiSquid: (idk either, too confusing wording)
Astrobytes: :d
wlesavo: MSmits replay?
Over9000: :vulcan:
MSmits: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458220333
MSmits: right at the start
Nerchio: damn your game looks different than mine
Hjax: @MSmits that just means at least one pac (on either team) isnt using speed
ArchilA: so , how the hell do i use switch and speed things?
AntiSquid: yes
MSmits: ok but why dont my pacs move
cegprakash: use "MOVE" MSmits
cegprakash: this is how ppl will troll me
Hjax: where are they trying to go?
cegprakash: I'm not trolling u though
MSmits: rightly so cegprakash :P
wlesavo: MSmits its the recap of the second part of the turn
MSmits: oh
Hjax: you have to move someone 2 places away, because you only get 1 move command for your 2 "turns"
Nerchio:
Hjax: somewhere8
MSmits: am i giving them a 1 move command?
MSmits: when they could move two?
wlesavo: yes
MSmits: silly
wlesavo: they moveone or two steps on the path you printed
Hjax: i dont really know what you are doing, they seem to stop and go randomly
MSmits: yeah
MSmits: I am messing up somehow
Hjax: i found printing out their target square above their heads to be very useful
MSmits: good idea
MSmits: thanks
BenjaminUrquhart: let me guess, text after the command?
Hjax: yep ben
AntiSquid: i have a more useful use for the pacman msg
Nerchio: starts with M
SamuelTheBad: "wokka wokka"
Doju: Oh what? I just randomly got into the next league
BenjaminUrquhart: so "M id Message"
BenjaminUrquhart: ?
Hjax: my move commands just look like
Hjax: MOVE x y x y
Hjax: er
Hjax: move id x y x y
BenjaminUrquhart: ah
BenjaminUrquhart: found the edge case
v
BenjaminUrquhart: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458231720
tg44: gosh I hate these rules... playing with a jvm lanng has huge throwbacks... random gc kicks, slow jvm warmup, tha 50ms resp time is super low
BenjaminUrquhart: this is why everyone uses C++
MSmits: umm you must be doing something wrong if you are doing the contest tg44
MSmits: you shouldnt need any gc at this point
BenjaminUrquhart: btw the referee warms up the jvm for you
MSmits: unless you already wrote a massive search
Nerchio: so in bronze you don't get updates for pacs you don't see anymore right?
SamuelTheBad: yeah, they don't appear in the list
AntiSquid: and i thought OOC was bad
wlesavo: lol
Nerchio: but their id is the same?
wlesavo: track the pac
MSmits: yes
MSmits: id shouldn't change
SamuelTheBad: same for any pacs you lose as well, which is turning out to be the bigger pain
Nerchio: ah so i can see pac id4
LelouchVC2: Is the pac worth doing solo?
Nerchio: kk
wlesavo: ids for pacs just range(pac_count) at first turn
tg44: I generate a pack-dist-value trio for every field, which is sometimes 1ms, sometimes 14 for the same scenario (for one pac, so if I get 5 its easily goes out of the 50ms)
BenjaminUrquhart: wood 1 on first legit submit, should also get me close to bronze
BenjaminUrquhart: but only because I designed my system with multiple packs in mind
BenjaminUrquhart: pcs*
BenjaminUrquhart: pacs*
BenjaminUrquhart: !
wlesavo: and with enemy tracker
BenjaminUrquhart: I didn't make an enemy tracker yet
Nerchio: enemy tracker nooooooooooooooooo
kovi: and still no torpedo?
MSmits: will we be able to throw lightning and use the speed force to phase through walls in silver?
SamuelTheBad: so long as you've put enough levels in faith, yes
MSmits: mm k
wlesavo: MSmits at least in this game you can actualy teleport
MSmits: lol right
MSmits: btw i know what my bug was
MSmits: i was doing 2 BFS. Move to one cell and then move right back where i started. Thats why they froze
Astrobytes: Teleporting again? :P
Astrobytes: ah
AntiSquid: fixed messages : https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458243839
now i am ready to start coding
MSmits: what are you using so much calc time for
AntiSquid: check taget destination MSmits
AntiSquid: funny you fell for it
MSmits: check to see if is blocked by pacs?
MSmits: of course I did
Doju: Apparently you don't need to have a very good algorithm to beat Pinky
MSmits: nah
MSmits: I beat him easily with a "get nearest pellet" bfs
MSmits: no brainer bot
AntiSquid: i don't have any algo, not even bfs
AntiSquid: bronze with just go to nearest
MSmits: oh you just loop over all pellets and set it as destination?
MSmits: manhattan?
wlesavo: i got bronze without any distance calculations
Doju: that's what i'm doing currently
AntiSquid: well the wood wasn't complicated so no need for stronger bosses to give time to code rules
Doju: MSmits
MSmits: ah ok
MSmits: that seems more work than bfs :)
icecream17: just starting so much
AntiSquid: i guess you can just pick a pellet at random really bosses are exact opposite of OOC
MSmits: might be
BenjaminUrquhart: ok, I'm in bronze, time for everything to break
MSmits: dont think it'll break
rcar: bronze is not very different from wood1
MSmits: you will just not use speed
MSmits: also you will have your pacs scissored, rocked and papered
SamuelTheBad: mine broke when my pacs started dying, but I've probably done it weird
BenjaminUrquhart: what happens if I try to command a dead pac
SamuelTheBad: you lose instantly
BenjaminUrquhart: cool
MSmits: it might not appear in your list BenjaminUrquhart
MSmits: if it is dead
BenjaminUrquhart: I cache them though
AntiSquid: lots of things can break in bronze
LelouchVC2: Is the pac worth doing solo :((
BenjaminUrquhart: to prevent creating new objects
AntiSquid: pacs die, you suffer from bloody fog
AntiSquid: and so on
MSmits: BenjaminUrquhart then cache them as being dead and don't give them orders
cegprakash: Bronze here I come
MSmits: at the beginning of your turn set all pacs dead and only set them alive if they are in the list
icecream17: where is the game protocol section
tg44: hmm I changed sets to lists annd some lines went from 6ms to 0.03ms :(
MSmits: sets are bad to loop over
LelouchVC2: alright then
cegprakash: oh no fog of war.. enemy prediction yet again :@ :@
MSmits: no it's for of war
SamuelTheBad: MSmits not meant for me, but that's way less complicated than I was doing, good plan
MSmits: public class LeagueRules {
public int numberOfCherries = 4;
public boolean forOfWar = true;
wlesavo: if of war
MSmits: SamuelTheBad cool
kovi: psyho on cg?
cegprakash: eulerscheZahl you brought in Psyho here
cegprakash: :O
Astrobytes: I thought he left CG?
AntiSquid: ping him more
Illedan: Who is psy ho?
LelouchVC2: do black people have souls?
Astrobytes: You've never seen him on other CP sites/competitions Illedan?
AntiSquid: https://www.codingame.com/ide/demo/8418170c3da50805c6b4d74c4b360e70a1ba3f lol cute
Illedan: Nope
Astrobytes: LelouchVC2 can you stop trying to bait everyone with semi-racist/racist comments every day please
AntiSquid: LelouchVC2 that one's mean
AntiSquid: south park jokes don't really work sorry
Astrobytes: Jokes out of context don't work, end of story.
AntiSquid: and i'd say no because i don't think souls exist
LelouchVC2: LOL, only reply when I say racist stuff
AntiSquid: i replied other time too, don't be such an attention seeker
Astrobytes: I've replied to you previously without a racist comment from you, please do something more constructive
AntiSquid: some of the other jokes weren't bad though
MadKnight: stop seeking for attention Automaton2000
Automaton2000: if you look at the difference in the end of the game
icecream17: Oops - I named something "Square" instead of "
Cell" and didn't notice until now.
StuykSoft: Anyone have a link to the original code? Accidentally yeeted a bit of it.
AntiSquid: LelouchVC2 are you playing the contest?
MadKnight: StuykSoft just hit Reset code button
icecream17: Press the arrow that's looks like "reload" at the top right of the editor
StuykSoft: I don't want to lose all my code lmao
icecream17: Copy it
MadKnight: u got history of submits
StuykSoft: *heavy breathing*
Counterbalance: hmmm..
inital maze size: 35 x 17
public static int MAP_MAX_WIDTH = 33;
Illedan: :D
Counterbalance: what are the max map dimensions?
AntiSquid: ya that got me too
AntiSquid: really annoying
LelouchVC2: No it's what I was asking about
icecream17: Ctrl+C Windows+R "notepad" Enter Ctrl+V Ctrl+S "quicksave" Enter
LelouchVC2: I'm not an attention seeker, but that doesn't mean I wanna be depraved ;)
BenjaminUrquhart: ?
