Gamebot: is this website not working properly now?
Helasraizam: Don't think so, I'm stuck on "validating your program and computing score"
Helasraizam: nm, guess it just took a while
daffie: nah it's def taking a dump
daffie: will be back later I guess
SasiKing: Clash Games Aren't starting for me
eulerscheZahl: that got reported already
i guess staff isn't back from weekend yet
daffie: is the other stuff working yet ?
daffie: or still ?
MSmits: if you didn't, then that should be ok?
MSmits: wow scrolling
MSmits: so... good morning
MSmits: I'm in the train, dodging corona virus while headed to work :P
eulerscheZahl: you are supposed to climb the CG ranking MSmits
MSmits: I am, 36 now, i was 42 when the ranking change happened
MSmits: i'm just picking low pop multis so it is slow
eulerscheZahl: i mean you were supposed to have 3 weeks off, so i expected you to play CG
and now you have to help others with IT
MSmits: ah yes, it's sad, but necessary
eulerscheZahl: you aren't even a network admin or alike, that's totally different from coding
MSmits: but i wont be at work often. Maybe once a week
MSmits: i will be at work troubleshooting and helping students remotely, but still will have plenty of time to code
eulerscheZahl: great
eulerscheZahl: which game is the next?
MSmits: Onitama
MSmits: any advice?
eulerscheZahl: another low populated game
MSmits: yes
MSmits: but i like it
eulerscheZahl: i'm minimaxing
MSmits: you
eulerscheZahl: not sure if it's the best idea
MSmits: 're almost always mm
eulerscheZahl: or random search
MSmits: true
eulerscheZahl: but i think trictrac has a minimax too
MSmits: i get discouraged to do mm
MSmits: I can make it work, but its never better for me
eulerscheZahl: feel free to find an awesome alternative how to tackle Onitama
MSmits: sure :)
eulerscheZahl: :)
MSmits: I'm struggling a bit with the board representation
MSmits: trying to make it fast
eulerscheZahl: rotating cards are weird
MSmits: not even looking at that yet
eulerscheZahl: was thinking a while how to even represent the board in the user input
eulerscheZahl: namely the cards, all facing in one direction or rotating when given in the input or ...
MSmits: hmm yes, are all the cards in the input sent to you as you would use them?
MSmits: or as they get used by opponent?
eulerscheZahl: the way the next player will use them
MSmits: ok, so the input for them changes
eulerscheZahl: so yours+neutral like you play them
opponent like opponent plays them
MSmits: ok
eulerscheZahl: last week tonight with a white wall and no audience looks so weird
MSmits: havent seen it yet
MSmits: but all those shows are weird with no audience
MSmits: Seth Meyers was visibly insecure about whether his jokes were funny
MSmits: they were of course
MSmits: some comments were funny
MSmits: "Don't worry Seth, I laughed at all the appropriate times"
karliso: Transposition tables would be useless in a game like onitama?
MSmits: oh noes
eulerscheZahl: i rarely watch seth meyers
MSmits: karliso !
MSmits: hi :)
MSmits: hmm
eulerscheZahl: sounds like the beginning of a fight
karliso: Hi, I still haven't wrapped my head around minimax.
MSmits: transposition tables might have a use karliso
MSmits: but the turn timer is an issue
MSmits: there are many repeated states I think with the only difference being the turn counter
karliso: But in onitama there are little to no transpositions because cards change.
MSmits: so will you consider them identical or not?
MSmits: cards change of course, but there are not that many possible configs of the 5 cards I think
eulerscheZahl: the cards make a big difference
eulerscheZahl: you need some search depth to get repeating patterns
MSmits: yeah, I suspect transpositions are not worth it
karliso: Cool, that is what I thought too.
eulerscheZahl: i'm just guessing too, didn't test it myself
MSmits: btw, I think you can use variations of mcts with eval everywhere you can use minimax, or almost everywhere. It's just more work I think
MSmits: so if you dont want to minimax, you dont have to
karliso: I feel like mxts has advantage of CG because you can reuse the search tree from previous turn.