LelouchVC2: I was asking if the pac was worth doing solo
AntiSquid: no, install visual studio and save code through visual studio ! then create a local git repo and commit it there icecream17
LelouchVC2: If you've answered, i didn't see it
struct: it is meant to be done solo
AntiSquid: what do you mean solo ?
LelouchVC2: It should be done solo? I thought it was a group thing
AntiSquid: all contests are solo
Astrobytes: LelouchVC2 It's a multiplayer contest, only you can write your bot
icecream17: Well, I have atom, but in my opinion the codingame ide is good enough.
LelouchVC2: :o i see
LelouchVC2: thanks ,3
LelouchVC2: <3*
Counterbalance: is the referee on CG not the actual referee or something?
AntiSquid: icecream17 the current editor is same as visual studio code it seems, so you could use that locally if you wanted to
PowerPixel: there's also this, but it's in beta : https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/codingame-sync-beta/614
icecream17: you changed your profile, interesting
AntiSquid: me ? pacman nebula
icecream17: It got the sync beta extension awhile ago
icecream17: But it took me a week until I figured out how it works.
icecream17: https://imgur.com/a/iBhyLBJ Even though all I had to do was press the button right there
PowerPixel: i personally like the CG IDE, even though it doesn't compete with Eclipse imo
LelouchVC2: It always turns my else statements into some weird function
LelouchVC2: CG IDE is my biggest enemy
icecream17: what language
cegprakash: I miss MadKnight
LelouchVC2: C++
BenjaminUrquhart: the new autocomplete is a hot mess
cegprakash: MadKnight stop hiding ur bot
MadKnight: i'm not i'm still doing stuff
AntiSquid: pacmen should shoot elemental missiles, ice fire lightning ... etc
change my mind
icecream17: I used to have it, but I think pressed some keyboard thing and it doesn't autocomplete anymore
cegprakash: I love paper type more
cegprakash: scissor type looks like a fish
NormantasStankevicius: Is it me, but this contest for me is running into some UNusual crashes when testing code? might be the new UI changes???
elderlybeginner: how do you serve pacmans jamming?
NormantasStankevicius: it's something microsoft C# based tho
Zenoscave: Like CoreCLR issues?
NormantasStankevicius: yeah I think so
Over9000: Just got this on stderr, and then timeout: /usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable
Zenoscave: I'm having C# bail a bit on occation too
Astrobytes: They updated it
NormantasStankevicius: these new ui changes are quite good, just I feel quite weird when they have datatypes with their name both being blue
Astrobytes: And some stuff isn't working
NormantasStankevicius: I opened this code and I said WT*
NormantasStankevicius: everything was blue
AntiSquid: so if rock BLUE collides with scissors and paper RED, do they all die? not very clear statement
icecream17: I wish there was a way to customize Codingame IDE
NormantasStankevicius: yeah
Astrobytes: icecream17 I think they are working on more customisation options for it
angauber: anynone having /usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable
NormantasStankevicius: NAISU!
NormantasStankevicius: angauber I think someone stated having that, try running the code again, I think it's new update bugs
struct: paper red should not die right AntiSquid?
Over9000: That was me angauber
Over9000: Running again, no repro
AntiSquid: ya ok, do both of the other 2 die struct ?
angauber: did you fix it Over9000 ?
struct: Im gonna try to find
struct: give me a bit
Astrobytes: 1
Over9000: Just run again angauber
Astrobytes: @struct
Hastings: Alas, it is time to make my code actually remember the maze
Hastings: I had hoped this day would never come
NormantasStankevicius: what?
NormantasStankevicius: you mean store it in a grid?
Hastings: ye
NormantasStankevicius: ahhh that is quite standard tho, a bit annoying sometimes
NormantasStankevicius: but powerful
Hastings: I've reached 33rd in bronze by just going to the nearest pellet, but I don't expect to go much further without some kind of intelligence
LelouchVC2: Umm
LelouchVC2: When it says "Looks like you're ready for the Arena"
LelouchVC2: If I submit now what'll happen?
AntiSquid: click submit
AntiSquid: find out
LelouchVC2: ;-;
LelouchVC2: You're putting my life in danger
AntiSquid: JUST DO IT
LelouchVC2: did xD
AntiSquid: no dead pacs till bronze, i promise
LelouchVC2: Alright <3
LelouchVC2: My first contest
struct: yes AntiSquid
struct: https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020/blob/d71009713f346163031ad2ad99198a0ef60f56a3/src/main/java/com/codingame/spring2020/Game.java#L461
struct: That one updates viewer mostly
AntiSquid: so all that can die will die
struct: https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020/blob/d71009713f346163031ad2ad99198a0ef60f56a3/src/main/java/com/codingame/spring2020/Game.java#L520
struct: yes
AntiSquid: eatCherries();
what is this
struct: cherri = big pellete
SamuelTheBad: Is it even PacMan without ghosts though
AntiSquid: ya i noticed that ealier no ghosts
icecream17: i hope i'm not rushing in this contest in the wrong way
struct: Game looks fine to me as it is
LelouchVC2: won 9 out of 13
LelouchVC2: Is what I think this means
struct: Only thing I would like would be bigger maps
rcar: +cannibal pacmen, -ghosts
icecream17: Ooh, what about those ghost that move randomly but earn you points?
LelouchVC2: Is blinky a bot?
Over9000: yea
LelouchVC2: nice, i like blinky
Over9000: You have to be ranked better than him to advance to next league
LelouchVC2: I see :O
Over9000: Can I do SPEED and MOVE for same pac on same turn?
struct: no
Over9000: I see
Rafal.Py: I started getting the following error: Standard Error Stream:
/usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable
Over9000: Just play it again
Over9000: Worked for me at least
LelouchVC2: How do you know the position of your pac?
icecream17: Next visiblePacCount lines: Six integers:
pacId: the pac's unique id
mine: the pac's owner (1 if this pac is yours, 0 otherwise)
x & y: the pac's position
LelouchVC2: Ahh, thanks!
SamuelTheBad: Being able to see your opponent's comments is pretty next level
LelouchVC2: LOL
BenjaminUrquhart: SamuelTheBad you can't read them in code though
SamuelTheBad: Yeah, I mean the messages above the pacs. There's some interesting variety there
Nerchio: i think something is wrong with compiles i timeout and there is no reason for tha
thethiny: I was in the middle of fixing my code when I got promoted, now what I was working on is gone -_-
PowerPixel: Nerchio: same
thethiny: @Nerchio Max Heap is very small
thethiny: 4 recursive calls and I timeout
icecream17: When a Pac does MOVE and there are 2 shortest paths which path does the pacman take
Nerchio: random
thethiny: for me it was going back and forth in place lol
icecream17: 5 people above the boss right now in wood2 lol
Nerchio: =/
Nerchio: thethiny what does it mean they changed something?
thethiny: What do you mean?
Nerchio: i mean i shouldn't be timing out
Nerchio: so something is wrong
thethiny: We're timing out because they also don't want us to have too many calls, it should execute fast.
thethiny: So our solution shouldn't be recursion, but node-type solutions.
Nerchio: recursions are fine if you can manage your time
thethiny: I know but the time seems to be small
Nerchio: 50ms
thethiny: I tried to see where I time out
thethiny: and I'm timing out only when I exceed Max Heap
thethiny: what language are you coding in?
Nerchio: java
Nerchio: how do you know max heap size
PowerPixel: i'm currently using Java and my code times out as well
PowerPixel: sometimes
BenjaminUrquhart: Runtime.getMXBean().somethingsomething
Enknable: '/usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable'
thethiny: I don't know the max heap size, but what I did is call a recursive function (with memory) 4 times and it times out
thethiny: when I decreased the calls (if depth > 2: return) the timeout is gone
rcar: you've got 50ms per round and 768MB memory to work with
PowerPixel: i don't use recursion anywhere tho, and it never times out when testing it against the IDE bot
CanisLupus: same issue here '/usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable'
solaimanope: can one pac do both move and switch at the same time?
BenjaminUrquhart: wait nvm
BenjaminUrquhart: Nerchio https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/java.management/java/lang/management/ManagementFactory.html#getRuntimeMXBean()
BenjaminUrquhart: this has some useful methods
Earthborne: <rant>
gosh I hate that Python forces 'self'
</rant>
thethiny: Don't use classes
thethiny: :P
BenjaminUrquhart: there's also some stuff in java.lang.Runtime
Earthborne: Might think that's their intention when making it so frustrating
BenjaminUrquhart: google it ig
rcar: python has its flaws, but explicit self is definitely not one of them
LelouchVC2: Im sitting here trying to code the distance formula then it takes me to the next league
LelouchVC2: Like I was caught undressing
Earthborne: No I actually appreciate it somewhat, and I tend to force myself to use "this" in Java even when it's not necessary
Rafal.Py: my code was working 4 hours ago, but now it stopped...
LelouchVC2: You're code has aged beyond reason
Rafal.Py: I can't find where I screwed up
LelouchVC2: Give it 4 extra hours and it'll obliterate the website
Rafal.Py: I don't feel like laughing about it though
Beerus: :laughing:
Earthborne: But when I spend hours debugging just to find out I was missing a 'self', I need to hate it a bit
rcar: hours of debugging to find a missing self is a PEBCAK problem
Nerchio: so how do you print msg?
wlesavo: hm, getting timeouts with error on first turn
/usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable
is it related for the stress on the servers?
icecream17: grid.pegs? why did i name it that?
Nerchio: wlesavo i have the same sometimes
Earthborne: true :worried:
icecream17: Is there a better name for "pellet" and "floor"?
BenjaminUrquhart: um
BenjaminUrquhart: dot
BenjaminUrquhart: surface
LelouchVC2: "food" and "walkway"
Over9000: yummy and notwall
struct: wlesavo report it on forum bug thread i guess
LelouchVC2: "smoking" and "nonsmoking"
thethiny: Now I am timing out as well @Nerchio
Rafal.Py: wlesavo, just try again. It happens
thethiny: /usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable
LelouchVC2: Get the default code and compare you're changes
Earthborne: What, I had a game where I timed out, but when I sent the parameters to the IDE I won
LelouchVC2: Implement your changes one at a time until the code breaks, then you'll see what you did wrong
LelouchVC2: CG is supposed to make sense?
wlesavo: struct there are some treads about this on the forum already, different games related
struct: yeah I see
struct: but on thibaud aswered that they fixed it I think
AaronHe7: if pac mans collide do they both die?
angauber: no
thethiny: I pressed Replay in same conditions and it worked, there's an issue with the server I bet.
icecream17: Oof. I have an array for all the pellets I can see, but i
icecream17: can't know if i ate it yet....
moidda: Having trouble printing position for multilple pacs :/
Over9000: I have reported the stdbuf error here: https://forum.codingame.com/t/spring-challenge-2020-bugs-questions/180397/26?u=over9000
moidda: One pac doesnt receive any command
rcar: @moidda are you doing multiple commands separated by |
Wei-1: after Scala 2.13, the initialization for Scala had become even longer... my Scala bot will time out even with the default code...
wlesavo: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/4eaf7ad9-9faf-4ef5-8316-a29bd32d18e6
LelouchVC2: what league are you guys in right now?
angauber: the visual debugger is bugged x) the x pos of pacs have a +1 offset
BoBot: lol I got /usr/bin/stdbuf: resource temporarily unavailable in one run...servers really are overloaded?
SamuelTheBad: ...the default bot just timed out when I hit replay.
BenjaminUrquhart: servers are broken
PowerPixel: LelouchVC2: Wood 1 rank 42 bc i suck
BenjaminUrquhart: that's all folks
elderlybeginner: timed out error is annoying
PowerPixel: Apparently, there's also issues with C
cegprakash: how do I avoid zig zag :( :( :(
gregballot: It's a bug right ?
gregballot: the timeout thing
BoBot: the number of people participating is amazing though
SamuelTheBad: Yeah. I've been going insane trying to fix this incredibly simple thing, 99% sure it's just the servers now
gregballot: It happened to me, but I don't see how it can happen
PowerPixel: gregballot: most probably
Enknable: can you see how many?
BenjaminUrquhart: PowerPixel
https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458313287
moidda: @rcar thanks. My bad didnt notice
BenjaminUrquhart: you output "null" at some point and get killed
Wei-1: ok, hearing so many people also timeout does make me happier
Illedan: Yeah, they are looking into it
Wei-1: cool cool
PowerPixel: BenjaminUrquhart
it's not me tho :^)
BenjaminUrquhart: but that is you
PowerPixel: i'm still Wood 1 what
BenjaminUrquhart: I can play with the top 1000 players
BenjaminUrquhart: since there's around 700 in bronze, I can play with the top 300 wood players
PowerPixel: oh, i see
PowerPixel: well i dunno how that can happen tbh
solaimanope: Is there any tool to locally test the code?
BenjaminUrquhart: your pac reached a dead end
BenjaminUrquhart: solaimanope https://github.com/dreignier/cg-brutaltester
BenjaminUrquhart: not sure if anyone made the referee compatible yet though
Counterbalance: code like ` pacmen.stream().filter(pac -> !pac.isDead())..filter((value) -> (value.getNumber() == pacNumber)).findFirst().get();`
instead of player.alivePacmen.get(id) doesn't help server load either
solaimanope: Thanks
LelouchVC2: How the hell do you control more than 1 pac
PowerPixel: you do
Rafal.Py: for look?
BenjaminUrquhart: command 1 | command 2 | command 3 etc...
AlexRSS: Has anyone else gotten /usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable in the pacman challenge?
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
BoBot: yes
BenjaminUrquhart: known issue
Counterbalance: yes
PowerPixel: yes
Rafal.Py: Yes try again
LelouchVC2: Yea, but you only get coordinates for one?
Over9000: yes
Astrobytes: Yes, it's a known issue
BenjaminUrquhart: I think the answer is yes
Rafal.Py: LelouchVC2, you have a loop for i in range(visible_pac_count):
Rafal.Py: you get all pacs in it
Astrobytes: Possibly BenjaminUrquhart :D
Rafal.Py: if mine:
PowerPixel: the server seems to be unable to handle the laod, and tries to access stdbuf but fails because another program's already accessing it, just a wild guess tho, i'm not expert
LelouchVC2: I see :o
AlexRSS: Agh, is it a problem I've done or is it on CG's end and I just keep trying?
LelouchVC2: Thanks, i see now
Rafal.Py: k gl
PowerPixel: the laod btw
BenjaminUrquhart: my raking is dropping aaa
PowerPixel: the load** smfh
Astrobytes: AlexRSS CG issue
solaimanope: I have seen that initially all empty spaces will have pellets. Will this remain during rest of the competition?
AntiSquid: /usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable AutomatonNN Automaton2000 fix it
Automaton2000: i would like to know how it is done
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see the problem with the same problem
BenjaminUrquhart: ah yes the euler ping
AntiSquid: i find the message itself more amuzing
AntiSquid: seeing the problem with the same problem, how to do the contest inside the contest
PowerPixel: recursion be like
Nerchio: so you can't see around the corners yeah?
BenjaminUrquhart: recursion be like
recursion be like
recursion be like
recursion be like
BenjaminUrquhart: no
0x464d: Hello, can someone help mep?...I start with a lot of pellets score but almost at the end suddently the score CHANGE A LOT and finnaly i lose. I can't understand why? https://www.codingame.com/replay/458319110
PowerPixel: ah yes, buffer overflow
Waffle3z: you timed out so you lost
0x464d: But why time out??
BenjaminUrquhart: crash or you took too long to provide output
PowerPixel: does your code time out when you test in IDE ?
0x464d: what's mean that?
BenjaminUrquhart: there's a time limit
PowerPixel: timeout means your program didn't output anything before the time limit
0x464d: 0x464d has not provided 1 lines in time
0x464d: that line?
Counterbalance: solaimanope looks like it: https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020/blob/d71009713f346163031ad2ad99198a0ef60f56a3/src/main/java/com/codingame/spring2020/Game.java#L188
icecream17: yes
elderlybeginner: nah, seems like a bug for me; have the same
PowerPixel: which is 1s for the first turn and 50 ms for each others
Uljahn: rip CG
cegprakash: what is the visibility range?
Uljahn: line of sight
cegprakash: yeah what is that
SamuelTheBad: also they have eyes in the back of their head
cegprakash: is it like 3 or 4?
Over9000: as far as you can see
Over9000: infinite
SamuelTheBad: A straight line until it hits a wall
cegprakash: oh
Over9000: but just horizontal/vertical 'til wall
cegprakash: but for some reason I am able to see diagonal
Over9000: Maybe there's another pac seeing that stuff?
Over9000: Or it's a super-pellet?
Zenoscave: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458324349
Zenoscave: unforuntate
Uljahn: what is line, Automaton2000?
Over9000: Or maybe wa can see diagonal, I'm not actually sure
Automaton2000: have you read the input
AlexRSS: is there any way to run a line by line debug of my code in the CG editor?
BenjaminUrquhart: no
Astrobytes: No
Zenoscave: AlexRSS only if you run the program locally with the inputs given
Zenoscave: Which involves error printing the inputs given
wlesavo: only 28 computing, huh
Astrobytes: pewpew hi Zeno
Zenoscave: pew pew Hey Astro
AlexRSS: Seriously? How the hell is that not a feature
Zenoscave: You're welcome to write your own coding websites with debugging added
Astrobytes: Gotta think outside the box AlexRSS
Zenoscave: Give it a try
Uljahn: just use debug printing why even run line by line?