MSmits: there are ways to do this with minimax, but thats rarely worth it
MSmits: I'm also not sure how much reusing the search tree helps with mcts. I'm sure it helps a bit, but you also fragment your nodes
MSmits: as in. your nodes are scattered all over the pool
karliso: Should negamax always be preferred over minimax?
MSmits: so your memory cache gets a bit less efficient
MSmits: karliso probably yes
ThunderbirdOne: so MSmits, paid leave eh? :D
MSmits: no, plenty of work =/
MSmits: but will do most at home
ThunderbirdOne: ah
MSmits: i'm in the train now
MSmits: off to work to explain to my colleagues how to work from home
eulerscheZahl: turn on your PC, log in there, open that
darkhorse64: I'm building a Onitama bot, too with bitboarding, treating the king position as a special case
MSmits: yes, i was going to do that as well
eulerscheZahl: nice, some new players
ThunderbirdOne: i'm still at the office
eulerscheZahl: so far only a hand full have really tried it
MSmits: the thing is though, you can also just fit 4 guys with uint8_t[4] in the same amount of space
ThunderbirdOne: but as far as i can see, there's about 5 other people on this floor :')
darkhorse64: Not for me but not an alibi bot anymore
eulerscheZahl: how many are there usually ThunderbirdOne?
ThunderbirdOne: eeh, just my team is already about 7 i think
ThunderbirdOne: and there's about 4 - 5 teams on this floor :p
eulerscheZahl: and why did you go?`:P
MSmits: he's the boss
ThunderbirdOne: I really don't have a decent desk at home atm
MSmits: or that
ThunderbirdOne: and they're pouring the floor as well, so I can't walk on it for the next 5 days :p
MSmits: great... dude coughing behind me
MSmits: stay home ffs
ThunderbirdOne: don't continue to work Smits, you'll just pass it on to all of your colleagues
eulerscheZahl: if you get infected, you have 0 days a week to go to school
MSmits: I'm ok so far
ThunderbirdOne: that guy behind you though
MSmits: this is true euler
MSmits: he's stopped for now
MSmits: i was in another carriage befoe
MSmits: there was this 60 yr old woman telling another she just has a flu, no worries, then snorted in a paper handkerchief
eulerscheZahl: aka tissue
MSmits: so i changed carriages. Not gonna do that again
MSmits: yes tissue, thanks
eulerscheZahl: oh dear, not getting any better
eulerscheZahl: how far do you have it to your working place?
MSmits: it's 35 min on train, then 20 min walk
eulerscheZahl: i guess the bicycle is not an option then
eulerscheZahl: too far
MSmits: nope
MSmits: 2 hrs if i was fast, but i get knee prolems with too much cycling
eulerscheZahl: and after 2h of doing sports i'm getting tired
wouldn't be helping either when you have to stand in front of a class
MSmits: trying to cycle 2 hrs is a good test to see if you're infected with corona though :P
MSmits: nah it wouldnt but thats something i wont be doing till at least 6th of april
MSmits: just my colleagues there now
eulerscheZahl: or hold your breath for 10s (you will get it when you watched last week tonight)
MSmits: is that a different episode?
MSmits: I saw a corona episode already
ThunderbirdOne: yes, the hold your breath thing is just stupid
eulerscheZahl: corono II
eulerscheZahl: corona II
MSmits: oh ok
MSmits: holding breath doesnt make sense even
MSmits: because you wont get oxygen with or without corona when you hold your breath
dbdr: it's not about avoiding to catch it :D
dbdr: it's a way to test the state of your lungs
MSmits: I guess
ThunderbirdOne: coughing within 10 seconds could mean multiple things though
MSmits: by the time you detect it that way, there'd be plenty of ways
MSmits: just try a flight of stairs
ThunderbirdOne: flatten the curve
ThunderbirdOne: stay home
dbdr: it might actually be useful earlier
ThunderbirdOne: did you guys see that article with the "simulations" ?