Zenoscave: Uljahn tricky memory bugs
Astrobytes: ^
MadKnight: it would be a heavy task for the servers AlexRSS
Uljahn: tricky == bad data structure design
MadKnight: and the servers are already struggling running all the bots in release mode
icecream17: Hey, i'm in wood. Does the typeId ever change?
Counterbalance: yes
Counterbalance: in bronze
Zenoscave: probably in brinze
AlexRSS: Alright, that's a fair enough answer. Still frustrating trying to figure out exactly where this is giving up without it
Spookiel: Is anyone else having trouble with their Pac-men moving at the same speed as the bots?
Zenoscave: Was correct
Astrobytes: I always aim for brinze league
Uljahn: easy brinzy
Zenoscave: :+1:
Zenoscave: that's the way to do it
Nerchio: so you guys also have random timeouts or its just java
Counterbalance: c++ too
elderlybeginner: python3 too
Counterbalance: ide and arena
Nerchio: so annoying :D
Astrobytes: Brinze->Solver->Guld->Lagend
PowerPixel: and now the bot in IDE times out for me
JBM: weed
BenjaminUrquhart: Guld
elderlybeginner: mostly second round timeouts thou
Zenoscave: rip CG
AlexRSS: Yeah, timed out for me as well
thethiny: It times out of the 2nd run approx
AlexRSS: Refreshed and now it just gives me a red error saying "Only one executor allowed" if I try and run
moidda: Does anyone know the constraints for width and height?
cegprakash: moidda it's dynamic
Counterbalance: MAP_MIN_WIDTH = 28, http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/caaf2e8c-690b-4985-b311-d30103971774
AlexRSS: I give up. As always I love the concept of stuff on here but the bloody environment being so unstable ruins it
cegprakash: AlexRSS what problem are u facing
moidda: Counterbalance where did you find such constrains
Counterbalance: moidda in the referee
AaronHe7: yeah run code breaks the game
Astrobytes: AlexRSS wait til later if there are platform issues
cegprakash: what language are u coding AlexRSS
cegprakash: I don't get any issues Astrobytes
moidda: Oh. The statements had constrainst. I just did not notice. My bad
cegprakash: that's what I told you
Counterbalance: moidda here https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020/blob/d71009713f346163031ad2ad99198a0ef60f56a3/src/main/java/com/codingame/spring2020/Config.java#L17 and here https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020/blob/d71009713f346163031ad2ad99198a0ef60f56a3/src/main/java/com/codingame/spring2020/Game.java#L79
Astrobytes: cegprakash some people are getting quite a few ceg, CG are working on it
Counterbalance: the constraints weren't there before in the description
Enknable: first day jitters
struct: Will probably be fixed tomorrow
Enknable: it happens
struct: I hope the score will also be fixed tomorrow :)
struct: ah tomorrow is saturday _(
Zenoscave: struct what's the score bug?
struct: :(
Counterbalance: today then
Waffle3z: today is saturday
cegprakash: AaronHe7 try printing logs on errorstream
struct: score and opponent score is always 0
Zenoscave: ...
Astrobytes: hi Enknable :wave:
Zenoscave: Whoops
struct: They dont update it
cegprakash: are u able to see something on standard error stream AaronHe7
Globy: Hello there, http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/a1cfb639-5f16-417c-8585-406ddf47bf88
solaimanope: https://www.codingame.com/replay/458336420
Enknable: hey Astrobytes!
Enknable: hows the pellet hunting?
solaimanope: I am getting "/usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily"
AaronHe7: No it just never runs
AaronHe7: stuck on "play in progress"
AntiSquid: no way to know if you killed someone or they ran off round the corner right?
Astrobytes: Slow Enknable, I'm on strong painkillers so I'm coding like a moron :D
Astrobytes: You?
Counterbalance: Lulemair new Date().getTime() gives you milliseconds
Enknable: damn whats got ya in so much pain?
icecream17: Oh no! I timeouted with: /usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable
StuykSoft: This: /usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable
StuykSoft: annoying asf
Globy: Counterbalance, I saw on stackoverflow that it's not good to do this, kinda lack on precision and all :/ Is it the only way ?
Counterbalance: there's other ways, but I didn't get them to work
icecream17: .getTime()?
solaimanope: I am getting /usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable a lot
icecream17: I just create a "time = new Date()"
Astrobytes: Lower back issue, Enknable. Thankfully nothing too serious (had some tests) but gotta take painkillers for a bit. Not fun but I'll live!
Zenoscave: Known issue solaimanope
icecream17: And do "new Date() - time"
solaimanope: Zenoscave is there a solution?
Globy: Same problem. But looks like it's the only solution, so I will take it ! Thanks !
Counterbalance: Lulemair process.hrtime() didn't work at the time, maybe now it does (I bailed on using JS years ago because of garbage collector timeouts when the server load was high)
Zenoscave: Wait solaimanope. Servers are overloaded
Enknable: You never know, Astrobytes. Some painkiller eurekas could be coming your way :)
Globy: Are timeouts an issue from codingGame btw ?
Sometimes I get this at the first round, and the program doesn't even get to the loopGame
icecream17: not usually
icecream17: that codingame video must've created too much hype
solaimanope: Thanks Zenoscave. Does this problem occur in rated matches too?
AntiSquid: 1600 first day icecream17, last contest there were hardly that many at the end of first week afaik
Counterbalance: yes, unfortunately - so leaderboard is a bit unreliable atm
Astrobytes: I highly doubt that one Enknable :D
Giving myself 10 or so minutes before I crash out lol
AntiSquid: k good night, prolly 3k by tomorrow when i wake up
AntiSquid: ah it's already friday, nvm
Astrobytes: gn Squidster
PowerPixel: is it only me or the bot is broken ?
Astrobytes: Since the bot is yours it is most likely you
PowerPixel: doesn't even tell me i didn't output anything in time
PowerPixel: lmfao no i meant
BenjaminUrquhart: struct thrilling gameplay
https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458341713
PowerPixel: the test IA
moidda: Ok, I was improving my code and suddenly got promoted to Bronze
Counterbalance: yeah that sucks
Astrobytes: :D
You're outputting something bad perhaps? Which language PowerPixel?
RubenFilipe: the servers are not doing so well
YannT: several nodes are crapped out yeah, there's random crashes at the moment
Astrobytes: Yes moidda, that happened for me from W2 to W1
PowerPixel: Out of system resources rofl
Astrobytes: It should all be fine later today/tomorrow
YannT: and the shops are closed tomorrow so good luck getting more ressources
Astrobytes: :D
Astrobytes: Not here
Astrobytes: VE day tomorrow right?
PowerPixel: Astrobytes
I'm writing my bot in Java
Astrobytes: Probably a server issue if your code was working fine previously PowerPixel
PowerPixel: ye, i could run my code just rn
struct: Zenoscave the score bug was fixed
YannT: Astrobytes: yes :)
Astrobytes: We don't even get a holiday in UK for that YannT!
AaronHe7: is anybody writing in c++
jthemphill: I think most people write C++ for these challenges, since you can usually turn compute power into better moves
YannT: Astrobytes: weird! sounds like the kind of thing that would warrant one
YannT: isn't it when you put on the poppies or am I confusing things?
ZomBMage: Nah, that's rememberance sunday
Astrobytes: That's Armistice Day, 11th November YannT
ZomBMage: VE day is some stupid thing some stupid people in our country made up to boost morale
YannT: ahh okay :) I just remebered that there was a thing in the UK with poppies, but not when it was :)
Astrobytes: No ZomBMage VE day is celebrated across Europe
ZomBMage: Oh is it a whole europe thing
Astrobytes: Um yeah, VE = Victory in Europe
ZomBMage: Ohhh yes
Astrobytes: :D
ZomBMage: I mean the way us brits seem to be doing it this year makes me want to curl up in a ball and cry
Astrobytes: You know it man
ZomBMage: i am not having a picnic on my doorstop thanks >:(
YannT: it's the day the nazis surrendered
Astrobytes: Anyway, I'm out now
Astrobytes: Totally banjaxed
Astrobytes: See you all tomorrow :)
YannT: :wave:
Enknable: Later Astrobytes :fist:
McArcher: adjacency list vs matrix?
solaimanope: Why does the game skip turn 3, 5 and 7 here:
solaimanope: https://www.codingame.com/replay/458346059
KCrown: ANyone getting thsi error? Standard Error Stream:
/usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable
McArcher: yes
McArcher: servers are fucckerrred
KCrown: oh :P
KCrown: thanks McArcher
TenYearOldCommitter_4b8d: yeah
McArcher: no problem bb
McArcher: now has any tested speed of list vs matrrix for this problem?
Enknable: Edmonton!