MSmits: no, link it !
dbdr: you climbs stairs more frequently than hold your breath for 10s
ThunderbirdOne: https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?next_url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.washingtonpost.com%2fgraphics%2f2020%2fworld%2fcorona-simulator%2f
MSmits: btw, I am teaching a simulating/modelling class, for several years now, it starts in 1 week and the first subject is a flu epidemic
dbdr: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
eulerscheZahl: pay wall
dbdr: maybe you reached the limiit?
eulerscheZahl: oh, i got it
eulerscheZahl: clicked "free" and accepted their ToS
ThunderbirdOne: yeah
MSmits: thanks for link, it;s really interesting. I knew all that, but good to show others
dbdr: looks a bit like PCR
MSmits: yeah
dbdr: since they all have the same size, they bounce :D
ThunderbirdOne: hehe, i just like the visualisation
MSmits: btw, train arriving, ttyl, looking forward to onitama!
ThunderbirdOne: it makes it so much easier to comprehend
ThunderbirdOne: and also easier to explain the whole "flatten the curve" thing
dbdr: yes, it's a good one
eulerscheZahl: the simulation reminds me of CSB days
eulerscheZahl: when people were building game engines
dbdr: something else than bots?
eulerscheZahl: engine for their bots
before your time on CG
eulerscheZahl: sethorizer, SwagColoredKitten, MK, lurkin, ...
eulerscheZahl: TheSauce
eulerscheZahl: so many lost members
but some other cool people joined
ThunderbirdOne: what happened to Swaggy anyway?
eulerscheZahl: no diea
eulerscheZahl: idea
DragonS: why won't my code submit? all the test are okay
dbdr: was the referee secret?
eulerscheZahl: yes
dbdr: I think submits are broken DragonS
DragonS: :(
eulerscheZahl: reported already
dbdr: temporarily
DragonS: okay thx
eulerscheZahl: staff (thibaud) reacted with :eyes: so he saw it
dbdr: master Thubault move :)
eulerscheZahl: Thubault?
dbdr: Thiibault
dbdr: Typo
dbdr: by the way, did you know there was a language called TypoScript?
dbdr: and that's not a typo :D
eulerscheZahl: :D
eulerscheZahl: esoteric language i guess
dbdr: no. for TYPO3, a CMS
dbdr: I actually saw TYPO3 in a list of CMS I was considering for that chat log site
dbdr: but did not install it
dbdr: an esoteric language where you need to make typo sounds fun though :D
ThunderbirdOne: ah CMS systems... i have a love/hate relationship with them
dbdr: I used Drupal many years ago
ThunderbirdOne: worked with Umbraco, Sitecore and ...
dbdr: turns out it's probably still a good choice if you want to program your own modules
ThunderbirdOne: another one that i've forgotten the name of :')
dbdr: :D
dbdr: never heard of those
ThunderbirdOne: used to work at an agency that just built content sites for customers
ThunderbirdOne: so it was CMS non-sotp
ThunderbirdOne: they're all .NET CMS systems
dbdr: ah OK. open-source?
ThunderbirdOne: umbraco is
dbdr: a lot of what I saw was php
ThunderbirdOne: the other ones not
dbdr: including Drupal and MediaWiki
ThunderbirdOne: yeah, my php colleagues would primarily use Drupal or Wordpress
ThunderbirdOne: and then if they would do custom stuff, that would be done with
ThunderbirdOne: aaah, shit.. what was that framework called
ThunderbirdOne: symfony!
dbdr: heard that name :)
ThunderbirdOne: that's about as far as it went for me too
DragonS: okay submit works now
dbdr: cool, thanks for the info DragonS!