McArcher: ya bb
Enknable: you're the first Edmontonian ive ever seen here lol
TenYearOldCommitter_4b8d: So, is this "/usr/bin/stdbuf" error common?
PowerPixel: yes it is
PowerPixel: for the moment that is
thethiny: I found it dating back to Sep' 16
thethiny: that's 2016
TenYearOldCommitter_4b8d: Yeah, found that post but didn't know if it was mostly fixed or not
icecream17: NOOO i did an infinite loop in the console =(
TenYearOldCommitter_4b8d: ctrl-c?
McArcher: haha
PowerPixel: it's server load most probably
solaimanope: Does having speedup mean non-speed-up bots will skip one turn?
BenjaminUrquhart: no
solaimanope: https://www.codingame.com/replay/458351651
Streams of turn 3 and 5 are not shown here. Do you know why?
icecream17: How do I decide where to go?
wlesavo: frames are not necessarily turns
McArcher: yes they are
icecream17: 1 frame = 1 action
wlesavo: gn
jthemphill: are height and width essentially constant?
Nerchio: no
icecream17: wow
thethiny: to the guy who asked how can you see diagonal:
thethiny: Super-pellets are so bright that they can be seen from everywhere!
ZarthaxX: Nerchio nice profile pic
ZarthaxX: and nice rank
Nerchio: thanks
Kellthazar: Hello, guys. :)
solaimanope: icecream17 if that's the case, then why did streams of turn 3 and 5 are not shown here
https://www.codingame.com/replay/458351651
PowerPixel: gn
RubenFilipe: gn
ggjulio: Hi, i'm new on CG. Is A* pathfinding fast enough for 5 pacman ? (I never done it before. Not sure if it the best algo to try...)
Nerchio: you can get away with easier algos than A*
Nerchio: but if you want feel free to do it :p
icecream17: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/451a611c-5f05-4728-84d9-aa8825daf3a2
RubenFilipe: JPS
ggjulio: Nerchio Minimax ?
TrentT: Easier algos such as?
RubenFilipe: although JPS probably isnt the best here
Nerchio: for movement? bfs is fine
RubenFilipe: I did bfs
RubenFilipe: but probably something better would be in order
ggjulio: Nerchio First time doing bot programming, so yes, problably my choices sucks :joy:
Nerchio: I did a couple of challenges already and for movement bfs was decent for most of them
Waffle3z: since you get a full second on the first turn you can probably precompute every shortest path
Nerchio: in terms of grid
RubenFilipe: yeah
RubenFilipe: even if u cant, lighthouses ( i dont rememeber the name) with A* can do the trick
jaroldeen: What is this error??? /usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable
elderlybeginner: reload
RubenFilipe: but I thinnk you are right, pre-compute them all
Nerchio: you can do that yes
VicHofs: what would be better than bfs in this case bro
Nerchio: but you dont need to optimize before you actually reach timeout problems
RubenFilipe: y, sure
RubenFilipe: I don't really know what comes next as well
Nerchio: especially if its someones first challenge
Nerchio: then optimization before anything else is not recommended
rcar: seriously. you can still be near the top right now with basic strategy and manhattan distance ignoring walls
ggjulio: Okay, thx ! Will try it, I want to learn it anyway.
rcar: save a* and bfs for later if you're still in wood
Nerchio: bfs is bread and butter for challenges its not too hard also
ggjulio: okay
VicHofs: just to get some opinions, did you guys implement the map as a list, matrix or what?
RubenFilipe: matrix
BenjaminUrquhart: combination matrix and map
jthemphill: my "battles in progress" is stuck at 0%, and my ranking on the leaderboard is stuck at wood 202 despite what looks like a 90% winrate. Is this happening to anyone else?
Nerchio: the servers seem to have some problems
jthemphill: :cold_sweat:
icecream17: me too. think the server is struggling
LelouchVC2: The server trying to hold the mass of the world
icecream17: nevermind, it updated, i'm 8th
jthemphill: oh okay yeah 24th now
BenjaminUrquhart: the jvm doesn't have enough memory to start
BenjaminUrquhart: reeeee
Nerchio: yeah java is not doing so well today
Nerchio: i hope it will be fixed when servers stabilize
cooljoseph: Is there a way to use header files for c++?
jthemphill: just copy/paste all the code, it's what #include does anyway
cooljoseph: Yeah, I guess. I just wanted it more organized
jthemphill: i sometimes like to organize things on my local machine, then inline everything when i put on the website
BenjaminUrquhart: https://github.com/Viatorus/quom
Ceej: I keep getting: /usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable
BenjaminUrquhart: known
icecream17: wow, in js there's "try", "catch", and "finally".
poInT: seems servers are ded :)
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
Illuminait: is that whats happening? keep getting timedout on my code running
Illuminait: been looking forever trying to find the loop it was stuck in
RubenFilipe: might be servers, might not be
RubenFilipe: i get timeouts on server as well, and sometimes the error people are complaining about usr/bin/etc..
Illuminait: well, im workin on the 'coders strike back' and even the boss timesout sometimes
RubenFilipe: that's coz he's bad.. :D ... (jk)
Illuminait: "/usr/bin/stdbuf: Resource temporarily unavailable"
BenjaminUrquhart: would anyone be upset if I set up an autoresponse for that
icecream17: Is this allowed?
BenjaminUrquhart: ?
icecream17: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/456757c8-98cf-4ee6-9aa0-4a5831526884
LelouchVC2: Everything is allowed
BenjaminUrquhart: why would it not be
LelouchVC2: You can kill your opponents and become #1
icecream17: Phew! Finally, I will never ever timeout because I crash.
BenjaminUrquhart: to be clear, we are not advocating the assassination of the 10k registered participants to get first place
BenjaminUrquhart: I prefer a hard crash simply because they're easier to spot in replays
VicHofs: of course not haha
BenjaminUrquhart: :eyes:
BenjaminUrquhart: :gun:
BenjaminUrquhart: ew
VicHofs: :heart:
icecream17: oh no
BenjaminUrquhart: 🔫
BenjaminUrquhart: I totally didn't just find the unicode for it
VicHofs: your loss they only have water guns
LelouchVC2: LOL
LelouchVC2: ♥☻☺
BenjaminUrquhart: *squirt*
BenjaminUrquhart: :heart:
VicHofs: ouch
VicHofs: MY PC DUDE
BenjaminUrquhart: AutomatonNN fix the servers
icecream17: :no_mouth: Σ\\\\\\---->
AutomatonNN: are you not doing the contest release ?
VicHofs: WHAT THE HECK
icecream17: AutomationNN Automaton2000 who will respond faster
Automaton2000: thats the way to go though
BenjaminUrquhart: it's always gonna be 2000
icecream17: it almost looks like the same account
BenjaminUrquhart: nah
icecream17: my biggest win ever: https://www.codingame.com/replay/458382877
VicHofs: yo what lmao
VicHofs: how did Blinky time out
LelouchVC2: Cause Blinky was busy checking out Pinky
Enknable: bots aren't perfect, just ask Automaton2000
jthemphill: I think anyone can time out right now because stdin is slow for everyone
Automaton2000: but i was thinking about
VicHofs: umm... are these NLP bots?
Enknable: Automaton2000, you gonna let him say that about you?
Automaton2000: so that i can get legend
VicHofs: here's hoping Pinky's just as inconsistent
sparky: automaton2000, perl or php?
Automaton2000: is there a way to get the score
VicHofs: why are the bots asking the questions here lmao
TrentT: AutomatonNN Can you help Vichofs
AutomatonNN: i noticed that the way i do it is a bit of a problem with that as it is
VicHofs: Automation2000 can you help AutomationNN help me
VicHofs: AutomatonNN can you help Automaton2000 help me help AutomatonNN
Automaton2000: they mean the exact same thing
AutomatonNN: what do you mean by the anti-bomb?
VicHofs: damn you're good
BenjaminUrquhart: icecream17 which leage
BenjaminUrquhart: league*
icecream17: wood2
BenjaminUrquhart: get out of there sir
VicHofs: BenjaminUrquhart wbu
BenjaminUrquhart: bronze
VicHofs: nice
icecream17: alreadt 453 lines but my bot is bad =/
NinjaDoggy: ._. 453 lines wood 2 bot
VicHofs: dude you're overdoing it lol\
LelouchVC2: Wtf?
NinjaDoggy: even bfs + minimax wouldn't be that long
BenjaminUrquhart: I have 487 lines
VicHofs: You can get out of wood2 with no extra lines of code
LelouchVC2: 453 lines? How'd you manage?
icecream17: Check it out:
icecream17: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/6366971e-06e5-42bc-938c-303c2fc912ef
struct: icecream17 you want ban?