DragonS: :)
DragonS: but i did now get any exp and stuff for the solution
tekki: :)
toctou: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/62013acd-67df-47d3-8ff4-73682b6adb56
toctou: :relaxed:
toctou: 73 megabyte example:relaxed:
toctou: after windeployqt
dbdr: modern systems are often quite wasteful, overly complicated :(
toctou: qt have system auto link and auto copyng having dll in you code
toctou: opengl-sw 20 megabyte
yfprojects: Do you guys know how much workspace a codingame program gets?
wlesavo: dbdr i'd advice you not to take him seriously, he got banned from #ru, so he is probably gonna annoy people here for a while
Astrobytes: wlesavo he's been annoying us for weeks now ;)
toctou: wlesavo booling me
wlesavo: Astrobytes its just a small glance from what was happening at #ru
Astrobytes: Yeah I heard about it
dbdr: is #ru very active?
wlesavo: yeah, quite active
toctou: ou
wlesavo: dbdr are you asking to include us to your logging app? :wink: that would be nice
dbdr: yes, I was wondering about that
dbdr: no you're recorded as asking for it ;)
dbdr: so I'll do it
dbdr: http://chat.codingame.com/pastebin/2ed27fe4-8825-4ea3-ae4e-69d28772e416
dbdr: seems working :)
wlesavo: hehe thx, appreciate it :slight_smile:
Uljahn: yfprojects: https://www.codingame.com/faq
the code size limit is 100k symbols
yfprojects: Thank you! But I meant working memory. Sorry.
Uljahn: click the link then
yfprojects: Oh, didnt see th column!
Ducknaro: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/11554728f7d3d5d35362bbd3d3d1f25e4f449b9
Astrobytes: Ducknaro, as I asked you yesterday, can you please stop spamming the chat with CoC invites
Ducknaro: sorry
Ducknaro: i don't now
Ducknaro: sorry
Ducknaro: really
Astrobytes: OK, it's cool
wlesavo: dbdr added a link to euler's puzzle search to tools, if thats ok
dbdr: sure, great idea. thanks wlesavo
struct: hello
MadKnight: hihi struct
yfprojects: Hi
MadKnight: hihi yfprojects what are u gonna code today ?
yfprojects: Bender - episode 1
yfprojects: I am currently debugging
yfprojects: and you? are you coding too?
yfprojects: MadKnight?
MadKnight: yea some server stuff in c#
MadKnight: what's the problem with bender 1 ? what doesn't work ?
yfprojects: Only some small mistakes nothing I not able to fix. But thanks.
MadKnight: did u solve those infinity loop cases ?
yfprojects: Yes, I did. i hope my simple solution is enough, but thats not causing a problem right now.
jang888: shining hopper
FuSheng: hey guys
FuSheng: um smith you here?
FuSheng: or any1 who remembers me?
FuSheng: my project is working on a donkeycar
FuSheng: i was able to use the web controller to move the car around a tra
yfprojects: Well, there is a button "Participants". So you can see who is there.
koderKARUPASAMI: https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/115559255f202d0fb9c1b0512d77b1f35c00105
ThunderbirdOne: itt's a lot of work :p
MSmits: oh, i thought you meant you'd have nothing to show for it at the end. And they didnt make the contest into a multi, so that made sense
MadKnight: saw an old woman today buying a hitload of cigarettes in shop
MadKnight: people are preparing, Automaton2000
Automaton2000: you need to do something with that
MadKnight: preparing for a sprint in CG botting Automaton2000
Automaton2000: haven't seen him in a while
gattonero1052: clash of code crashed?
gattonero1052: oops..nope
Philbot: 11 days contest?
struct: eventualy
Philbot: don't patronize me son
struct: you ask I answer
struct: The contest has been delayed so many times
darkhorse64: Just once
darkhorse64: but 10 months in waiting
struct: utg was 10 months ago?=
Philbot: that's like giving birth
Philbot: UTG was 4 months ago
Philbot: but not offichial
eulerscheZahl: we had to wait much longer for the return of code4life
Astrobytes: That was over a year no?
darkhorse64: My bad; you are right four months
struct: utg was in october iirc
Scarfield: it was :)
AntiSquid: utg was october, 4 months ago, Automaton2000
Automaton2000: automaton2000, convert it to the nearest wreck
AntiSquid: UTG successfully converted into a wreck
farzher: why is clash of code 15min when it says flash is 5min
Scarfield: For SmitsiMax in CSB, should I eval the pods entirely seperate, or would it help also including a combined eval for both pods of each player?
Scarfield: so instead of each pod searching for its own optimal series of actions, there will be an added element of team play
Astrobytes: Separately iiuc, cooperative behaviour will emerge naturally where optimal
struct: I cant remember
struct: ping MSmits
Scarfield: yea it says so in his article, but i remember him mentioning he changed something since writing it, and i thought it might help.
jacek: you want to summon tee MSmits?
jacek: Yavalath!
Scarfield: lol :)
Scarfield: 2 2 is the best starting pos
Scarfield: should be easy enough to test i suppose - "just" need to code the smitsimax part :p
MSmits: huh, what?
struct: he wants to know
struct: if he should add coop to eval on CSB
struct: for smitsimax
MSmits: mmh coop. My eval is not the best, but the travelled distance of the runner is part of the blocker eval, in my case
MSmits: so I guess that's coop
MSmits: and also the travelled distance of the opponents runner (as a negative modifier)\
MSmits: also, what I changed was:
MSmits: I stopped doing the dynamic normalization
MSmits: my exploration parameter is supposed to fix everything, including the score normalization
MSmits: the thing is, if your scores are betwen -1 and 1, then an exploration parameter of somewhere between 1 and 1,5 is ok
MSmits: if your scores are between -100 and +100, then an exploration parameter of 100 to 150 does exactly the same thing
MSmits: so just experiment with that and find the right parameter
struct: so are you saying your eval is between 1 and -1?
MSmits: oh and a score range of -100 to +100 is exactly identical to a score range between 10300 and 10500
MSmits: no it's not struct
MSmits: I'm saying it doesnt have to be
MSmits: it can be anything, just fit the exploration parameter appropriately
MSmits: for uttt the scores are between -1 and 1, but it doesnt have to be either
MSmits: if in uttt, your loss score is 94 and your win score is 96 and your parameter is 1, then it will play *exactly* the same game as when your loss score is -1 and your win score is +1 and the parameter is 1
MSmits: it is stupid to choose a score range like that, but it will have no effect on your bot
MSmits: maybe you would lose a tiny bit of performance due to the loss of efficiency, negating a win/loss is cheaper if it is -1 or +1, but its probably negligible
MSmits: since, in CSB it is very inconvenient to try and fit scores between -1 and 1, I suggest you dont even try. It's not necessary
struct: I will have to try
struct: I think I have an idea
MSmits: why
j-nila: what
struct: Not -1 and 1
MSmits: oh ok
struct: i think i know what you do
struct: Ill try and see if thats it
MSmits: it's no secret, if you ask me I will just tell you
struct: Well if its no secret
MSmits: I'll never share whole bots, but I'm pretty open about most things
MSmits: if you dont want to throw everything on world chat, you can also just pm and ask
j-nila: how do i remove this join us on discord thing
j-nila: help
MSmits: I click the cross and then most of it is gone
MSmits: still a small bar I guess
struct: ublock origin
struct: and block it
yfprojects: there is an arrow pointing upwards
MSmits: oh yeah that arrow
struct: M Smits Ill pm you after I try it and if it doesnt work
struct: I won't need it right now anyways
struct: Just remember need to fix avx collision search with checkpoints
MSmits: sure, I'll write a response. PM is easier because I can do it asynchronously
MSmits: brb prime minister addressing the nation
AntiSquid: wow :o
AntiSquid: totally need to watch it live, it's not the same if you watch the rebroadcast of the PM
MSmits: last time was in the 70s, it's pretty unique
MSmits: was a good speech
MSmits: basically explaining what the next few months are gonna be like as far as he knows
Scarfield: I have finished the sim for CSB, and was wondering about how to do the eval, I saw your comments, and actually thought having a designated runner/blocker wouldnt be the best approach for smitsimax?