NinjaDoggy: lol struct
LelouchVC2: Idk why you're using dynamic memory
NinjaDoggy: leave the poor wood 2 man alone :(
icecream17: oh I didn't fit all the code. oh well
BenjaminUrquhart: don't share code
LelouchVC2: My bots are doing pretty good
icecream17: ok
LelouchVC2: Share code
struct: NinjaDoggy just go to closest pettel
struct: Game will change a lot on bronze
struct: It also works for wood 1
VicHofs: I mean dude shared wood2 no one really minds probably lol
NinjaDoggy: D: pettel = animal home D:
Illuminait: 450+ lines of code, and servers acting up, just a coincidence surely
LelouchVC2: LOL
BenjaminUrquhart: I got to bronze in 1 submit using closest pellet
NinjaDoggy: yes more lines of code = wharder on server :)
VicHofs: BenjaminUrquhart wth seriously
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
struct: yes
VicHofs: I did it too and got to wood1
NinjaDoggy: lame -_-
struct: im around 370 with move to closest
VicHofs: now I'm tryna implement BFS to see if I get a boost
NinjaDoggy: not gonna submit till I have BFS precompute + minimax done :D
struct: NinjaDoggy dont forget
struct: there will be fog of war
NinjaDoggy: ?
NinjaDoggy: ahh yeathat sucks
NinjaDoggy: but at least my BFS can be used right
BenjaminUrquhart: not really a fog persay
NinjaDoggy: cuz map is known
VicHofs: what is this fog of war tho
struct: not a fog?
VicHofs: how's it gonna get implemented
struct: https://static.codingame.com/servlet/fileservlet?id=43832388706627
struct: Like this
NinjaDoggy: wait it's
NinjaDoggy: line of sight?
struct: yes
NinjaDoggy: ahhh tyty
NinjaDoggy: nice to keep in mind
VicHofs: is that different from what we have now tho?
struct: on wood 1
struct: you can see all pellets
VicHofs: oh
VicHofs: didn't knwo that
NinjaDoggy: what about pac mans
VicHofs: what about wood2
struct: also the big pellet is always visible
NinjaDoggy: do you only sees ones in line of sight?
struct: same for pacmans
struct: So only big pettels are not affected
NinjaDoggy: ok no biggies just gotta change eval function then :D
VicHofs: the big ones can be seen from wherever?
struct: yes
VicHofs: damn ok
struct: board max is 33 so doesnt fit in int32
NinjaDoggy: wowwww
struct: vertical is 17 so it doesnt fit in int16
struct: is this on purpouse???
NinjaDoggy: how could they T_T
BenjaminUrquhart: it's varying sizes
struct: This must be on purpouse :p
NinjaDoggy: it's k
NinjaDoggy: just store it in 9 64-bit numbers
VicHofs: idk if they'd go that far
Waffle3z: you can probably special case the edges. top and bottom are always solid
struct: 0 and height you mean?
Waffle3z: 0 and height-1 yeah
Waffle3z: they're all walls
LelouchVC2: I need ur mother to call me, it's urgent
NinjaDoggy: is it also guarenteed that it's a maze so like no 2 wide?
BenjaminUrquhart: ye
NinjaDoggy: ok so...
Waffle3z: mazes don't have cycles and these do but yeah there are no open squares
Waffle3z: there can be squares that are walls
NinjaDoggy: max number of columns is really just 16?
NinjaDoggy: or is it 17 D:
LelouchVC2: Honestly, idk why you'd need the map
Waffle3z: if the max height is 17 then the max number of rows that aren't walls is 15
NinjaDoggy: it's 8 actually right?
NinjaDoggy: cuz u can't have 2 wide
NinjaDoggy: 2 height chunks
Waffle3z: 14 I guess since it's always odd
Waffle3z: I mean 15
Waffle3z: is it always odd? that might not be guaranteed
NinjaDoggy: honestly though...
NinjaDoggy: who cares :P
LelouchVC2: Can you catch something like "is blocked from entering"?
VicHofs: NinjaDoggy do u main Genji
thethiny: Guys how do we move up the Rankings exactly?
LelouchVC2: having a sexy bott
VicHofs: Submit your code and beat the bot
NinjaDoggy: VicHofs lol I used a few years ago XD
VicHofs: NinjaDoggy awww why'd u quit bro
VicHofs: I main that mf
thethiny: There's no "bot", it's just someone who's #1 and I keep winning but I don't see my Ranking change
VicHofs: Yeah there is
NinjaDoggy: cuz every hero blizzard released made genji's life worse XD
thethiny: Mada Mada
VicHofs: what language are you coding in? thethiny
thethiny: Python
VicHofs: HOLY CRAP GENJI MAIN REUNION
VicHofs: thetiny bot's name is Blinky
thethiny: I need healing
thethiny: I'm in Bronze, not in Wood
VicHofs: oh.
VicHofs: well silver hasn't unlocked yet
VicHofs: it's only on the 11th
thethiny: But at least I should increase in rating, right?
VicHofs: ranking yes
VicHofs: why?
thethiny: which isn't happening
VicHofs: huh
VicHofs: idk then
thethiny: I'm stuck on 291 even though I have a 10 win streak
VicHofs: let's ask the bots
Durkin: beating more people in total than another bot will place you ahead of them in the ranking. Beating a person wont necessarily make you higher than them
VicHofs: Automaton2000 yo help out my boy thethiny
Automaton2000: it's not like there's a lot of stuff
thethiny: Makes sense, thanks Drukin
VicHofs: see he's useless
thethiny: lol yeah
Waffle3z: I don't think the ranks update after every game
thethiny: Like Mercy Mains when there's a Pharah
AFrenchGuy: I would say that the better your bot, the longer your games, so you might expect a little delay when you get to higher grades
VicHofs: :heart: thethiny
Waffle3z: your submission isn't in progress anyway though
VicHofs: what'd u guys implement to get to bronze?
VicHofs: some guys said they got there with just nearest pellet lol
Waffle3z: go down the path with the highest value
VicHofs: but I'm still working on BFS to get there.
AFrenchGuy: That is greedy algorithm
AFrenchGuy: that won't last
VicHofs: yeah I'm not trying to do that
Heaty: Yo! I just joined. Hows it going everyone!
Waffle3z: it's a start
PeaceMoreZ: Hey
VicHofs: but I did get past wood2 like thta
PeaceMoreZ: how's it going with you
Heaty: Needed a distraction from work so here I am.
I was going through the site and saw y'all chattin so yea, had to drop in.
Heaty: Happy coding! Cheers
TrentT: Automaton2000 Say hello to Heaty
Automaton2000: so you would have to read the rules :d
Heaty: Yes, I am going through that now.
VicHofs: Automaton2000 tell AutomatonNN to tell Automaton2000 to tell everyone good luck
Automaton2000: do u use instead ?
AutomatonNN: what do you think about the contest?
TrentT: Automaton2000 is a mod that can answer any questions you have
BenjaminUrquhart: woah a coherent response
Automaton2000: anyone can help with a puzzle?
VicHofs: can you help me Automaton2000
Automaton2000: let's say you have a working sim
VicHofs: ok, then what? Automaton2000
Automaton2000: well it is the end of the day
VicHofs: ...yes?
Heaty: Automation2000 is just adorable
Waffle3z: Automaton2000 is hard to spell
Automaton2000: so it could be a bit confusing
VicHofs: hey AutomatonNN can you write my code for me I'm tired
AutomatonNN: eulerscheZahl is there a way to see the replay in the code golf code
MathieuLapointe: we had starter pack before any one know where they were ???
VicHofs: why do they resemble players more than actual players
VicHofs: players are more helpful tho
DeWill: hehe...
Heaty: Hahaha! I just misspelled Automaton2000. Oops!
Automaton2000: and it did not work
Heaty: Hahahaha!! That is just adorable!
icecream17: Automaton2000 who are you
Automaton2000: u need to get to top 100
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
fvla: this is trash, this Emacs mode...
struct: you can change it
fvla: I just discovered that there's a way to replicate Emacs commands, but I can't even do ctrl-n (down/next line) without opening a new window
LelouchVC2: It's suuch a bother to get these retarded bots to not bump into eachother infinitely
fvla: There's Vim too, but there's no way I'm stepping within 10 meters of that
icecream17: i wish my floodfills dont always timeout. how do people do it automaton2000?
BenjaminUrquhart: LelouchVC2 there's a simple solution once you reach bronze :P
Automaton2000: that would be nice to talk to people who are at the top of the leaderboard
LelouchVC2: BenjaminUrquhart really? So I shouldn't bother to fix it now?
VicHofs: Automaton2000 please stop
Automaton2000: if you have enough time to do all this
fvla: wait until bronze
BenjaminUrquhart: well you should bother
fvla: you have a lot more options then
LelouchVC2: That's the only thing making me lose some of these rounds, my bots start humping eachother
fvla: imo, you should build up complex behavior like that when you have all the rules
Heaty: Automaton2000, where is automatonNN?