MSmits: maybe it isn't, it's just what i have
MSmits: i do designate a runner during eval
MSmits: so every time a pod receives score, it might have a different role
MSmits: I know Robo does this differently for example
Scarfield: ah okay, makes sense
MSmits: I think he designates runner and blocker at the start of the turn
MSmits: that also works
MSmits: many variations are possible
MSmits: same as the moves you allow
MSmits: many players allow shielding in deeper layers of the search
Scarfield: i figured the runner/blokcer role would emerge from the search, but feel like i should maybe "enforce" team play a bit, will just have to play with it i guess
MSmits: my bot only does shield as a first move during the search (so depth 0 in the current turn) and after that it is not allowed
MSmits: yes, just experiment
MSmits: one big thing is how you prune moves
MSmits: I think my bot does well because there are many move sequences I dont allow
Scarfield: havent decided what to do about shields yet, but that seems like an easy start to prune - the shield depth 0 i mean
MSmits: basically it is like this
MSmits: a search for a pod, is maybe 7 moves in a row
MSmits: and each pod has its own 7 moves
MSmits: i dont allow the following
MSmits: 1) power 0, turn right
MSmits: 2) power 0, turn left
MSmits: that's completely pointless and increases branching
MSmits: be careful about doing this sort of thing while on full power, alternating turns (left/right) might be useful with full power
MSmits: catching a quick checkpoint on the edge of the pod etc.
MSmits: but on 0 power, alternating turns is useless
MSmits: at least in smitsimax, on minimax it would be different
MSmits: smitsimax is an incoherent search, you dont directly respond to the opponent, so alternating turns cannot serve as a response
Scarfield: was just about to mention i saw Pens pods do that, but he is using minimax iirc, makes sense it wouldnt work with the incohence
MSmits: there are several move combinations like this, that are useless
MSmits: right, since, during the search the move is only chosen based on UCB1
MSmits: and not on the opponent choice in that particular rollout
Scarfield: yea, but the pruning will have to wait a bit, still only just finished the sim, but its nice with some input :)
MSmits: of course, the net result over many rollouts does lead to a response to the opponent, but there is no use keeping useless move sequences
MSmits: good luck :)
Scarfield: ty, btw didnt you mention that you reduced your depth?
MSmits: from 8 to 7
MSmits: but it depends on many things
MSmits: I suspect that if i had an avx sim, it would be 8 or 9
MSmits: just fit the parameter
MSmits: start with 7, it's a good value to start with, can always try different ones
MSmits: integer params are super easy to fit
struct: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
struct: My collision search is working fine
struct: but the apply is not
MSmits: apply move?
struct: apply collision
struct: like bounce
MSmits: ah you mean you have the collision time
struct: yes
MSmits: i could share my function, but you use avx, so thats completely different
struct: yeah
struct: Without avx it works
Ducknaro: hi
struct: hi
MSmits: 33/47 students in my physics class signed up so far, going well :)
MSmits: was worried teaching long distance wouldnt work, but at least I'm not getting ignored
eulerscheZahl: any direct consequences for your students if they ignore you?
MSmits: I will call their parents
MSmits: but i didnt say that yet
struct: and they will have to play Yavalath
MSmits: that would be a reward struct
eulerscheZahl: oh right, you can do that with minors
MSmits: yes, most of them are, not all
MSmits: 17 is the median age of my students
MSmits: very few 18 though
MSmits: some are 16, very rare few 15 because they skipped years in primary school
struct: omg
struct: It works
MSmits: nice, got a replay yet?
struct: not yet
MSmits: kk
struct: at least the first test
miszu: Hi all, question for utt. I am trying to avoid using list or map in C++, what is a good way to compute all possible moves in a state? I am using bitboards for it.
ThatOneTqnk: let's get it
struct: I dont know why I was worried about of by 1 errors
tekki: coucou
JBM: russian here
struct: privet
Scarfield: туалетная бумага для всех
JBM: yay
Astrobytes: Спасибо!