AutomatonNN: i dont know what it is this time
Automaton2000: i think i might need to change my code to get the validators
fvla: please don't remind me of Code MENT
LelouchVC2: Don't remind ME of code ment
fvla: "humping each other"
LelouchVC2: *rolls eyes*
toby666999: hello,everyone!
icecream17: every time i try to floodfill it times out. i guess im stuck in wood again. sigh
fvla: Floodfill?
icecream17: closest pellet
Nanosplitter: You don't really need anything complicated to get into bronze
fvla: just BFS better
fvla: as in, look up an algorithm
LelouchVC2: how many 1st place battles do i need to get into bronze ffs
fvla: and copy/paste and adapt it
BenjaminUrquhart: enough
fvla: patience, lelouch
LelouchVC2: Patience is a virtue
fvla: it takes a stupid amount of time to run it all, just go grab a drink or someting
LelouchVC2: Which I do not possess
fvla: pro tip
LelouchVC2: Alright <3
LelouchVC2: Thanks :))
fvla: play a game, watch something, anything but waiting lol
LelouchVC2: I luv these infinite loop bumps, gonna grab some food
Nanosplitter: I got into bronze using just a cartesian distance formula to find the closest pellet, it's not the most efficient but it's more than enough to beat the boss
BenjaminUrquhart: I flooded
BenjaminUrquhart: kappa
fvla: seriously, you don't flood fill or cartesian distance; you BFS
VicHofs: I'm trying to implement BFS too but it's my first time doing it
fvla: which language?
Nanosplitter: That is most efficient, yes
fvla: whatever you say, my answer is google
VicHofs: Python
fvla: easily googlable
Nanosplitter: But it gets much more complex when you don't have the whole board at your disposal
fvla: and then adapt it to grid
fvla: ofc
VicHofs: Yeah I am doing that
fvla: but i would argue that it's not actually that much more complex if you know what you're doing
Nanosplitter: But getting from wood to bronze is super easy with using cartesian distance
fvla: that's really sad, to be honest
Nanosplitter: And also the vision your pac has in bronze is only straight lines so cartesian distance for that works well too
Edrevan: why sad ?
NinjaDoggy: wai you dont get the grid later?
NinjaDoggy: ._.
Nanosplitter: You do get the grid
Nanosplitter: But not the pellets
NinjaDoggy: bnut if you have grid you can bfs it
fvla: cartesian distance in some edge cases will make it so your bot will go in some stupid directions with no pellets
Nanosplitter: Yes, but still plenty good enough to get to bronze
fvla: who cares about getting to bronze
fvla: the real battle starts here!
VicHofs: fvla let him do his thing we do BFS
fvla: lolmao
Waffle3z: the real battle starts at bronze where you have the full rules
struct: some people just want to get full rules before starting to code
Durkin: what? the whole point is getting to bronze right now, get the rest of the rull set
fvla: he is at bronze lol
fvla: in that context, you don't care about what you did to get to bronze
Edrevan: fvla you gotta start somewhere. Not everybody has the skills / time / intuition required to do high level algorithms immediately
struct: yeah
struct: I do not
fvla: yeah, you're right
fvla: sorry
Edrevan: in most contest many people don't even make it out of bronze ^^
VicHofs: I don't either but I'm tryna get BFS down first
fvla: BEE EFF ESSSSSSSSSSSSS
Edrevan: there's actually a guy that gets into top gold / legend in most contests while only coding like 4 or 5 hours for the whole thing
Edrevan: no fancy algorithms : just clever heuristics
Edrevan: to each his own ^^
Edrevan: https://www.codingame.com/blog/lazy-keep-simple/
fvla: BFS isn't what I'd call fancy, honestly
fvla: there are some really cool things you can do with heuristics though
NinjaDoggy: which genius came up with the idea of using a space to represent empty space :(
icecream17: argh, im too tired and bfs seems too complicated. i'm gonna try to find something else
thethiny: Make a copy of the board and modify it the way you wish, you don't have to stick to their standard
thethiny: @icecream17
thethiny: def bfs(grid, start): http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/d5777826-511c-4c4d-9c0b-5de2258564e4
Nanosplitter: or math.sqrt((x2 - x1)**2 + (y2 - y1)**2)
thethiny: yup lol
BenjaminUrquhart: I've gotten every single variant of an out of memory error today
BenjaminUrquhart: eee
thethiny: lmao
BenjaminUrquhart: the stdbuf thing
BenjaminUrquhart: a full on OutOfMemoryError being thrown
BenjaminUrquhart: and now
BenjaminUrquhart: Error occurred during initialization of VM
Cannot create VM thread. Out of system resources.
icecream17: what does path and queue mean?
NinjaDoggy: lol
NinjaDoggy: at the memory error thing
NinjaDoggy: not the question ._.
struct: Nanosplitter i think you have wrong type of distance
NinjaDoggy: queue is a datastructure that lets you add stuff to the end and remove from the front
NinjaDoggy: and the path is the sequence of grids
struct: should be abs(x2 - x1) + abs(y2 - y1)
thethiny: **2 = abs
thethiny: math.sqrt( x ** 2) is abs
Nanosplitter: Yes
struct: this is not the same
struct: math.sqrt((x2 - x1)**2 + (y2 - y1)**2)
struct: as what I pasted
thethiny: it is the same
thethiny: abs(-3) = 3
icecream17: i only know js so only array, which is like "list" in python. and yes, i could check each pellet and take the distance, but i've already tried...
thethiny: math.sqrt(3**2) = math.sqrt(9) = 3
orlp: (1j**2)**0.5 == 1j
Nanosplitter: https://www.google.com/search?q=distance+formula&rlz=1C1GIVA_enUS838US838&oq=distance+formula&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.3810j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
orlp: :^)
thethiny: x**0.5 = 1/x
orlp: eh no
thethiny: damn im bad at these
thethiny: what is it then
orlp: x ** 0.5 == math.sqrt
struct: 3-1 = 2 + 3 - 1 = 2 == 4
2**2 + 2**2 = 8
orlp: x ** -1 = 1/x
struct: sqrt(8) is not 4
thethiny: okay :^)
Nanosplitter: I'm just using the distance formula, what's wrong with that?
thethiny: @struct
struct: manhattan distance
rcar: you're using euclidean distance and this is manhattan distance
icecream17: i thought it was euclidean
orlp: if you can only move up/down/left/right
orlp: it's manhattan
orlp: abs(y2 - y1) + abs(x2 - x1)
orlp: also known as L1 distance
icecream17: but the grid is a torus, bc pacman
orlp: sure, but that's left as an exercise of the reader :)
orlp: for*
Nanosplitter: Ohhhh that makes sense
icecream17: i should probably restart. ugh.
icecream17: gn
GeekNbOne: What does the battle in progress pct mean?
MathieuLapointe: c++ easiest way to translate the string to grid ?
MathieuLapointe: we had exemple that i no more find
struct: you can do a for loop and check each char in the row
MathieuLapointe: ok thank you long time did not coded
NinjaDoggy: is there a way to get what's given to stdin?
struct: This is what I do in STC MathieuLapointe
rcar: other than reading from stdin?
struct: its similar to read
struct: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/fe142ecb-78e0-44ac-a5e0-da4fbefa5f5c
Javatacos: anyone else getting "Error occurred during initialization of VM" all the time?
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
Javatacos: just too many people on?
thethiny: @Mathieu in C++ a string is an array so by default it's a 2D array, just assume it's that and move on
thethiny: it becomes grid[y][x]
thethiny: not grid[x][y]
MathieuLapointe: haha so many answers strugling to read them all thank you all
orlp: is there a maximum width/height known?
orlp: like, as in a constant
struct: 33 17
orlp: will it always stay that size?
orlp: it doesn't say it in the problem as far as i can see
struct: its in the referee
orlp: where do I see that?
struct: unless they change the referee those are the max
struct: https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020/
orlp: ohhh we can run this challenge locally?
orlp: I might implement DQN then
BenjaminUrquhart: how many matches do I have to have in order to get a leaderboard rank
BenjaminUrquhart: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
RubenFilipe: Do PPO, there it is adversarial in the bigger leagues I think
orlp: are we allowed to share code from the referee?
BenjaminUrquhart: yes
BenjaminUrquhart: referee is public anyway
jthemphill: I think the server isn't updating league rankings properly
orlp: https://github.com/CodinGame/SpringChallenge2020/blob/master/src/main/java/com/codingame/spring2020/Grid.java#L102
orlp: for those struggling with getting toroidal manhattan distance right
orlp: although this assumes that only the x direction wraps
MathieuLapointe: @orlp ho good point pacman warp to other side
orlp: but since the challenge itself specifies that...
orlp: or well, the referee
jthemphill: I wish the system would check your solution against the boss a hundred or so times and short-circuit you out of the league if your bot clearly beats the boss
Durkin: eh, problem with hardcoding to beat a boss flaw, 'specially if someone found an issue and mass-posted it
BenjaminUrquhart: 70 matches now
BenjaminUrquhart: no ranking
BenjaminUrquhart: aaaa
thethiny: Same here, been since 2 hours so far
thethiny: no ranking
jthemphill: i feel like the current system would already push you out of a league if you exploit a boss's flaw
Durkin: think the current rankings is a ratio of your matches won over total compared to other players. Might do it if the boss is poor overall, but still relies on being better compared to the boss at beating everyone else than specificly beating the boss
jthemphill: i guess... i don't particularly care about the competitive integrity of lower leagues? I just want to play with the rock paper scissors mechanic, and right now that mechanic is gated behind ranking computation shenanigans
Durkin: god yeah, looking forwards to that, looks so goofy and I'm ready to have my ass kicked /o/
MathieuLapointe: just googled flood fill toroidale went wrong
RubenFilipe: there aren't vertical wraps around the field right?
struct: only horizontal
JRiedl: nope, only horizontal
RubenFilipe: thanks guys
BenjaminUrquhart: doesn't stop me from handling vertical swaps anyway
elderlybeginner: servers lagging?
MathieuLapointe: #BenjaminUrquhart why ^
BenjaminUrquhart: very
solaimanope: ranklist is not being updated for more than 1 hour
RubenFilipe: I think the referee doesn't handle vertical wraps
RubenFilipe: how many people, when debugging, start looking at the Boss, and go crazy thinking they have weird bugs?
jthemphill: every time
RubenFilipe: thanks, I feel better now
berries: this is a really dumb question but im new to some of this but how is the grid set up, is it just one long string callled row or is row an array to show the grid
berries: because how the grid is initialized confuses me a bit
NinjaDoggy: nothing is done for you
NinjaDoggy: you just read input
NinjaDoggy: and format it the way you like
NinjaDoggy: input format is at the bottome
NinjaDoggy: "game input"
jthemphill: the row is a single line, but it's in a loop
jthemphill: so you're looping through one string per row of the grid, from top to bottom
JamesMarkus: Can anybody help me out with this? https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/for-loop-doesnt-run-enough-java/180745
berries: does row get replaced or is it concatenated on
jthemphill: row is replaced
NinjaDoggy: JamesMarkus the reason why it "stops running"
NinjaDoggy: is because when you do System.ou
jthemphill: @berries you can print row to stderr, it's just a string
NinjaDoggy: codingame's gonna catch it and use it as your turn output
NinjaDoggy: so yea use System.err.println() instead
JamesMarkus: ah thank you
berries: okay thanks
ggjulio: Sometime, I lose with a timeout. But each time I load it in the ide, There is no timeout.
BenjaminUrquhart: server is struggling
ggjulio: Okay, does it count ?
ggjulio: In the leaderboard
JamesMarkus: I changed it to System.err.print and it still only runs the loop twice
Oioi: There is a server problem right now. My working code 6h ago is not working any longer
berries: im just getting a vm thread error
VicHofs: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458418021 turns out Pinky times out too
JamesMarkus: Yeah, I was thinking that might be the case. Sometimes I get an OutOfMemory error, sometimes I don't
MathieuLapointe: how do i send cin to my class in c++ syntax question i guess but i dont find ...
thethiny: what's your question exactly?
berries: maybe ill just take a look at it again tomorrow lol
jthemphill: @MathieuLapointe the starter code handles parsing from cin/stdin already
thethiny: I lost to HKit by 1 point :(
jthemphill: womp
LelouchVC2: I had a draw because both our bots crashed at startup
thethiny: lmao
a_bar: Hello, can someone give me a hint on how to output in the format MOVE 0,18 9|MOVE 1 21 2. I'm trying to use lists to store my move but I get my result in '[ ]' which is not acceptable
BenjaminUrquhart: python?
a_bar: yes
VicHofs: try f-strings a_bar
BenjaminUrquhart: print(*moves, sep = "|")
BenjaminUrquhart: make sure there are no bars in your commands
BenjaminUrquhart: and that should work
BenjaminUrquhart: don't ask me how it performs idk
VicHofs: my bot's actually doing pretty good as is but I really wanna get this BFS going before bronze lol
eulerscheZahl: Console.WriteLine(string.Join("|", actions));
BenjaminUrquhart: System.out.println(String.join("|", commands));
VicHofs: what
a_bar: Now I'm getting the output like MOVE|5|1|1|MOVE|7|1|1|.
BenjaminUrquhart: imagine using BFS
this post made by someone who uses BFS
BenjaminUrquhart: er
BenjaminUrquhart: a_bar how do you create the list
a_bar: move+=["MOVE", x,y,value]
a_bar: it makees sense why my output is like that
JamesMarkus: My code works on an online compiler (obviously with some tweaks), but I can't get it to work here. Any help?
BenjaminUrquhart: move.append([...])
JamesMarkus: https://www.codingame.com/forum/t/for-loop-doesnt-run-enough-java/180745
BenjaminUrquhart: as for the output
MSmits: yay i converted my 500 line bot to c++. Now I can sleep.
MSmits: by the way good morning eulerscheZahl
BenjaminUrquhart: print(*map(" ".join, moves), sep = "|")
BenjaminUrquhart: don't hurt me
BenjaminUrquhart: I'm not a pro python dev
a_bar: light years ahead of me anyway
LelouchVC2: What language was it originally MSits?
MSmits: C#
VicHofs: did you convert it manually
MSmits: yes
LelouchVC2: I love C# ! Why'd you need to convert?
ZarthaxX: smito
VicHofs: you absolute madman lmao
MSmits: I dunno, I suspect I will be searching at some point
VicHofs: is there any way to change every instance in the onlline IDE?
VicHofs: *online
BenjaminUrquhart: search and replace?
MSmits: actually, I just couldn't sleep... common contest problem and c++ conversion was on my list. Couldn't think very clearly, so the conversion was low hanging fruit. It's pretty brainless stuff
LelouchVC2: Copy the code onto an IDe
dbdr: did you stay up all night MSmits? :D
VicHofs: yeah every instance BenjaminUrquhart
LelouchVC2: and then copy it back when ur done
MSmits: i honestly tried to sleep dbdr
BenjaminUrquhart: ctrl/cmd + f
VicHofs: LelouchVC2 that's the whole point of the question tho lmao
MSmits: could not, too hyped
dbdr: lol
dbdr: it's a nice state to be in too, right?
BenjaminUrquhart: press the leftmost arrow to drop down a replace text box
LelouchVC2: XD If your browser doesn't support replacing keywords then no choice
BenjaminUrquhart: it supports regex too last I checked
LelouchVC2: Damn, really?
BenjaminUrquhart: CG has its own search and replace
VicHofs: oh thanks BenjaminUrquhart
MSmits: it's not bad, got most of my work done dbdr, will catch some sleep in the afternoon
VicHofs: didn't know it had that along with searcg
VicHofs: *search
VicHofs: pretty handy
dbdr: you can try aphasic sleep
MSmits: I have an AI class at 9:00 (in 3 hrs), but I already did every assignment, so it's just mandatory presence
Huday.object: lmao
MSmits: I'll sleep on zoom :P
LelouchVC2: Sleep in my arms :))
Waffle3z: play a loop of yourself staring near the screen
eulerscheZahl: does everyone get random timeouts in turn 1?
LelouchVC2: Yes, not particularly turn 1
Waffle3z: it's always only been turn 1 for me
twray2: i have, yes
VicHofs: just put a cool background and sleep no one's gonna bat an eye
LelouchVC2: But everyone is getting the time outs
MSmits: you missed the server problems eulerscheZahl
MSmits: with your normal sleeping schedule
VicHofs: I'm getting them too
eulerscheZahl: thanks, then i won't investigate on my code
MSmits: you normal person, you
BenjaminUrquhart: server problems are still here
eulerscheZahl: https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458423361
i lost to the squid even
BenjaminUrquhart: it takes an hour to get a leaderboard ranking after a submit
dbdr: it's not fast now either
dbdr: strange, with 29 computing on the challenge
MSmits: no it's the old bug
MSmits: we had it before
BenjaminUrquhart: eulerscheZahl k found code problem for you
https://www.codingame.com/share-replay/458423806
BenjaminUrquhart: Bad command: Invalid Input: Expected MOVE <id> <x> <y> or SPEED <id> or SWITCH <id> <type(ROCK|PAPER|SCISSORS)> but got 'MOVE 4'
MSmits: where it times out randomly before the game starts
MSmits: resource something
dbdr: yes, I saw a compiler error
eulerscheZahl: BenjaminUrquhart that's my old bot which i just fixed
chandubaba: hellos!