AntiSquid: BAN
miszu: Rush B
AntiSquid: Automaton2000 ban these russians, also kick and then ban the toilet paper advert guy
Automaton2000: so much to learn about a subject i go all out. not just look at it
735487: who knows why getting toilet paper so many is important? do i need to go and get it also?
JBM: you need to configure your client properly
735487: why people in many countries do that?
Astrobytes: amurushkin greed? stupidity?
amurushkin: I just lazy to type nickname ofter after reconnects
Scarfield: saw someone say it gives people some sort of feeling of being in control of the situation, but yea
Astrobytes: I think it started with a rumour about toilet paper being manufactured in Wuhan
amurushkin: Astrobytes: I think so but who knows. maybe i dont know something
AntiSquid: when you have no pasta left to buy, you gotta make spaghetti out of something else /s
AntiSquid: toilet paper is white and al dente
amurushkin: really? such paper manufactured in many cities at my country
Scarfield: multi bene
JBM: just use soap and water, it actually works better
Astrobytes: amurushkin Yes of course, it was just fake news
amurushkin: ok i understand now
Scarfield: yea the french had this correct all along :p
JBM: not quite sure how this is related to the french
Astrobytes: Bidets?
AntiSquid: this is the only scenario i can think of where you really need a lot of toilet paper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE-X-FKYndI
Scarfield: this "foreign" danish comedian was like, wtf danes, if you got shit on your stomach, would you just wipe it of with some paper, and think it is clean?
JBM: are bidets a french thing?
AntiSquid: but it's for a stupid prank
Scarfield: and yea bidets was my point
Astrobytes: I think so JBM
Scarfield: i think it is french yea
JBM: it's more of an "old people thing" to me
Astrobytes: I'll never forget the first time I was confronted with a bidet
eulerscheZahl: it's an anagram for bitset
JBM: you could just have ignored it as much as it ignored you
JBM: or use it as a poop stool
Astrobytes: I did. Once I found out it was for washing my arse I was mightily put off
AntiSquid: aren't bidets just to comfort the bumhole?
AntiSquid: french still buy toilet roll no?
JBM: sure
AntiSquid: of course you do
JBM: and the not-roll variety, depending on your roo; equipment
AntiSquid: here is proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6hvDiAx3ho
AntiSquid: french raid toilet rolls in supermarket !
AntiSquid: therefore the bidet is used for something else
JBM: some did yeah
JBM: including at my nearest supermarket
JBM: as zuck would've put it
JBM: "dumb fucks"
AntiSquid: who is zuck?
Astrobytes: My local is empty too, so I'm told, since I can't leave the house for another 7 days
JBM: some startup guy
Astrobytes: The AntiChrist you say?
AntiSquid: can only think of mark zuckerberg
AntiSquid: but that guy looks dead inside
JBM: that would be the correct one
Astrobytes: He needs some gold paint
JBM: another nice ref
RGN971: 8888888888888888888888888888888888888
eulerscheZahl: "I can't leave the house for another 7 days"
what did I miss? are you infected?
Astrobytes: Yeah I've been isolating for a week now
Astrobytes: Infected with something at least, feels like bad 'flu
eulerscheZahl: i see
AntiSquid: so did you code a bot during this time Astrobytes ?
eulerscheZahl: feeling better already?
AntiSquid: i would .
Astrobytes: Yeah I've been working on stuff
Astrobytes: No I feel like shit, to put it mildly
AntiSquid: i need to stay extra to assist with some stuff regarding this corona virus circus
Astrobytes: Sleeping a lot, can't stand up for longer than a few mins
eulerscheZahl: yeah, sounds like a flu
eulerscheZahl: i hate that feeling
Astrobytes: Have a dry cough and chest is a bit heavy but nothing to worry about so far
eulerscheZahl: what feels weird to me: we have a flu that's dangerous to a small percentage (as in deadly), get we take a lot of actions against it
eulerscheZahl: at the same time: climate change? we can't risk losing our jobs
Astrobytes: I know right, seriously
AntiSquid: probably it's about how immediate the treat appears to be
Astrobytes: Action on climate change would make a lot of incredibly wealthy people a bit less wealthy, and loosen their grip
Astrobytes: They only care about short-term as Squiddy says
jaecode: less planes flying from virus = climate change action :)
AntiSquid: less cars too
AntiSquid: i mean cars on the road, not flying cars although we all expect them i bet
jaecode: hey do we lose points if we use a hint on the practice puzzles?
jaecode: I
struct: no
AntiSquid: what points would you lose?
AntiSquid: what hints are you refering to ?
Astrobytes: No, but make sure you learn something from them and don't just blindly use them
jaecode: in the challenges there is a hint button, too scared to press it
eulerscheZahl: puzzle hints in the easy section
jaecode: I passed like 5 of them without using hints at all...
AntiSquid: always aggressively press hint
eulerscheZahl: these hints only exist for the very first introduction puzzles
jaecode: oh ok good to know
jaecode: just wanted to get some practice in on this site since I got an interviewer request to complete it for a job... never used this system before
Astrobytes: There's a sample test on the site no?
Astrobytes: So you know the format
jaecode: is there?
Astrobytes: There used to be one on https://www.codingame.com/work
Astrobytes: Maybe they changed it, they've been working on that side of things for a while now
jaecode: Thanks, I'll check it out. Since all they sent me was a link that starts it with 100 minutes to complete.
icecream17: At https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/codingame-sponsored-contest I only output 'A' but it passed all the tests
Astrobytes: Well, definitely brush up on any areas you might be lacking in within the puzzle section before you do it, and good luck jaecode
jaecode: will do
Astrobytes: icecream17 It's an optimisation puzzle, so you have to try to optimise your score
icecream17: oh i see
icecream17: wow interesting. okay bye
AntiSquid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBnAZnfNB6U
Master_Zain: @antisquid thank you
struct: Does anyone else have scrolling problem on IDE?
struct: if I scroll a lot it stops scroll for a whiel
struct: with mouse wheel
Astrobytes: Donno, I try to only copy/paste into it usually. Seems OK?
struct: Oh well, sim almost done
struct: Hope is tomorrow
struct: Is always tomorrow :p
Astrobytes: lol true. You've made some good progress though
struct: pod collisions are working
Astrobytes: Thought you finished the sim?
struct: I have sim finished but not with AVX
struct: AVX working with collisions now
Astrobytes: Ah OK
struct: But still need to add checkpoints
Astrobytes: You're using a Smitsi on it right?
struct: I will try yeah
YurkovAS: struct collision time with avx?
struct: yes YurkovAS
struct: everything with avx
struct: except smitsimax
Astrobytes: I was just gonna ping you YurkovAS, did you just improve on CSB or what. I didn't check the LB for a while
YurkovAS: Astrobytes yes, find small improve
struct: What search are you using YurkovAS?
YurkovAS: smitsimax
YurkovAS: csb - very hard game :smiley:
struct: you should try Fantastic Bits then ;)
tekki: hello world
AnAn3434Messi: System.out.println("hi");
sashaboulouds: print("lol, which langage is this??")
AnAn3434Messi: That language is Java
AnAn3434Messi: And the language you wrote is python
pedroslrey: .
pedroslrey: .
pedroslrey: .
ThePythonian: del brain
EmilHuzell: has anyone solved shadows 2 using trilateration?
TheWaterCooledSkater_cead: i,m a newer and i wangt to make some progress
TransExterminator: poop
5IGI0: oh ! hein voilà
TransExterminator: go on codeforces there are better problems there
5IGI0: hm
5IGI0: give link pls
TransExterminator: im talking to other guy
TransExterminator: just google it
lotosmui: how i know if the id on the loop is my id?
struct: what game?
lotosmui: platinum rift
lotosmui: episode 2
struct: they give you your id
struct: at the start of the game
struct: on first turn
DavidLC: invite me
DavidLC: helo
DavidLC: hello
Gamebot: is this website not working properly now?
